BernieGate
165 2017-05-19 by FilmerandHobbes
Your mods are corrupt. Enjoy living your own living conspiracy.
Since I've been banned from commenting on my own post, I'm taking my ball and going home.
165 2017-05-19 by FilmerandHobbes
Your mods are corrupt. Enjoy living your own living conspiracy.
Since I've been banned from commenting on my own post, I'm taking my ball and going home.
64 comments
n/a loserofpasswordzz 2017-05-19
Great post. Wow.
n/a applextrent 2017-05-19
Once the shills wake up tomorrow they're going to downvote the hell out of this, and attack everyone who comments.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Hope not.
n/a atavisticbeast 2017-05-19
maybe you should spend more time thinking about the post, and less time thinking of scary shill boogeymen.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Beepbopboopbop Shillbot reporting for dooty
n/a Ambiguously_Ironic 2017-05-19
Rule 10, this is your warning.
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-19
The Clinton team announced Rich received an invite to join their team as plausible deniability.
The hit was already placed and they were laying the groundwork of reducing motive.
n/a hellfirenyctophobe 2017-05-19
What do you mean by saying they announced that? Bluetext.
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-19
Look at the July 5th bullet point.
n/a hellfirenyctophobe 2017-05-19
Oh. I thought you meant they announced it as plausible deniability, bit stupid on my part.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Sort of like a Judas kiss/slight-of-hand dealio?
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-19
You got it.
Which is pretty sloppy, now that it's come out that he was team Bernie.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
The family is straight up denying that he was. But you have his social media accounts which were: @pandas4change @pandas4bernie (mom holding panda in press also) a tumblr with education materials pro-Bernie, also a Reddit pandas4bernie in addition to the one referenced. I'm hoping media doesn't ignore this angle. The public would eat it up.
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-19
The parents might be worried about the fate of the other son.
I'm sure the DNC would fight this hard because it absolutely introduces motive.
n/a CinnamonSimpletrix 2017-05-19
That would imply that the DNC is not a corrupt pile of refuse. Did you see the latest election of the head of DNC? Rather than get a new face in there they put in a scumbag who no one liked.
n/a vicefox 2017-05-19
His family denies that he was pro-Bernie?
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Yes. Google hmm <Joel Rich Seth Clinton campaign> and you'll probably find it in an article
Nvm I just went and got it for you. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3741754/Father-murdered-DNC-staffer-reveals-son-join-Hillary-Clinton-presidential-campaign-punching-hole-ugly-rumor-Wikileaks-source.html
Not outright denial but a push to the pro-Clinton camp.
Although it would be interesting if he had turned her down.
n/a vicefox 2017-05-19
Thanks
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
So to narrow down the timeline
June 26- Rich's last tweet - pro Bernie independent run
July 6 - Rich is offered Hillary job - no evidence he takes it.
July 10- Rich shot and killed
July 12- Bernie endorsement of HRC (Jane retweets a Bernie tweet during it "If I ever tell you who to vote for don't listen to me"
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-19
I'd also be curious if the autopsy of Rich (which probably wasn't conducted) showed similar symptoms to Shawn Lucas.
Didn't Rich appear to be "unusually drunk?" If the theory is there that he was poisoned by the bartender, it could've been with the same cocktail as the process server, Lucas.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
This MedAnon said the autopsy report was completed but not available to MedStaff.
Coincidentally, the VP of MedStar Pharmany is a close personal friend of Podesta's wife. There are Wikileaks that show weekend trips, dinners planned over a minimum of 8 months.
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-19
Innnnteresting.
Do you have the link to this thread? I missed all that.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Oh I just looked it up myself. Bonnie Levin is referenced throughout the Wikileaks. She is the "Uber driver" for the "Farmers L" Podesta group.
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-19
Ah say no more.
The thought of her having easy access to drugs is disconcerting.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Indeed.
n/a sketchy_at_best 2017-05-19
Not a troll...I thought Medanon had been discredited as using incorrect medical terms/not consistent with timeline? Plus it was on 4chan, so LARPING is always a huge possibility.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
No. But don't take my word for it. Decide for yourself: http://archive.is/YVECV
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-19
I'd also look into all of the articles concerning the Bernie data breach.
1) Because it painted the Clinton camp as victims of wrongdoing, the media will have reported on it truthfully (what a novel concept).
2) Podesta emails exist on this topic. Unfortunately I suspect emails related to Seth Rich were scrubbed from the WL drop, much like the Clinton emails. Probably part of Assange's insurance file.
n/a YoshiTakimatsui 2017-05-19
If Assange is not forth coming with any bombshell info he's nothing more then a gatekeeper.
n/a CloudyMN1979 2017-05-19
The guy who can't even go outside is a gatekeeper?
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Apologies for random formatting. I'm not used to formatting and the wall of text was too much.
n/a ridestraight 2017-05-19
Excellent work! Thank you for posting this timeline.
n/a BuddhistSC 2017-05-19
can someone tldr this? that's a whole lot of shit and i'm having trouble skimming any meaning out of it
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
IMHO, my current theory is that Clinton lifted the firewalls on herself to get at Bernie's data, then blamed Bernie for the glitch and used it to get him cut off from the data. Interviewing the guy who went down for it, he seems utterly baffled.
n/a WarmCrumb 2017-05-19
Great Work. Keep building.
n/a atavisticbeast 2017-05-19
I wish this was sourced.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Every line was taken from easily available and google able news articles. The only tough one was the DNC employee records.
n/a atavisticbeast 2017-05-19
"just google it"
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
No I literally compiled this list by people saying "didn't this happen.." Googling for less than 10 seconds, cross referencing with opposite posts and then summarizing results. You probably didn't even read it.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
This is my 6th day awake. I'm not redoing any more.
n/a atavisticbeast 2017-05-19
get some sleep man, seriously. you gotta take care of yourself....
(i also have terrible insomnia, so i can understand whereas most people will never know what multiple days without sleep feels like)
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
n/a gatekeepr 2017-05-19
I didn't know stonetear asked reddit's help on other occasions than the wipe. He strikes me as rather incompetent, surprises me he got the job.
n/a Homonoetic 2017-05-19
Smartest guy in the room is the room.
n/a XDiabolusExMachinaX 2017-05-19
Nah the real left conspiracies place Bernie Sanders on the payroll of the Kremlin as well along with people who left the DNC this past year for him.
Not one person has given me a valid reason as to how Seth rich gained access to private emails.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Reason = inferring cause or motive
How = deducting method
Your question just doesn't make sense to me.
n/a XDiabolusExMachinaX 2017-05-19
My question?
n/a RocketSurgeon22 2017-05-19
I don't lean 1 way or the other on this topic but have a question. Most executive administrators have access to both private and corporate email of their boss since they manage schedules and help them prioritize. Often people like Podesta have their hands in many things so it makes sense to centralize through 1 admin.
Could it be that his gmail account was linked to his corporate account and therefore it was sitting on the same server?
n/a XDiabolusExMachinaX 2017-05-19
Well AFAIK he wasn't a systems admin. He was an app maker. I don't see how him having an email, corporate or otherwise gives him "access" to other people's emails.
I'm no computer expert but I'm pretty sure a lot of servers would have their own terminal for access and use specific microsoft software.
Don't see why he would ever need to access that even as his title suggests.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
I personally don't think he accessed the emails. I do think he helped create the voter info breach in Dec 2015 as it was mostly his info in the first place and he discovered that Bernie voters were being sent to incorrect voting locations via his app
n/a XDiabolusExMachinaX 2017-05-19
I mean you'd have to have a massive data company like cambridge analytica to surgically target people who intend to vote for bernie in a primary then use that data and apply it to only people using that app.
Doesn't add up to me.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Seth created the app and was having significant workplace problems with higher ups over it.
That makes a lot of sense if you consider Bernie's claims about primary rigging.
n/a XDiabolusExMachinaX 2017-05-19
Where's the source for this?
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Assange specifically said the person who dropped off the DNC emails did not get the emails directly but got them legally.
Murry said he met and received emails from Seth on May 21, 2016. I.e. Seth had help
n/a RocketSurgeon22 2017-05-19
Murry is credible and some sort of leak broker? Sounds like a fun gig.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Are you saying he isn't?
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Are you saying he isn't?
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Are you saying he isn't?
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Are you saying he isn't?
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Are you saying he isn't?
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Are you saying he isn't? If you're serious, I kind of disagree lol.
n/a RocketSurgeon22 2017-05-19
I honestly don't know anything about him. Is he the guy that passed away?
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
No he's a current living Wikileaks director.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Are you saying he isn't? If you're serious, I kind of disagree lol.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Are you saying he isn't? If you're serious, I kind of disagree lol.
n/a Iamamansass 2017-05-19
Wow! Great timeline. Look forward to more from you!
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Thanks I enjoy this sub a lot but generally lurk.
n/a XDiabolusExMachinaX 2017-05-19
Is Occam razoring this thing an option?
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
What is simpler- that the Russians infiltrated the DNC for over a year?
Or one kid, disillusioned with corrupt politicians was killed for raising a firewall and trying to level the playing field.
n/a XDiabolusExMachinaX 2017-05-19
Bernie supporters online act exactly like Trump supporters.
No one is saying they had complete control of either candidate. All they need at some point to see a lifting of sanctions.
You keep attacking me because I won't follow your exact narrative on a conspiracy subreddit.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Seems like you've got an ingrained narrative of your own.
n/a XDiabolusExMachinaX 2017-05-19
Still no proof?
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Yup. The entire post and supporting links came to me from nightly gremlins.
n/a XDiabolusExMachinaX 2017-05-19
It's a very good timeline of corruption. I just think the act of looking into Seth Rich opened a lot of other doors that were previously not seen. Did you know that Bernie Sander's wife is under investigation for bank fraud? Dang. Something is up.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Woah, no kidding? What kind of bank fraud?
... And did the investigation start before July 12 -_-
And yeah. PizzaGate was like an engine primer for a lot of people. The amount of eye squinting I've been doing around the DNC is enough to know somebody ought to be going to jail.
Like, Trump is a dick, but I honestly don't think he has the capacity for a web of subterfuge like this. If Russia DID hack the DNC to help him win, I think it's simply because it was in Russia's best interest to have a not-Hillary candidate.
Not that that is a good thing. I just think people underestimate the amount of work deep conspiracies and crime orgs (like the DNC and related persons) take to research, much less plan and commit.
n/a XDiabolusExMachinaX 2017-05-19
https://www.rt.com/usa/387629-jane-sanders-investigation-burlington/
I don't know what media you'd believe. She was president of some college from 2004 to 2011 when it happened. Bernie bought some houses.
See, the thing about Trump... I'm not granting him the intelligence you give him. Sure he has flashes but, I think he would be dumb enough to get himself compromised or be an unwitting agent.
See the thing is there was a "hack" the, podesta emails right? Which people claim wasn't hacked due to a shit password(pun intended). Still, someone targeted and got them and published his emails. They blame Russian paid hackers. Which opened up a whole bunch of new doors into why is he so chummy with Russia. We've gotten this far without them and he campaigned on American communism.
n/a RueKing 2017-05-19
George Webb could use your help.
https://youtu.be/xOuYa7zY6r8
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
He can come find me.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Update: I've now been banned from The_Donald and my posts in several subreddit including T_D have been permenantly deleted. I'm a top poster in T_D and the moderators were removed by Reddit admin shortly before my posts were deleted.
And they say T_D is crazy for thinking Reddit is out to get them.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
This MedAnon said the autopsy report was completed but not available to MedStaff.
Coincidentally, the VP of MedStar Pharmany is a close personal friend of Podesta's wife. There are Wikileaks that show weekend trips, dinners planned over a minimum of 8 months.
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
The family is straight up denying that he was. But you have his social media accounts which were: @pandas4change @pandas4bernie (mom holding panda in press also) a tumblr with education materials pro-Bernie, also a Reddit pandas4bernie in addition to the one referenced. I'm hoping media doesn't ignore this angle. The public would eat it up.
n/a YoshiTakimatsui 2017-05-19
If Assange is not forth coming with any bombshell info he's nothing more then a gatekeeper.
n/a atavisticbeast 2017-05-19
"just google it"
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Beepbopboopbop Shillbot reporting for dooty
n/a FilmerandHobbes 2017-05-19
Seems like you've got an ingrained narrative of your own.