Dutch whistleblower possibly fake?
1 2017-05-13 by fragmentedmind83
For those who hasnt seen it yet... This might be a scammer.
I've been following it for a while and the latest news is he won't give any background information of his previoulsy jobs (cloth/car industry for instance).
Dutch alt media are getting suspicious. (its in dutch)
I saw this topic blew up a while ago and wondering what you think about it.
42 comments
n/a fragmentedmind83 2017-05-13
Btw. According to the article he has gathered more then 1m for crowdfunding his "bank"...
n/a ReptilianDystopia 2017-05-13
Of course they're gonna attack/discredit him because he made an impact and discussed the elite and their perversions.
n/a fragmentedmind83 2017-05-13
There are still evil people though and walking around the bush is not very trustworthy.
n/a ReptilianDystopia 2017-05-13
I just find it odd that every time someone calls out the elite, we are told not to trust them and they're scammers blah blah blah.
I ain't paying him shit. I trust his message though; that's all that matters.
n/a fragmentedmind83 2017-05-13
I've been following the leaks since octobre and I think the NWO is real.
Nevertheless... There are people who can take advantage of this... When you cant give any background info of what you are saying... Then what is credibility?
n/a shockaDee 2017-05-13
I am interested in this, there were others that said his body language was genuine.
People were trying to discredit on the first day, but there were no articles discrediting him.
Then a few days later once the media gets together and decides what their narrative for going after him will be, they begin to attack credibility.
I agree there is no info on this guy, and it is suspect, but this guy is a hell of an actor if it's fake.
I agree with others however, that anytime people like this come out, and then ask for money, it is suspicious.
n/a fragmentedmind83 2017-05-13
Thats exactly my point. I'm trying to find truth. When you cant even give details of your previous jobs (excluding working for elites) then you have a credibility issue... I want to believe, but need some factual things about him.
n/a ReptilianDystopia 2017-05-13
Of course. I just find it odd that its been weeks since this video was passed around and any grievances people had are only now being posted enmasse.
n/a fragmentedmind83 2017-05-13
When it was released there was a call out for giving credentials. The guy who did the call out got a message from PR they would respond back in a few days due to personal issues... Now if I'm not mistaken that PR left because of lack of credentials shown in the dutch article.
n/a ReptilianDystopia 2017-05-13
Who are PR?
n/a BiglyMAGABack 2017-05-13
No he didn't.
He never named names.
n/a ReptilianDystopia 2017-05-13
Its pretty obvious who he is referring to.
There is no need to name names.
n/a BiglyMAGABack 2017-05-13
And that's why it's fake.
Because the culprit is whomever you want it to be.
n/a ReptilianDystopia 2017-05-13
Wrong. We know the elite carry out child sacrifice. Whether its Soros, the Rothschilds, the Venetian Black Nobility, it doesn't matter. He was clearly referring to the elite and wealthy clients he works for. Elite and wealthy; there's only so many within that group of people.
n/a BiglyMAGABack 2017-05-13
And none you've ever heard of. Why? Because he didn't offer any proof, other than dog-whistling whichever culprit people wanted to believe.
n/a ReptilianDystopia 2017-05-13
He gives a name, he dies. Its that simple. Its not like Icke; the guy worked with the elite. He can't go around breaking agreements.
Proof is irrelevant. We don't have concrete proof for 99% of the shit we discuss. Its all about pieces of evidence.
As for his whistle blowing; his statements match that of other whistle blowers. Therefore, I have little reason to doubt him. If he insisted on advertising his bank, I would be suspicious, but he didn't do that. He only mentioned it after the interviewer did. He simply wished to tell his story.
n/a BiglyMAGABack 2017-05-13
n/a ReptilianDystopia 2017-05-13
So do we have 100% proof for any conspiracy posted here? Or are you gonna play mental gymnastics and avoid 90% of a post in order to try and be clever?
The only way we can truly verify this stuff is by grabbing an elite by the balls and brainwash them into spilling the beans. Otherwise, you're not gonna find 100% proof of elite pedophilia and child sacrifice.
I clearly stated we needed evidence. I also stated that Bernard's statements match other whisteblowers. He is a piece in a giant puzzle; nobody is relying on a single source for 100% proof of anything and to do so makes you an idiot; to expect 100% proof from a whisteblower also makes you an imbecile.
n/a BiglyMAGABack 2017-05-13
VERY FAKE NEWS
n/a ReptilianDystopia 2017-05-13
Like 90% of your posts? Fake bullshit with no backing whatsoever.
n/a BiglyMAGABack 2017-05-13
Ah, the classical projection technique.
n/a ReptilianDystopia 2017-05-13
Nope. Its true. I've seen your posts and they're garbage. Typical Trump sucker garbage.
Like you complain about this Bernard dude; he's done more to redpill people than you have. All you've done is spread lies in comparison.
You say "its faaaaaaaaaaaaaake" with no evidence whatsoever and have the gall to talk about the lack of evidence from the whistle-blower's end. Guy's life could be in danger, yet you insist on being a chickenshit coward who puts everyone else down.
n/a BiglyMAGABack 2017-05-13
He is an echo-chamber.
No one, especially those in the alt-right Dutch (where he is from, and of the language he is speaking) finds him credible... because there's no evidence!
n/a ReptilianDystopia 2017-05-13
Fuck the alt-right. Bunch of idiots like their left wing counterparts: the SJWs.
However, I see your point regarding evidence. Well we can wait and see. I think he's legit, just based off body language; this is something my gut tells me.
n/a BiglyMAGABack 2017-05-13
Fine, we'll wait and see. I too am interested in seeing this through.
n/a ReptilianDystopia 2017-05-13
Why did you change your post?
Backtracking? Seems a bit shilly in here.
n/a ABrilliantDisaster 2017-05-13
There was a campaign to discredit this guy the second that video came to light. I've talked to people like him before - the info he's giving is absolutely authentic.
n/a fragmentedmind83 2017-05-13
Everyone can say everything, but prove... Thats whats important.
n/a ABrilliantDisaster 2017-05-13
How do you want this guy to "prove" himself? You have to know what whistleblowers are up against when they speak out.
As for Pizzagate - this is exactly how people respond to victims of RA and sex trafficking too. They dismiss them and then claim "there are no victims".
n/a fragmentedmind83 2017-05-13
What if he is a scammer and people use this information as prove for pizzagate and this information proves to be false... What will do that to the pizzagate narrative in the netherlands?
n/a ABrilliantDisaster 2017-05-13
The info is not false. I'm sure of that much. PG activity - that's rampant in the Netherlands. This is not hurting anything. It doesn't even if this guy was faking it.
n/a fragmentedmind83 2017-05-13
The knowledge about satanic rituals and child abuse has been known for quite a while... Before wikileaks has started leaking things...
I'm just trying to find the truth. Someone with this knowledge can abuse the people by using empathy. I didnt get the same vibe in his telephone call when he spoke about it as in his video... This might be due to the fact you cant see his face...
When you are starting a bank you have to be trustworthy. When you cant even tell about your previous jobs (in clothing and cars) then how can we trust him?
n/a AstralBliss 2017-05-13
I don't think you understand. There is no amount of proof that would convince you it's true. Why? Because of the implications of his testimony. If what he says is true then we are living in the fallen world depicted in the Bible, Jesus is literally who he claimed to be, and you and me and the majority of the world are separated from God. You don't want to believe it so nothing will convince you. You'd prefer to live in a world of speculation where you never have to settle on one truth. That way you never have to do anything, you're never wrong, and you don't have to worry about the fate of your eternity.
n/a morganpetersen 2017-05-13
H
n/a fragmentedmind83 2017-05-13
I've seen it. I'm not an expert on body language, so I cant verify if he is honest. When I first saw this I believed him. I even recommended his video, but since then.... I got my doubts
n/a LANKumentary 2017-05-13
LOL.
"i'm not an expert on body language, so I can't verify if he is honest."
You watched a video with someone who actually was a body language expert. What did the expert say?
You believed it then... hell you even recommended it to people right?
Now your looking for the truth! Sure you are.
But, but, but... how do we know the body language expert is telling the truth? Go find the truth trailblazer.
n/a fragmentedmind83 2017-05-13
I watched a video of someone who explained the body language and how its all true.
Did you know this wasnt his first time he told the story?
n/a BiglyMAGABack 2017-05-13
No shit it's fake.
It was fake the minute I saw it. Why? Because there's nothing of substance there.
n/a fragmentedmind83 2017-05-13
It does match the pizzzagate narrative.,..
n/a BiglyMAGABack 2017-05-13
The Pizzagate Narrative is completely separate.
https://johngraysonblog.wordpress.com/2017/01/16/julian-assange-reporters-erecting-a-demon-by-protecting-hillary-clinton-or-the-secret-holy-war-of-the-elites/
n/a fragmentedmind83 2017-05-13
From what I know about pizzagate is that there are alot of high profile players being into kids.
Also there are rumors (and mentionings in wikileaks) of satanic rituals... Which sounds the same as what he is telling.
The problem comes when corrupt people get to know this they can use it to scam people and hurt the research.
People are speaking about pizzagate and alot of people are scepticle. When someone who believes pizzagate is real and refer to the dutch people this vid and eventually its false... They disregard everything.
n/a Reality_is_a_scam 2017-05-13
Maybe hes scared?
n/a R0158 2017-05-13
Not lying. Emotional reaction was totally genuine at the sacrifice part. You can see him holding the tears back 2 minutes or so leading up to it. Eyes slowly turning wet and red until he has to actually say the words and you can see him break. I used to do a bit of acting and I can tell he isn't acting.
n/a fragmentedmind83 2017-05-13
Everyone can say everything, but prove... Thats whats important.