Question regarding marijuana?
79 2017-05-12 by kranz4ble
Hello and sorry in advance for any formatting errors. Over the years I've heard certain joke conspiracys about marijuana making you resistant to forms of outside influence or mind control. In the movie "Cabin in the Woods" one of the characters is a stoner, and at one point in the movie is said that the marijuana he is smoking made him immune to different types of manipulation.
They touch on it a bit at 3:20 in this video. https://youtu.be/xdi02FpOLBw
Are there any actual conspiracys true or false that touch on that?
Asking for a friend...
Edit: There is some heavy sounding shit in here...Did I just make a list?
115 comments
n/a scaredshtlessintx 2017-05-12
"Asking for a friend ".....lol....upvotex100
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-05-12
I think so metaphorically, along with other mind altering substances..
n/a kranz4ble 2017-05-12
I've heard some pretty mind altering stuff happens when people have dmt and other psychedelics, and I'm not just talking about when they're under the influence.
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-05-12
Yeah. Technically it's not the drug that is protecting you, but what you've learned from experiences under the influence. I've had some awaking moments while under the influence of high proof alcohol.
n/a kranz4ble 2017-05-12
Holy shit.... You just blew my mind.
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-05-12
Glad I could help.
n/a g3374r2d2 2017-05-12
I think that might be a one in a million gift with alcohol you have friend. Haha.
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-05-12
Yeah, I really do not understand it, myself. I suspect it's my overall perspective of life/self and reason for drinking. I have a theory that if your energy is good, good "spirits" will come into you, but if negative, negative or nefarious "spirits" will come into you. Not saying that it's good, because it's a poison to the body, but, meh maybe I need another ride on this ride, if you catch my drift. Cheers!
n/a aleister 2017-05-12
It's possible for any chemical to "change your frequency" so to speak. Think of it like a radio, when you tune out of one station you tune into another thus making you more or less receptive to the waves on that channel.
n/a Ty199 2017-05-12
Audio frequencies (music) works too.
n/a un0love 2017-05-12
I want to say no but sometimes when I'm really reaaaaly calm and slightly high I can hear the "hum" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hum
Really trippy
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n/a ABrilliantDisaster 2017-05-12
I think that's true. I've seen it said (though can't recall where) that in the MKULTRA experiments many drugs were used and marijuana turned out to be counterproductive to their goal of programming their victim. One more reason they don't want it legal, maybe.
n/a kranz4ble 2017-05-12
So.... Is Drake potentially an MK Ultra victim? https://youtu.be/Qrze8Nq5OmI
n/a ABrilliantDisaster 2017-05-12
Either that or he's a Bill Clinton fan
n/a depdepdepdepdepdepdp 2017-05-12
This part is actually true, I'm lucky to have friends that are much older than I am and I've heard some shit.
n/a thegreenwookie 2017-05-12
Same with the lsd and magic mushrooms
n/a DenSem 2017-05-12
Having never ventured beyond marijuana, I would have guessed DMT as well given the reports.
n/a ABrilliantDisaster 2017-05-12
I believe they did use copious amounts of LSD, though
n/a acidbass303 2017-05-12
yeah LSD is both. LSD can free your mind but it can just as easily enslave it. It all depends on what youre being suggested while under the influence.
n/a ABrilliantDisaster 2017-05-12
I stay with what's in nature because as i've observed, every time man tries to outdo nature it just bites them right in the ass. I think we have things out there in the natural world that are perfect and need no tweaking. Mj, shrooms, ayahuasca - these things aren't used in those experiments because they truly are beneficial to the mind and perspective.
n/a acidbass303 2017-05-12
shrooms are nature but the psylocibin molecule is from an alien planet. Nature almost never has phosphorous atoms in its naturally produced molecules.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/22/eb/e8/22ebe819e42809d80c9342bf07d5bc96.jpg
Notice all the psychedelic molecules are CHON chains as you would expect (Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen, Nitrogen)... all of them except mushrooms. It has this weird phosphorous attachment almost done on purpose by someone or something. Just a thought I heard somewhere else.
n/a ABrilliantDisaster 2017-05-12
Where do you think Psylocibin came from? Really asking because i suspect a few other plants might be not quite earthly..or earthly but are the result of GMO round one from a collapsed civilisation.
n/a acidbass303 2017-05-12
Mushroom spores are the most dense biological artifact known to man. They are so dense they can survive in space. The current popular theory is that these psylocibin mushroom spores are flying around the vacuum of space looking for planets to grow on. The phosphorous atom seems to act like an antenna to communicate back to the "alien mind" that created it. It might be why some people experience "alien beings" while on mushrooms more than lets say LSD or mescalin.
n/a ABrilliantDisaster 2017-05-12
Maybe they were brought here. Surviving in space would be one thing but entering an atmosphere sounds a bit of a rough ride even for a mushroom spore. It's interesting in conjunction with ancient religious texts which talk about beings coming here and introducing various technologies to humans, including genetic engineering.
n/a Ty199 2017-05-12
Cathy O'Brien said that
n/a HillaryRapesChildren 2017-05-12
She also said that cannabis disrupts programming, might be something to it...
n/a kranz4ble 2017-05-12
We need a team on this!
n/a ABrilliantDisaster 2017-05-12
Interesting. I've read some of her testimony but i didn't remember that. Thanks.
n/a mastigia 2017-05-12
I think it makes it possible for you to see outside of the regular human parameters that normal people are generally susceptible to. If that makes sense. I think of it like being able to see around corners. Things that you would never be able to intuit sober become possible to see.
n/a kranz4ble 2017-05-12
I get that. I mean, my friend understands what you're saying.
n/a mastigia 2017-05-12
Your friend sounds like a quality guy.
n/a efisch96 2017-05-12
"I swear officer, I only use Marijuana as a mind control deterrent"
n/a kranz4ble 2017-05-12
"I only smoke so I don't get glaucoma."
n/a Muh_Condishuns 2017-05-12
I have a lot... of glaucoma... - Pigeon, Mike Tyson Mysteries
n/a Muh_Condishuns 2017-05-12
This is now added to my list of reasons why I smoke which include:
*spine bent like "candy cane"(doctor's phrase) from car accident
*I like it and the people who don't can fuck off and die of alcoholism
n/a Autocoprophage 2017-05-12
I smoke it once a year to test its potency
n/a Babykinglouis 2017-05-12
There isn't a conspiracy, it's more like a joke. Back when a lot more people disapproved of smoking weed, it was seen as an activity only people who were resistant to authority would do. Also, when you're high, you are more likely to question authority or to not care, because you're feeling good and relaxed and not in go-go-go-listen-up-do-this-do-that etc mode. Also maybe because you're feeling good/relaxed, you might pick up on other people's tense vibes more easily.
n/a kranz4ble 2017-05-12
Makes sense.
n/a usernamenn 2017-05-12
Did you miss that the movie is also about people being manipulated to behave in ways they wouldn't normally, so a secret world-controlling cabal can continue its ritual sacrifice of children to appease the evil blood god they worship?
Anyone? Hidden in plain sight.
n/a kranz4ble 2017-05-12
I didn't miss that. Ritual sacrifice and everything, I know that's a thing but I was more curious about the marijuana deal since it's not on this sub very often.
n/a usernamenn 2017-05-12
Well, if tptb have spent the last 70 years saying it's bad and we should stay away... probably something good in it.
Although I'd be wary of an pharma-made weed that comes out in the future.
n/a kranz4ble 2017-05-12
Do you think they already have a hand in what comes out of legal states? Like GMO or harmful additives?
What about the "illegal" stuff from Mexico?
n/a usernamenn 2017-05-12
I have heard rumours in the past about warehouses full of pre-rolled joints belonging to philip morris and the like. Can't say how true it is but these people don't mess around when it comes to making money. Would be foolish if they weren't eyeing up the market.
I couldn't say what they might add but I just wouldn't trust them. best you could probably do is knowing the person growing it.
n/a thegreenwookie 2017-05-12
Yeap. Monsanto allegedly created Sour Diesel. Its been back crossed into hundreds of different strains. When it's patented anyone growing anything with Sour D crossed will owe Monsanto money to grow their product...legend on the hill
n/a kranz4ble 2017-05-12
https://science.slashdot.org/story/12/02/15/1956248/300k-organic-farmers-to-sue-monsanto-for-seed-patent-claims Related!
n/a bignuke86 2017-05-12
I have no problem with smoking, but it does concern me that it's pushed by the same MSM that is so evil regarding everything else.
n/a Reality_is_a_scam 2017-05-12
Fuk monsanto haha
n/a un0love 2017-05-12
That's my thought too, recently there was an article that said scientists discovered the GENE in cannabis that gave it its distinct aroma (citrus/diesel/skunky) etc. I call bullshit because I'm pretty sure they discovered that like 30 years ago and just letting us know now. Good thing is since it's worldwide they can't cross pollute every single crop around the world or force people to buy their seeds so there will always be good stuff somewhere
n/a Memeliciouz 2017-05-12
The future is now.
Though this is only THC and doesn't include any of the other cannabinoids, so it can't really be called weed.
n/a JustAnotherCarl 2017-05-12
The movie ends with them smoking a joint and letting the shit hit the fan. Weed allowed them to see the beginning of the end. The government and health industry say it's a "Gateway" drug and I believe them. It opens a gateway in your mind to view things in a different way. I like Cabin in the Woods because it makes me think weed is either the most powerful force in the film allowing the young adults to survive to the end or it's the worse thing ever because it brings the end.
n/a bignuke86 2017-05-12
Whoaaaaaaa. Haven't thought of this movie since being red pilled and holy smokes this just blew my mind
n/a kranz4ble 2017-05-12
Give the whole movie another play through. Its nuts after being red pilled.
n/a GeorgeBushIsAHero 2017-05-12
It's the complete opposite dude. Marijuana is a drug that allows liberals to brainwash you easier. That's why so many young liberals smoke weed. It's a fuckin mind control drug. Look it up and DON'T LISTEN TO THE REST OF REDDIT.
n/a kranz4ble 2017-05-12
You lost me.
n/a bittermanscolon 2017-05-12
I think with a username like that, they're just yanking everyone's chain.
n/a GeorgeBushIsAHero 2017-05-12
ITS TRUEjjhkkg
n/a Rage_harles 2017-05-12
I mean, just speaking through my own experience: everyone of my closest friends who its more open-minded, thus 'smarter, and more inclined to consider conspiracies as truthful, when presented with necessary evidence, have always been my friends that smoke weed. It certainly opened my mind, and continues to. It also, I think, literally affects your consciousness, which opens your mind up to the fact that maybe there's more to reality than the collective has been fooled into believing. It's weed that lead to my journey of awakening, when consciousness becomes aware of itself, and the ego is seen as the illusion it really is.
There's a reason, beyond $, that marijuana has been kept from the public. I have a habit of thinking fanatically, but it just seems so obvious that weed can open your mind in a beautiful way -- in such a way that you realize you are a self-aware manifestation of the universe, resulting in the death of all suffering.
n/a kranz4ble 2017-05-12
This thread is mind fucking me.
n/a Rage_harles 2017-05-12
Hahaha! Smoke some weed.
n/a kranz4ble 2017-05-12
why do you think this post was even made to begin with? http://gph.is/1WC1foY
n/a GlipGlopSuperMop 2017-05-12
I would but i have an internship :((((((( WTF WORLD
n/a Rage_harles 2017-05-12
Ha! Feel that. Been there before. But all the internship taught me is that I'm more comfortable being homeless than working as an intern lol
n/a GlipGlopSuperMop 2017-05-12
I might do that, but as of now this is the plan, i'll make some money and due to my lifestyle, it shouldn't be hard to save up enough to get where i need to be, it's all perfect, it's really bizarre how the path is unfolding right in front of me
n/a Rage_harles 2017-05-12
Sounds like a great plan :) congratulations on finding wisdom at a young age (I'm assuming you're young because of the internship, but of course I could be wrong). That's something that'll greatly impact your life, forever -- not the internship, but the wisdom!
n/a GlipGlopSuperMop 2017-05-12
Yea, its definitely an obsession of mine, your post reminded me of this experience i had last night of an ego death, or a removal of identification into a vast plane of existence, the more vast the more light there is - the more no suffering can touch you - funny how afraid the ego is and then once it's there it's fine lol - thanks for the wishes - your post brought me back to that vast unattachedness :) really powerful
n/a Rage_harles 2017-05-12
So happy. Love and light, friend.
n/a kbjay 2017-05-12
Check out the Law of One: Ra Material
Extraterrestrials that are billions of years ahead of human civilization define Infinity as Unity, ultimately everything is part of All there is/Infinity and thus everything can't help but be the Creator/Universe experiencing itself.
Nature of reality/existence is of Oneness. Everything is Divine, there is only truly Freewill. Law of One also talks about the creation story of "God"/existence as well in session 13 http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?s=13
https://youtu.be/rVUEdj-OIMA
https://youtu.be/Tltx0Ipc3UU
Bentinho, as well as people in Gaia.com are all about the Law of One, as am I. Take what resonates, leave what does not.
Also Bashar stated the Ya'yel civilization (same extraterrestrial group that did the Phoenix lights) are going to be the first extraterrestrial race that lands on earth for open first contact anywhere around 2025-2040 https://youtu.be/KProeqHL05E
n/a Rage_harles 2017-05-12
I appreciate that you paste this to any thread you find open minded. The Law of One has the power to open one's eyes thoroughly. The words just feel true, in my experience.
n/a kbjay 2017-05-12
Thank you, appreciate it ~ ✨😇
n/a _kthechief 2017-05-12
Seeing comments like this give me hope that I'm not the only person thinking these thoughts. Massive +1.
n/a kranz4ble 2017-05-12
This belongs in the best of reddit.
n/a shockaDee 2017-05-12
Agreed, but don't give in or support the propaganda platform that is reddit.
n/a Muh_Condishuns 2017-05-12
Doesn't a pattern of memories established over "time" or even the illusion of it create distinct personalities and thus "individuals?" Doesn't the creation of a truly unique perspective from unique experiences that then completes and compliments another perspective prove that we are One AND individual? Like Odo from DS9? One that is also part of an eternal and interdependent mass of "ones." The "you" that contributed your comment and not "me." Your perspective contributed to mine.
I like to think of consciousness operating like a hive in constant communication with "itself" mostly in "OK statements." "What needs are present around me including my own and how do i fill them?"
I ask all this while puffing of course.
n/a Rage_harles 2017-05-12
Was too stoned last night to formulate a response...will get back to you in a bit this morning
n/a Rage_harles 2017-05-12
You are certainly 'you', while also being the totality. I think that's why 'going within' is often referred to as a journey. What I'm realizing through experience, is that this 'journey' inward is really just a game of the mind, in which the mind tries figuring out what the hell it is, and that 'trying' ultimately tires the mind out, and you come to the experiential conclusion that all you have ever been is in this moment, right here, right now. Every journey leads you to now. That very fact implies that what we are is now, and then. We went on the journey into the 'then', and found ourselves in the 'now'. We are the external and the internal, the here and the there.
I think the ego is fundamental in truth being discovered. It we hadn't developed ego, which is really just the illusion that takes us away from truth, how would we know truth? How do we know black without knowing white? We can't. It's fundamental; essential.
Now, I do think each person is born with a unique personality that pre-exists in our DNA. Like, some people awaken before others (discover the truth of ego as illusion), so does that mean they will not have as distinct a personality as someone who believes in ego for a lifetime? I don't think so. For example, I was born into a family where one parent is a hugely materialistically successful narcissist, and the other parent is a selfless angel. Growing up, I always felt an internal paradox, a sort of conflict, where I wanted to do the right thing (for others) but felt compelled to act on behalf of self. Eventually, that paradoxically confusing thought structure (part of me wanted to be good, part of me wanted to be bad) lead to depression, which lead to figuring out who the hell I was. In truth, I'm not someone who cares about self. I'm not selfish, and when I acted selfish, something within me felt disgusted. So, the ego was there to show me what I am not, which unveiled what I now know I am.
Ultimately, I am you, and you are me. There is no separation; that separation is illusory. I am your perspective, and you are mine. Life is a mirror of self, while also being selfless. The paradoxes are endless to the mind. But to truth, it's all perfect.
Edit: not sure I answered a single thing in your post. I tend to get started on these metaphysical topics and just start shooting from the hip. Hope I added to your discussion. Now, time to blaze!
n/a okokok7654 2017-05-12
I wish I could upvote this more than once... spot on
n/a Aders83 2017-05-12
Thanks friend.
n/a GlipGlopSuperMop 2017-05-12
Who said the dharma was dead? :)
n/a ladybossoz 2017-05-12
Interestingly I find weed before investigating conspiracy theories make me much more able to identify bullshit - it's like a truth serum in reverse, I can tell if something is truth or bullshit. It's fascinating because some material I will resonate with then test it again (under the influence) before I take it the material on board. It's heightening my sense
n/a OGMIOS14 2017-05-12
Huge Grin I miss my 'listen to Allan Watts' lectures' evenings. La Vita E Bella.
n/a Rage_harles 2017-05-12
A. Watts changed my life. His take on The Joker is otherworldly brilliant.
n/a OGMIOS14 2017-05-12
It is indeed . I'm glad you replied. Alan watts came to my mind so instinctively that i felt you'd know him. What a time to be alive!
n/a Memeliciouz 2017-05-12
Reminds me of this study. I think they are more like it too.
n/a Rage_harles 2017-05-12
Fascinating. Thank you for sharing that.
n/a bonsaihorn 2017-05-12
But Miley Cyrus?
n/a ldp242 2017-05-12
My friend's view regarding marijuana and how it relates to the power structure:
Marijuana releases a tremendous amount of energy in the mind. This energy must be focused somewhere. In the absence of all external stimulus, the energy of the mind has nowhere to go but inwards. So it becomes almost super-humanly introspective, reflective, contemplative. For some who are not willing to have such an experience, who were instead hoping to just chill out, the experience can be over-whelming and lead to discomfort, anxiety, paranoia. For those who are willing and intending to have the experience it can lead to deep, deep contemplation, some cultures believe towards enlightenment. So the strongest effects come from using marijuana in an absence of external stimulus, the extreme example being the suffis doing so in caves for weeks (months?) on end with a minimum of even food.
Used in this way, marijuana poses a huge threat to the establishment that seeks to control the individual and his mind. The individual becomes independent of thought and Free.
This same huge energy can lead to total immersion in an external stimulus. If this is paint, music, art, or even academia, it can still be hugely productive, but an external productive that benefits the individual in a more removed way. This could benefit the System or not, depending on the work being done and how it is subsequently utilised.
However, there is also a third scenario, which involves the use of marijuana with still external stimuli, but those of an aimless and frivolous nature. This isn't wrong necessarily, I've been told there's great pleasure in getting stoned and playing video games, or watching comedies, or just fucking about with friends, but it can be very tempting to repeat such hedonistic activities at the expense of other perhaps more productive activities. It's cheap, very enjoyable, not particularly harmful.
This last scenario, my friend believes, is particularly relevant today because there are so many frivolous distractions available. It is now possible to watch fail videos and vines literally endlessly and they be, to a certain extent, provide constant pleasure. Clicking videos like a rat in a skinner box. Certainly many people have enough discipline or responsibility to avoid such a scenario, but many do not, and with distractions becoming increasingly available and pleasurable, even sober, the latter is likely to increase.
Even if marijuana can make you less susceptible propaganda, as in the first case, it might be offset in this latter case by the constant bombardment of propaganda incurred in continuous system sanctioned entertainment.
So in summary, my friend would say it depends on the context in which marijuana is used.
n/a princezenon 2017-05-12
This is peak reddit
n/a Groomper 2017-05-12
This reminds me of when /r/NoFap users claim that not masturbating gave them superpowers.
n/a Cobra-Serpentress 2017-05-12
Conspiracy one: Hallucinogenics make you easier to Manipulate. Weed makes it easier for outside forces to control.
Conspiracy Two: Hallucinogenics make your mind more resistant to outside influence.
Answer: No proofs Either way, all tests {mostly get refuted for some reason} have shown that each individual has a different Chemical formula. Your mileage may vary.
n/a Orangutan 2017-05-12
It offers you a different perspective, but it isn't the answer.
n/a Ty199 2017-05-12
You're more likely to find some answers by looking through different lenses.
n/a Orangutan 2017-05-12
Cool. Makes scents.
n/a Rutherford82 2017-05-12
It makes you happy, which usually leads to doing nice things for people and generally promoting positivity.
It also allows to relax your mind, which opens up new pathways of thought, i.e. you are more open to new/different ideas.
Lastly, it heightens your awareness of those who are not open to new ideas and helps foster resistance against.
n/a gaslightlinux 2017-05-12
If the reason you're asking questions about mind control is because something you saw in a movie, you're not resistant to mind control.
n/a efisch96 2017-05-12
Just try shrooms
n/a Jordapan 2017-05-12
I think occasionally smoking can be good for your psyche. But I also think abusing marijuana can damage your psyche. I don't smoke habitually anymore because it was hurting more than it was helping.
n/a zenmasterzen3 2017-05-12
This alleged Government mind control document says opiates makes you more susceptible to mind control via external fields whereas pot has the opposite effect. Meditation also helps diminish the effect of mind control:
www.stopthecrime.net/COMM%2012%20BRIEFING001%20(1).pdf
n/a kranz4ble 2017-05-12
I think we're on to something.... I hope I'm not on a list now...
n/a zenmasterzen3 2017-05-12
NSA is taking all our data and using AI to create threat profiles of everyone ... returning faulty goods, being charismatic etc. apparently makes you just as dangerous as someone buying fertiliser because it shows you can't be controlled. Is being on the "too stupid to be a threat" list really a good thing?
n/a heymikeyp 2017-05-12
I hate smoking, but ediblez are still great though, amiright?
n/a Ty199 2017-05-12
I know what a puff will do, but when i eat something its a blind rollercoaster. (which can be fun on occasion)
n/a heymikeyp 2017-05-12
Gets you fucked up. :)
n/a Memeliciouz 2017-05-12
Yup. Vaping is also pretty nice.
n/a diamondstylus 2017-05-12
MJ is an herbal gift of knowledge that can be a powerful ally if the relationship is not abused.
n/a GlipGlopSuperMop 2017-05-12
Yea Cathy O'Brien MKULTRA Victim swears by it, says it tremendously helped in the deprogramming
https://www.google.com/search?q=micheal+obrien+mk+ultra&oq=micheal+obrien+mk+ultra+&aqs=chrome..69i57.6360j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=michael+o'brien+mk+ultra+marijuana
n/a TedCruzGoblinLord 2017-05-12
Can say from experience, it seems to enhance your ability to see mental tricks, and logical fallacies. I've noticed that people with cable TV are the most brainwashed.
n/a 6ThePrisoner 2017-05-12
I remember channel surfing high once and stopping on pro wrestling once. I was so confused why these grown men weren't embarrassed doing what they were doing. It was so silly and painfully fake.
That suspension of disbelief was totally gone and I couldnt enjoy it. This has also happened with movies and it ruins it.
n/a Ty199 2017-05-12
Wait... you had to get high to realize that shits fake??
n/a douchetun 2017-05-12
cannabis is a low grade hallucinogen. It will trigger very similar effects to the following and then some; mushrooms., peyote, LSD, some research chemicals, fasting for 2+ weeks, getting tweaked out for a couple weeks and not sleeping.
When you hallucinate, you are putting yourself back into a childlike state of mind. You drop all labels, you remove all barriers and are capable of seeing the universe for what it really is, you.
I am one with the Force. The Force is with me - Chirrut Îmwe( I. M. WE. ; I am we)
n/a zeropoint357 2017-05-12
The only thing pot makes you resistant to, is work.
n/a 500my 2017-05-12
weed gives me superpowers... but i am part weed
n/a Reality_is_a_scam 2017-05-12
You were put on a list the moment you started searching for awnsers. We all on lists here. Welcome
n/a digitalplutonium 2017-05-12
I am regularly smoking with friends and with the exception of some really intelligent guys who don't smoke, they are my only friends I can properly discuss history, politics and conspiracies.
I cannot confirm with certainty that the plant itself makes you more resistant to be influenced by media etc, I have always had the urge to question things more. Once in a discussion with friends we thought that weed being illegal (Europe) and the stigmatising of weed smokers by society has the effect that you, if you smoke, automatically begin questioning things more. After all, it's a fucking plant that has been completely banned. This itself is so ridiculous you just have to ask why. Then this starts a chain reaction and you learn that cannabis was used in around 50% of all medicine in the 19th century and a lot of clothes were made of the same plant . You come to the conclusion that the pharma & clothing industry just teamed up for this ban, to be able to massively increase their profits by producing artificial replacements for medicine (painkillers etc) and clothes (nylon) and selling it for much more than the products out of the weed plant. Cannabis was just too cheap, too easy to grow in many climates. Maybe there's an effect somehow connected to your ability to critical thinking but I am not sure if it is the effect of smoking it or the effect of being stigmatised and therefore starting to question things. But it has certainly contributed to my interest to understand the world for what it really is and not for what media/society wants you to believe it is. I am now reading a lot of books about history, politics and money, trying to learn and understand how our world really works.
n/a Loose-ends 2017-05-12
Well one of the very first of many "funny things" you discover the first time that you smoke and toke-up, is that you've certainly been lied to and told a lot of nonsense about this stuff you happen to be smoking.
Another thing is that whatever you thought "getting high" meant before you actually did goes right out the window at the same time... a momentary flash where you can't decide if this is all just some kind of a joke that finding yourself spontaneously laughing you ass off about it at the very same time pretty much answers that question for you.
Now you broke a taboo by deciding to do it and you've broken through another major barrier right then and there when you did... and it is funny... funny as in ha-ha funny and funny as in odd, unusual, or peculiar all at the same time.
Thinking or talking about anything besides all the sensations you seem to be picking up on just keeps on getting interrupted by them, so you pretty much have to go with flow, work them into the conversation or into whatever you thought you were thinking about and go wherever that happens to take you. That can range anywhere from the sublime to nonsensical but either way seems uplifting enough to put a smile on you face or squeeze a giggle or laugh out of you and anyone with you.
In a world as complex, rigidly defined and organised from the top to the bottom as the one we all actually live in this sort of free-form experience and way of sensing and looking at things after all the hard work and conditioning done on us as children to get us to stop doing and forget all about it, obviously represents a loss of that conditioned control over us.
You realize after a while that it's not so much the drug as it is a state of mind that it permits you to recover that and as time goes by you require less and less of the drug itself or encounter what we used to call a "contact high" being around someone or in a group that's been smoking-up before you arrived and climbed right on board.
The fact is the experience isn't exactly new and it doesn't feel abnormal. It was familiar to us long ago before it got buried under all the layers of shellac about how we should think and what we should think about and all the artificial separations and definitions and descriptions of things that we were taught to focus on and sort through far more than on any of the things themselves and the kind of sensations we ignored rather than paid more attention to because of that. When you simply and spontaneously pay attention to those sensations and how they feel at any given moment that's basically what "intuition" is and is all about... getting good or bad "vibes", off certain people or ideas or things going on around you, if you will.
So, using grass is definitely going to make you more intuitive and more trusting of that intuition as time goes by if you allow it to.
Does that make it harder for others to manipulate, coerce, or use you? I can when you're tuned in enough to feel or sense it no matter what the setting or circumstances are, once again, if you let it and have learned to trust those feelings.
When it comes to whatever is presumably true, it isn't enough for any ideas or explanations to simply look or sound true if they don't automatically feel that way at the same time, too. If you don't want to find yourself getting manipulated or having your thoughts directed the way someone else wants them to go for their own purposes you have to pay attention to that because whenver that feeling isn't there what you're dealing with is either a lie or worse yet a half-truth.
n/a sundayatnoon 2017-05-12
It's been a decade or so since I last smoked. All it did for me is cause my brain to pat itself on the back and give the chemical equivalent of a "good job" and thumbs up to itself without having really earned it. I churned out some of the worst work I'd ever done and thought it was brilliant.
I suppose if a type of mind control required a reliable mental state, then changing that mental state could screw with the mind control. I'm not really sure how MC is supposed to work though.
n/a nollinostalgia 2017-05-12
So with this I was a huge and I mean huge stoner and I had been for years. Now I am still advocate for all the good it does and have no problem with and basically everyone including my mom smoke it. However I had to stop, I was literally loosing my mind, I would smoke and then just let my mind consume me and my mind (due to borderline personality disorder and anxiety) is not a fun place to be. So first I quit smoking pot, and my thoughts became less paranoid and slowed down not 50 thoughts a second, then I quit cigarettes and my body stopped aching and my anxiety got better, then I quit all alcohol and I felt great physically, then I stopped my cable, took up yoga and the last thing I did was stop food from anywhere but farmers markets and local resteruants and local meat shops. I also only drink water and tea. I have never felt more clear and calm in my entire life. My mind finally is quiet and let me tell you it is fucking beautiful. I try Not to consume anything but things an animal would I stay away from electronics(except Reddit and music) and I read read read anything and everything.
n/a Dippy_Egg 2017-05-12
3:20... Was that a Protopipe? I haven't seen one of them in years!
n/a neomaton 2017-05-12
It's a mood altering drug, which can make you look at things in a different way. It's a little bit like "red pilling" the brain when you get really stoned for the first time.. you become aware that there's more to the world than what you see in your default, government approved state.
n/a DrChemStoned 2017-05-12
Lol I mean it definitely can be tool for reaching enlightenment and deeper consciousness so in a sense yes, but it's not an anti-mind control drug, no more than having strong self control or something similar.
n/a anthrolooksee 2017-05-12
Eh, I think it's just another topic people have been lied to about, so once they use Marijuana they realize it's not that bad and they have been lied to. Then they start wondering what other ways they have been lied to.
It's certainly not something specific to marijuana or a cause of marijuana specifically. There are many topics/life events that wake them up to lies and therefor conspiracy.
Having Lyme Disease wakes you up to conspiracy for several reasons. One, you realize there is an active attempt to discredit people who have this common bacterial infection. Doctors will routinely say it does not exists despite the fact its in your blood and DNA as determined by extensive and accurate lab tests. So people with Lyme start to question why doctors are taught nothing about Lyme and why our surgeon general will not come up with a designated treatment protocol. They start to wonder why big pharma will not research Lyme, but will hold the patent on it. Then, they start to question more than just Lyme.
Same thing happens with those injured by vaccines. The same thing happens to those who have been misdiagnosed for years, not getting better, given prescriptions that don't help or make things way worse.
Any topic that makes you realize you have been lied to. Any topic that makes you question your assumed safety. It all wakes you the fuck up. The cool part about marijuana is that it's common and it's a big wake up call to users that govt does abuse its power.
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n/a kranz4ble 2017-05-12
"I only smoke so I don't get glaucoma."
n/a Muh_Condishuns 2017-05-12
This is now added to my list of reasons why I smoke which include:
*spine bent like "candy cane"(doctor's phrase) from car accident
*I like it and the people who don't can fuck off and die of alcoholism
n/a Orangutan 2017-05-12
Cool. Makes scents.
n/a Autocoprophage 2017-05-12
I smoke it once a year to test its potency
n/a Groomper 2017-05-12
This reminds me of when /r/NoFap users claim that not masturbating gave them superpowers.