Great post. 100% correct.

I agree, great post!

I am really concerned about the upcoming generation.

It is SO creepy to me how politically correct my students are...

I also got extremely frustrated the other day, when I was told people cannot be racist toward white people. I have experienced extreme racism where I live as a white person.

I definitely understand that it may not be on a level that minorities face, but it is still racism.

This generation is tied to tumblr beliefs.

And the thing is, I am not even like one of those white supremacist KKK people. But do not tell me what I have experienced is a lie!

Yeah you're not white but half your posts are about Jewish conspiracies and complaining that anti-antisemitism is seen as a bad thing.

Not going to waste my time arguing with another bigot obsessed with global cabals, just gonna say don't write posts like "How do you deal with it?" (referring to imaginary Jews controlling your education etc), when it's so obvious why no one listens to you. You may find an echo-chamber that makes you feel like your views are mainstream, but they're not.

"I know Jews aren't the only ones behind it, but they ARE the mastermind"- Seriously how can you believe that then wonder why you find yourself isolated. "How do you deal knowing the truth"--hate to break it to you but the truth is the vast majority don't share your knuckle-dragging delusions.

Wow you're a fucking asshole!

I guess everyone gets salty about a few things. I get salty about people calling Jews an inferior race- not exaggerating, look at OP's submissions/comments. Also salty about owls- why does everyone think they're so wise??

How about you, besides SJWs (I'm guessing) what makes you salty?

I don't get salty over foolish opinions. So SJWs and bigots don't phase me. Perhaps it's like they are broken clocks and they are right twice a day. But they show courage.

It's the cowardly mainstream that gets my goat. It's people who make logical fallacies e.g. "You're rascist so I can automatically discount anything you say about the Jews." ad hominem. It really doesn't matter how noble you think your actions might be.

Probably I could pile a laundry list of fallacies on your defense of Jews. Juadism is a religion not a race - false equivalence. Anti-semitism is a blatantly exceptionalist and probably a racist term. It doesn't even make sense considering who Semitic people actually are. These are things that make me salty.

Hidden agendas make me salty.

You're not white but half your posts are about Jewish conspiracies and complaining that anti-antisemitism is seen as a bad thing.

Are you seriously saying that only white people can be anti-semitic? That's just as retarded as saying black people can't be racist. Also you need to calm the fuck down, you are actually the epitome of PC culture. You froth at the mouth and resort to ad hominems when OP says anything you perceive to be unfavorable to your worldview. PC doesn't have to be mandated by law, it is the systematic overhaul through public brainwashing of how people think and react to opinions they disagree with. It's the precise reason why when people like Jordan Peterson get so fed up that they have to rant about how important free speech is to society on a college campus that others swarm around him and shriek "You are perpetuating hate speech!" simply because he has a history of opinions they disagree with. That is PC culture and that is why it is so scary because it isn't mandated by law and can be obfuscated by simply saying, "You have free speech and so do I." But it isn't free when one side gangs up on the other to suppress theirs and refuses to listen and have civil discussion. It could also be called "tyranny of the majority", which is what our Founding Fathers feared.

"Are you seriously saying that only white people can be anti-semitic?" No I was saying the opposite if anything- "You're not white but half your posts are about Jewish conspiracies"; of course anyone of any race can hold whatever opinions they want.

"You froth at the mouth and resort to ad hominems when OP says anything you perceive to be unfavorable to your worldview" Sorry but that's just not the case, everyone has different worldviews so we should focus on what we agree on not what we disagree. But when I read this (about Jewish people): "It's such a shame Hitler was so close to humiliating them and making the world realize the parasites they truly are. "It also makes you realize why they fear Nationalism so damn much, a healthy enough society would never tolerate them."- written recently by OP, you can't pretend that's just another opinion. I feel it's fair to vehemently disagree with supporting Hitler's agenda. Your response makes it sound like I was mad about an edgy joke or something.

IMO there's a fair discussion to be had about you call PC culture, but people who write that Jews are parasites, plotting against other races etc, are not contributing to the discussion.

Congrats on discrediting OP in the same way PC culture discredits people who don't hate Trump right now. Proving his point

this topic and post you made has/is being brigaded.

its gotten much worse recently

Yeah, stay strong brother.

stay strong and await the day we burn every lgbt subhuman and left-wing degenerate

no violence plz

"everyone that disagrees with me is a shill."

correct, and it's a pathetic show of desperation

and notice which user has 12+ upvotes for every post?

It happened at around 3 am I watched all the votes switch massive upvoted/downvotes on me and others in that thread

yeah, look who got all the upvotes?

bit of a giveaway to me

Yup I was attacked by like 4 shills/trolls at 3 am telling me what a sick human being I am for not believing in gay marriage, yet their post history was wayyyyy more bigoted and sick than anything as banal as not believing in gay marriage.

I got called sick by a racist who visits pedo 4chan boards and admitted to sex with his sister and when I called him out on it his whole defense was lol it's 4chan

ahh .. chan eh? say no more

lol "Hmm, could it be that this sub disagrees with homophobes harassing people because they're gay? Nah, must be shills."

what is wrong with being a homophobe?

nothing, it is one of the characteristics of a mentally sane human being, i hope that you recover from your illness

What? Pffft. If someone disagrees with the ideas I espouse they are clearly shills. Who needs discourse when you could just agree with me!

And so many of these same people are complaining about a lack of civil discourse...

Yeah, I made a long and rambling post about this. They're completely inconsistent in how they apply free speech. They want to be able to criticize lifestyle choices and ideals that others espouse while being immune to people criticizing their speech. One of these days they'll recognize how hypocritical it is.

Can't have quality discourse when accusing others of shilling and digging through their post history in order to discredit them instead of addressing the content of a post. It's actively encouraged here. Maybe they'll recognize this too.

Wait so now you're defending it as well? So it's just acceptable to be a racist pedo on 4chan as long as you don't do it on reddit? I mean I really don't follow/not tracking u man.

People are stupid.
They think the white race is the only one,s to get fucked whit.
And there fine with it there the devils.
But if u look deeper all the races ( and the home towns ) are getting fucked whit.
Instead of uniting and fighting against it.
They actively work to try and attack / destroy the others as well.
Cus they were fucked whit so should others be fucked whit.
U know its only fair LOL
The middle east is getting fucked whit.
The west is getting fucked whit.
Africa is getting fucked whit.
Asia is kinda safe ( for now )

Racism is inherently tied to the defensive reaction of human nature to change. "You are different and that causes me discomfort and fear." This can be applied to more than just physical looks, as is stated above in OP's post. Hell, cavemen used to kill people with different color hair because it scared them.

"You are different and that causes me discomfort and fear."

That's not it at all. People form opinions of groups of other people based on life experiences. These experiences could be indirect, like how many parents think their kid will be molested by any unattractive man because this is enforced by the media. If there is a group that commits a high amount of crime, it is perfectly logical to form a negative opinion of them.

Using the word "racism" to also cover logical behavior takes away from the meaning; just like "raping with your eyes".

that's not logical at all. You're saying if black people commit crimes at a higher rate, it's okay to be generally racist towards them. You'd probably expect to be judged as an individual, but can't be bothered to extend that to other humans. Maybe it's more that poor people tend to commit more crime, and people of color tend to be poorer because, you know, they used to be property and not allowed to have money?

By 'logic' I think you just mean trying to think of ways to justify your outdated and oblivious ignorance

So, reddit users are more likely to be white males...

And white males are more likely to be pedophiles...

So you should stop arguing with that guy because he's clearly a pedophile and anyone who disagrees with me is just furthering the PC agenda.

No I was saying the opposite. Statistics can be misleading, and you should keep in mind when looking at them that they're a collection of individuals. You shouldn't think of people a certain way because you saw a poll about a group they belong to, just as you would hope that people see you as an individual as well rather than making assumptions.

I was making a joke, throwing their logic back at them.

whoops my bad! What's-his-name's law in action.

If there is a group that commits a high amount of crime, it is perfectly logical to form a negative opinion of them.

See, that's where I get frustrated with people that hold the opinion that you're espousing. It's such a simple thing, but even you're not doing what any logic minded person should do when given that bit of information. Basically, why don't you ask "why?"

Why do you just stop at "Blacks commit more crime."? Once you ask why, you start learning about economic status being the main indicator of someone being a criminal and the effects that Jim Crow had on the population and how their population feels the effects today, for example. Just saying "Blacks commit more crime" and stopping there basically shows you have a child-like understanding of this subject.

It's an incredibly dense subject and I suggest you take the time to learn. When I get home, I'll try and find some material if you're interested.

Where did you gain that knowledge?

"cavemen used to kill people with different color hair because it scared them."

Well, as a redhead it's an odd fact that we were burned at the stake in Egypt and ostracized almost everywhere else. People are quick to judge on appearance alone when they're not educated enough to know better

maybe it is because artificial red hair makes people look like degenerates, now kill yourself libtard

I won't be killing myself, sorry to disappoint you random guy. Whatever your ideals I hope you have a fulfilled life and don't end up killing yourself from the lack of genuine human interaction and love that comes with that attitude random guy

The kids of these kids are what will truly scare me,.Especially as a Christian father raising two toddlers.

Similarly, as an atheist, Christians truly scare me. Like when our president says Americans worship God. I guess he thinks I'm not American.

💩

Yeah, it's totally Christians you should be worried about. They're the ones who want to chop your head off and rape your sister.

Don't have a sister and I'm not worried about anyone of a particular faith chopping off my head.

Okay your mother then -- you know what I meant. I don't know why people like you have to act so hard headed.

When the Islamic invasion happens lets see whose trying to kill you and who is offering you a helping hand.

I don't know why people like you have to act so hard headed.

This, coming from the guy trying to claim someone is trying to decapitate me and rape my family.

Do Islamic extremists not want to do that?

no. I don't think any Islamic extremists know I exist.

True. But I don't mean you specifically. Im talking about the fate of the west in general.

In that case... Answer is still no.

i didnt attack atheism, so why the thinly veiled attack on my faith?

What was even the point of bringing up your faith again?

Because the degeneracy of society concerns me in a world where its commonplace that 9-10 year old girls look up to nickie minaj and know all the lyrics to anaconda, have seen the videos, etc...you must not have young children.

You must not know anything about me, but I still don't see how your faith has anything to do with what you consider degeneracy.

It wasn't too long ago that blacks and whites dating was considered degeneracy (or communism). I do, however, remember knowing all the lyrics to Sir Mix-a-lot's "Baby Got Back" when it came out in the 80s when I was attending Catholic grade school.

So I guess kids today knowing the lyrics to a remake of a song that kids knew the lyrics of 25 years ago doesn't really seem all that different.

they all know the video(anaconda-watch it this isnt sir mixalot type shit), dance to stuff like juju on that beat at 10 years old. you have no idea what youre talking about. i worked as a bouncer at wvu couple years ago for two straight years i know "dengenracy" when I see it, and music is absolutely a tool in the arsenal.

Tell me more about your bouncer days at WVU.

the hookup culture on D-1 campus' is unreal these days and youd have to be right in the grit and grime every night all night and see it first hand to really understand how bad its gotten?

I'm curious as to what you're comparing it to, to understand how bad it has gotten.

hookup culture on D1 campuses has always been unreal. Don't kid yourself.

unless youve got the experience to backup the things youre attempting to discuss with me, you probably shouldnt bother. so unless youve spent extensive time consistently clubbing in a college environment in the past few years Im pretty sure you have no clue how bad its gotten.

so unless you spent extensive time consistently clubbing in a college environment longer than the past few years, I'm pretty sure you have no clue how bad it was, when folks didn't need tinder. Being in Greek life was Tinder before Tinder. Fuckin amateur.

lol, you had to pay to have friends back in the day even? bro, now i get why youre such a sad, angry, bitter man.

that tired joke? That's what I'd expect from WVU folks.

its not a joke. its clearly true in your case at least, which gives it at least a modicum of truth, eh?

clearly, you know nothing.

also I said I worked there, not that i was an alum.

Even worse

i know earning a living anyway one can is awful.

sorry i'm not sorry

Clearly lol

Right like marilyn monroe was any better or all those hendrix songs about doing heroin or how most 70s rock was about drugs and sex. Youre fuckin delusional man.

degeneracy of society

You misspelled bad parenting.

you really must not have kids/spend time around preteens much these days. Youd be shocked at how many are already brainwashed. hell my stepsisters school airs cnnkids from K-thru high school grades.

You're the brain washed one feeding them Christianity bullshit. You literally brought up your religion for no reason like it makes you the king of morals.

haha thats some crazy context interpretation youve got there. might wanna ease up on the shrooms.

Never done shrooms, but I don't need em to see past your ignorance. You should try them, maybe it will let you realize how ass backwards your logic is. Funny how you just happen to be against gay people.

then youre a poser with a username like that.

Because I want people to PM me pics of shrooms? Yeah I'm a poser. Keep brainwashing your kids into hating gays at a young age. You should also teach them your shitty grammar.

keep having sex with your sister and calling me the sick one.

Keep believing what I post on r/4chan is legitimate.

Talk about out of touch.

oh so you just joke about incest on a thread openly advocating for pedophilia you degenerate. and now you got called out.

care to explain this comment, btw? you racist on top of the sister thing?

It's a good album, but he's very spot on about it being "boo hoo I'm black" Why do a ton of famous people have to push their politics and narritive in everything? I don't wanna here how your life sucks because you're rich as fuck and happen to come out your mom's pussy black. She shouldn't have fucked a nigger.

...another comment from 4chan lmao

Dude I get it, you're like the definition of pathetic, and that's okay.

You're upset that I told you your religion and beliefs are idiotic and ass backwards... And now you're so butthurt you're pulling 4chan comments I made in a desperate attempt to ignore the fact that you are feeding your kids anti gay ideologies​.

You can't even stomach that literally every comment you posted has negative karma and that you're finally realizing you're in the minority.

Keep trying to pull from my comment history I have plenty more of fucked up 4chan comments, if you had the brain power to go to the sub and read for maybe more than 3 minutes then maybe you'd understand the sub.

The fact that you are a parent really worries me :( poor kids

karma? lmao, downvotes in this thread mean im catchin flak bc im close to the target. you called me sick, yet youre the racist, incestuous sick one. you have no merit, no defense after your posting history, and your entire defense is "i said that on 4chan so its okay". insult my children again. i dare you.

Bruh you really just don't understand the r/4chan rhetoric lol it's not difficult. That fact that you have to pull from my history to insult me (on r/4chan of all things) is pretty sad considering you're probably in your 30's with 2 kids. If you truly believe I even have a sister or that I'm some super KKK grand wizard than boy is the internet gonna be rough for you.

But hey at least your brainwashed kids will be as retarded as your dumb ass and hate gays so you have something to look forward to in life

dont backpedal because you got called out. 4 chan has always had a large pedo community so lets get real.

You forgot the /s

No sarcasm. Do you really think you're operating undetected on the dark web? Haha I can't wait for the day your ass gets hauled off to fed prison. It's coming, don't u worry ;)

I spead awarenesses so people can do it safetly. You really are still mad you lost the argument? Man you got issues

no, just looking forward to your pedo ass rotting in jail one day

Lol sure man you should learn how to lose an argument considering you lost like 5 of em with other people in this thread phahaha

care to explain this comment, btw? you racist on top of the you admitting to sleeping with your sister thing? "It's a good album, but he's very spot on about it being "boo hoo I'm black" Why do a ton of famous people have to push their politics and narritive in everything? I don't wanna here how your life sucks because you're rich as fuck and happen to come out your mom's pussy black. She shouldn't have fucked a nigger."

oh, also, Ill bring up my faith whenever I please; not ashamed of it.

Good on you man. There is a without a doubt an attack on Christianity in the west. You're not even supposed to talk about God because it might offend the poor wittle degenerate atheist's feelings.

Meanwhile they'll stick up for backwards ass Islam all day.

Liberalism is degeneracy.

I didnt even attack his faith in atheism, I was just stating that as a Christian father of two young daughters, Im trying to raise them in a Christian environment and its tough when ms cash me outside is twerkin on IG live at 13 years old for millions of viewers.

Well, degenerates like OP have no morals and genuinely see no problem with little girls twerking, smoking weed, looking up to famous sluts.

This is all part of the plan. The elites want to destroy our society by debasing and demoralizing everyone. OP is a good little sheep.

Like I said, just the act of mentioning you believe in Christianity is considered offensive to some people now. It's okay to be any other faith though.

it wasnt OP that was being ignorant for the record bro. it was that chiguy user and then a couple shills that have brigaded this topic.

I didn't mean OP as in the person who made this thread. I meant the user you were talking to, and no problem man.

When your daughters turn out to be lesbian atheists will you troll them? When they block you, will you finally admit to being homosexual yourself?

Leave the personal attacks on my kids out of it

You're the one attacking your homosexual children.

Seriously, when your daughters tell you they are homosexual, what will you do? Disown them? Didn't you ever consider that they could be homosexual? Is it possible that you are too?

Wait don't I know you? You're the guy with the kids. You left them in the car when you came to my house for weed. You let me suck your cock. I live in W.V.

reported.

Well I do suck alot of random cock but I think I remember your craigslist ad and your username was similar. What part of the country do you live in?

lmao, ok buddy. go to hell.

Why can't you answer the question about your daughters? What will you do if they turn out to homosexuals and/or atheists?

Removed. Rule 4.

Don't bring up your kids then lol

No the people who dislike Christianity are likely to dislike all religions... Especially Islam

Cool. Bring up your faith when it isn't relevant to the conversation. I'll bring up my atheism and how our President scares me when he says Americans believe in god.

you attacked my faith unprovoked, and yet youre the one whose "scared" of those who believe in God? okay bud.

Saying I am scared of what our President claims about Americans is somehow attacking your faith unprovoked? Okay, bud.

ooooooh so just the Christian God then...got it.

I never said I was scared of those who believe in God, Abrahamic-based or not.

clearly i dont why not explain it a bit more clearly?

I think you're the only one not getting it, so I'm not too worried if you don't understand.

no, please help me understand seriously.

ok

thats what i thought.

I'm glad you knew I wasn't going to waste time explaining what everyone else seems to understand.

well, there is noone "else" so not sure who you think is agreeing with you. i put no stock in votes, especially in a shill thread like this one.

What bluff?

especially in a shill thread like this one.

"People don't like that I'm a homophobe and trying to force my morals on everyone else so they must all be shills"

But the Christian god is also the Jewish and Muslim god.

Did u read what the guy I was responding to even said

Did you read any of what he said? And either way my point still stands.

Most Americans do believe in God. Do a google search.

Lucky for you though, most Americans don't actually follow the word of God and are actually giant degenerates brainwashed by Hollywood.

Most Americans do believe in God. Do a google search.

Not my point.

most Americans don't actually follow the word of God and are actually giant degenerates brainwashed by Hollywood.

But let me guess: You're not one of them.

I'm not perfect, but no I'm not like most people in the USA. I think degeneracy is weakening and ruining our once strong country and it makes me sick to my stomach. Especially considering it's all part of the elites plan and the sheep keep falling for it.

When they normalize pedophilia next, the "Christians" will say "oh God doesn't judge anyone, if you want to sleep with little boys you have every right".

When they normalize [insert boogey man] next

on a separate note, I think America is great. My dad, a white male, was able to start a company and live the American dream. My dad-in-law came from India, started a company and lives the American dream. I love talking to my immigrant in-law family. They all love America as much as I do and love how strong America is and love how she gave them all opportunities to start companies.

So my point being is that you think America is weakening and ruining and I think America is strong and vibrant and I don't think we're gunna get past that.

The slippery slope is real and it keeps being proven every time the mainstream media starts trying to normalize a new brand of filth.

Why does my 7-year-old need to be taught about gay sex, homosexual couples, trans people, etc? You know, a group of people who make up about 1% of humans? This is what they teach in (((public school))) now.

lmao off indeed. Thanks for the laugh.

OMG the scary christians may get you! The most violent religion. Be careful, they can tell you are an atheist by your fedora.

Good thing I don't have one!

well now i know you are lying.

Guess you don't know much.

Haha yup, that website is full of dumb fuck liberals repeating propaganda on a hourly basis 24/7.

just tell them it's racist to say white people can't experience racism.

that must be really tough on you and the rest of the SS. how could we be so blind? It's too bad we destroyed the nazis you surely admire before they could stop the 'white genocide'. which totally exists. and doesn't make you sound like a lunatic.

Let's not forget that OP is not white. He's just really concerned about white genocide because... he loves white people? IDK

They literally said the definition of racism has changed.

It was so damn creepy!

I said no it has not. I read them the definition on google.

This conversation is getting downvoted. Must have offended someone. FYI downvoters I am so not white.

Lol it is okay!

If that is the world people are asking for, they cannot complain in 5 to 10 years ; )

They literally said the definition of racism has changed

Yeah, here's why the waters are muddied. Very often, people who discuss social issues should be saying "institutional racism" instead of "racism". White people can absolutely experience racism, but they're basically saying that white people can't experience institutional racism.

I think that an argument could be made that by passing laws to help other races get ahead, whites could inadvertently experience institutional racism. That's certainly something that I'd be wary of. For the most part, however, I don't think that whites deal with institutional racism.

I agree

I've been told that too, about white people. It's scary stuff. Glad there's a teacher like you out there.

Thanks I did try to explain to them that I do understand where they are coming from, but that it is unfair to deny my experiences because I am white.

A teacher being anti-PC ? Must be a fake teacher. /s

Lol youd be surprised.

It's bullshit. As a white person, I can barely utter the words 'black person' in public without feeling more than a little conspicuous. Yet 'white person' is bandied with abandon it seems, and worse.

Many of the comments here are showing just how bad it's gotten. I would bet most of the pro PC comments are from young people who don't really understand the social engineering that's occurring. Divide and conquer is the plan, and although PC culture speaks about inclusiveness and tolerance, it's actually extremely divisive

Yes unfortunately that is likely the case. Forgive them, for they know not what they do.

It's scary because for things like Islamophobia, why would you not feel some form of fear considering how it has effected the places it is, with human rights violations and stuff. To deny criticism of it or any idea that truly deserves to be criticized, is tyranny of thought.

Since they control almost all banks

Who exactly are we talking about? Communists or Zionists?

Just double checking

OP left it vague so people reading it will assume they're referring to whatever "they" they consider the enemy.

I'm from Venezuela

Where abouts in Venzuela?

Moscow

If you have any idea that isn't part of PC culture then it gives people the perfect excuse to ridicule you

Wait, you are against PC culture, but you are implying it's not ok for others to ridicule you?

I think he was implying it was not okay to ridicule others based on self imposed rules of who is "good" and who is "bad" based on thoughts or ideals. I could be wrong though.

No sense engaging this guy. Just look at his posting history. He also goes by erhmantrautwetwork

What's wrong with my history, and no, I'm not that other user.

yes, you admitted it to me a few days ago. same posting style and topics as well. youre a liar and only here to spread disinfo. im done though as im sure you have more than that one account.

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nice of you to deny it, yet somehow found the thread from 4 days ago with this account that you originally used your alt during discussion with me on. you just outed yourself again.

I just went through your comment history to see if you were trying to attack me in other threads after I saw you trying to say I'm some other user

and yet ive never attacked you once, only called you out when my bs detector is going off. but ive never once been uncouth.

Maybe attacking is the wrong word for saying that you are accusing me of using different alts on here

Yeah, I've got this guy labeled as a shill. They're always sliding topics.

this entire topic is full of forum sliders they were doing it all night, i was up super late last night. thanks for the support.

You can always tell because they can't entertain any idea outside their programming, because to them you have to accept ideas to entertain ideas. It's really binary thinking. Then they have to humilate and demean those who pontificate any musings they don't like.

+1 for pontificate lol. Anyway though you're 100% right don't know why I waste my time arguing sometimes.

You guys should feel humiliated. You're an enbarrassment to anyone who has even half a brain. Now you guys are just sulking and whining to each other about being losers. Go get a room ffs

I was up real late, got attacked by a few shills/trolls and they were clearly just following the playbook of Insult, distract, slide, etc. Some have crossed the line today tho by attacking my children. Breaks the shit talking odd.say whatever you want to and about me, but leave the kids and wife out of it

Attacked! lol. You don't have a wife or kids right? Your daughters might be homosexuals. How will you deal with that?

pathetic

Isn't it? The guy wants to talk about his daughters then avoid it when we ask how he will deal with them if they turn out to be "degenerates". Truly pathetic. Unless you're reffering to your attempt at making a point. If you're talking about me, then try to use more words if you aren't a vegetable. Timmy!

Am I a shill? And if so, for who? Why isn't it ok to ask questions about your children? Why are you unable to block me?

I'm not some snowflake that blocks people I don't agree with, but you talking about my children(which was only referenced in passing in relation to my original post regarding being worried for their futures) is totally uncalled for and you only say this shit BC you're hiding behind a computer screen

Well you told me to go to hell (as if that were an actual place) so I figured you're unhappy with what Im daying. Why is it uncalled for to bring up your kids (as if we know or care who they are) You have a problem with people you call degenetates. What if your daughters turn out to be degenerates? Did you choose to be heterosexual and if so, why? Or were you born that way? Your daughters could be gay. Or is that something they can choose? Do you realize that is totally possible? How old are they? Do you have any gay friends? What if they aren't gay but end up liking black guys? Or are they never going to grow up because you're an unrealistic father. Does your wife know you spend all day and night on reddit? Why aren't you with your daughters right now? I honestly don't think you are in your moms basement. I would ask the same thing to your face if you are accusing me if not stating my views in public. I always tease new dads I meet and ask them if there's any sign if them being gay yet. Are you gay?

"People disagreed with me when I complained that I couldn't be an asshole to gay people minding their own business, they must be trolls and shills"

Jesus this is stupid.

Was I breaking some reddit rule by talking about your kids? Maybe this place isn't for you if you feel it's uncalled for. Is your mom off limits? Is she hot?

Yeah I have no idea what's going on man.

Removed. Rule 10.

Isn't that being PC in itself?

No, the whole point of the term 'politically correct' rather than 'correct' is that its obfuscating the truth for what is deemed politically acceptable to say rather than what is true. PC culture is about suppressing any ideas that are not currently en vogue, strangely enough that is the same political, social, and moral stance that the mainstream media takes...

True liberalism is saying that nobody should be ridiculed for a well reasoned opinion. Political correctness, the cancer on the nutsack of actual liberalism, say that any idea that the collective and engineered 'we' doesn't agree with should be ridiculed.

Can you give an example? The

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzA4dCT4X0I

You mean the video that blew up and went viral with people unhappy at the woman's reaction and the massive outpouring of support for the guy?

That's terrible evidence.

That's not PC. That's a fucking crazy woman that is looking for any excuse to be outraged and needs to be locked up

Right, getting offended then asking a group of people to persecute someone over being outraged is not PC. She clearly was so into being equal rights for females that she is willing to ostracize a man in public and call him out and say he doesn't represent her "race", or to use her words, colored people. That he didn't represent the struggle her people face. Fuck off, really. It is a prime example of someone taking PC culture too far.

Totally agree with you there. They have perverted the idea of equality and turned it in to discrimination at its extremes.

You're saying that the idea of equality held by "SJWs" is more extreme in its discrimination than slavery? or separate drinking fountains? But no, this is the extreme, where you might get called out on using a slur...

You guys have no sense of historical or cultural context, but good luck with those pizzagate investigations! Keep agreeing with the SS officer OP who writes about jews taking over the world.

They're kids. It's the best I can figure. They're not dumb, but inexperienced and uneducated with poor writing skills. When they try to write well... it comes off as an 8th grade social studies essay.

They seem to be really, really mad that their mom overheard them saying the n-word during a League match and now they can't play.

Either that or a bunch of grown men and women have turned the concept of "don't be a fucking dick to people who are different than you" into some global communist conspiracy, lol. Yes, we don't want you using racial slurs or screaming 'cunt faggot' because we want to control your thoughts and enslave you. That must be it.

They have perverted the idea of equality

radical feminism also, the concept that it is correct and sane to allow women in front line combat is beyond insanity.

Uhmmm, why exactly?

I was ranting to my mom about how ridiculous cultural appropriation is the other night and she pointed out that it's an obvious manipulation to isolate white people and make them too afraid to explore other cultures. It makes perfect sense, accusing white people of privilege all the time and racism if they celebrate holidays from other countries, it's the perfect way to make sure we stay in our little white bubble.

Classic case of right wing pussyitis. They bitch about liberals wanting safe spaces when they really just want a safe space of their own where they can be free to be racist or homophobic pieces of garbage without being put in their place as the trash they are.

Bullshit. Party and family loyalty do.

You're a typical FAGAtt. How's that for PC?

Who do you think you are to "put people in their place"? Who died and made you emperor?

Do you need a safe space? Did their post hurt your feelings? You seem to be suggesting that /u/LastAXEL should be deprived of his right to speak freely.

What did he mean by "put someone in his place"? Does he mean like putting on a balaclava and maceing a woman who wears a hat that makes her look like a Trump supporter?

Safe spaces don't exist, you can be tortured remotely in your own home via satellite. I just understand that if you use FORCE against people who disagree with you, you better know the laws of Physics that apply to society too: for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Antifa is driving reasonable people into the arms of the KKK. Muslim rapists and their apologists are creating a reactive force that will make Hitler look like a pussy.

And it's all by design, as shown in this Government document:

www.stopthecrime.net/COMM%2012%20BRIEFING001%20(1).pdf

And here's the hyperbole. He doesn't like people treating gay people like shit because they're gay and now you're equating that with

Muslim rapists and their apologists are creating a reactive force that will make Hitler look like a pussy.

It's disappointing that I even have to point out how insane this bullshit is.

"How dare you think we should treat people like humans, you're worse than hitler!"

"How dare you think we should treat people like humans, you're worse than hitler!"

Did I say that though? I said they're creating something worse than hitler. Looks like you wandered off from r/politics. Go back there bro, this forum is for discussing conspiracies to create race war, not for people to use "equality" as an excuse to bully people.

not for people to use "equality" as an excuse to bully people.

So you're feeling bullied because I said we should treat people like humans?

I don't feel bullied but words like "pussyitis" "garbage" and phrases like "put in their place" indicate a bullying mentality.

See the reason why I know you're from r/politics or sharia blue or whatever is you totally missed the link to the nazis from Operation paperclip engineering a race war and instead are trying to bait me lol

Yeah I'm not engaging that nonsense. I see you decided to go with the shill accusation because someone disagreed with you.

So someone on r/conspiracy creates a new account, does concern trolling about homophobia, calls Operation paperclip nonsense, and is upset that someone thins they're not genuine. hmmmmmm....

I'm not upset at all, I just wanted to point it out for the future when your post just reads [deleted].

Why would it be deleted? Seriously, what's your game? Are you trying to start conflict? Maybe you want to create the impression r/conspiracy is homophobic so it gets banned? Why create a new account for concern trolling r/conspiracy?

Rule 10

I've had multiple people tell me to kill myself in this thread and the mods have done fuck all about the reports.

calls Operation paperclip nonsense,

thats history revisionism without research or common sense or actual history.

"I wish I could bully people with all my best words. Liberals are bullying me by not letting me bully people. What a bunch of safe-space snowflakes but also ruthless commies!"

"That's not a very mature position to take."

"SHILL THIS SHILL IS BULLYING ME."

I don't have much to add. But damn these guys sure do get mad over basic courtesy, haha. Isn't a mannered society the foundation of conservatism?

Who elected you to put everyone in their place?

Gladly do it for free.

On what authority? Who is backing you?

The right wing says it's against political correctness, but what they really want is the ability to say what they think without being ridiculed by other people. When people call you a fucking moron for using racial slurs, or fire you, or just don't want to to be friends with you... That's not an infringement of free speech, that's the literal definition of free speech.

When PC culture tells me that I am forced to label a mentally ill transsexual as a male or female, that is the definition of censorship.

But continue thinking to yourself that PC culture is totally American.

Well I'm not American. So there is that.

But you are allowed to say that transsexuality is a mental illness. Nobody is coming to arrest you see? You literally said it and that's fine. Now granted, I'm assuming you don't have the medical qualifications to make that diagnosis, so you are making it based on your "feelings". But still, you aren't arrested, and are allowed to have that opinion. See how you still haven't been arrested.

What you cannot expect though, is that people can't treat you differently because of these thoughts and feelings. They can hate you, think you are a wanker, idiot, fool, or even downvote you. You don't get protection from that.

Oh trust me, Democrats would make it illegal just like in the UK and Canada. If you call someone by a different gender you are arrested. A reality America was facing with a Hillary presidency.

"The definition of censorship" hoooooo leeeeee shitttttt

You just called transexuals mentally ill. no one is going to arrest or fine you. People at the very worst will call you a bigot, a moron or perhaps say you are mentally ill, which seems fair enough. Don't dish out what you can't take.

In the UK and Canada you can be arrested for calling someone by a different gender. A reality America was facing with a Hillary presidency. Democrats love censoring free speech in the name of social justice.

Damn shills are in full force tonight

Freedom is a bit different from censorship.

This is not about right or left.

It's a fallacy to think that banning words and facts is a cure for hostility. It's a vast overreach. Being anti-PC doesn't make you a bigot or whatever. I cannot stress enough that this is a logical fallacy.

Maybe you're just using "pc" to describe something else entirely?

Like racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. T_D are just mad that it's not socially acceptable to be a scumbag.

racism = well yes white people are on average smarter than black people.. it is not a belief it is a fact.

sexism = yes females tend to prefer being in supportive roles, not domineering ones

homophobia = yes homosexuality is a mental disorder and worthy of condemnation, it is just another precursor for an even more depraved form of society wherein the broader population sympathises with pedophiles.

ok now slit your throat you ugly little liberal swine

I'm not familiar with this fallacy, which one are you referring to?

False equivalence and it's fairly deeply camouflaged.

I'm not understanding what you're calling false equivalence

Equivocating hostility with a word on the banned list. So let's take the word nigger since we apparently still have freedom speech. It's certainly one of the most taboo words we have today and is viewed as offensive and rascist. Yet when a black person calls his friend 'my nigger' he's using it as term of endearment or he may just use the word as a neutral term for a guy. No-one would accuse him of racism. So why is it that I am breaking a PC taboo to even talk about the word? False equivalence. Because hostility is an attitude, a certain body language, an emotional state and it doesn't dissappear just because some word or other was not uttered.

So to equivocally label a word as offensive cannot be supported with logic. Cuz logic is the shit don't you know?

False equivalence is because that an instance of one thing is similar to an instance of another, when notable differences are present, that the same conclusion should apply to both. Your use of false equivalence is not only incorrect, it inadvertently relies on the fallacy of false equivalence by claiming race of the speaker had no bearing on the connotative use of a racially charged word.

Yes false equivalence. You're claiming that a word is the same as the emotion behind the word. You're claiming the instance of the word as the emotion. I just proved it to you I E context is everything.

Now you're being racist. You're saying that the color of my skin determines what words I'm allowed to say.

There's really nothing more to say to you, you're just biased person who hates white people. And I have twice proven that you're wrong, you've lost I'm sorry goodbye go away.

lol I tried to engage respectfully and this is the response. Really sad, I thought I had an intelligent respectful opponent for once. My mistake.

But since you seem to be taking this so personally let me continue to see if you just can't help yourself and continue thrashing around:

-- I don't know the color of your skin. I didn't claim to. I really don't care. I don't know why you think I care so much, but you sure sound sensitive about it.

-- I didn't claim you weren't allowed to say anything, you carried that baggage to the party all on your own. You can choose to be offensive all you want as far as I'm concerned. But as happens in life, I can't promise it won't be noticed. Sound unfair? I'm sorry. Sounds rough man.

-- I never claimed that the hostility behind a word and the word itself are the same thing. I did claim that a racially charged connotation can be magnified by the person who says it in the minds of others depending on who says it.

Alright. Pissing contest over. Your blood pumping? Sorry, think of it as wrestling maybe, that's what I do. Here's some anecdotal stuff I just feel like sharing. If you want to continue respectfully feel free. If not, and still wanna keep punching and thrashing back, i can't stop you but I probably won't reply.

Begin non-combative anecdotal discussion if you're in the mood:

I'm a Jew. When I say "I'm a Jew" that has no negative connotations because historically Jews call each other Jews positively. If my dad calls me a Jew I'm not offended. Same for my Jewish friends. But if a non Jew tells me "You're a Jew" that won't necessarily offend me, but it will give me pause. What did he mean? Non Jews have been known to use the term Jew itself in a derogatory way, something I've personally experienced. Am I crazy for this line of thinking? Wouldn't it be crazy not to ask the question, particularly if I don't know the person very well and have heard the term used aggressively before towards me and know the same has been done to my ancestors?

The historical use of word is tied to not only definition but also connotation.

In the case of the word Jew the connotation is undeniably dependent on who uses it, just not to a tremendous degree because in recent memory the primary historically negative use of the word was mostly limited to one European countries during a particularly rough decade where it got a little confused and a lot aggro. Should Jews get over it? Should we just completely wipe the slate clean? Not completely, but over time we're getting there. Maybe in not to long everyone can call each other Jews casually and know it's being received admirably.

In the case of the N word, however were not talking some other country in Europe. We're also not talking about a decade or two. We're talking about 300 years in America. Generation after generation. I don't need to go on, you get my point. It's simply not reasonable to expect a group of people to forget something like that so fast.

Should Jews get over it? Should we just completely wipe the slate clean? Not completely, but over time we're getting there. Maybe in not to long everyone can call each other Jews casually and know it's being received admirably. Similarly, in time, maybe the N word will lose its meaning. But these things take not years but generations, centuries to heal. If that's too long for you and it's really a big bother I'm not sure what to tell you other than... I'm sorry you feel that way.

Ah well my grandparents fled Poland during the war. My grandfather is Jewish (or maybe was).

I'm merely criticizing the logical basis for political correctness. It's not aimed at you per se. So it's a simple matter that if the foundations for your position are not solid, you're not going to have a desireable outcome. Banning language is nothing but a lite version of book burning in spirit and it's highly divisive.

I am not Jewish enough to identify that way but I definitely see something familiar in other Jewish people: a deep seated insecurity, covered over by hyper-intelectualism and a tendency to over-identify with one's perceived misfortune. In a certain perverse way, that you can probably understand, I celebrate all this.

The pain that you speak of is that I was once a progressive leftist but I now understand how accurate much of the criticism really is. As Morgan Freeman pointed out, if you want to heal racism then stop talking about it. Nobody is served by cultivating a victim mentality. It's tough to hear this when you assume the progressive agenda is right just because it is well meaning. I'm much more of a cynical anarchist with odd libertarian leanings. I just can't see any future in any sort of interventionalism. There is a certain sadistic quality to radically uprooting your politics and realizing that your enemies actually do have a couple of very real points.

But really it works out better in the long run. People are too quick to join a variety of cults because they feel weak facing the world alone. However, embracing your own courage and doing things on your own terms is the only way to start identifying with humanity as it is, not as other. You are not really Jewish, you're really a human being (if that). You're not as exotic as some people, even other Jews would have you to believe. I'm not suggesting to dishonor your ancestry, on the contrary. But it doesn't affect your humanity one way or another.

If this is going in a kind of spiritual direction that's entirely my intention.

Now there's the reply I was I hoping for. I think the thing you and I most agree on is the inherent decency with which we should treat each other. Ironically, how we extrapolate the means to that end is where we differ, as so often is the case.

Glad we reconcile friend.

No safe space for you. Safe space for me.

WTF's a "safe space"?

A safe space

segregation based on skin color ethnicity and belief system.
Ea creating your own satisfying bubble and not come into contact with those who think or are different

lol and what purpose does such a thing serve BUT to alienate people?

crazy

do not ask me.
First the black people fight segregation and black / white only places.
Now there fighting for there own black only safe spaces.

Yeah the irony of brainwashed African Americans arguing in favor of the segregation MLK fought so hard against. So many are lost and confused these days it's sad.

segregation is good

it stops the blood from being diluted...

however, no race mixing means that they will still be dark enough for people to justify a race war.

/r/Conservative

Conservative forums apply the principle that results from this complaint against PC culture, selective censorship of ideas they don't agree with. They want an imbalanced relationship with other groups. They want to feel safe and respected while they make others feel unsafe and disrespected.

Tough, why are so many bullies cowards?

You are like word-twister champion of this sub, and you always hate everything here, yet you only hang out here, which is all really weird.

Yeah, they're always derailing topics and have massive upvotes. Totally legit conspiracist theorist.

jesus christ... if this isn't proof of OP's claim.

How so?

Lmao and this comment is magically at 51 upvotes since 3 am. I'd love to know who these magical upvotes are coming from, and how you could time to earn more karma a DAY than my entire comment history going back months.

People agree with him and don't agree with you. Stop posting stupid shit and you'd probably get more upvotes, it's really, really sad that you have to restort to shill accusations to justify why people disagree with you. So incredibly close-minded.

wow, such good advice mr. 6day old account that only post in r/conspiracy. Really roast my almonds

I can't refute anything you said so I'm going to try to smear you instead.

Why are you obsessed with me?

You're one of the heads of the snake.

Also not obsessed with you; you make it very easy to see through your charade and you're always posting in topics before me so I already see you're disinformation posts whenever I am browsing posts in new

you're disinformation posts

You've yet to say what disinformation I've been spreading.

And yes, I enjoy commenting in rising and new.

Stop distracting from the point while ignoring its actual meaning. The point is that it is a form of thought control to make people think and act within certain lines. If they are outside of that society will reject them or embarrass them into falling in line and people are even encouraged to do so. Someone not being PC isn't part of some movement to condition what others think they are allowed to do or think, they are just being themselves and acting how they see fit.

It's not about being offended by their "ridicule". It's about being alarmed that people are being pushed to only think a certain way through manufactured social construct. Thus there is no contradiction or hypocrisy.

They want a social safe place, where they can feel comfortable speaking their minds without repercussions so they can condemn other groups, seeking to remove their safe places, where they can feel comfortable speaking their minds without repercussions.

They don't understand that they are getting what they ask for in balance. They can speak their minds already. They just get condemned and have their social safe places removed for seeking to do the same.

They want to call people detestable things and marginalize them, without being called detestable things and being marginalized. It's a new high water mark for hypocrisy. They think people will agree with them more if they speak, but people do hear them occasionally and agree with them even less because of their hypocrisy.

I think he means that just being "un-pc" is grounds enough to be ridiculed rather than the actuall ideas or thoughts being ridiculed for their content.

For example: being called racist for not supporting one of Obama's policys. Rather than discussing/ debating why someone disagrees with the policy a person would pull the race card as a way to dismiss the idea entirely. Same with something that's not PC, it can just be dismissed/ ridiculed without actually being addressed.

I completely disagree. If it weren't for pc culture i wouldn't have such a great time being openly gay.

Question: am I allowed to openly disagree with you being openly gay?(in public) if the answer is anything but yes, you've proven the OPs point.

You are allowed to in a sense in that you have free speech. And others are allowed to ridicule you in kind.

trust me nothing anyone says to me will "ridicule" me. working around max security lvl inmates who threaten to rape and kill you and your family all the time will do that to you.

So convicted murderers and rapists don't bother you, but its homosexuals that you have a problem with?

says the guy who uses autistic as a slur.

It is incredibly sad that after going through my post history all you could come up with is the 'autistic screeching' thing that any self-aware person knows is just a meme. You on the other hand are part of a regressive generation that clings to bigotry like a life raft.

Oh I could've used much more

I'm sure you could.
That wouldn't be a very Christian thing to do though would it.

screw that i call ou degeneracy when I see it, im not some passive turn the other cheek christian thats for the birds. Im not going to stay silent while society degrades. but i wasnt wasting anymore time on your low effort posting either.

im not some passive turn the other cheek christian thats for the birds

You mean for Christ. What you really mean is you aren't a Christian, you're a bully who wants to act like he's got some moral superiority. You're an embarrassment to all good Christians and you should really hope there isn't a Christian god because he's not going to be happy about all this bullshit you're trying to pull in his name.

So you only follow the parts of the Bible you agree with?

Jesus said to take up your sword.

So you're essentially a radicalized zealot?

I'm a man with strong convictions that doesn't let sniveling little snakes like you attempt to walk over me or my faith.

How Christian of you

Absolutely.

So you're 30 and have daughters that are 10 and 13?

Mainly a troll. He doesn't think he's one. He just talks and doesn't attempt to answer questions that bother him. Instead of ignoring people he trolls them like he is right now.

What's with your obsession of pedophiles and "degenerates" ? That's starting to get weird dude. Are you a self hating pedophile and projecting on other people you can hate because it's too painful to live with? You sytated that you call out degenerates. Im calling you out as a phony self hating troll.

You also accuse people of having multiple accounts. Do you have multiple accounts? Why do you care if they do?

It's unlikely he agrees with their life choices.

choices

Is disagreement the same as ridicule? So much for civilized discussion.

If two people are happy in a relationship with each other that doesn't affect anyone else and you think you have the right to tell them they're wrong for it you aren't being civilized to begin with.

You're just mischaracterizing my position.

I believe all drugs should be legal, all of them. I believe that good quality heroin should be available to the public as well as stigma free treatment and recovery. Do I believe people should do heroin? Absolutely not.

I believe in sexual acceptance but I do think sexual degeneracy exists and is a problem. Sexual degeneracy is a bigger problem today than bigotry. I don't believe in public displays of sexuality and lewdness. Promiscuity is a proveably bad idea but I don't believe in sexual repression.

This all probably far to subtle for ham fisted lug such as yourself, but I can tell by your username that your making an effort.

I would never just unleash heroin on a repressive moralistic society because that's an explosive combination. Likewise I would never promote sexual degeneracy on an uptight sexually repressive society.

Jesus, what a mess of contradiction.

You're complaining that you can't disagree with two people being gay. Except no one is stopping you from disagreeing with two people being gay. What are you even complaining about? You just saw this as an opportunity to cry about gay people and decided you wanted in despite not understanding what this conversation was about in the first place.

Boy this is pyrric victory. Yeah sure I won, but it was like beating up child. I blame your username, it was misleading.

So clearly I was spot on in my last post, you refuse to even answer my question. It's sad that homophobes are so bent out of shape about what other people are doing, despite it having no effect on them at all. What a petty, authoritarian, small-minded way to live. I suppose some people are just happy being tools in the effort to divide and control people, instead of just letting everyone live the only life they have in a way that makes them happy and doesn't hurt anyone.

What do you do for a living?

So clearly I was spot on in my last post, you refuse to even answer my question.

And now we've moved on to thinly veiled shill accusations, what a wonderful person you are.

"What do you mean you don't want to share personal information online, must be a shill!"

We don't arrest members of the KKK, do we?

thats not what I asked. and I have no doubt the police would in fact be called in my hypothetical.

Do you have literally any evidence to back that claim up man jesus

Haha hell no. This guy is going around the whole thread, losing arguments, and then looking at their comment history to insult them.

Are you going to go to jail for disagreeing with someone's decision to be gay?

No? Then congratulations, you have free speech.

Are you potentially going to suffer a social backlash for disagreeing with someone's decision to be gay?

Maybe. That's how free speech works. You can say whatever you want to, but you are responsible for whatever dumb shit comes out of your mouth.

so when I ridicule two homosexuals holding hands in public, then thats them exercising free speech, and me making them responsible for the dumb shit they are doing in public, yes?

Holding hands is dumb shit?

What are you even trying to say here? You're upset because most of society doesn't like you being an asshole to two people who aren't doing anything to you at all?

nothing youve just said has anything to do with my response to you or my assertion that free speech only goes one way today.

So how many times have you been jailed for voicing your displeasure at gay people?

I already know the answer, it's never.

Which means the real problem is that you have no fucking clue what free speech is.

you have no clue who I am, what I know, or where ive been, done and seen, so thats a pretty arrogant statement to make, dont you think? I think youre ignorant to the PC culture that pervades American society. We will soon be like Germany where even questioning the holocaust gets you jailtime.

ou have no clue who I am, what I know, or where ive been, done and seen, so thats a pretty arrogant statement to make, dont you think?

So answer my question.

I think youre ignorant to the PC culture that pervades American society. We will soon be like Germany where even questioning the holocaust gets you jailtime.

Jesus christ the fearmongering is off the charts with you. I'm sure the president who made pc fearmongering a big part of his campaign can't wait to sign all those free-speech limiting laws passed by the republican held congress and upheld by the conservative leaning supreme court. Get a fucking grip. "Oh no some people said some dumb shit on the internet, I'm sure that means it's the end of all society as we know it, I can't even yell at gay people minding their own business in public anymore!"

I would never publicly ridicule people minding their own business like that.

Except that's exactly what you're complaining about not being able to do.

no, thats not what I was complaining about. I was presenting a hypothetical. I dont have a problem with gays, but I do with the gay agenda. I dont have a problem with other races, but I have issues with black lives matter, CAIR, the KKK, etc. I dont like agenda pushing, especially when one doesnt seem to have the freedom to speak against it without being called, anti semitical, racist, or what hve you. Why are you approaching me as if im some right wing the donald poster anyway?

no, thats not what I was complaining about

That's exactly what you were complaining about.

am I allowed to openly disagree with you being openly gay?(in public) if the answer is anything but yes, you've proven the OPs point.

You even went back to that

so when I ridicule two homosexuals holding hands in public, then thats them exercising free speech, and me making them responsible for the dumb shit they are doing in public, yes?

So this whole thing has been you complaining about not being able to be an asshole to gay people in public. That was the example you decided to use multiple times. Maybe you wouldn't actually do that, but that's what you are arguing you should be allowed to do without any societal implications.

You still haven't told me how many times you've been jailed for disagreeing with gay people. Surely you're not just trying to fear-monger...

done arguing with you. stop trying to put words in my mouth, if you dont understand what I was trying to get across by now, youre not worth the time.

So what are you saying, and why are you complaining about not being able to be a dick to gay people in public?

yep, thats what Im saying. Im complaining because I really used to love being a dick to gay people in public. you got me. I served as brothers in arms with gay dudes but yup, ya got me.

This is what people do when they realize they don't have an argument.

I asked point blank for your to tell me why you are complaining about your inability to give gay people shit in public since you used that example twice (and only that example) and instead you're just being sarcastic and backpedaling.

or im watching master of none and just cant be bothered with your bullshit anymore.

This is a really pathetic way of bitching out of an argument you were losing badly.

lmao, ok bud. dont know how ill be able to wake up and kiss my beautiful wife and babies tmw morning now.

You are such a Nancy boy.

oh, no doubt i definitely am. you got me.

That's you being a fucking asshole. "Christian" lmao.

PC doesn't have to be mandated by law, it is the systematic overhaul through public brainwashing of how people think and react to opinions they disagree with. It's the precise reason why when people like Jordan Peterson get so fed up that they have to rant about how important free speech is to society on a college campus that others swarm around him and shriek "You are perpetuating hate speech!" simply because he has a history of opinions they disagree with. That is PC culture and that is why it is so scary because it isn't mandated by law and can be obfuscated by simply saying, "You have free speech and so do I." But it isn't free when one side gangs up on the other to suppress theirs and refuses to listen and have civil discussion. It could also be called "tyranny of the majority", which is exactly what our Founding Fathers feared.

try suicide so worthless homosexual slurping swine doesn't propagate its degenerate genes throughout the remnants of civil society

I mean, i suppose you're allowed to, you shouldn't be charged unless you threaten someone physically

with such a sensible response like that, im afraid you might be an actual living breathing person :p

Yes, but you'll be open to criticism too.. there is no morally incorrect thing to attribute to being gay. But "disagreeing with gay lifestyle" smacks of discrimination which is morally reprehensible. (I disagree with your gay lifestyle so I won't hire you/marry you/let you live across the street from my children...)

I hope I'm coveying the difference because it's one thing "anti pc" folks don't seem to get (about people scorning them for being essentially hateful.)

it is not morally reprehensible to disagree with a homosexual lifestyle. your morals arent my morals. some will argue sex with 14-15 year olds would be morally ok, doesnt mean IM ok with it.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/3552291/police-called-to-lgbt-awards-after-caitlyn-jenner-becomes-victim-of-hate-crime/

a hate crime for saying caitlin whip your dick out.

‘Oi, Bruce, get your dk’ out. Then someone else threw something at her.**

So you're ok with people physically assaulting someone as long as you feel morally superior to those being attacked?

told you im finished engaging your BS. think what you want i couldnt care less.

"My BS" being pointing out your attempts to lie and fear monger because you want to be an asshole to gay people without people being an asshole to you.

lol. whatever you say. thanks for the laugh before bed.

Make sure you check under your bed for the gays before you turn in, they could be anywhere!!!!!

you dont even know how incredibly insulting and ignorant you are. I served side by side with brothers I knew were gay. both in the military and in state corrections. i couldnt have cared less what their sexuality was. youre a new account with nothing but ignorant crap to say to others, so i wouldnt be surprised if you had an agenda.

You come in here complaining about how you can't shit on gay people and get offended when people assume you want to shit on gay people.

i cant be held responsible for your idiotic and baseless assumptions based on my hypothetical free speech scenario.

It's 'hypothetical' now that your bigotry has been called out.

i called it hypothetical to begin with. you clearly have an agenda with your 4 day old account and trying to get as many posts as possible to muddy this page up and distract others.

You've made multiple posts here attacking gay and transgender lifestyles and calling them immoral. You are attempting to attack the age of this account because you know I'm right.

LMAO this is the same guy in this thread talking about being a Christian dad rasing two toddlers (this dude brought up his religion for no reason at all)... Talking about how the media is brainwashing kids ect...

You're fucking brainwashed! Open your eyes! Of course you're Christian AND against being openly gay. You're the one brainwashing your kids! You're the kind of people that hold back society.

Does everything need to be over the top PC? No, but fuck you have to be sick to be against gays

clearly you didnt get the context of my argument at all, and im not going to reiterate for the likes of someone who likes to pop off at the mouth and curse for no reason. IN THIS THREAD; FREE SPEECH IS ALIVE AND WELL, but I have to be sick to be against homosexuality. point proven. thank you and goodnight.

No shit you can voice your opinion and this is me voicing mine: you're sick in the head

lol ok. whatever you say man.

wait wait wait....you have SEX with your SISTER and youre calling me sick in the head lamoooooo yo your post history especially that 4 chan thread...oh my. hahahahahahah

Oh brother you're new here eh?

nope not even close, and that 4chan thread and your reply is sick

Are you taking a 4chan thread seriously? Wow, that's pretty naive.

I dig through post histories all the time, so I know whether someone is a shill or not.

If you don't dig, you are a dumb fuck.

whered you go? got real quiet all of a sudden you sick racist degenerate. I hope when the fbi catches up to your darknet buys they find your child porn stash too.

Biggest case of projecting in history. This man.

How so? I'm not the one that visits pedo boards on 4 chan and calls people niggers

Yes, you are.

You must have me confused with the dude I was arguing with

I wouldn't bother, that guy is nothing but a TPTB-loving ShareBlue shill.

Thanks for the heads up didn't know about that one

Everyone is brainwashed to an extent. Its not religion alone that causes it.

Well... not really. If you recognize that we all have biases and you're able to recognize and correct cognitive dissonance, in an intellectually honest way, then you could work through being "brainwashed" if you really were. All of us are prone to confirmation bias too, it's not something that Liberals or Conservatives exclusively experience, for example.

What I'm getting at is that through introspection and... just being honest with yourself and, most importantly, being consistent in your beliefs, then you can keep yourself in an intellectually honest place. You won't always be successful immediately, but if you try to keep yourself honest then you'll eventually come around. I believe that it's inevitable.

For example; Wanting to use your free speech to openly criticize someone's lifestyle while complaining/disliking/(wanting others to be unable to critique) about the social backlash of others using their free speech to critique the original criticism shows an inconsistent/hypocritical belief in free speech.

Then there's the issue of using physical violence in response to someone exercising their right to free speech. There are some who would enthusiastically agree with my first example yet they cheered "bash the fascist (they also didn't recognize irony)" as Richard Spencer (I think that was his name) was sucker punched and assaulted. He holds some pretty disgusting ideas, but if you really believe in the idea of free speech then you should decry the act of violence perpetrated against him.

It seems like people just want to be assholes to other people who do something or espouse ideals that they disagree with. I know that I'm certainly guilty of this. This turned into a bit of a jumbled mess as it's difficult for me to convey my thoughts about this. It could be my lack of education in cognitive sciences, definitely. I suppose I could've been less verbose and just said "remember the Golden Rule", but I hope it made a little sense.

I don't agree with Gay Marriage, am I a bigot?

I don't give a fuck if you agree or not. You don't matter to me.

Do you think i have a right to visit a same-sex spouse who is dying in a hospital? Or is that a straight privilege ?

Hey, i noticed your history seems to put gay rights and 2nd amendment on opposing sides. Do you literally not know any gay people who own guns?

????

You told a person that if they support 2a you could support gay rights as if theyre on opposite sides. I stalked comments tbh

I do agree with gay rights but don't think people are aware enough of the Natural Law argument against gay marriage (which has nothing to do gay people being bad or immoral).

It's basically narcissism and sociopathy played out on a massive public scale. Read about how those personality disorders play out in romantic and familial relationships, there's the same dynamics. Sociopaths in movies are portrayed as Charles Manson or Patrick Batemen, but the more typical realistic picture is psychotic, abusive parents and boyfriends/girlfriends-from-hell. Manipulating and exploiting people through subtly indirect means: guilt, blame, and shame. Gas-lighting, disingenuous inconsistent hypocritical standards and reasoning.

Watch out, I can't give a source, but I've heard Trump is feeding a backlash, he'll be used as an excuse to justify a wave of Soros-funded wave of "feminist" politicians that'll usher in more authoritarianism, that you won't be allowed to disagree with because "my soggy knees".

It's just like dealing with stereotypical in-laws, greek grandmothers, etc.: "Eat everything I put on your plate or else you are ungrateful and bad!" Note that this kind of narcissism is simply a shade of sociopathy, not much different.

Tulsi?

How fucking full of shit are you? We have an actual authoritarian in office firing the director of the FBI and ranting against the first amendment and you are more worried about a hypothetical authoritarian backlash against him? Jesus fucking christ you guys are brainwashed as fuck.

The last time we had an uptick in Political Correctness, what else was going on at the same time? Occupy Wall Street. And in that case, the PC Police were used as pawns of the establishment to neutralize and disperse the activism from within. I think that Political Correctness is actually even more insidious than the OP thinks. They're infiltrators for the Bourgeois class who force their way into Radleft spaces and impose their consumerist, neoliberal/neocon nonsense on us.

No, that doesn't excuse what Trump is doing, but I think I may actually prefer his brand of incompetent, bumbling, obvious evil to the actually rather competent, subtle evil of the Third Way democrats.

Read comprehension FAIL. I am not pro-Trump and I said absolutely ZERO pro-Trump things. STOP being a reactionary fool. All I said was about encouraging people to research sociopathy and narcissism and the disingenuous rhetorical tricks they play.

Honestly, at this point after reading what these retards say.... I'm all on board the Soros authoritarian feminism train.

I'm all on board the Soros authoritarian feminism train.

You always were, don't lie.

You've been posting nothing but TPTB talking points since you suddenly decided, when ShareBlue got $40m to shill, that you wanted to post talking points here all the time.

lol you are why I always was. The ignorance, the retardation and the blame.

Thanks!

Yeah, it is pretty bad. If I can get paid...

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I agree. Have an upvote.

Thought Crimes

New Speak

It really seems like a passivity program, oh i don't wanna hurt your feelings, so please walk all over me

I agree. hopefully this fad dies before it starts a war.

This post is retarded. How's that for PC?

Quick-somebody call up the attorney general, this man said the R word!!!

In a free society you're allowed to criticize freely. In Communism, speech is censored due to hurt feelings.

So, basically what T_D does, and also the Trump apologists who can't handle any criticism.

Got it. Projection is such a delicate thing.

Would you believe me if I told you I identify as a Leninist and that T_D allows dissenting opinion? Haven't been banned yet and have had some interesting discussions about how Lenin used capitalism within his communist model (no collective farms, too wasteful).

The effectiveness of free markets combined with proper safety regulations is what we're all after, even some communists.

Have you tried talking with a Trump fan? They're usually friendly and willing to have a conversation.

Would you believe me if I told you I identify as a Leninist

Yeah, I'd believe it, you're a T_D poster. And hey, it's just like Bannon. Congrats.

and that T_D allows dissenting opinion?

That's not true.

The effectiveness of free markets combined with proper safety regulations is what we're all after, even some communists.

Not if you're a Bannon/Trump supporter. That's just revisionist bullshit.

Have you tried talking with a Trump fan? They're usually friendly and willing to have a conversation.

My entire family voted for him. Thanks for playing.

Bannon read Kapital and Lenin biographies? I think not. I'll upload a picture of my library if you're interested. One of my favorite novels, or instruction book rather, is Che's Guerrilla Warfare. If you enjoy survival tactics it's a must read.

I do not hide the fact that I'm a Leninist who accepts Republican points and other political ideologies such as native American tribalism.

T_D allows Bernie Bros, communist, Hillary fans, and even north Korean sympathizers. I've seen them all, the only rule they must follow is accepting Republican opinions as being credible and trustworthy. Anyone who discredits a person's opinion based on their political party should be banned from a civil political discussion because neither person would have anything to gain or find inside into their perspective.

You have no idea what you're talking about. T_D allows political disagreements as long as you stated that their point of view is valid. Which you refuse to do.

Maybe start talking with your family and understand their point of view instead of alienating yourself with grief.

Oh, I understand their views. They aren't T_D though. They have actual problems, and don't just act like a bunch of bratty teenagers, who can't handle even the slightest criticism.

I've been banned from that sub, for simply making a correction to a Breitbart article posted. I don't need to go back there.

There are millions of Trump voters who don't give a fuck about your supposed Leninist revisionist history, and who specifiaclly care about their manufacturing jobs, and healthcare. Of course, they were obviously misguided by Trump, and I feel bad for them.

But I couldn't give a fuck less about T_D and whatever it thinks of itself, as most of the people over there didn't give a flying fuck about this country in this first place.

T_D doesn't represent itself as a neutral political discussion forum. It's unapologetically a circle jerk and virtual Trump rally.

Would you accuse a church of silencing dissent for kicking people out who insisted on coming in and telling everyone their beliefs are bullshit and God isn't real?

Well thanks for backing up my assessment. I appreciate that.

Of course. You missed my point that a desire to not have people shit on the floor of your temple doesn't mean you want them to shit their pants, or that you can't handle the smell.

Just because a church doesn't allow people to come in and counter their message inside the walls of the church doesn't mean they can't defend their ideology.

Are you attempting to ironic by trying to create parallels between T_D and religion?

Not at all. Many members embrace Kekism, identify as Kekistani, and believe Pepe is a hypersigil that is the key to Meme Magic. Or at least they say they do.

Even disregarding that, the analogy stands. Just replace church with private club and the point remains the same.

Then thanks for the great screencaps, I guess.

Does r/the_Donald not represent themselves as some sort of free speech zone? Because they love mentioning how anti-free speech liberals are, so I just assumed they would be overwhelmingly for open discussion.

No, they don't and never have. It has always been a pro-Trump circlejerk and unabashedly so.

And their criticisms of liberals is borne out by the censorship of conservatives in r/politics, which presents itself as neutral but isn't.

You people are delusional cultists, absolutely incapable of comprehending hypocrisy or empathy.

I agree, this is an absolutely retarded notion that not being an asshole is a conspiracy by the elite. Conservatives are the biggest fucking snowflakes around who get offended by everything. They even cry over what bathroom people use. Who gives a fuck? Just fuck off and live your own conservative fantasy lives worshipping mind reading energy beings who live in other dimensions.

Communism brings violence? It's not like anyone has ever died under Capitalism right? Tell that to all of Latin America and the Middle East. The Elite are Conservatives running the banks and controlling the military industrial complex that keeps the world living in poverty. The elite are not left.

Amen! PC culture is thought control. Ever notice how PC culture (like a college campus) only grows in an environment of censorship? PC culture falls apart under an open critique so that is why free speech is such a danger to it.

Just a means for people to play at being the biggest victim and get special privileges over others (reverse favoritism, be it on race, sex or otherwise).

I'm against special treatment in general, preferring people to become the best they can be and treated on their own merits rather than be cast aside for the favor of others (even if such favor was to be in mine I felt it undermine the hard work and effort I put in to be where I am so far).

Some interesting further reading here.

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Lol. You would.

It would be easier to take your point seriously if your version "outside the box" thinking wasn't shit like "Hitler did the right thing" and "antisemitism is natural" and "the real enemy is the Jews".

The reason that people ridicule you and think you are scum is because you ARE scum, you neo-nazi fuck.

That's not "PC culture gone mad!!!!!", it's intelligent, decent people telling you that you are wrong. If you truly believe in the bullshit you're blurting, you'll suck it up and accept that.

After all, hey, you just want people to be able to disagree with each other freely, right?

Your one of those people who believe Republicans do all bad and Democrats are all good.

Grow up.

That person isn't making any claims about American political parties. He's saying that political correctness isn't the same thing as not saying shitty things about people.

Political correctness gets abused, and it's proponents do use it to stifle speech. However, as a society, it is not advantageous for people to walk around using racial slurs to attack people and supporting genocide.

They're calling Americans neo Nazis for identify with political preference they disagree with. They're claiming that if you do not agree with them, then you are a racist Holocaust denier.

PC culture has turned political conversations into shit throwing arguments. Democrats go insane when Republicans simply call out their ignorance of other political ideologies.

They're modern day communist who want to censor political discussions. Republicans are not all racist and anti Holocaust, just like not all Democrats follow PC culture.

He didn't say anything about Americans. He called the original poster a neo-Nazi, which I agree was likely too far.

But it's probably also too far to call PC supporters Communists. Stalinist Russia was responsible for the murder and incarceration of millions of people. I don't know that the PC folks have quite reached that mark yet.

Lenin used PC culture tactics and he didn't kill anyone.

Just a reminder.

And the Nazis supported the working class and stoked racial fears in the populace. We can make comparisons of current American politics all day long. Republicans are Nazis and Democrats are Stalinists.

That's easy to do. But I would argue that American politics are unique and that there are many different cultural and technological influences on modern America so comparisons to 1940s political movements, while possible, is not useful. There's something greater at work here than can be covered by simply calling one part Nazis or the other party Communists. It's all smoke, friend.

OP's all over the place blaming the jews for everything and defending hitler as humanity's savior, calling them a neo-nazi is probably pretty spot on.

I didn't check into his post history. If that's the case, then the guy I replied about was right, and calling OP a Neo-Nazi is fine.

I've been trying to argue something like this for a while. The racists and antisemites love the anti-PC movement because it gives them reasonable arguments to support their racism. It's frustrating. When I try to call those people out for blatantly racist statements, they revert to calling their positions "anti-PC" or "anti-identitarian" or some other remarketed bullshit.

I will see people say shit like "blacks are intellectually inferior to whites." When I say that's fucking racist, they call me a shill or a Communist or a PC Fascist or say I'm indoctrinated. These people are so fucking dense. And I worry that this belligerent racist mindset is spreading widely and quickly.

I did not pull that first paragraph out of my butt:

• "Hitler exposing them (Jews) for their true nature was one of humanity's last chances"
• "Antisemitism is natural"
• The MSM hides the White Genocide (oh look, that's THIS POST)
• Jews are the masterminds behind re-educating everyone
• "from what I've seen the only thing that might wake people up against the Jewish problem might be a huge crisis."
• Hitler wasn't all bad, he had Jewish friends!

My post was not some knee-jerk US politics over-reaction. I called him a neo-nazi fuck because he's a neo-nazi fuck.

Honestly, the word Nazi is used so often is tough to distinguish between true neo Nazis and someone calling a Republican a Nazi.

You're right, lots of people like to use the word "Nazi" for people they don't like. I think it makes it easier for actual neo-Nazis to slip under the radar. If I hadn't seen the guy's history I probably would have reacted the same way as you did.

Hitler's National Socialists, aka Nationalsozialismus, aka Nazis, labelled whole groups of people as "sub-human" based only on their ethnicity or their disability or their religion or their sexuality, proclaimed that those "sub-human" groups were "holding humanity back" from being a "pure" homogeneous race and were "unworthy of life", and set out to destroy them. They slaughtered twelve million of people in pursuit of this perverse goal before they were stopped.

The idea that you can rank people in a hierarchy where some people are worth more than others is itself abhorrent. The Nazis took that idea to its worst possible conclusion. The reason the word "Nazi" is associated with absolute evil is because they were.

You know how actual National Socialism was different from the popular media depiction of it? Popular media tends to leave out the truly evil shit that was done by the Nazis. Makes it easier for the audiences to enjoy their movie.

I agree with you, political correctness is obscene, a degradation of humanity. It exists because the elite control the media, and they have used the media to condition the population of Western nations to accept a liberal fantasy narrative that we're all the same, and that if only we punish the evil white men everything will be fine in the world. It's a total lie, but because many people don't think for themselves, they accept it, and this allows political correctness, which is really liberal fascism, to thrive.

Slavery and Jim Crow...

Nah

"PC culture" isn't scary, it's just slaves being slaves. Same people work a 9-5 job and then sleep half the day, and go work a 9-5 job for 4 more days in a row. OF COURSE they will do socially normative tasks

We can sit here and complain about jews ruining everything, OR we can address the fact that these people let themselves become victims of jews

the novel 1984 describes some aspects of PC language, the reason and motive for it.

'newspeak' destroys peoples ability to talk about and think about uncomfortable subjects.

"Political Correctness" is really of Communist origin. It was originally used extensively by the Soviet Union propaganda offices while enforced by the NKVD.

It basically means every speech that's outside the communist party-line's approved narrative is getting shut down, violently if necessary.

If you dissect the word "Political" and "Correctness" you will realize that "Political" refers to the current doctrine approved by the ruling party.

"Correctness" just means that it follows the directive by the ruling party, without any deviation.

The WW2 Nazi's used a term called "Gleichschaltung", not to be confused with the technical term "phasing". It means that ALL media will only propagate one narrative approved by the Government.

You can see this happening in the USA today. All MSM is bascially the same voice.

The US. Government is successfully uniting Fascism and total Communism in one form.

I can't believe communism is winning in the US. Forestall and McArthy were both assassinated in that military hospital

Perhaps one day our States will realize McCarthy was right. Hopefully before it's too late.

McCarthy wasn't right. His witch hunts against suspected communists were against everything laid out in the First Amendment. He literally used fear to silence people

The idea that he was "right" involves believing that our Big Government should be able to slander and defame people for possible political leanings. You literally have to be a statist to think McCarthy was a good guy. He was another step towards establishing the Ministry of Truth

my favorite quote of the 20th century is Patton saying "we defeated the wrong enemy"

Hear me out on this, what if being "politically correct", means "don't be an asshole", it's simply talking about behaviours the the average person and voter would find reprehensible. But yeah, some people are jerks and feel the need to speed whatever nasty rhetoric they want.

Within 3 years my sister was completely corrupted by higher education, she now believes in open borders, global warming, multiculturalism and moral relativism...

Most shockingly of all, she believes that people with views contrary to her own should be removed from the university, whether that be students or professors.

Sorry, but global warming or anthropomorphic climate change, is very real. Come to the west if you don't' believe it, there is plenty of evidence.

I could take you into a million acres of Ponderosa Pine, which have been destroyed in just the last 20 years from the Rocky Mountin Pine Bettle. I can show you retreating glaciers, and temperature spikes that have never been recorded, not to mention carbon dating which backs up these global temp anomalies.

Maybe your sis dove head first into the other side of weird college stuff, but it sounds like she educated herself on climate change, and I would suggest most skeptics (I used to be one) go visit the world that is being impacted daily.

Climate changing isn't evidence of man-made causes.

If you believe it's real, you should advocate for the cessation of its study and the redirection of funding for clean energy R&D. Win/win whether you're right or wrong.

I mean, the science is settled, right?

There's no such thing as "settled science." That's just a term people who have biases throw around to dismiss the scientific method. Gravity is still being studied...

First off, I used to be a skeptic myself, but I live, work, and play in the Rocky Mountains, and what's happening here is no joke.

Are you saying that global pollution isn't a problem? Because global pollution is exactly what climate change is about. It's a big problem if you live in a valley-city in the west, or if you live in the west in general.

Lost snowpack, leads to less water overall, and since the Rocky mountains supply most of the drinking water in the west, it's actually a huge deal out here. Lost snowpack is due to rising temps (now multiple record breaking years in a row). Not to mention drought conditions, which have been amplifying for decades in the west. Of course all of this is available to read and learn about, but you have to be willing to drop the bias.

Many, many people advocate for clean energey R&D. My state leads the country in it. Doesn't mean that's a solution, as fracking operations still dot the landscape, contributing to poisoned water, and degradation of public lands.

https://www.nwf.org/Eco-Schools-USA/Become-an-Eco-School/Pathways/Climate-Change/Facts.aspx https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/climate-change-facts-versus-opinions/ https://catholicclimatemovement.global/climate-change-facts/

You said a lot and didn't answer the heart of my point.

I'm not denying climate is changing on local or macro levels. That happened throughout Earth's history before man existed, let alone the industrial revolution.

What I'm saying is that I remain unconvinced of human causes, and the severity of that contribution.

What percentage of climate change is attributable to man-made causes?

If it's clear that we're the cause, is it prudent to spend money on further research and modeling, or would it be wiser to immediately redirect that funding to clean energy R&D?

Don't you find it suspicious that the biggest proponents of the climate change alarmism stand to make huge profits from continued research and proposed solutions (carbon tax schemes), while simultaneously it would be unprofitable for them if that money were redirected to energy research?

The cause is very clear to 98% of the scientific community. It's also pretty basic in theory, that if you continue releasing toxins into the atmosphere, the planet will suffer. Same as a human suffers when inhaling carbon monoxide.

I find it much more suspicious that the opponents of climate change have come out saying why they oppose it, and do not care that they are lying to you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8ii9zGFDtc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJUA4cm0Rck

So let's agree to stop researching it and redirect the funds to clean energy research. As you said, 98% of scientists agree on it, so let's fix it.

Fixing it is no easy feat and its gonna require a hell of a lot more than one section of one country changing how they do things. Assuming it is man made( just for this example) then think of everything we would need to change. millions on millions of jobs would change and billions upon billions would be spent to change it.

All we need to do is reduce the price of clean energy below other forms and plant trees.

It doesn't matter if it thrives, it is unstable...

Culture is partly an expression of race.

Therefore, multiculturalism is portentous of the dilution of blood and the corruption of racial purity and one's cultural heritage!

Sorry to you left wing faggots here, but while the blacks in Africa were living in mud huts, the romans were building a civilization far far superior...

Africa still is and always will be a shit hole.

The IQ tests and the black failure to integrate show us this..

"oh but look at all those negros succeeding"

affirmative action = check

30-40+ percent European ancestry = check

lowering of standards = check

Sorry to you left wing faggots here, but while the blacks in Africa were living in mud huts, the romans were building a civilization far far superior...

"oh but look at all those negros succeeding"

LMAO, are you even a real poster? This has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

Ah there it is

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Zimbabwe

your're welcome.

oh yes, shit hole zimbabwe, built by the whites until they were expelled and it went to dog shit... oh and btw all African kingdoms have been proven to be built and maintained by whites...

The only instances this is the contrary is in instances of racial mixing.

Yeah you didn't click on that link did you

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I think your user name speaks volumes.

Maybe if you lowered yourself to talk with common folk you might see things more clearly.

That poor girl, she got an education. What has this world become

She learned about the environment, and being decent to colored peoples. What a fucking disgraces to america /s

FFS.

Is that what you are calling it 'colored people'? The same term as the 1940's?

What pc brainwashing institution taught you that?

I was mocking the person talking about multiculturalism. Which is basically a way of saying "i only care for white people"

'Multiculturalism' is a word that gets used multiple ways. This is probably why there is so much confusion surrounding it.

It can mean 'appreciating other cultures besides your own'.

But it can also mean 'tearing down any distinctives between cultures and pretending they don't exist.' Or, 'homogenizing people into one monoculture.'

I believe that was what the writer was objecting to was the second sense.

Because most people accept people from other cultures.

What some don't accept is the idea that all cultures must be merged into some kind of 'monoculture' whereby all cultural distinctives or uniqueness are washed away.

Other than the last bit about censorship, how are any of those are bad concepts to be embracing?

Yikes! I'm sorry to hear that. I had a friend who went to a historically extreme tiny liberal school in California. She came back completely wacko. I am a very open minded person who is willing to listen to and respect others opinions fully, even if I don't believe in/share the same opinions. But she was so PCed that she literally stopped making sense. It was shocking and scary.

I remember just one of the new opinions she came home with that lacked common sense was believing so much in Abortion she actually believed every woman should be made to have one, and that perhaps all babies should be aborted. I mean, try wrapping your head around that. -_-

The only "average voters" who find it reprehensible are those on the left.

The same ones who demand things like pandering to mental illness by calling trannies anything other than mentally ill.

Right on, fuck anyone with mental illness, and fuck everyone with physical disabilities while we are at it!!! /S

Nope. Telling me I can't say certain words because it enrages a certain group (which 99.4% of the time is upper-middle class millennials who have no little to no association with the word in question) does absolutely nothing except facilitate the process of turning humanity into indistinguishable insects who are not allowed to veer of the path of acceptable thought. This is their end goal. This is Cultural Marxism.

Are blacks or gays or whoever else the SJW flavor of the month is so fragile that they can't take hearing a word? That makes them sound pathetic. I would be incredibly insulted and embarassed if I were them and some bunch of entitled liberal arts / gender studies "college" students always had to come to my rescue.

Fuck buying into their bullshit and FUCK Cultural Marxism.

You get really worked up over the fact that some people get upset when people are being assholes around them. It's not that they can't take hearing certain words, they just think certain things are ignorant to say, and shouldn't be said. If you want to say them fine, don't be surprised if certain people will call you ignorant.

I think you're mixing up me getting "worked up" with me not give a shit about appeasing overly sensitive millennials. Fuck your feelings.

You know how I don't give a shit about things? I DONT go on long, pointless rants on internet forums to explain how little things bother me, I simply don't think about those things, you should try it. Maybe you have anger management issues?

Trigger warning: FUCK OFF.

Lol yeah, I totally go on long winded "social justice" rants. I'm just trying to say you come off like a bit of a dick when you talk like one, that's all political correctness is about. There isn't a secret police that literally arrests people for thought crimes in America, but if you publically behave like an asshole, and have any level of media exposure whatsoever, expect there to be some kind of backlash. people love to get upset over pointless shit. There is a reason why up until trump, being politically correct was done by the major players, they have pr firms and tons of data to back up why politicians do what they do.

100% cosigned

Because if that's all it was it wouldn't be authoritarian and militant about it.

It wouldn't be propagated by assholes.

It's pretty sad that your opinion is so controversial. I mean, like all things, some take it too far. I've found, however, that people just want the right to say whatever they want, but they don't want to experience any adverse consequences such as social backlash. Free speech doesn't and shouldn't work like that.

Communism for us, fascism for there

The term was invented in the 90's to poke fun at and grumble about the culture of, well, "political correctness," that was coming into being at the time.

It's not clear to me what PC culture has to do with Venezuela.

You are right. Jordan Peterson talked about this at length.

I think there is a solution: to use a Judo move against post-modernist ideology. Combine that with weaponized autism.

Only 71 genders? Are you fucking kidding me? What about the others who now feel excluded?

What about the wankers, the gerbilizers, the pedophiles, the cactiphiles, the ...

Please suggest others. Imagine this list of genders making it into the official law.

The public will laugh.

The same tactics that these "activists" use to shut others up can be used to force this shit through.

If you like this idea, please make an anon post (you know where)

OP, mate! I couldn't agree with you more!

If you have any idea that isn't part of PC culture then it gives people the perfect excuse to ridicule you.

Bingo!

Thanks for making this post, keep spreading the word

me? I've never been PC and won't be changing anytime soon ;D

I'm sorry you're getting shilled so hard. It's terribly unfair.

Political correctness is the way to shut people with a different view on a topic off.

This works by making unsane claims against sane points and undermining every discussion by claming unjustice. Even when it does not have anything to to with the original topic and sometimes their claims are not even remotely logical or rational.

This way it is easy to demonise other views becouse the oppsosites are shutting up becouse they are not able to swimm against all the bs. and they don't wan't a false "stamp"on them.

This way the opposition is crushed and reality goos out the door.

I don't think PC culture is unique to any particular ideology, it's just that liberal PC culture is perhaps more dominant in the media these days. In the past the religious right were very much engaged in the practice of censoring media of words and thoughts that they deemed dangerous to society. The religious right is why we have obscene words censored from television. They continue to fight the normalization of LGBT people in the media. For example Mark Dice when apeshit when Dove soap company dared to feature one trans couple in their ads.

They are also the reason many books have been banned and continue to be banned from public libraries and schools. Harry Potter was recently the most banned book for like a decade because the religious right felt that it promoted Satanic values. They frequently organize to ban books that discuss homosexuality.

Wait, so you think that a functional society looks like a transgender 'male' getting a dick attached to himself and then fucking a HIV infested male in the ass in front of his bisexual gender fluid children while wearing satanic symbolism and taking LSD with shitty modern art fece drawings in the background intermingled with pictures of child molestation while listening to anacoda by nicki minaj in a rainbow apartment?

Lower the dosage man. Or take more. IDK, but doing something because you're out there. Like Pluto out there.

I'm from Venezuela

No you're not.

I am just Venezuelan in blood (born and raised in US) but my family came from (or still lives in) Venezuela and they don't give two shits about political correctness. They're more concerned economic rigging than social fads.

Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners.

I'm curious to you claiming Venezuela is a communist county.

Got to push his agenda some how

Wow was not expecting this thread to be so shilly. Do we even have a community here any more? Or is every thread just an argument with brigading shills?

Yeah, really is telling how dozens of anti-r/conspiracy pro-TPTB people flooded in to tell us about how newspeak is such a good idea, and to just shut up and fall in line, plebe.

The mods just happen to accidentally make their entire rule-base for the sub around protecting these same anti-conspiracy users' feelings at all costs.

Is this the poster who think we have a "Jewish problem"

Sorry it's not fashionable to call people niggers and faggots anymore because that's all being PC really is. Not some insane conspiracy.

lol the horrors of communism.

It's easy to see that people who think this way and hate PC culture are in fact retarded.

lives in a country with a self established dictator with millions of citizens protesting him, with thousands being arrested and no international coverage Thinks PC culture is the biggest threat to him

Can someone give me a definition and an example of what they believe to be political correctness?

I think the term gets confused and abused. Take black folks for example. It's not okay nor is it politically correct for white people to call a black people niggers. On the other hand, it is correct to call them African American, even though they are probably not actually from Africa. In this case, black seems a perfectly descriptive and neutral term.

Or take people with disabilities. The politically correct terms "physically challenged" or "differently able" are just absurd attempts to change the way nondisabled people think about disabled people. If I say that someone with crippled legs has a disability, I'm not subjugating them and oppressing them, I'm merely pointing out a fact. Because I use the world disabled does not mean I am going to beat and ridicule the person. I can tell the truth about their disability and still respect the person and treat them with dignity and kindness. There's no need to change the language I use to describe them.

Another example is post traumatic stress disorder. This is the politically correct term for someone who has had to see or do some fucked up shit. If a soldier in Afghanistan shoots 10 children under the orders of his commander and then develops problems reintegrating into civilian life, he isn't suffering from a disorder. He has done some terrible shit and can't reconcile that version of himself with the current civilian version. His mind and soul are fucked, but we have to say he has a "stress disorder."

The solution I see to these examples of political correctness is to just unashamedly tell the truth. Say "black people" and "disabled people," but treat those people with respect and dignity. Don't use the PC language, but still treat people the way the deserve to be treated.

What am I missing about political correctness that you all are arguing against here?

On the whole I agree with you. Whatever words you're using, treat people with respect and dignity. Treat them as your equal. Listen, engage, aide. At it's root, political correctness is supposed to be about that; talking about and treating your fellow like he is your fellow man. Some ridiculous extreme examples come out of it but the answer to that isn't to shut down the whole thing entirely.

The reason that OP specifically is railing against "PC Culture" is because he's a neo-Nazi who doesn't like that he can't spout hatred about Jewish people and self-fellate to Hitler's portrait in public, and unfortunately I suspect that a lot of the people coming to his defence either have the same views or are willing to look the other way if it means they can rail against their preferred minority target.

The only bone I have to pick with your comment is on the PTSD point. PTSD isn't just a disorder suffered by the armed forces, it's suffered by fire fighters and rape victims and others too.

You ever learn a new word, then start seeing that word everywhere? That's kind of how PTSD works. When you learn that new word the brain adapts it into your knowledge and will pick it out for you. With PTSD, the person goes through a traumatic event, their brain tries to adapt to recognise the danger to prevent it or react better to it next time. But because it was so traumatic the brain basically picks up anything similar to the original trauma and goes THAT'S IT! THAT'S IT! OVER THERE! SAME THING! PREPARE TO DEFEND! Their brain is now noticing all the things it used to discard because it learned this new trick. Normally that would be an okay thing but it interferes with the person's life so it gets classified as a disorder.

A soldier hears fireworks and their brain screams GUN FIRE GUN FIRE PREPARE FOR DEATH! A rape victim is grabbed without expecting it and their brain screams THEY'RE GOING TO HOLD YOU DOWN PREPARE FOR RAPE! A fire fighter hears a baby crying and their brain screams THAT BABY IS DYING AND WILL BURN TO DEATH!

I understand why you have trouble feeling sympathy for a soldier who did a terrible thing "under orders". But I hope you reconsider your view of PTSD as a disorder given that so many of the people who suffer it were the victims, not the perpetrators.

My comment about PTSD was referencing a George Carlin bit about political correctness. I did not mean to discount the seriousness of the conditions. I intended to criticize the language we use to describe the condition. Carlin says that PTSD used to be called "shell shock," a term which more closely represents what and why the condition is. He says that calling it PTSD instead is an attempt to dilute the seriousness and origins of the condition.

https://youtu.be/G9n8Xp8DWf8

Whoops! I didn't pick up that reference.

Venezuela isn't communist, they're just fucked

Venezuela isn't communist, they're just fucked

PC is cancer. Nothing more, nothing less. It should be fought at every angle.

Great discussion on PC culture and why it's become so prevalent.

I just think that leftists are really becomming the 'boy who cried wolf'. Because they shout about opression where there is none and when there actually is opression no one will listen to them because they are so used to overreact. Honestly, I am transexual and I can't stand my own trans rights movement. We can't even have a real talk anymore. We can't say there isn't opression, opression is very real and deadly to minorities, but leftists are more worried about making those minorities join their own movement and their own pursue of power instead of actually wanting to make a change because they truly care. It's a battle of egos.

Highly recommend anything by Jordan Peterson. The man is brilliant and is combating this type of stuff. Refreshing to listen to. His latest pod with JRE was fantastic.

It also segregates people by dividinc them into neat little groups with labels like: Black, white, gay, straight....etc.

Skin color don't real?

Here's the thing about political correctness- it's basically people telling you you're being an asshole. You have the right to be an asshole, other people have the right to object to vocally object to that. Other people's free speech rights are not eclipsed by your desire to not feel butthurt about society's rejection of your reprehensible opinions. "Oh! I can't say the N word!" Yeah you can. It's legal. But don't expect other people not to judge you for it.

I think that here are three separate phenomenons intertwined together to create the current mess.

a) Communism- This has accelerated due to the orchestrated economic crash, rising student loans, lowering quality employment etc. The desire to have EVERYTHING as free will be high if EVERYTHING is hard to get.

b) Identity politics : This is a long term political tool for divide and conquer. Inherently people know that everything cannot be free, so they make groups among similar people to maintain better control for the resources. Politicians and the bankers who control them understand this. So they control the major portion of the resources while distributing little bits to various identity groups.

A special note here- Resource can be materialistic or psychological

c) Boredom: I think boredom has a big role to play in the current ultra SJW culture we find ourselves in. If you go to any third world country, there are enough real problem that people have no time for the SJW BS. Even in US, UK, France there is a big difference between what the urban centers think of as "social problems" and what the other places think of as "social problems". The SJW "ideas" usually emerge from the upper liberal class. This is a classical example of a "First world problem" becoming a nuisance. Some people need other people to be in some kind of difficulty or problem so that they can "help" them. In the absence of real issues, they have to pull up issues from thin air. It is an attention problem multiplied by instant gratification in social media, campuses etc.

Combine all this and we result in the hailstorm we are in.

You mean Jews right? Don't surgarcoat it.

If I call one of my friends retarded or faggot, I'm not saying that to offend mentally disabled or gay people. Words are only offensive if you make them offensive.

This is one of the dumbest posts I have read. PC culture is worse than genocide, biological weapons, war for greed etc.. I think I am actually less smart for reading your post.

PC culture is worse than torture, drone assassinations, lead in the tap water, anthrax attacks, false flag bombings, military coups, crazed killer cops, fake terrorist beheadings. I'm so oppressed by PC culture !

Damn, 13 is tough age.

I'm so triggered

New Speak

yes, you admitted it to me a few days ago. same posting style and topics as well. youre a liar and only here to spread disinfo. im done though as im sure you have more than that one account.

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nice of you to deny it, yet somehow found the thread from 4 days ago with this account that you originally used your alt during discussion with me on. you just outed yourself again.

that must be really tough on you and the rest of the SS. how could we be so blind? It's too bad we destroyed the nazis you surely admire before they could stop the 'white genocide'. which totally exists. and doesn't make you sound like a lunatic.

no, thats not what I was complaining about

That's exactly what you were complaining about.

am I allowed to openly disagree with you being openly gay?(in public) if the answer is anything but yes, you've proven the OPs point.

You even went back to that

so when I ridicule two homosexuals holding hands in public, then thats them exercising free speech, and me making them responsible for the dumb shit they are doing in public, yes?

So this whole thing has been you complaining about not being able to be an asshole to gay people in public. That was the example you decided to use multiple times. Maybe you wouldn't actually do that, but that's what you are arguing you should be allowed to do without any societal implications.

You still haven't told me how many times you've been jailed for disagreeing with gay people. Surely you're not just trying to fear-monger...

Good on you man. There is a without a doubt an attack on Christianity in the west. You're not even supposed to talk about God because it might offend the poor wittle degenerate atheist's feelings.

Meanwhile they'll stick up for backwards ass Islam all day.

Liberalism is degeneracy.

Maybe you're just using "pc" to describe something else entirely?

Cool. Bring up your faith when it isn't relevant to the conversation. I'll bring up my atheism and how our President scares me when he says Americans believe in god.

no. I don't think any Islamic extremists know I exist.

told you im finished engaging your BS. think what you want i couldnt care less.

It's 'hypothetical' now that your bigotry has been called out.

clearly, you know nothing.

Never done shrooms, but I don't need em to see past your ignorance. You should try them, maybe it will let you realize how ass backwards your logic is. Funny how you just happen to be against gay people.

dont backpedal because you got called out. 4 chan has always had a large pedo community so lets get real.

"Political Correctness" is really of Communist origin. It was originally used extensively by the Soviet Union propaganda offices while enforced by the NKVD.

It basically means every speech that's outside the communist party-line's approved narrative is getting shut down, violently if necessary.

If you dissect the word "Political" and "Correctness" you will realize that "Political" refers to the current doctrine approved by the ruling party.

"Correctness" just means that it follows the directive by the ruling party, without any deviation.

The WW2 Nazi's used a term called "Gleichschaltung", not to be confused with the technical term "phasing". It means that ALL media will only propagate one narrative approved by the Government.

You can see this happening in the USA today. All MSM is bascially the same voice.

The US. Government is successfully uniting Fascism and total Communism in one form.

Your one of those people who believe Republicans do all bad and Democrats are all good.

Grow up.

He didn't say anything about Americans. He called the original poster a neo-Nazi, which I agree was likely too far.

But it's probably also too far to call PC supporters Communists. Stalinist Russia was responsible for the murder and incarceration of millions of people. I don't know that the PC folks have quite reached that mark yet.

How so? I'm not the one that visits pedo boards on 4 chan and calls people niggers

racism = well yes white people are on average smarter than black people.. it is not a belief it is a fact.

sexism = yes females tend to prefer being in supportive roles, not domineering ones

homophobia = yes homosexuality is a mental disorder and worthy of condemnation, it is just another precursor for an even more depraved form of society wherein the broader population sympathises with pedophiles.

ok now slit your throat you ugly little liberal swine

So, basically what T_D does, and also the Trump apologists who can't handle any criticism.

Got it. Projection is such a delicate thing.

Would you believe me if I told you I identify as a Leninist

Yeah, I'd believe it, you're a T_D poster. And hey, it's just like Bannon. Congrats.

and that T_D allows dissenting opinion?

That's not true.

The effectiveness of free markets combined with proper safety regulations is what we're all after, even some communists.

Not if you're a Bannon/Trump supporter. That's just revisionist bullshit.

Have you tried talking with a Trump fan? They're usually friendly and willing to have a conversation.

My entire family voted for him. Thanks for playing.

Did u read what the guy I was responding to even said

You're just mischaracterizing my position.

I believe all drugs should be legal, all of them. I believe that good quality heroin should be available to the public as well as stigma free treatment and recovery. Do I believe people should do heroin? Absolutely not.

I believe in sexual acceptance but I do think sexual degeneracy exists and is a problem. Sexual degeneracy is a bigger problem today than bigotry. I don't believe in public displays of sexuality and lewdness. Promiscuity is a proveably bad idea but I don't believe in sexual repression.

This all probably far to subtle for ham fisted lug such as yourself, but I can tell by your username that your making an effort.

I would never just unleash heroin on a repressive moralistic society because that's an explosive combination. Likewise I would never promote sexual degeneracy on an uptight sexually repressive society.

Uhmmm, why exactly?

Well... not really. If you recognize that we all have biases and you're able to recognize and correct cognitive dissonance, in an intellectually honest way, then you could work through being "brainwashed" if you really were. All of us are prone to confirmation bias too, it's not something that Liberals or Conservatives exclusively experience, for example.

What I'm getting at is that through introspection and... just being honest with yourself and, most importantly, being consistent in your beliefs, then you can keep yourself in an intellectually honest place. You won't always be successful immediately, but if you try to keep yourself honest then you'll eventually come around. I believe that it's inevitable.

For example; Wanting to use your free speech to openly criticize someone's lifestyle while complaining/disliking/(wanting others to be unable to critique) about the social backlash of others using their free speech to critique the original criticism shows an inconsistent/hypocritical belief in free speech.

Then there's the issue of using physical violence in response to someone exercising their right to free speech. There are some who would enthusiastically agree with my first example yet they cheered "bash the fascist (they also didn't recognize irony)" as Richard Spencer (I think that was his name) was sucker punched and assaulted. He holds some pretty disgusting ideas, but if you really believe in the idea of free speech then you should decry the act of violence perpetrated against him.

It seems like people just want to be assholes to other people who do something or espouse ideals that they disagree with. I know that I'm certainly guilty of this. This turned into a bit of a jumbled mess as it's difficult for me to convey my thoughts about this. It could be my lack of education in cognitive sciences, definitely. I suppose I could've been less verbose and just said "remember the Golden Rule", but I hope it made a little sense.

And so many of these same people are complaining about a lack of civil discourse...

Yeah, I made a long and rambling post about this. They're completely inconsistent in how they apply free speech. They want to be able to criticize lifestyle choices and ideals that others espouse while being immune to people criticizing their speech. One of these days they'll recognize how hypocritical it is.

Can't have quality discourse when accusing others of shilling and digging through their post history in order to discredit them instead of addressing the content of a post. It's actively encouraged here. Maybe they'll recognize this too.

Lol sure man you should learn how to lose an argument considering you lost like 5 of em with other people in this thread phahaha

You get really worked up over the fact that some people get upset when people are being assholes around them. It's not that they can't take hearing certain words, they just think certain things are ignorant to say, and shouldn't be said. If you want to say them fine, don't be surprised if certain people will call you ignorant.

100% cosigned