This is because the board is being infiltrated by political/media shills who are trying to steer us back into believing this increasingly ridiculous narrative. We need to stand our ground and fight back this dis-informational war, DO NOT RUN!!!
Semi true. BOTs are pushing discussion on both sides. look at how the seth rich news hit yesterday. hundreds of new threads about it, over and over and over, most of them quoting the same initial headline, most of them from new-ish to fully new accounts with no post history.
I'm agree that paid shills and bots exist. I'm frustrated in that people willfully ignore bots that push ideas you like making it feel like more people are into what you think than actually do.
I would say let them have it, could be fun watching this sub derail into absolute shillhood. Thats what makes the internet so beautiful: We always find a way to tell the truth.
Only serve to splinter the user base further. We should all go down with the ship.
Personally that's a huge Reddit pet peeve of mine. If any sub gets big enough it's splintered into a ton of smaller, more specific subs and kills the community. Look at any gaming sub for examples. Overwatch must have a dozen offshoots.
Speak freely about the one thing that has the establishment by the balls? Hard to achieve these days. This and Voat might be the last place but Voat PG is sequestered, controlled and not a public outlet and well..you can see what they're doing here.
Yea, they're coming. In before "this sub is just T_D2.0" and "people aren't shills just because they want to discuss the Trump-Russia collusion also," etc.
That's because you obviously haven't been here for years and watched it evolve. It has reasons for why it feels the way it does to you in here. And yes. New accounts () aren't credible here because they look fishy.
In fact, your insinuation that there is an effort to control the narrative among people who have been here longer only further proves my post is accurate.
If you post a good thread on it, people will discuss it. Just look at the Stargate thread. Many people want to discuss politics without all the shilling. That is the point of this thread.
if they find it amongst the reposts, 15 posts in the same subject with no actual research, links, deep thoughts other than short opinion bursts, that is...
This place has been overrun by globalist and establishment shills worse than just about any other sub. Its pretty sad. If this thread takes off at all I guarantee they will show up here as well. My personal feeling is that we should just discuss stuff, ignore upvotes and downvotes, and ignore the shills.
No, the sub has been overrun by hysterical retards on both sides who have replaced 2/3 of substantive content with arguments over who the shills are.
Guess what, fostering that environment is a lot more efficient way to ruin a forum than spending hours arguing in the hopes of changing a couple redditors' minds. That's the conspiracy and you're playing right into it.
I was actually just wondering of there is a sub that discusses things like predictions and the future in a way leaning towards conspiracy theories. I occasionally see things like that on here that catch my interest but they are often followed by comments about how people are sick of predictions never happening and so on. I'd like to find a place where people actually enjoy learning and discussing these type of things like I do, if anyone has a subreddit they could point me to that would be nice.
To find a place where you can discuss conspiracies in peace without it derailing into a total mess where people accuse the other of being a shill. I feel like most people who actually study conspiracy are beyond the political spectrum. It's all pretty much the same shit.
I feel like left–right political spectrums is purposefully created to divide people. Almost feels like political "racism" where if you are right leaning, everyone on the left are fucking idiots and the same on the opposite.
Now I get why many from /r/conspiracy would side with Trump because the fact is that he is/was an outsider to the political agenda. Just take a look at the storm he pushed through in order to be the elected president. However it would be totally foolish to think that he could change things on his own. Things will have to get ALLOT uglier before it gets better. I firmly believe that even some blood have to be spilled before the system ever changes. No party will ever serve the people, the people will have to fight for themselves.
Something has changed, not just here but with the world. I see all these moving parts, be it military or information. It's like the world is preparing itself for...something. I wish I could know because unlike people in power, I believe there should be no truths withheld. I don't buy into the narrative that people can't handle the truth. The people who can't handle it will find a way to cope. I have a neighbor that just lost his wife and only son in a car accident. He is still going to work even though everyone is telling him, he should break down and grieve. He told me he is, in his own way and working is part of his process. It just affirms that people are stronger than we give credit. I don't even believe most of the world is stupid. No. How can someone be stupid when they are just perceiving the world as their parents raised them, whose parents raised them the same way. Ignorance and stupidty are two different things. We need to help, as carefully as possible their awakening.
august_landmesser @ https://www.reddit.com/user/august_landmesser <<-- Obvious Shill.. Account has been only active for 3 months.. has something like 7K+ comment Karma.. It doesn't get anymore obvious.. I say we develop a plug-in for Firefox / chrome that looks at account stats and flags Shill accounts potentially or maybe filtering their content from displaying on our browser..
Try /r/t_d if you want to ignore the real conspiracy and cirlejerk with fellow trumpets. Everyone there will gladly agree with you always if your narrative supports trump and if they don't well ban for them
It will never get back to anything like it was if all of the good people leave. I think we can outlast the funding and stamina of the paid influences that plague us, but we need to stick to it and stay positive.
I have such a place. The only reason I answered here, in this sub, is because OP asked directly. Otherwise, I do not visit here or participate other than to glance over the state of things.
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n/a 456com 2017-05-17
This is because the board is being infiltrated by political/media shills who are trying to steer us back into believing this increasingly ridiculous narrative. We need to stand our ground and fight back this dis-informational war, DO NOT RUN!!!
n/a NimSauce 2017-05-17
Semi true. BOTs are pushing discussion on both sides. look at how the seth rich news hit yesterday. hundreds of new threads about it, over and over and over, most of them quoting the same initial headline, most of them from new-ish to fully new accounts with no post history.
I'm agree that paid shills and bots exist. I'm frustrated in that people willfully ignore bots that push ideas you like making it feel like more people are into what you think than actually do.
n/a ABrilliantDisaster 2017-05-17
Agree. If we don't stand somewhere, we have nowhere left.
n/a firewaterdirt 2017-05-17
I would say let them have it, could be fun watching this sub derail into absolute shillhood. Thats what makes the internet so beautiful: We always find a way to tell the truth.
n/a vea_ariam 2017-05-17
Yeah, OP sees all the smoke and mirrors and thinks the sub has been overrun by idiots; pretty much exactly the goal they set out to accomplish.
pol comes to mind though if you can't handle idiocy or shills here...
n/a firewaterdirt 2017-05-17
All I am saying is we can learn from it and find alternative places to discuss this
n/a vea_ariam 2017-05-17
Only serve to splinter the user base further. We should all go down with the ship.
Personally that's a huge Reddit pet peeve of mine. If any sub gets big enough it's splintered into a ton of smaller, more specific subs and kills the community. Look at any gaming sub for examples. Overwatch must have a dozen offshoots.
n/a 537311 2017-05-17
4chan pol
n/a PM_ME_UR_GLIPGLOPS 2017-05-17
x too
n/a ABrilliantDisaster 2017-05-17
Speak freely about the one thing that has the establishment by the balls? Hard to achieve these days. This and Voat might be the last place but Voat PG is sequestered, controlled and not a public outlet and well..you can see what they're doing here.
n/a firewaterdirt 2017-05-17
You see? I just started this thread and pretty much everyone is in harmony. Can't wait to see how this unveils.
n/a ABrilliantDisaster 2017-05-17
Well, there are 3,472 people on right now. I'm sorry to say you're going to get shill hit like a son of a bitch.
n/a firewaterdirt 2017-05-17
Well lets just watch and enjoy this thing.
n/a CrustyGrundle 2017-05-17
Yea, they're coming. In before "this sub is just T_D2.0" and "people aren't shills just because they want to discuss the Trump-Russia collusion also," etc.
n/a thag_you_very_buch 2017-05-17
Try voat.co
n/a tedsmitts 2017-05-17
/r/actualconspiracies but it's pretty slow
n/a IntellisaurDinoAlien 2017-05-17
It's also controlled by gatekeepers.
n/a Bullet_tooth_t0ny 2017-05-17
As if this place isn't?
Create a new account and post a thread that goes against the narrative. Try and be critical of Trump. See how far it gets you
n/a necro_clown 2017-05-17
That's because you obviously haven't been here for years and watched it evolve. It has reasons for why it feels the way it does to you in here. And yes. New accounts () aren't credible here because they look fishy.
n/a Bullet_tooth_t0ny 2017-05-17
Nothing you wrote changes what I said.
In fact, your insinuation that there is an effort to control the narrative among people who have been here longer only further proves my post is accurate.
n/a necro_clown 2017-05-17
Cool story. You're still wrong.
n/a Bullet_tooth_t0ny 2017-05-17
Looks like I must have struck a nerve.
I guess my post about gatekeepers was a little close to home for you, huh
n/a necro_clown 2017-05-17
Lol not at all :)
n/a novaexpress 2017-05-17
I want a place talking about UFOs, structures on Mars, Chemtrails, Flat earth, Mandela effect, ect... Not all this political bullshit.
n/a quantumcipher 2017-05-17
Try /r/HighStrangeness, for that, specifically. Also /r/C_S_T and /r/AlternativeHistory.
For research into the occult, secret societies and esotericism see: /r/OccultConspiracy.
n/a novaexpress 2017-05-17
Thanks fam
n/a quantumcipher 2017-05-17
No problem.
n/a CrustyGrundle 2017-05-17
If you post a good thread on it, people will discuss it. Just look at the Stargate thread. Many people want to discuss politics without all the shilling. That is the point of this thread.
n/a mrcassette 2017-05-17
if they find it amongst the reposts, 15 posts in the same subject with no actual research, links, deep thoughts other than short opinion bursts, that is...
n/a CrustyGrundle 2017-05-17
Then ignore those threads and post in others? Novel concept, I know.
n/a Alx__ 2017-05-17
Want to talk about Flat Earth? Come on now.
n/a xofiatc 2017-05-17
/r/MandelaEffect
n/a lalalola89 2017-05-17
/r/retconned
n/a BinLeenk 2017-05-17
R/cosmicdiaclosure
n/a dukey 2017-05-17
Honestly reddit is fucked. Try voat.
n/a GlenCompton 2017-05-17
Almost the entire Voat community will work. Go check it out!
n/a Ne007 2017-05-17
You are too close to reality. You can't even talk about it, even here at r/conspiracy. Try voat. Reddit is fucked.
n/a joe_jaywalker 2017-05-17
Come to Voat, visit voat.co/v/conspiracy. It needs content and traffic.
n/a firewaterdirt 2017-05-17
Can't create an account right now.
n/a joe_jaywalker 2017-05-17
Oh yeah I forgot about that crap. If I can help let me know (by sending you an invite or whatever, not sure how it works now)
n/a firewaterdirt 2017-05-17
Sure man if you have extra time then go ahead :)
n/a PM_ME_UR_GLIPGLOPS 2017-05-17
8chan too
n/a CrustyGrundle 2017-05-17
This place has been overrun by globalist and establishment shills worse than just about any other sub. Its pretty sad. If this thread takes off at all I guarantee they will show up here as well. My personal feeling is that we should just discuss stuff, ignore upvotes and downvotes, and ignore the shills.
n/a mastigia 2017-05-17
Imho, that is just telling me what we do here matters.
n/a YoungOnion 2017-05-17
Exactly, it means it's getting to them.
n/a SocraticMethHead 2017-05-17
No, the sub has been overrun by hysterical retards on both sides who have replaced 2/3 of substantive content with arguments over who the shills are.
Guess what, fostering that environment is a lot more efficient way to ruin a forum than spending hours arguing in the hopes of changing a couple redditors' minds. That's the conspiracy and you're playing right into it.
n/a CrustyGrundle 2017-05-17
Only one side is doing the shilling, the rest of us are genuine. I believe that to be true, and I trust my judgement.
n/a SocraticMethHead 2017-05-17
Everyone huh? Even the T_d mod starting arguments with his alt Account?
n/a maulynvia 2017-05-17
/r/conspiracyv2 is an option. Membership is invitation only. Its pretty quiet there, but this could be changed
n/a canon7575 2017-05-17
Lemme in
n/a maulynvia 2017-05-17
pls message the mods
n/a canon7575 2017-05-17
Sorry, how do I do that exactly? When I click on the link it just says this community is locked.
n/a maulynvia 2017-05-17
If i log out and visit https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracyv2 there is a large button mid screen "message the moderators"
n/a canon7575 2017-05-17
Think its cuz im on mobile
n/a nibiru_chaser 2017-05-17
Invite please
n/a maulynvia 2017-05-17
pls message the mods
n/a blokereport 2017-05-17
how can I get an invite?
n/a CacophonySociety 2017-05-17
Me too please!!
n/a maulynvia 2017-05-17
message the mods
n/a Reltius 2017-05-17
If you leave you let the shills win 😢
n/a DmitriVanderbilt 2017-05-17
4chan.org/x
n/a PM_ME_UR_GLIPGLOPS 2017-05-17
A little too many "how can I summon a succubus?" posts, but I do love my x.
n/a somegirlyname19 2017-05-17
I was actually just wondering of there is a sub that discusses things like predictions and the future in a way leaning towards conspiracy theories. I occasionally see things like that on here that catch my interest but they are often followed by comments about how people are sick of predictions never happening and so on. I'd like to find a place where people actually enjoy learning and discussing these type of things like I do, if anyone has a subreddit they could point me to that would be nice.
n/a Ignix 2017-05-17
One of the tactics used by astroturfing operations is to splinter communities so as to diminish the critical mass of the participants.
What are your motives, OP?
n/a firewaterdirt 2017-05-17
To find a place where you can discuss conspiracies in peace without it derailing into a total mess where people accuse the other of being a shill. I feel like most people who actually study conspiracy are beyond the political spectrum. It's all pretty much the same shit.
I feel like left–right political spectrums is purposefully created to divide people. Almost feels like political "racism" where if you are right leaning, everyone on the left are fucking idiots and the same on the opposite.
Now I get why many from /r/conspiracy would side with Trump because the fact is that he is/was an outsider to the political agenda. Just take a look at the storm he pushed through in order to be the elected president. However it would be totally foolish to think that he could change things on his own. Things will have to get ALLOT uglier before it gets better. I firmly believe that even some blood have to be spilled before the system ever changes. No party will ever serve the people, the people will have to fight for themselves.
n/a Hawking69Tyson 2017-05-17
R/science
n/a PM_ME_UR_GLIPGLOPS 2017-05-17
Is this a joke lol
n/a Hawking69Tyson 2017-05-17
come @ me w/ ur facts
n/a PM_ME_UR_GLIPGLOPS 2017-05-17
u so silly
n/a Hawking69Tyson 2017-05-17
alternative fact's
n/a TheZerubbabel 2017-05-17
Something has changed, not just here but with the world. I see all these moving parts, be it military or information. It's like the world is preparing itself for...something. I wish I could know because unlike people in power, I believe there should be no truths withheld. I don't buy into the narrative that people can't handle the truth. The people who can't handle it will find a way to cope. I have a neighbor that just lost his wife and only son in a car accident. He is still going to work even though everyone is telling him, he should break down and grieve. He told me he is, in his own way and working is part of his process. It just affirms that people are stronger than we give credit. I don't even believe most of the world is stupid. No. How can someone be stupid when they are just perceiving the world as their parents raised them, whose parents raised them the same way. Ignorance and stupidty are two different things. We need to help, as carefully as possible their awakening.
n/a ChiTownMafia 2017-05-17
august_landmesser @ https://www.reddit.com/user/august_landmesser <<-- Obvious Shill.. Account has been only active for 3 months.. has something like 7K+ comment Karma.. It doesn't get anymore obvious.. I say we develop a plug-in for Firefox / chrome that looks at account stats and flags Shill accounts potentially or maybe filtering their content from displaying on our browser..
n/a dont_tread_on_dc 2017-05-17
Try /r/t_d if you want to ignore the real conspiracy and cirlejerk with fellow trumpets. Everyone there will gladly agree with you always if your narrative supports trump and if they don't well ban for them
n/a Aders83 2017-05-17
R/C_S_T is a fun space to talk about big ideas.
n/a jafbm52 2017-05-17
I've been here for years and years you just got to have a thick skin and learn to read between the lines
n/a mastigia 2017-05-17
It will never get back to anything like it was if all of the good people leave. I think we can outlast the funding and stamina of the paid influences that plague us, but we need to stick to it and stay positive.
n/a _Ph03niX 2017-05-17
I have such a place. The only reason I answered here, in this sub, is because OP asked directly. Otherwise, I do not visit here or participate other than to glance over the state of things.
n/a XavierSimmons 2017-05-17
You have two options on the internet.
1) A private room where you disallow dissenting opinion (otherwise known as an echo chamber.)
2) A public discussion area where you let facts speak for themselves and run the risk of being overrun by brigaders with a biased agenda.
I don't know what's worse.
n/a necro_clown 2017-05-17
Oh you were here before? With your new account. Go hang out in politics. Plenty of conspiracy in there.