Ignore it and post about something you'd like to discuss. I don't think censorship is a valid option. There are browser add ons for Reddit than can filter content if you don't want to view certain topics
"It's a psyop". There's a false flat earth psyop, yes, but it's run by the govt, not by true flat earthers. The Flat Earth Society is a shill group composed of false shills. Check out the flat earth asshole on youtube
Flat earth asshole is a complete idiot who can't grasp basic science. I laughed myself to tears when a friend tried to show me his videos.
According to him, the motive behind NASA faking all this stuff and covering up a flat earth is to "steal your minds". The guy is either a troll, or an extremely vulnerable individual in need of medical attention. I'm going with troll.
I easily see more anti-FE posts on a daily basis than pro-FE posts
For a theory that's "nonsense" to the point you would ban it, I don't often see many good arguments against it. Mostly all I see is "can you believe idiots believe this bullshit?" and other rank ad hominems.
Well if there were some pro-globe argument that shot them out of the saddle, they might be forced to stop anyway. I just don't think as many people can be sure of the curvature like they think they are, it's an interesting debate because the "right" side often just appeals to authority when they would seemingly have a big arsenal of decisive proofs.
Not convincing and I have no reason to think the earth is flat. What would be convincing is if you provided a photo of the support columns of a big bridge being non-parallel like you said. Obviously we can't travel to the poles ether.
We can't travel to the poles but we can observe the celestial poles by looking at the sky. You only need to be able to travel between the the northern and southern hemispheres to see them both.
What would be convincing is if you provided a photo of the support columns of a big bridge being non-parallel like you said.
Of course you want to see that, and consider only that to be proof. The fact that such a photo would be impossible doesn't matter.
That's why people ridicule flat earthers. You demand impossible evidence while denying the evidence that proves you wrong.
Why do I say this? The circumference of earth is over 24,901 miles. Divide 24,901 by 360 and you will find that you would have to travel over 69 miles to travel 1 degree around the earth.
That means two perfectly vertical pillars would need to be over 69 miles apart to see a 1 degree difference in angle. At that distance, if the pillars were 1,000 feet high, the distance between their bases would be 364,320 feet, and the distance between their tops would be 364,337.5 feet a difference of 17.5 feet.
The idea that a single photo would be able to show such a small difference over such a long distance is ludicrous.
I'm not a flat earther but I'm responding to a person who is saying it's SO EASY to prove the curvature, all you have to do is look at a bridge. And I'm making the point that if it's that easy you could show a picture or something. Guess it's not actually that easy.
Well if there were some pro-globe argument that shot them out of the saddle, they might be forced to stop anyway.
Nope. I have done it more than once. The usual result is for the flat earther to run away from that thread, then post the same bullshit again the next day.
For a theory that's "nonsense" to the point you would ban it, I don't often see many good arguments against it.
Bullshit. I personally have disproved flat earth claims time and time again.
Mostly all I see is "can you believe idiots believe this bullshit?" and other rank ad hominems.
Maybe that's all you want to see. The fact is these claims are disproved over and over again, and then some moron posts the same bullshit claim again.
Apparently I have a hell of a lot more patience than most, so I do not mind disproving the same claims over and over again. Other people give up and resort to ridicule.
I commend your stance. Love it or hate it, it is a very popular topic which attracts hundreds or thousands of comments for and against. And why not? It would be the biggest conspiracy of all time, if true.
Though I'm not sure if mods have anything to do with always hiding it in "controversial", we know NASA has people down-vote anything challenging earth and space narratives, and it makes some people so angry for some reason! Nevertheless, it is worthy of debate and definitely belongs on this sub.
While many of the things discussed in this sub are speculative and unproven, there is nothing which is even close to Flat earth in terms of being proven 100% wrong on every front.
OK. Grab a telescope and watch a boat go over the horizon.
Or, find the longest suspension bridge in your part of the world. Use a sprit level or similar to check that the tallest supports are all perfectly vertices. Now, drive a couple of miles away, but still I'm view of the bridge. Are the furthest away supports perfectly parrallel? No? Well how can that be? They are both perfectly vertical.
If these aren't enough, I'll gladly take you on a trip on a space plane to view the curvatur with your own eyes. You'll have to pay for the tickets though.
Just for the record, I am not a Flat Earther or a Round Earther. I admit, I don't know. I only know what I've been told.
Your point of view is not uncommon. It's the main reason our society is so fucked up right now. People have become unable to distinguish the truth from the chaos of lies and misinformation.
I completely agree that flat earth is likely crap and may be a psyop but censorship is worse. For all we know you are a disinfo agent trying to suppress flat earth and it's the very thing that will liberate us. Yea a stretch of the imagination but still we have to allow ideas to flow.
For all we know flat earth psyop was created to get freethinkers to censor ideas so they can convince us to censor other more important and real conspiracies.
Censorship is not the answer. At the fringes of this community we have people who genuinely believe in ridiculous bullshit like Flat Earth, Archons, Reptilians, Jesus, etc. Is it ridiculous? Absolutely, but censoring discussion is just going to reinforce the stupidity.
I think people should be allowed to look into what they want. Why fear someone for having an alternative view. If we want to have a presence that is accepted in the wider view of the world we need to demonstrate that we have wisdom and compassion for others.
Censored, no. But every hour's flat earth idiot thread should be instamerged into a daily, sinking, megathread of the highest stupidity. It's been literally proven wrong so many times it's not worth anything more than a brief 5 or 10 minute thought excercise for those who aren't familiar with it.
Whether it is true or not we should not be banning subjects from discussion whatsoever. Might as well just go watch the mainstream Media news if we're going to start doing that shit. If you don't like what's being discussed, here's an idea. DONT FUCKING READ IT. WOW WHAT A CONCEPT.
That's dumb. They aren't harming anyone. Who gives a shit about this sub's credibility when it's constantly plastered with Seth Rich and Pedogate anyways? Who are we trying to impress?
As much as I despise the flat earth stuff, it would be wrong to ban. Freedom is an ideal that needs to be supported and bolstered. Banning things that you don't like is wrong. Even if you know it is stupid, freedom implies that stupidity will be tolerated.
I don't think censorship is the way to go. Yes, the flat earth posts are an obvious attempt to discredit the sub, but once you start censoring, there's no way to draw the line.
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n/a skorponok 2017-05-17
100% agreed, thank you
n/a TheMadQuixotician 2017-05-17
Ignore it and post about something you'd like to discuss. I don't think censorship is a valid option. There are browser add ons for Reddit than can filter content if you don't want to view certain topics
n/a Bruuus 2017-05-17
Banning a conspiracy theory permanently. Don't make me laugh.
n/a No8145 2017-05-17
It's not a conspiracy theory.
n/a Bruuus 2017-05-17
"It's a psyop". There's a false flat earth psyop, yes, but it's run by the govt, not by true flat earthers. The Flat Earth Society is a shill group composed of false shills. Check out the flat earth asshole on youtube
n/a No8145 2017-05-17
Flat earth asshole is a complete idiot who can't grasp basic science. I laughed myself to tears when a friend tried to show me his videos.
According to him, the motive behind NASA faking all this stuff and covering up a flat earth is to "steal your minds". The guy is either a troll, or an extremely vulnerable individual in need of medical attention. I'm going with troll.
n/a gandalfsmagicgaydick 2017-05-17
Not giving sources when you said you would. Don't make me laugh.
n/a joe_jaywalker 2017-05-17
Not a flat earther but 2 points:
I easily see more anti-FE posts on a daily basis than pro-FE posts
For a theory that's "nonsense" to the point you would ban it, I don't often see many good arguments against it. Mostly all I see is "can you believe idiots believe this bullshit?" and other rank ad hominems.
n/a No8145 2017-05-17
The reason you don't see proper arguments is that flat earthers just twist reality / physics until your proof no is no longer applicable.
n/a joe_jaywalker 2017-05-17
Well if there were some pro-globe argument that shot them out of the saddle, they might be forced to stop anyway. I just don't think as many people can be sure of the curvature like they think they are, it's an interesting debate because the "right" side often just appeals to authority when they would seemingly have a big arsenal of decisive proofs.
n/a No8145 2017-05-17
Check my comments below. It is really, really easy to prove the earth is (roughly) spherical.
n/a joe_jaywalker 2017-05-17
Not convincing and I have no reason to think the earth is flat. What would be convincing is if you provided a photo of the support columns of a big bridge being non-parallel like you said. Obviously we can't travel to the poles ether.
n/a No8145 2017-05-17
We can't travel to the poles but we can observe the celestial poles by looking at the sky. You only need to be able to travel between the the northern and southern hemispheres to see them both.
n/a KiwiBattlerNZ 2017-05-17
Of course you want to see that, and consider only that to be proof. The fact that such a photo would be impossible doesn't matter.
That's why people ridicule flat earthers. You demand impossible evidence while denying the evidence that proves you wrong.
Why do I say this? The circumference of earth is over 24,901 miles. Divide 24,901 by 360 and you will find that you would have to travel over 69 miles to travel 1 degree around the earth.
That means two perfectly vertical pillars would need to be over 69 miles apart to see a 1 degree difference in angle. At that distance, if the pillars were 1,000 feet high, the distance between their bases would be 364,320 feet, and the distance between their tops would be 364,337.5 feet a difference of 17.5 feet.
The idea that a single photo would be able to show such a small difference over such a long distance is ludicrous.
n/a joe_jaywalker 2017-05-17
I'm not a flat earther but I'm responding to a person who is saying it's SO EASY to prove the curvature, all you have to do is look at a bridge. And I'm making the point that if it's that easy you could show a picture or something. Guess it's not actually that easy.
n/a KiwiBattlerNZ 2017-05-17
Nope. I have done it more than once. The usual result is for the flat earther to run away from that thread, then post the same bullshit again the next day.
n/a KiwiBattlerNZ 2017-05-17
Bullshit. I personally have disproved flat earth claims time and time again.
Maybe that's all you want to see. The fact is these claims are disproved over and over again, and then some moron posts the same bullshit claim again.
Apparently I have a hell of a lot more patience than most, so I do not mind disproving the same claims over and over again. Other people give up and resort to ridicule.
n/a Flytape 2017-05-17
We aren't banning shit.
Kind regards,
Flytape
n/a enchantrem 2017-05-17
Nothing? Not even claims that the real conspiracy is about pretending there's a conspiracy?
n/a KarmaPolice777 2017-05-17
It's a slipper slope to ban or censor anything. Let the community decide what's true or not based on votes and discourse.
n/a Flytape 2017-05-17
Not banning that point of view either.
n/a dandroid1_0 2017-05-17
I commend your stance. Love it or hate it, it is a very popular topic which attracts hundreds or thousands of comments for and against. And why not? It would be the biggest conspiracy of all time, if true.
Though I'm not sure if mods have anything to do with always hiding it in "controversial", we know NASA has people down-vote anything challenging earth and space narratives, and it makes some people so angry for some reason! Nevertheless, it is worthy of debate and definitely belongs on this sub.
n/a No8145 2017-05-17
There are plenty of other subs for flat earthers.
While many of the things discussed in this sub are speculative and unproven, there is nothing which is even close to Flat earth in terms of being proven 100% wrong on every front.
It does not belong here.
n/a Bruuus 2017-05-17
Prove that you're on a spinning ball
n/a No8145 2017-05-17
There are 2 observable celestial poles on opposite ends of the planet.
Either I'm on a spinning ball, or I'm on a stationary ball that the rest of the universe is spinning around.
Next.
n/a Bruuus 2017-05-17
Show me the curve then
n/a No8145 2017-05-17
OK. Grab a telescope and watch a boat go over the horizon.
Or, find the longest suspension bridge in your part of the world. Use a sprit level or similar to check that the tallest supports are all perfectly vertices. Now, drive a couple of miles away, but still I'm view of the bridge. Are the furthest away supports perfectly parrallel? No? Well how can that be? They are both perfectly vertical.
If these aren't enough, I'll gladly take you on a trip on a space plane to view the curvatur with your own eyes. You'll have to pay for the tickets though.
n/a TheThinGreenLinePod 2017-05-17
Show us the sources that you promised you would post
n/a Awesomo3082 2017-05-17
Behold, the immeasurably willful ignorance of a flathead.
Flathead: "Prove it"
Normal human:. proof
Flathead: "OK. Prove it"
Normal human: "I just did. But here's more proof."
Flathead: "But what about, prove it."
Normal human: "Huh? Ok. Here's another."
Flathead: "No. Prove it. And go back and prove that first thing again."
Normal human: "wtf..."
This is why people ridicule flatheads.
n/a gandalfsmagicgaydick 2017-05-17
Show me the sources then
n/a DonnaGail 2017-05-17
I do not support banning Flat Earthers. This is a subreddit about conspiracies. They have a right to be here, in my opinion.
Just for the record, I am not a Flat Earther or a Round Earther. I admit, I don't know. I only know what I've been told.
n/a sweaty_clitoris 2017-05-17
As René Descartes said, the only thing we can know be to be real is our own conscious thoughts. Doubt everything you think you know, especially your fundamental beliefs. Everything can be manipulated and changed.
The day a conspiracy gets blatantly censored from /r/conspiracy is the day 2017 goes back to 1984.
n/a ring-ring-ring 2017-05-17
Your point of view is not uncommon. It's the main reason our society is so fucked up right now. People have become unable to distinguish the truth from the chaos of lies and misinformation.
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-17
"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
--Someone or another
n/a famishedpanda 2017-05-17
I don't understand what would be gained by lying about it being a sphere shape. Who benefits?
n/a Katayani108 2017-05-17
Just ignore it and it will go away eventually.
n/a vanquish_islam 2017-05-17
I completely agree that flat earth is likely crap and may be a psyop but censorship is worse. For all we know you are a disinfo agent trying to suppress flat earth and it's the very thing that will liberate us. Yea a stretch of the imagination but still we have to allow ideas to flow.
For all we know flat earth psyop was created to get freethinkers to censor ideas so they can convince us to censor other more important and real conspiracies.
n/a John_Dexter 2017-05-17
I also think it's bullshit, but censorship is not the answer. Ignore or refute.
n/a rodental 2017-05-17
Censorship is not the answer. At the fringes of this community we have people who genuinely believe in ridiculous bullshit like Flat Earth, Archons, Reptilians, Jesus, etc. Is it ridiculous? Absolutely, but censoring discussion is just going to reinforce the stupidity.
n/a Tacomano123 2017-05-17
It's a conspiracy, so it fits in this sub.
n/a KiwiBattlerNZ 2017-05-17
No, it's not a conspiracy, but I still see no reason to censor it.
n/a FallenRanger 2017-05-17
I think people should be allowed to look into what they want. Why fear someone for having an alternative view. If we want to have a presence that is accepted in the wider view of the world we need to demonstrate that we have wisdom and compassion for others.
n/a Awesomo3082 2017-05-17
Censored, no. But every hour's flat earth idiot thread should be instamerged into a daily, sinking, megathread of the highest stupidity. It's been literally proven wrong so many times it's not worth anything more than a brief 5 or 10 minute thought excercise for those who aren't familiar with it.
n/a BurninEpix 2017-05-17
God just shut the fuck up already.
Whether it is true or not we should not be banning subjects from discussion whatsoever. Might as well just go watch the mainstream Media news if we're going to start doing that shit. If you don't like what's being discussed, here's an idea. DONT FUCKING READ IT. WOW WHAT A CONCEPT.
n/a Totally_Not_A_Alt 2017-05-17
Banning a topic world go against what this sub stands for.
n/a SquareShapeCloud 2017-05-17
This sub needs to remain an open platform for ideas, however ridiculous and unfounded some of those ideas might be.
n/a soonerchad 2017-05-17
PLEASE NOTE: OP has 3 posts ever and not a single comment ever. What are you trying to hide?
n/a Megatrilobyte 2017-05-17
That's dumb. They aren't harming anyone. Who gives a shit about this sub's credibility when it's constantly plastered with Seth Rich and Pedogate anyways? Who are we trying to impress?
n/a Garbagebutt 2017-05-17
Slippery slope. downvote and move on.
n/a therealsquirrel95 2017-05-17
fuck off
n/a CaucasianEagle 2017-05-17
I recently used the earth shine effect to debunk it. I got nobresponse. Seems like the way to go.
n/a turbo_stormy 2017-05-17
As much as I despise the flat earth stuff, it would be wrong to ban. Freedom is an ideal that needs to be supported and bolstered. Banning things that you don't like is wrong. Even if you know it is stupid, freedom implies that stupidity will be tolerated.
n/a MichelleObamasPenis 2017-05-17
The plan to pollute /r/conspiracy with FEB (Flat Earth Bullshit) is a conspiracy.
n/a ring-ring-ring 2017-05-17
I don't think censorship is the way to go. Yes, the flat earth posts are an obvious attempt to discredit the sub, but once you start censoring, there's no way to draw the line.
n/a NEEK0 2017-05-17
Gonna go with a big NO.