I would be curious where the person that originally posted this to FB is from, because their understanding of taxes work on the business side is completely wrong.

Although the assumptions they make about taxes are completely inaccurate, I will agree that individual income taxes do amount to slavery.

I think the system is set up to take advantage of lazy tax doers.

I would agree with that except that no one is telling taxpayers to wait until the last minute to do their taxes. In fact, the government itself specifically tells everyone every year to not wait until the last minute and to get them done early. So I can't say I follow the logic.

They don't have to. It's the nature of our society. Enjoy things now be responsible later.

I would argue that income taxes are only really slavery when you're taxing barter. Currency isn't really a physical thing, it's a number. A promise made by the government, that came with conditions. The physical representation, bills and coins, aren't even yours to deface. The government just lends them out to use as currency coupons.

Technically you are correct. The currency itself belongs to the government. But they're not taxing the currency. Currency represents a debt that is owed to you for time/labor/skill that you traded and have yet to be reimbursed for.

When the government takes their cut before you see a single dime, they are stealing your time/labor/skill.

Maybe. But if you're not getting paid in labor bonds from your employer, then you don't really have the grounds to claim slavery, since you're using government services simply by accepting currency-based payment

It's a debt based currency. That's all that happens is the transfer of debt.

Your employer receives something from you therefore they are in debt to you. They settle the debt by giving you currency. You redeem your debt by paying your mortgage, the plumber, buying groceries, etc. Just like you did for the employer, those entities gave you something but did not receive anything from you in return, except evidence of a debt that is owed - the currency. So to redeem the debt you owe to them, they in turn transfer it to someone else.

Currency is a mechanism that facilitates the trade of labor/skill/time.

The difference between the employee's debt to you and the governments debt to the initial person who got the currency is that the governments debt was only offered conditionally to begin with.

You're saying you should be able to transfer that agreement without transferring the obligations associated with it.

Use the system thats in our place to our advantage.

The system is a tool. Just take it back from the corporate elite. Imagine what you could do with the current system in the peoples' power.

Not cut any current spending... Cut taxes to 0%, pay healthcare for everyone, yearly stipend for every american citizen (works in alaska). With these 3 things alone, you could then be free to pursue your dreams and do what you wanted to do with your life and not be a slave

Where do they get the revenue lost by cutting taxes to 0%?

Tax Wall Street transactions, estate taxes, corporate profits and a carbon tax?

Carbon tax. Gtfo

Assessed on producers of fossil fuels.

Infrastructure projects... nationwide hyperloop system, space elevator for deploying solar panels into space, thorium nuclear reactors, NAWAPA. Any of these projects would pay for themselves and generate trillions of dollars a year

But where does the capital investment to start those projects come from? Bonds or something? I would buy the shit outta those kinda bonds haha.

Development bank

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Bank_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bank_of_the_United_States

China and Russia are already doing these infrastructure projects/banking system

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Development_Bank https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Infrastructure_Investment_Bank

You can learn more from /r/New_American_System

Yeah, I am subbed over there, and I have seen these links flying around, but haven't read them until just now. I can't say as I understand it very well. Global finance is no specialty of mine.

Im going to create a post explaining the taxes/investing logic this weekend

That would be awesome. I mean, I understand the basic principles, I am just not so familiar with this that it is obvious to me why one is better than another, or more accurately what makes this such a vastly superior banking system.

https://ellenbrown.com/2017/01/26/how-to-cut-infrastructure-costs-in-half/

This is a good start..

Governments aren't broke. They have hundreds of billions in assets. They just hide those assets in another set of accounting books. The comprehensive annual fiscal reports prove this. Governments don't include real estate or stocks owned in their regular reports. They only include taxes coming in and payments out. It is an illusion Thst they are broke. If we did this, we would be in jail for fraud and tax evasion. Google cafr account government fraud.

I love the idea of sacred economics, but I'm unclear how we can shift to that type of economy.

For instance, in that video the idea of factoring in hidden external costs to purchase prices is brought up. Good idea in theory; if executed well it would go a long way towards aligning our system with reality.

However, under our current system we have nothing that can do this except for more taxes, which puts us right back at square one.

Maybe it would be different if the government didn't spend our money on so many ridiculous things, but as it stands now I think such a tax would just be more money to the MIC in the end.

We need a totally new way of thinking about society that doesn't involve a pathetic, corrupt, war-mongering government bureaucracy. Unfortunately it seems that TPTB have locked that one down by choosing our choice of representatives.

B-but.. Muh roads.. Muh welfare.

If the slaves dont pay taxes, who will build the roads the slaves use to get to their slavery?!

If slaves dont pay taxes, who will pay for the police and military to keep the slaves in line?!

If slaves dont pay taxes, who will pay for the education (brain washing) of new slaves?!

If slaves dont pay taxes, how will the slave masters be able to keep fucking the slaves kids?!

I'm free. I'm free. I'm free.

Lol egg Zachary

truth

He better be careful. This train of thought usually leads to untimely suicides with no investigation.

your comments remind me of this Morrissey song, World Peace is None of Your Business.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBCg28Pxc0Q

World peace is none of your business You must not tamper with arrangements Work hard and sweetly pay your taxes Never asking what for Oh, you poor little fool- oh, you fool

World peace is none of your business Police will stun you with their stun guns Or they'll disable you with tasers That's what government's for Oh, you poor little fool- oh, you fool

World peace is none of your business So would you kindly keep your nose out The rich must profit and get richer And the poor must stay poor Oh, you poor little fool- oh, you fool

Each time you vote you support the process Each time you vote you support the process Each time you vote you support the process Brazil and Bahrain Oh, Egypt, Ukraine So many people in pain No more, you poor little fool No more, you fool

We're serfs, with the "priviledge" to work for the system, with freedom to come and go and to attempt to benefit from the system as best you can. Evade taxes and then you will find out what slavery is: as a literal slave in the prison system with no freedom, and working for literal slave labor. Pay taxes, keep your freedom, just do your best to hold the government accountable.

I refuse to pay taxes, because I refuse to fund the endless war in the Middle East

97 million people of working age are not in the workforce being supported by the 97 million that are.

So we shouldn't pay any taxes then?

So you don't believe regulations or regulation enforcement should exist?

And the big companies trying to screw us over?

If freedom is a good thing, then, the more freedom, the better, one would think.

Ah, but when one, let's say, robs a bank, it is possible, there are odds, that he will be shot. Also, if you rob the bank once and the bank closes, then, you have to look for other gig. What I'm trying to say is that we are all slaves to chance, from the day we are conceived till the day we die.

One word: R O A D S

It's more like peonship, not slavery. Slavery would imply that the master has absolute right of life and death over you, the right to mate you with whoever he sees fit, and to sell your children at auction. And work off your ass on the plantation till you croak. So, it must be something, but it definitely is not slavery.

To me, it doesn't matter if "we" make all the shekels, what if "we" doesn't want to share the shekels? Big problem. It's either I make all the shekels or no deal. (not really the case, just theoretically speaking, I am not Jew and I am definitely not rich).

But only 0.01% are not lemmings and know this. So this will go on for another 100 years. The masses are asses L7.

Here's the biggest lie that was missed in the OP:

Tax revenues are completely decoupled from the nation's budget. You don't have to believe me, look for yourself. Compare any year's tax revenues (2015 was a record year @ $3.2T) to the actual budget (which is the national DEBT - and in 2015 was at a staggering $18.16T) and you'll see quite clearly what I mean.

The OP says

The seemingly never ending tax layers harvest billions of dollars per year and of which about 50%+ goes on military spending, aka bombs, bullets and occupying foreign land to expand the corrupt empire unlawfully.

But in fact, ACTUAL (including black budget!) military spending in the US alone is quite a bit larger than the total accrued tax revenues over the same period. Which means, we are taxed and taxed and taxed simply because. That's just the beginning of the story. I'll leave it to you to follow the rabbit hole down, but if you want a short and easily digestible understanding of this farce, here you go.

Now ask yourself, who do we owe the National DEBT to?

Edit: Also, a good replacement for money would be "proof of work cards". This would be a credit card type system that shows the cashier that you are working 8 hours a day, 5 days a week or whatever we agree upon.

Feeling nostalgic for the good old days, comrade? Communism doesn't appeal to many.

Patrice O'Neal once said on the radio how taxes are slavery

https://youtu.be/VCpnxCAurnY

Dude got very passionate about this topic in his act as well

It's not taxes I have a problem with. It's the fact that my pay check doesn't quite cover my expenses. No matter where I go, or how much I seem to be earning, rent seems to magically rise simultaneously.

Taxes are necessary, but income tax should be abolished for individuals and families.

I think the system is set up to take advantage of lazy tax doers.

Assessed on producers of fossil fuels.

I would argue that income taxes are only really slavery when you're taxing barter. Currency isn't really a physical thing, it's a number. A promise made by the government, that came with conditions. The physical representation, bills and coins, aren't even yours to deface. The government just lends them out to use as currency coupons.