So hear me out.
2 2017-05-02 by Ezazcil
So I was watching the video of the 13 year old kid talking about Cern and all that jazz, and also some videos about Cern's use of Shiva, and I had a scary thought... what if Cern has unknowingly (or knowingly) tested the quantum suicide theory, and our original universe was destroyed and phased into another reality wash, rinse, repeat. Now I already know I'm gonna get a lot of hate, downvotes and r/shittyconspiracy blah blah blah for this post so bring it. This is just a thought, and personally I haven't decided what side of the fence I'm on with the Mandella Effect even though it's kinda creepy. I'm just curious if anyone else has had this thought?
74 comments
n/a The_Veracity_Sector 2017-05-02
Your first mistake was listening to a 13 year old kid.
n/a Ezazcil 2017-05-02
Have you seen the video?
n/a ridestraight 2017-05-02
Can you link which video you're referring to? Thanks!
n/a Ezazcil 2017-05-02
https://youtu.be/e8w3MZEpcSc
n/a ridestraight 2017-05-02
Thank you - I had watched this a couple days ago wanted to be sure it was that video.
The past few long months or more, I've certainly sensed or perceived that people and earth have made some drastic shifts.
That CERN opened up a portal - highly probable. That there has been a marked increase in open depravity - IMHO, yes. That the talking heads keep lying - some things will never change!
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-05-02
Not sure if that's what they did, but there was definitely a shift somewhere in our timeline. I remember Universe E. Universe A sucks donkey nuts.
n/a WhyIHateTheInternet 2017-05-02
"Alright, you can be crummy Universe A and we'll be Universe 1
"Or "The Mongooses". That's a cool team name. The Fighting Mongooses!"
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
That kid is highly fed wild ideas that are not of his own discovery. He is good at reciting disinformation-
Here is what cern is doing: farming antimatter. Hence there now being 11+ haldron colliders. Pretty obvious 1 or 2 would have been needed to test the big bang theory and black hole production etc.
The rest is a cover for their actual stockpiling of destructive elements / and exotic isotopes.
The whole it ended the universe string theory quantum entangled multiverse thing is a scifi novelty.
There is only one reality. Anyone that thinks differently is an idiot-
n/a The_Veracity_Sector 2017-05-02
Your first paragraph is what I was going to say but didn't want to type it out.
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
Imo he is misreable and he should be placed in protective custody until his parents go on a rehab program to discover the differences between effective and non effective parenting strategies; and acceptable tolerances in child rearing. The kid is acting out in a dangerous manner and he will likely take his own life in a spout of depression to 'move. On' to the next dimension...
Thats how sick this truly is-
n/a jaydwalk 2017-05-02
Dangerous? What the kid is doing is what everyone here is doing...Are we all truly that sick?
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
No. We are mostly adults coming to our own conclusions.
This child is being raised to believe the government ended the past universe and that death is irrelevant.
That is dangerous-
n/a mastigia 2017-05-02
Lol, don't beat around the bush man, tell us how you really feel. We all friends here.
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
*I personally value you, and your imput :)
n/a mastigia 2017-05-02
Haha thanks man. I don't think the joke was understood. Oh well.
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
*it was understood.
I just save my energy for actual arguments ;)
n/a mastigia 2017-05-02
Frisson
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-05-02
Got some evidence to back that up, bud?
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
Yes.
The human brain is a recorder. We assess information and absorb it in this stage of development. The theory of the multiverse is only a theory and a widely argued one at that.
The kid recites information he was told and the adult in the video coerces specific channels of information each tine the childs mind is sidetracked. This is a long term system of abuse on the child.
The size of infinity is not measurable, therefore his definition is irrelevant. Its hypothetical arguments proposed by the leading names in physics. Yet these are not in any way unknown or revolutionary concepts.
This is the work of a rather smart adult male encouraging and influencing a young child to see 'differences' in two realitys that are one in the same. Information is stored in matter. So if our universe 'ended' the matter does not transition. It dies too.
This is why you can not recover a harddrive once its been damaged.
Noting also cern is only a haldron collider. They are soecifically farming antimatter with the devices. As there are 13 of them by my last count. You only need 1 if the basis of reasoning was to simply 'test the big bang' via atomic bombardments of atom on atom near light speed collisions.
Its the discovery and collection of exotic and rare elements which keeps the government interested in their building more and more (larger) colliders.
Note also antimatter engines were designed years ago and our aspirations for long diatance space travel are humanity's next truly unknown frontier.
n/a jaydwalk 2017-05-02
Or you're wrong about this abuse...ands
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
No. If he was a child genious he would have a working theory. I.e. e=mc2 +/-
This is a kid using scribbles to illustrate a topic which he himself is testing in a non abated educational environment.
The parents monetized his youtube and are whoring him for profit. He is not a genius, he is a victim-
Study physics and tell me where a squiggly line represents '8' (the sign for infinity)-
Kid is a talking head- nothing more or less-
So yes clever. But also yes: parents need rehab and this is avsolutely child abuse-
n/a klondike1412 2017-05-02
Are you out to lunch? Do you think Einstein was inventing his (flawed) theories when he was a kid? No, he was an old man who had time to make it through academia. Theories invented before academia are absolutely useless as anyone who goes through that drivel will soon realize there is far more overhead conforming to the community than deriving original work, hence anything created before entering the community would not be aware of how to write a paper that actually means anything or can convince anyone of a single thing.
If people want to watch the videos, and the parents genuinely feel like they have a kid they don't understand and perhaps the world at large could benefit from, are you shocked they are taking a video of it?
Based on what you just said here:
It sounds like you understand FAR less about infinities than this 13-year old. Do you even know who George Cantor is? Comparing infinities to each other is a long-studied mathematical practice and you think... it doesn't exist?
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
What I think is your one of the kids parents- or just as well equal to their failed interpretations of what makes a genius.
Einstein was a mathmatical genius using his skillset to explore the very algebra expressions utilized to discover patents. He already mastered basic mathematical expressions at an early age. So he was far more capable if expressing his work then you give him credit for.
You undersell actual work ethic to promote a child who has no grasp on basic calculus- So its obvious your either being intentually naive and sadistic or simply are just that.
I am well aware about the practical use of infinity. (as well as the symbol for its use); Ive just never seen it regurgitated by a minor thats suffering from child abuse live on youtube.
You have no explaination for your actions. This is called 'damage control' or 'brain damage'. Citing physicists as though your aware makes me feel you personally nurture this childs development. Its appauling-
I know einstein was a genius because its proven that his theories were his own.
This is a child pre programmed to recite exotic principals in a dangerous manner-
There is no telling how severely affected he will become as his 'genius' is picked apart revealing a sad mislead child whose parents filled his head with wild ideas and delusions of grandeur-
n/a jaydwalk 2017-05-02
Proof of abuse please...
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
Child follows parents into social 'norms' which are damaging to the childs batural development.
Forcing concepts upon a young mind is absolutely considered gross manipulation of the pupil.
It becomes a crime when the child is promoted to a dangerous level which is to be considered (or not) by a judge and jury.
I don't see this ending well for the parents when the child fails to produce any content on his own; in revelation to the items he is addressing.
This to me is criminal. I feel many others with collective intelligence would agree with that statement-
n/a jaydwalk 2017-05-02
Where is your proof of this? From a guy recording his son, and trying to keep him on track of telling what he wants to say. You DON'T KNOW for sure...pure speculation.
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
Proof is defined by evidence; The video itself is evidence.
Thus the evidence is proof that the child lecturing and education system is based on adults teaching the child that 'cern' ended the universe. That is looney tunes.
Brains are made of matter. Matter is a material that can't be recreated and store the same data.
This is why clones are simply visual reenactments of the genome while the beings have different lifespans and thought processes. Ergo they are raised differently.
There is healthy adult imput and abusive imput. Leading a child on to believe that past universes collapsed will lead him into being a very mixed up comnfused little boy who will have a hard time getting anywhere in life.
That is abuse.
n/a jaydwalk 2017-05-02
He also says it's just a theory...please transcribe the bits where the dad is abusing his son...?!? I just don't see it. Wouldn't any of what's on this sub be abuse then, if any young mind finds their way here?
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
Parents have a civic duty to report warning signs in mental health. If my child factually told me the world had ended. This being based on a tomato tomatto argument. We would be in route to a mental health clinic. As it is a civic obligation-
Neglecting to treat a child, is abuse...
Hence the anti vaccination parents that have good intentions yet often compkicate and endanger their children.
n/a klondike1412 2017-05-02
Einstein was not an obvious genius from an early age, he got good marks generally but was not producing anything approaching meaningful work until he was 21 at least. This kid still has 8 years to go before he is where Einstein was just starting. His 4 famous papers came when he was 26, so this kid is just half the age Einstein was.
Why doesn't he understand basic calculus?
The practical use of infinities, not infinity. There are many varying grades of infinity, which is what you seem to be failing to grasp. Not all infinities are equal and they can be compared by their ordinality and cardinality. I hope you are familiar with set theory at least? Also, when writing infinity, the squiggle could be seen as an obvious shortcut to a whole figure-8, I do the same with my own writing (simplify symbols/greek letters).
Dude, I don't believe the kid is legitimately a super-genius or going to change the world or even that what he is saying in the video is correct. I'm just saying that all you've done so far is label his parents as abusive for filming his (interesting and culturally relevant) explanations for Youtube. Hell, do you think his parents even know what he is talking about? If you listen to what the dad is asking him, his questions clearly don't comprehend or follow the subject matter at all.
Lmfao, relativity had been floating around since 1895, it just wasn't clearly defined. He did all his work on the backs of Poincare, Lorentz, Planck, and Hilbert, among others. His 1905 paper had no citations, but was clearly built off of Poincare's 1902 La science et l'hypothèse. His own wife contributed quite a bit as well.
I mean all information is just repeated and jumbled versions of stuff we learned somewhere else. Why is this nefarious?
Not gonna disagree with you here, really. But that's just because of the "genius" label, not because I think it is somehow worse to make Youtube videos of it or have his parents be interested in his thoughts.
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
Dude, I don't believe the kid is legitimately a super-genius or going to change the world or even that what he is saying in the video is correct. I'm just saying that all you've done so far is label his parents as abusive for filming his (interesting and culturally relevant) explanations for Youtube. Hell, do you think his parents even know what he is talking about?
Yes. The father clearly understands that the child is documenting the differences of the mandella effect in his journal. Thats called 'ommitance', to the 'facts'.
You just said you agree with everything I admissed but want to argue what i's or, is not' abuse in this admission.
Leading your child as an adult into assessing a paralleled universe exists is factually abusive and aiding it is contributing. Hence 'accomplice'-
Your ability to process this much thought into an argument makes me truly question why you are arguing these practical points as a whole?
n/a klondike1412 2017-05-02
The father barely understands the Mandela effect, how do you think he understands how the weight of an electron would be tied to what universe formation we are in right now? Do you think he understands that tuning meta-parameters is equivalent to switching universes in a higher dimension? Do you think he understands the flatness problem and how this is relevant to our self-regulating universe? The father doesn't even understand his comparison of infinities, let alone what the kid is really trying to explain.
Yeah I'm arguing because you're painting ignorant parents who clearly don't know what they're doing as nefarious, scheming devils planting false ideas in the mind of a child while somehow acting exactly as a person who doesn't understand what they are witnessing would.
These parents don't understand a damn thing their kid is saying, hence they go "Geeze maybe someone on the Internet would know about this" and post it on Youtube, and instead your magical theory is they invented all these theories, planted them in his mind and made him repeat them, and somehow play dumb about the whole thing?
Parallel universes exist, many-worlds interpretation is clearly the right one. Am I being factually abusive? Is my opinion dangerous? Go censor someone else.
Because you've got some screws loose and think that even the most trivial thing is a nefarious conspiracy. Fuck, I thought I was paranoid.
Monetization is as easy as clicking a button. It gives you free money for no work. Why say no to free money?
You're the looney one here....
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
No I am actually a concerned observer-
The child does not understand the material he regurgitates it. I could give him a single math problem he wouldn't understand and that would be the basis of his 'intelligence'.
The parents fully understand him and monetize his 'ability' which is nothing more then 'explaining' known material.
Material which go figure is hypothetical jargon.
Its technobabble-
Also the parents fully understand what they are doing and have a civic obligation to get the child help when he expresses harmful concepts such as believing the world ended. A fact no one in the one plain of existence we are living in should be ignoring-
n/a klondike1412 2017-05-02
I think you're delusional, reaching conclusions about a kid you've never met based off a few minutes of video. That kid is NOT just repeating things directly.
Dude, if the world ended then the world ended. Quantum suicide is a very real thing, and you would never know it happened. It's not a "dangerous" belief, Mr. Thought Police.
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
Someone has to do the 'thinking'.
Life isn't a funny episode of playtime shenanigans. Parenta have civic obligations within law. Legally these parents are required to provide adequate mental health care to the minor.
I don't have to prove quantum suicide is impossible. The child has to prove it is. Id like to see hin do that. Truly then he would be the genius and I would be the idiot that you claim. Until the kid elaborates a mathmatical formula to introduce said concept. Its factually the other way around.
Thus I am sane and the child is delusional and needs help-
n/a klondike1412 2017-05-02
Dude, go argue with the damn kid then!!! Many-worlds interpretation CLEARLY implies quantum suicide. Nobody would ever know if they successfully committed quantum suicide, the conscious you experiencing this would only know the successful timeline, but would never comprehend the one where you died.
I'm not saying you're an idiot, I'm saying the kid is clearly above-average intelligence for a 13-year old and that his delivery suggests that he has a somewhat solid understanding of the material. So go ahead, disprove what he said in the video.
Oh geeze, I didn't realize things don't actually exist until we wrote it down in a sequence of symbols on paper.
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
Delusions are rampant items of fallocy within ones own logic.
Are you really supporting obvious child abuse?
It would be different if the kid reached the age of majority. Or even minority. Yet to actively expose a young pre adult member of our society to topics of suicide and willfully play along; (going as far as to monopolize it) is dangerous. Parents have civic obligations to report troubled children.
This is willful neglect of mental health and financially motivated child abuse. Period-
n/a jaydwalk 2017-05-02
Maybe he is reading r/conspiracy and that's where he gets his theories...then we're all abusing children hmmm?!?
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
*the father is actively coercing the childs education habits. Hence the cues and 'aiding' the child in the concversation.
The points and thoughts are the parents and its very obvious that these ideas were taught to the child and that the behavior is supporeted by his mentors. Hence my comment on child abuse-
n/a jaydwalk 2017-05-02
Pure speculation. I didn't see any of that watching the video just a dad trying to keep his son on track while recording...
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
That's the point. "Keeping the son on track"
Criminal coercement and abuse, while monopolizing their little robot child. If you can't win them with magic then wow them with bullshit-
Its a sad world when adults can't see the very abuses taking place in front of them; when it is clear as day this child is being adapted and programmed to assess an alternate reality he can not prove nor "stay on track with" in the slightest. Does that sound like a genius? A child being steered into an admission by a psychotic adult filling his head with bullshit?
n/a jaydwalk 2017-05-02
You don't know for sure, pure speculation. Do you even have kids? How do you know that the kid doesn't frequent this subreddit? I could say we all are abusing kids then if they find their way here...
There were no edits in the video, so a dad filming his son and "keeping him on track" makes sense because it would be a worse video if that wasn't the case....
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
Tos would be breached and we are immune for free speech. Keeping a child 'on track' to making 'dangerous assumptions' is called criminal coercement.
Say the kids gets bored in this reality and wants to 'test a theory'. Kills himself because he's going to the next u iverse where he doesn't have to clean his room. Maybe he wants to explore a universe where santa claus is real.
Also if you intentionally court a minor online for amusement thats called child luring-
n/a jaydwalk 2017-05-02
Do you have kids? You do know that they need a little encouragement to stay focused...
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
Encouragement towards fantasy is obsolete in a parental role-
n/a jaydwalk 2017-05-02
You can be anything you want to be honey!
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
"Says the idealist"
The realist knows that telling a young child they already died multiple times in life; (finding this acceptable), has severe consequences on their future.
Which the parent is ultimately responsible in-
So No... "You can't be a pumpkin"; "PUMPKIN"
n/a jaydwalk 2017-05-02
Still no proof that his parents had any influence...
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
Facilitation is influence- If your kids snoking pot in your house and you allow it. That is influencing their environment.
n/a jaydwalk 2017-05-02
What the hell do you think we are doing here? How do you know the kid doesn't read this subreddit. It's all speculation.
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
We were discussing parental responsibilities in terms of child rearing. Tos enables us to chat about these things as adults... Its called immunity. Yet, if you tell a kid hes already died and later he then harms himselfn to 'test' a theory. (that you introduced to him). (Id be pretty sure thats a line that immunity ends).
n/a jaydwalk 2017-05-02
Anyone can read this subreddit...
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
Right accept we are not directly cyber bullying members of our community nor facilitating an abuseful process for monetization...
n/a jaydwalk 2017-05-02
Yet the kid could have gotten all this theories from here...Again you still don't know anything about his story and what his parents are even into...
n/a Ezazcil 2017-05-02
Well that's debatable.
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
No, its really not-
n/a Lo0seR 2017-05-02
Then let me see your credentials and proof, while you are at CERN. Other than that, you are just another random user with an opinion, which you definitely have a right to, but if you spout off absolutes and call people idiots, sort of taints your reply.
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
The multiverse is a wild theory. It has absolutely no value in mainstream science. We all share one reality- Fact
Disprove that and you will have a far better reward then my sympathy-
n/a Ezazcil 2017-05-02
Reality is what we tell each other, and if we are disputing it (Mandella Effect) then it's subject to questioning especially at the rate the differences are stacking up.
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
I fully understand the lines and concepts of the 'mandella effect'. Yet its more easily said as differences in communications and lost wisdom via talking heads.
Add in intentional misinformation and imbellishment and there you have two seperate realitys sharing the same experiences. I.e. jan sees a car heading at her at a high rate of speed. Jon is the driver. They both explain the circumstances of the reality they witness from their own personal viewpoints.
Yet this is the same reality-
Hence information is stored in your brains matter. It is not impervious to being destroyed when the information is lost. This is why the barrier of life and death seperates humans from our field of existence-
n/a Lo0seR 2017-05-02
I have read your comments on this submit, you would not by chance be familiar with telepunking? Have not seen a response of this caliber for such a meaningless post at this level outside of telepunk.
On a side note it totally correlates with religion and atheism, observation of reality influenced by those have certain truths can manipulate at all levels, O' what goes on behind closed doors.
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
I haven't although I was raised in a very unorthodox household. Which lead me to adapting to inferring all situations taking place around me.
n/a Ezazcil 2017-05-02
Ok, go argue with hawking then sir.
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
I actually don't prefer hawking-
n/a Ezazcil 2017-05-02
Point made.
n/a dinodares99 2017-05-02
Right, and we should accept that on blind faith because why exactly?
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
Likely in compressed vacume chamber's that mimic the environments of space. That would be my thoughts on this.
Note we have 13 colliders now. Not much a conspiracy to assume that they have an ulterior use when they publically announce finding rare particles within their underground matrix's. Again 1 or 2 would be expected. When you see double digits it makes you have to makes one question their true intent..
n/a dinodares99 2017-05-02
Vacuum chambers still contain significant amounts of matter, and the antimatter would collide with the walls and annihilate
In space the space wind would constantly cause annihilation plus you can't stop it from spreading out
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
It really depends on the chamber design.
We have nitroglycerin by example and use processes to make the material mobile. So I see no complication in the worlds leading scientific bodies coming to a relevant solution. We already create antimatter fragments. They don't seem to destroy the colliders thenselves.
So there seems to be a logic fallocy within your own admission. Being the world as it is.
n/a creq 2017-05-02
Cern is just smashing really tiny particles together and essentially taking photo's of what all the little pieces.
We might still be in a simulation though. Wishing they would test that out.
n/a logarath 2017-05-02
They would but we haven't come up with a good way to test it yet. Everything we know of is a part of the simulation how would we test that it is just a simulation. If you come up with a good idea you could win a nobel there :D
n/a creq 2017-05-02
If you look at what they are doing it's only valuable to physics and scientific understanding. They just aren't doing anything like what you must think they are.
There are people looking into the simulation thing. Not much to be done with it so far.
http://www.snopes.com/2017/04/25/reality-computer-simulation/
n/a logarath 2017-05-02
Right, I was just saying that as far as I know no one has come up with a feasible experiment to test to see if we are in a simulation. I honestly don't know if its possible to find out. Sort of like the cave of Socrates if I'm not mistaken.
n/a jaydwalk 2017-05-02
Proof that there is adult influence on his theories? He did build his own free energy device, or are you saying his dad built that for him too?
I don't find the adult in this video as influence but keeping him on track, you know as kids do...
n/a escalationstares 2017-05-02
"God is everything because of e=mc2 "
This kid is regurgitating absolute nonsense he doesn't even understand ...
n/a The_Veracity_Sector 2017-05-02
Your first paragraph is what I was going to say but didn't want to type it out.
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-05-02
Got some evidence to back that up, bud?
n/a Ezazcil 2017-05-02
Well that's debatable.
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
What I think is your one of the kids parents- or just as well equal to their failed interpretations of what makes a genius.
Einstein was a mathmatical genius using his skillset to explore the very algebra expressions utilized to discover patents. He already mastered basic mathematical expressions at an early age. So he was far more capable if expressing his work then you give him credit for.
You undersell actual work ethic to promote a child who has no grasp on basic calculus- So its obvious your either being intentually naive and sadistic or simply are just that.
I am well aware about the practical use of infinity. (as well as the symbol for its use); Ive just never seen it regurgitated by a minor thats suffering from child abuse live on youtube.
You have no explaination for your actions. This is called 'damage control' or 'brain damage'. Citing physicists as though your aware makes me feel you personally nurture this childs development. Its appauling-
I know einstein was a genius because its proven that his theories were his own.
This is a child pre programmed to recite exotic principals in a dangerous manner-
There is no telling how severely affected he will become as his 'genius' is picked apart revealing a sad mislead child whose parents filled his head with wild ideas and delusions of grandeur-
n/a logarath 2017-05-02
They would but we haven't come up with a good way to test it yet. Everything we know of is a part of the simulation how would we test that it is just a simulation. If you come up with a good idea you could win a nobel there :D
n/a dinodares99 2017-05-02
Right, and we should accept that on blind faith because why exactly?
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
"Says the idealist"
The realist knows that telling a young child they already died multiple times in life; (finding this acceptable), has severe consequences on their future.
Which the parent is ultimately responsible in-
So No... "You can't be a pumpkin"; "PUMPKIN"
n/a GlobalHell 2017-05-02
Right accept we are not directly cyber bullying members of our community nor facilitating an abuseful process for monetization...