They will then use the excuse that we are attacking other subs and rally more idiots behind their stupidity.

Better to be active and contain the madness here with thoughtfulness.

Barking up the wrong tree man, check the history if you like. I spent the past few days trying to stop u/canonsolar for his derailing/"account age fallacy" campaign, and exposed those 3, 3day old accounts who were posting about Clapper and commenting on each others posts to create an echo chamber.

Doin' god's work.

Jesus Christ, that sentence is a train wreck grammatically and philosophically.

Not helping your case.

alternative context

I just refuse to believe anything that account says.

If he told you 1+1=2?

umm...let me check what t_d says first

Out of curiosity, what post hit the front page. I just went to look and couldn't find it.

Thanks!

I definitely don't want a female president

• you

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Op's feelings towards not wanting a female president and believing pizzagate are mutually exclusive. Don't lump them together in attempt to discredit him entirely. People have flaws.

Full disclaimer is I mostly only lurk this sub and less so since Trump supporters took over and choose to turn a blind eye to any possibility of wrong doing by this administration. But I thought we've moved passed pizza gate... and the reason I bring it up is because I think it's important context for "who" believes this sub is under attack. The post is unnecessarily political and the reason stated for the attack is one worthy of exploring, even if it's only for a short period of time.

But I thought we've moved passed pizza gate

Considering half this sub are just The_Donald stooges, we're far from being passed it.

We will be passed pizza gate when the pedos are in jail .

First we need actual proof that the people implicated in Pizzagate are even guilty of anything.

Now that Comey has gone Trump will hopefully install a director of the FBI that will conduct a real investigation into Hillary,if so pizzagate will be examined.

I'm sure he'll find some partisan hack like Gowdy that will go after her nonstop.

While I think she needs to be investigated, I think it's more important that the FBI Director is fair and nonpartisan. Not someone selected for the express reason to investigate Trump's political rivals.

All the FBI needs to do is enforce the law evenhandedly.

If they did this Clinton would be in jail.

Calling Gowdy a partisan hack is beyond stupid.

I'm a pizzagate believer, but I honestly think that won't happen and that's because I think Trump is in on it too. Although I'd be willing to eat my words if I see him put them in prison and they don't pull him down with them. But at ther moment I think that he can't put them in prison because they would bring him down with them.

Lol do you actually believe your own crap? Trump and the Clinton's are FRIENDS. Lol get it through your thick skulls. They are on the same fuckin team.

I wish all these Donald loving chode monkeys would just get the fuck off this sub.

I wish all the pedo protecting shills would get the fuck off this sub.

Its not going happen though.

Sad.

Hey guy, all it would have taken is 2 seconds for you to look through my comment history to see that I fucking hate these creepy fuckers and all their weird "art".

But if you still believe Donald Trump is a "good guy" and hes on your side, I dont see very much hope for you.

Didn't bother to look through your post history because you where being rude and insulting.

Might I suggest that if you were trying to actually engage someone in constructive debate then refrain from insulting people. Insults will only lead to more insults and the point in the conversation is lost from both sides.

That is unless the point of the conversation was to defame posts that express an opinion you don't want to see so others who think the same are weary of expressing the same thoughts for fear of being ridiculed as "thick" or some type of "monkey".

Agreed. Too many Donald dickriders on here now. Makes worthwhile discussion difficult.

I've been saying that since the election started. Donald and the Clintons are friends!! Ppl gotta open their eyes.

I think you need to head over to voat and throughly read the executive summary...

They're literally using Urban Dictionary to say "cheese pizza" is a common pedophile term. Give me a fucking break.

Everyone knows "cheese pizza" in relation to child p*rn was created by 4chan as a meme/joke. I can't say for certain that the meme hasn't crossed into use in those disgusting circles by younger pedophiles, but I am pretty skeptical that 68 year old John Podesta is using 4chan meme terminology.

I will admit that there are some weird aspects to the story, but took make the Pizzagate theory work, they just assume to worst about every aspect to try and make it fit their narrative. Overall that post looks like Charlie from IASIP looking for Pepe Silvia.

I'm not saying definitively that Pizzagate isn't real. I remain skeptical and I find it irresponsible to brand someone as a child rapist without extraordinary evidence (actual victims would be a start).

Sure, there might be certain aspects of pizzagate that are just creepy coincidences, but the big picture goes beyond just one person like podesta. "Pedogate" is 100% real. There is a massive international pedophile ring involving high level gov officials that supplies children for occult rituals and blackmail purposes.

I don't doubt for a minute that there are sick individuals around the world working together.

But Pizzagate revolves primarily around Podesta, and in my opinion is/was driven primarily by partisan group think.

Which is why it has since evolved into pedogate. There are obviously republicans involved in this too.

Unfortunately, I think the very valid concerns in Pedogate are going to get overlooked by a lot of people because it's tainted with it's hyper partisan origins of Pizzagate.

Yeah I get what you mean. It's annoying when people keep bringing politics into this, without realising that by advocating for or bashing either party they're playing into the system. But there's potentially shills and useful idiots on both sides, so I think it's best to just call out the partisanship and move on without letting it rustle your jimmies. In regards to when you say "I thought we've moved past pizzagate" do you mean the msm version which pins it solely on dems and the idea they run a paedo ring out of comet's basement? Or do you mean what most are now calling pedogate, which refers to the bipartisan elite paedo ring in which members from the upper echelons of both dems and reps participate in? Because I, along with I believe many others in the conspiracy community, do believe very much exists.

This Sub has hit inception like levels of deception lol.

Wokest sleepers on the planet.

Yes, there sure aren't any racists or anything like that here...

What?

That, uh clears so much up..

I won't, bye

This is getting strange!

There's a few people who post stormfront propaganda here

You keep saying that, but I dont see it

I'm not seeing it, op. here's the text from the OP of top 5 comment chains:

• The paid shills are downvoting a juicy conspiracy.
• Get ready for some juicy leaks.
• So the reason for firing him was for his conduct in the Clinton case in JULY OF LAST YEAR? Sooooo, why did you wait until now?...
• Snowden: This FBI Director has sought for years to jail me on account of my political activities. If I can oppose his firing, so can you.
• Pulled a full Nixon, not a good look

They're also comparing him to Nixon saying that he must be guilty of something if he fired that liar who was "investigating" him, right?

I bet their cross posts will show the real difference in comment sections. The exposure the other subs get because they don't have the reputation r/conspiracy does means, those messages will likely prevail and our tin-foil hat wearing bullshit means any message here is heard in our sub only. Compartmentalized baby!

Not in so many words but.....that's the takeaway.

Wait, so you are upset that people on /r/conspiracy are being critical of the sitting president?

is uncle sam on trumps side or not?

plz don't talk about trump like that he's very sensitive but also very good at everything

Go back to r/politics troll.

Removed. Rule 10.

Tell papa trump he's winning, or he'll get mad....

Yes, but I'm not seeing the attack itself. You said:

Top 50 comment chains are about how terrible /r/conspiracy is

That statement is not true. Let's look at the posts on the second top comment. They are all about the level of moisture we expect to see in the future.

http://imgur.com/a/hE9k5

Maybe you can help me out with a link to a few actual posts attacking the sub, instead of unsourced quoting of non-attacks?

First comment is from /u/puppooChuppoo. He is a frequent commenter on this sub. While he is often critical of many subjects, he has his own pet conspiracies that he follows.

second post is from /u/groman28 posts almost exclusively on the sub.

3rd post is /u/adamdesautel. Most definitely an /r/politics shill, but not a shareblue bot.

/u/squanchyballs could qualify as a shareblue bot candidate.

Removed. Rule 10.

And I guess people from /r/the_donald aren't shills?

Dude, Hillary got 3 millions more votes, that mean the democrats are the majority and obviously we're going to see more anti-Trump subreddits than pro ones. I don't get how that is hard to understand

how could anyone be anti trump though? hes poised, professional and really seems to relate to the common man. his policies have all been sensational successes, and he had the most people ever assembled in one area EVER for his inauguration. Also, he was informe on 3 separate occasions by a respected fbi official that he has never been, and could never be, under investigation.

Not seeing it. These are definitely commentors that are virulently opposed to trump, maybe they serve an agenda, more likely they are just the dem counterparts to T_D users. But I am not seeing anything specifically talking about our sub.

That thread, as someone said earlier..was a train wreck all in all. I say let it die it's natural death...personally, I saw some disparaging remarks against the users of this sub last night. But..whatever..rise above, and focus on the real conspiracies.

That was my polite way of calling it a train wreck haha. But, we shall carry on, laughs and light.

Yeah, you would make a good mod..imo

There were many many comments against this sub in that thread the other day.

I only checked the top 10 or so.

It's been happening for months and months. I call it Operation Further Marginalize r/conspiracy (OFMRC)

r/conspiracy was marginalized by actual racists and woman-haters. Seriously most of you are fucking Psychotic. I can't count how frequently I've seen alt-righters here advocate for the brutal deaths of people like Podesta and Hillary. I have forwarded many of those posts to the FBI as these people clearly need to be monitored.

You have literally zero evidence that Podesta is involved in anything like you claim. Every claim regarding this issue can easily be debunked by logical thinking and application of context.

I accuse you of child kidnapping. please pm me your contact info so i can forward it to your local police.

Yeah, because before pizzagate people were so blase about child kidnappings and child murder, right?

there is a user here, who by going through my fairly recent postings you will be able to find, who has only been here for 44 days or so, gained 2000 karma today ALONE, has over 8,000 total on this 44 day old account, and only posts links from cnn, wash post, reuters, etc. but I cant call him out officially or ill be banned, so what the hell.

So argue and destroy the narrative he's sharing if he's wrong. That's far more useful than outing him as a shill, even if he is a shill.

I have no time to argue with shills/paid agitators I have no hope of winning over. I have a family and a God that I reserve these energies for

You have time, you're not that important. You're here now and you have enough time to do investigations into individual users accounts and tell on them.

And the point isn't to win over the shills, the point is to win over the audience, no?

Maybe you should read my post history from my dealings with TrumpRusConspiracy and his fake claims of being a suicidal loner in search of truth.

It's not fake.

well maybe the two arent mutually exclusive. If youre feelin down, its probably bc youre in a depressed state at the fact you are spending all day every day spreading disinfo from multiple accounts on this board.

One account. And you are right. This kind of stuff is not good for me. I've been trying to cut down.

fuck it man, lifes too important honestly to worry about tryin to argue against your ass online i got better things to worry about like my children. I was tryin to make other users aware but its like fighting the fucking ocean. im out bro, happy travels.

I respectfully ask you not to talk about me again

If you have time to dig through peoples post histories and count their karma by day, and then make a post complaining that you can't just accuse others of shilling, I'd say you can find the time to engage that person in some kind of conversation rather than just tossing an allegation at them.

I'm sure your God would understand, and might even prefer you converse with them rather than, you know, bearing false witness against them.

Gods not real tho

Exactly!

whats their name

Read my post history from like three days ago, I don't post that much you'll figure it out fast

oh yeah I love that guy. one of the view willing to post threads and have discussion on trump and russia.

you must be his alt.

hes really good looking. tall, too

unreal.

Can you please not do this type of stuff?

i cant help it youre already posting in every single thread I click into, and every single post is disinfo.

2 days is fast?

immediately posting under this username under the 4 day old thread in which you tacitly admitted to me that was one of your other accounts, yeah, theres no way youd have known how to get to that post in that thread and its only like page 5 of my posting history, I knew where to look for it and yet youd already found it, if you werent him youd have had to sift through 4 pages of posts to even find what im talking about. you didnt do that in the two minutes it took you to post under trumprus in the old thread(after "finding"it)

Do you not understand how easy it is to look for comments with res?

Dude I was fucking with you

dont bother with the bs.

Lol sorry

That's some powerful cognitive dissonance you've got there. Par for the course.

Yeah, except we are up to 450,000+ subscribers now. This sub just keeps on growing for some reason..

more than t_d!

Where's the thread?

Tyyy

Alright. By that logic: I accuse you.

Now because you've been accused, you should be investigated with due diligence. Do you not see how stupid this is yet?

you are a trip! I am loving the weirdness

It's actually just the AP article linked without any commentary. Pretty mundane considering that the AP article could have been linked from anywhere else on reddit.

If people want to use it as an excuse to attack /r/conspiracy I think I can write that issue off and move on to something more interesting.

People will bitch about this sub, but we also get a few people that come in and see that they can get some real news and information here also. Many an article that will get deleted from every default sub, even if they have to bullshit about the reasoning for the deletion, will be allowed to stand on it's own here. People see this and come to appreciate being treated like a grown-up where they can read the censored stuff for themselves.

One of their latest tactics is accusing everyone of being a shill. I keep getting attacked by recently created accounts calling me a shill with a 10-year old account.

What's funny is I'm being called a shill for not supporting the Russian hacking narrative conspiracy.

In other words, they're flipping their tactics. Since we called them shills, they're now calling us shills to muddy the waters.

They're now calling themselves conspiracy theorists, and pushing their own fake news and propaganda as conspiracies, but call you a shill if they disagree with their approved conspiracies.

It's basic divide and conquer, but they're getting smarter.

Reddit is pretty much the perfect place to practice using machine learning techniques and basic AI. If they're analyzing our responses, they can then shape new algorithms to respond. There's a possibility some of these accounts aren't real people.

Then again, if it is real people, they're idiots following a script. Which is just as likely as some of these accounts are really dumbed down.

And like clockwork the presence of anything but far-right Trump praising comments triggers T_D so badly they respond by making posts like this one.

It's not fake accounts dude, there are alot of people there are very suspicious of Trump's move. You've been in a self-imposed bubble for too long.

I checked expecting to see shit, but found none... inception, I know life's a dream, it's monochrome cover is peeling away

row, row, row, your boat...

This sub is being brigaded heavily by r/politics and not just in that one thread.

Spread the word about shills and fake accounts.

Yes, because that will bring integrity and respect to this sub.

Top 50 comment chains are about how terrible /r/conspiracy is, and how it's a hotbed of racists and partisans.

Mods should remove and ban for rule 10.

Lets not forget how every time a Trump fuck up happens this sub is swarmed by new accounts making post after post about Hillary Clinton and defending the Government.

'we love the powers that be! the minority party sucks!'

Eh, fuck em

Top 50 comment chains are about how terrible /r/conspiracy is, and how it's a hotbed of racists and partisans.

The fuck are you talking about?

As I see them, the Top 50 chains are not about "how terrible r/conspiracy is". I see only a handfull of related comments. And this sub, over he past year or so and in my opinion, has certainly become more of a hotbed of racists and partisans. That is a fact anyone here can see.

Stating the Top 50 are about how terrible this sub is is a flat out lie. And if you haven't noticed the racism and partisan opinions over the past year, you certainly are not paying attention.

What is YOUR agenda?

Not helping your case.

plz don't talk about trump like that he's very sensitive but also very good at everything

alternative context

I just refuse to believe anything that account says.

If he told you 1+1=2?

One account. And you are right. This kind of stuff is not good for me. I've been trying to cut down.