Has anyone noticed how many pop stars start off being marketed as innocent and suitable for kids, and then once they're popular they start getting more and more satanic/disgusting/perverted?

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Far creepier, Miley dresses like an elementary school student on the voice. Intentionally. Too much.

Because Disney....Britney...all the great wrecks were Disney babies....the redhead...I can't remember her name...

Lindsay Lohan... Britney kicked off her career with that schoolgirl uniform thing in Hit Me Baby... Pulled it off better than Toni Basil playing a highschool cheerleader.

Right. I actually have a crush on L.L. ...which speaks volumes.

Here ya go... some weird conspiracy theory website I bookmarked a while back... says that Lohan was originally twins like the Olsens... that's how they did the Parent Trap remake without special effects.

https://pieceofmindful.com/2016/10/21/the-curious-case-of-lindsay-lohan/

Thanks. Another weird observation is that miley was innocent, to satanic, and back....with effort...

Didn't even need to shave all her hair off... just like... half of it.

Yeah, see I have a crush on miley too, so now I can't hate on that hairstyle. She was on two and a half men with Ashton Kutcher who I definitely crush on....I digress.

I like me a girl with a side shave... my last gf had one... It was sexy.

I bet. Looks rad on pretty girls.

Rhianna cold rockt it.

Works for women with high cheek bones. A common trait of us sexy people. Think they call it a pixie or something. Personally it was always that bright red hair dye that drew my attention to girls like that

Mr bpd, I can't tell if you're joking.

What do you think?

I think it is a horseshit theory... fun, but horseshit... the site has a whole bunch of twin and body double conspiracies... weird stuff.

Creepier still when she dresses like a baby.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DfwJA0f0UTg

Exactly. Thanks for this.

Also, I'm pretty sure "Hello Kitty" by Avril Laveen is a song about secretly having sex with children. The lyrics are...disturbing.

I got 30 seconds in before the urge to smash tablet was almost too strong. Definately a weird song, probably pedo anthem.

I mean considering Rihanna's second album was titled, "Good girl gone bad," it's really no secret.

Christina Aguilera was the most obvious. Teen pop star then for her new look she releases "Dirty" and a music video of her pelvic thrusting for 3 minutes.

Britney Spears had a song not a girl, not yet a woman. Next album came I'm a Slave 4 U

That was from that album.

Seriously? Interesting......

The songs go hand in hand, big theme of the album really.

It helped her appeal to a wide audience. I don't think there's a conspiracy to Britney Spears' musical career.

and a music video of her pelvic thrusting for 3 minutes.

Wonderfully said.

Cultural subversion at it's maximum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfwJA0f0UT

BB (Baby) Talk by Miley Ray Cyrus.

This could not get more obvious.

Sometimes they just cover it up by making them super poppy, too; not just by coming from super cookie cutter to rebellious all of a sudden. One Direction has some "naughty" stuff on their first album but you don't think about it too much because of how it sounds and because of the supposed target audience.

You can get away w/ anything if it has a catchy enough tune. The super poppy song "pumped up kicks" is about a school shooting.

What exactly are they getting away with?

You know "them" & "stuff", man.

They get you hooked to like and trust them. Then you start to worship and want to be like them. All part of the plan. All of them have handlers that tell them how to behave for the masses.

So Katy Perry is disgusting and perverted but you think Trump is A-Okay? Interesting.

Posting in a Trump subreddit means I think everything he does is okay. Thanks for letting me know. You're a sheep whose been trained to see every issue in black & white. One extreme or the other.

And yes, I support the war on drugs because I don't think disney stars should be constantly promoting casual pill popping and cocaine use.

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Everyone here is a sheep except this guy lol

lmao calling everyone who doesn't agree with you sheep is really childish and makes you seem kinda like a douche

Really? This wasn't a political discussion.

No, just hypocritical OP.

Hypocrisy of what, exactly?

For thinking Ariana Grande is disgusting and perverted while being a fan boy of the pussy grabber.

Another case of misinterpreting what was said by somebody. He never said he did grab someone by the pussy, he just said he could, and he's right. There are loads of self-loathing women who will willingly throw themselves at somebody rather physically unattractive in order to get the taste of a billionaire lifestyle. I dated a pretty well-known Indy car driver for a brief period of time and the amount of debauchery was...ridiculous. Don't underestimate what some women want. Some of them are despicable.

Been doing it since the 60's, although they are better equipped and much more targeted these days.

You mean there's a hidden meaning behind someone being marketed to young people then as they grow old with their fan base, they must continue to generate attention by changing their persona, appealing to an older audience and continuing to stay in the public limelight in order to create media publicity and have them not fade into obscurity?

/r/im14andthisisdeep

Grow old? These changes usually happen within a couple years sheep. Good try though.

You know nothing about marketing.

Marketing = debauchery???

Yeah apparently normalizing extreme degeneracy is okay because "they gotta stay relevant somehow mannnnn".

or maybe you're overreacting a little? Nothing they're doing or singnig about is even remotely satanic or extreme. Casual drug use, sex, doing stupid/reckless things? that's called being a teen in america.

They're also not even the ones who decide what goes in the videos most of the time, its the director/producer slipping in the illuminati references, so if anything your beef is with them.

Katy Perry's newest video is literally a video about cannibalism and human sacrifice. Totally no satanic themes there.

And once again, you're wrong. Teens have always been rebellious, but have you seen teens today? They're not like teens from the 70s.

Rebellious isn't smoking a joint anymore, it's being 12 and wearing booty shorts and smoking weed every day and looking up to people like Kim Kardashian.

Your memory of history is rose colored man people have been shit forever and its not some recent trend. Shit girls these days STILL look up to marilyn monroe and shes no better than kim, TONS...literally TONS of music has been abiut fucking and drugs, since at LEAST the onset of rock music.

smoking weed every day

Wrong.

They have completely debased and demoralized the youth. Anything goes now, nothing is bad, nothing is degenerate.

Really tho?

nice post. :)

Yeah & they should stay off your lawn too!

You realize in the 70s that if you said "have you seen the teens today, they're not like the teens from the 30s" you'd have entirely correct? And further that if in the 30s you'd said "have you seen the teens today, they're not like the teens from the 1890s" you'd also have been correct?

She is marketed towards children

I think you misinterpret her intended audience. Katy Perry is marketed toward people of all ages who enjoy tits.

if you're smoking weed and skipping school everyday, you're a degenerate.

if you're wearing booty shorts and looking up to Kim Kardashian you're just annoying.

You might have a point if Satan was real...But it isn't.

Yes, like seriously, has no one taken an advertising class?

Daaamn everyone look at this superior mind taking college classes and shit. Marketing ay? You must be a big baller with a more trusted opinion than anyone else here huh.

Woke AF dude... Woke AF.

Yeah, you're right, let's all listen to this inbred hick on the internet....

Yeah because you totally know my family and I. You don't happen to owe any money to any collection agencies do ya bud? Because my "inbred" family saw a bunch of dipshits spending money they didn't have as soon as slick willy started chanting "everyone should own a home".

Yup. We're reeeeeaaaallll dumb you superior intellect you. Pay off those student loans promptly Einstein.

It sound like you're inferring that educated people are idiots because they paid for an education and owe money. Then you seem to blame poor people getting tricked by banks into buying homes with shady agreements that inflated their rates at a speed so fast and amounts so hefty that no one could pay, causing the largest financial crisis of our time. It not only bankrupted the home loan defaulters, but the entire fucking economy. The government not only didn't punish the banks for it, they bailed them out with taxpayer money. And you're blaming the poor suckers who were sold a dream. Wow. Your ignorance is really, disheartening.

Because the poor tale you told is the universal story of every debtor right? Plenty of people borrow money with no intent on paying it back. And no not all educated people. But some. Plenty with tons of book smart yet zero common sense ready to believe any horseshit the media sensationalizes. Their ignorance and placidity is partially why we are all in this giant shit storm now. They just sat by and consumed like leeches while the worst of societies parasites have taken over. I have zero sympathy for those who recklessly consume and live above their means. My inbred family taught me even if your making 5 million live live like you only make 250k. Its not just the poor one who are stupid either. Have you ever worked for a collection agency or are you just being a good little hipster and fighting the man? Because as a collector i saw none of that sap story and a whole lot of 30k millionaires living life like they dont care. Until the boat they show off on FB gets repoed. The ones i dealt with were majority jack asses who got that magic plastic card and started swiping away with no forethought of "i may have to pay this back huh"

It seems like you wanted to tell everyone that you did. Which is a weird ass thing to be proud of imo.

Sex sells, its the oldest trick. You're also selling a rebellion against the family and the tradition. Learn some psychology.

You know nothing about the agenda to create generation after generation of degenerates.

Yeah when I was 13 my tastes we're completely different than when I was 15 or 16. So year it only takes a couple of years.

Child stars have young fans. The stars go through puberty. So do their fans. They become sexually interested and express themselves through their work. One thing every generation of aging people seems to have in common is a feeling that those darn teenagers are devil worshipping sexual deviants. The teenagers rub it in their faces because they're rebelling, as most teenagers do. Sexual expression is normal, and the "satanic" crap is only huge to people who were brainwashed as kids by silly religious ideas invented to keep the peons obedient. You sound like you're coming from a place of religious extremity where sex is evil and the devil is to blame for human suffering instead of the humans.

Yeah, there's a big difference between a 12 year old and a 16 year old. That change happens over just a few short years. Pop stars go through the same changes and need to keep connecting with their audience.

The fact that people change a lot during pubery doesn't have to have anything to do with satanism, cults, and uman sacrifice.

why do you think most all disney stars sing and dance in their early years? prepping both the star and the audience for the future music/tv/movie career.

The demographic of kids who watched Hannah Montana grew up and don't watch it anymore, she got older too, so her marketing team decided to repackage her with a more edgy adult gimmick where she gets sexual and sticks her tongue out.

I don't really see a big conspiracy there, its just changing someone's style to cater to their teen fanbase who aren't little kids anymore. Britney Spears did the same thing once she got a little too old to be singing about a high school crush.

This is how the Cabal works..."We'll fund you through your awkward kids years but when you're 18 you're gonna take it off for us and shake your ass"

First they make Miley look safe and nice, so as the parents let their kids become fans, then they turn Miley evil, influencing as many kids as possible, the Satanic ones broke through the parental protection barrier.

I didn't know this was /r/puritanvalues

Weaken the bonds of family and society through the promotion of depravity.

Weaken the bonds of family and society through the promotion of depravity.

Thus theredpill (sub); though generally marriage is ill advised (I personally wouldn't do it in Australia either), the lessons of that sub can be applied for men to lead successful marriages.

Some interesting reading from that sub on cultural marxism.

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That's just how kids think and behave as they go through those stages of life. It's not a fucking conspiracy.

Yeah it's just a natural change in a girl's life when, like Katy Perry, she becomes interested in stuffing her videos with occult, Masonic, and apocalyptic symbolism.

She does it for edge. Like madonna writhing around in leather bustiers wielding crucifix sex toys to piss of the old prudes of her time. Or the Beatles singing about drugs to piss off the old prudes of their time.

You think those are all organic musical artists and not Illuminati controlled puppets?

Being rich and spoiled is a conspiracy now? making connections where there are none lol

Satanic? Lol wut?

Almost like it goes hand in hand with the hyper sexualization of kids throughout the years. Ever read brave new world?

I think they get manipulated and marketed that way... but also it coincides with them going through puberty and what parental/support system they have around them....young Disney stars get older..and like most people between 17-25...sex is on the brain 24/7.......I think if I went from 13-19 starting as sweet kid and evolving to a horny 19yr old...then throw fame,power and an unlimited bank account behind it....there'd be some headlines I'd regret down the road.

The Mickey Mouse House or whatever is basically a Masonic training ground for mind controlled tranny pop star puppets.

Satanic panic again?

This one's pretty straightforward: sex sells. A child star can only be marketed towards children, but once they're an adult the easiest way to market them towards adult is through sex appeal. It has nothing to do with trying to make kids horny, it only has to do with what makes the most money.

This doesn't have to be a nefarious scheme. Miley Cyrus growing up had every choice made for her. Disney decided on her hair cut, what she could wear in public, everything about her appearance and image was controlled because Disney owned Hannah Montana.

Then her 'shocking' appearance at the MTV Video Music Awards happened, and for days she was the most discussed celebrity in the world. It was about marketing, advertising and rebranding, and also about rebelling against everything that kept her controlled as a teenager. Hannah Montana had to be wholesome? She became a sex symbol and twerked against Thicke. She had to have a certain haircut before? Now she's going to shave her head.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

I l8ke how you're describing patriarchy and misogyny as if it's some deep conspiracy.

Christ what a bubble you live in.

Keep paying attention to the surface level buddy.

The entire point of a star is the entire point of just about everything, to make money.

You all are acting like the existence of patriarchal capitalism is some Illuminati ass shit you're all uncovering for the first time. That's you're somehow to only people who have ever pierced the veil and realized that pop stars are manufactured by the record industry. No shit there is a formula to use to manufacture pop stars, the world is full of books written by former record label executives talking about the formula they use to manufacture pop stars. It isn't some nefarious scheme, it's just a bunch of (mostly white, mostly old dudes) making money off of music by exploiting women and ripping off black people.

No shit Sherlock.

Sex sells.

Yea, its almost like when children actors become young adults they want to be more mature and target an older demographic.

Ariana Grande and Miley started out as children.

Most people do become more sexual as they get older.

Pssst. God isn't real. Neither is Satan.

It's almost as if people grow up.

I agree to an extent, especially for Miley. Ariana really hasn't gone too crazy into sexual stuff. I think Miley wanted to shed her good girl Disney image and she also got into drugs. Whether it was planned or not I think you could argue either way. Britney and Christina Aquilera are good examples of what you're saying for sure though.

OK, I'll bite. Please provide proof of the Satanism you mentioned.

OP check out vigilantcitizen.com. The owner of the site does a really good job breaking down the entertainment industry and occultism.

The owner does a "good job" making insane allegations.

Am not remotely religious but here's my take on this.

The US was historically mostly Christian. The entertainment industry is mostly Jewish.

Jewish people aren't big fans of Christians but mostly, they don't abide to 'sin' the same way Christians do, so they have no problem selling sin', which is generally really profitable if you're peddling to the youth markets where they're not highly religious.

Sex sells because it's controversial due to the US Christian base having a lot of hang ups about sex, so they freak out, which drives up controversy, and sales.

If you want to see how disgusting it gets all it takes is this one video. Miley blatantly sexualizing babies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfwJA0f0UTg

yes!!! The beatles have an album cover with ripped apart baby dolls ( I can't remember the title) Rolling stones : all mocking tongue ( kali) Read miles w mathis articles, it goes down to the CIA

Does this apply to the Rolling Stones, Beatles, The Doors and Jimi Hendrix? If so give me Satan anyday! Cos they fucking rock!

Inversion is very important to the Sabbatean/Frankists who control the media.

These living examples of corruption are sacred to their mission.

Follow the leader...

...motherhood is for suckers...

...abandon your family...

...deep state is your friend...

Both Hanlon's and Occam's Razors tell me that, at least for the majority of these cases, it's much easier to see this as a matter of becoming a part of the Hollywood society than anything directed specifically upon the celebrities. There could be direction of the culture, but it really doesn't appear authoritarian in nature. Cultural inertia in a sphere of ideologues who are continually unhappy with their lives fits the bill much better. (It also explains why Scientology uses the particular methods they do.)

This is how PR works under18 and you have to present a certain image once they hit 18 their PR agents literally tell them to go get into trouble, to make a spectacle of themselves and cast off their little kid image to generate free press and create a new image.

Welcome to adulthood

Here's the real kicker that you're completely missing: Most of these songs that have offended you so much weren't even written by the asrtists you're claiming are "satanic" and "disgusting"!!!

Max Martin

Since 1999, Martin has written and co-written 22 Billboard Hot 100 number-one hits (most of which he has also produced or co-produced) in the United States, including Katy Perry's "I Kissed a Girl" (2008), Maroon 5's "One More Night" (2012), Taylor Swift's "Blank Space" (2014) and The Weeknd's "Can't Feel My Face" (2015). Martin is the songwriter with the third-most number one singles on the chart, behind only Paul McCartney (32) and John Lennon (26)

Dr. Luke

As of January 2011, he has garnered 21 Top 40 Billboard Hot 100 singles, becoming the producer with the third most such hits since the charts were created.

Greg Wells

Wells has songs on over 85 million units sold. He has produced and written with Katy Perry, Keith Urban, Adele, Mayer Hawthorne, Twenty One Pilots, Rufus Wainwright, Theophilus London, Weezer, Kid Cudi, OneRepublic, Grace VanderWaal, Dua Lipa, Ariana Grande, Kelly Clarkson, Pink, Pharrell Williams, Holychild, Ella Eyre, The All American Rejects, Otep, Deftones, Aerosmith, Burt Bacharach, Celine Dion, Crash Test Dummies, Elton John, Jars of Clay, and the Count Basie Orchestra.

These are just a few of the heavy hitters, but in reality most pop music is manufactured in board meetings. Just look at the reach something like Clear Channel has. Since they changed their name to "iHeartMedia" they have continued the same shady and overreaching bullshit they have always pulled with our media.

You're asking the wrong questions, and being misled in the exact way you're supposed to. Fuck the musicians, who cares what they do. The real culprits are those actually in charge of our media.

I like the logic leaps in OPs argument. I mean as the stars age, so do their audience.

But interestingly the music industry social conditioning could be a thing. Since the rap industry had closed doors meeting and they changed rap from being anti establishment to violence and hos n shit. THere was a video posted on here about it years ago. And rightfully so it made sense because back in early 90s rap was wholesome it discussed issues and pointed to injustices int eh world. Then it was flipped out of nowhere. Ad this intellectual problem discussing music turned into crap of drug,, guns and gangster rap. The reasons were to curb anti establishment movements (as they are always being shutdown) and promote violence int he lower classes, a strong link to prison industrial complex is inferred in that.

nice post. :)