I'm voting for Jack.

In the thought experiment the voting is over. Please read again and answer the question.

Don't you tell me what to do! I'm voting for Jack... John is literally Hitler.

I'm literally shaking. You need a trigger warning ^/s

That's my secret... I'm always triggered.

I get what you are saying, but it kind of detracts from the comment section if I am being honest.

If my silly horseshit is detracting from the rest of this topic then the conversation going on elsewhere in this thread must be super shitty.

Let me put it like this:

if the media was saying "John is very much like Hitler and his supporters are all the same", would you think that represented a fair and balanced media? Or should even the media represent the fact that the election was so close, so their output shouldn't be so one sided.

I don't care! I already made up my mind long ago... I'm a firm Jack supporter and always will be... no matter what. #NotMyJohn

If #NotMyJohn started trending and all mainstream media seemed to be trying to make it viral, wouldn't you find that hypocritical of a supposedly "independent" media that is supposed to reflect what the people want. That John/Jack election was close.

The media is just made up of humans like me... if I can't stop worrying and learn to love the John... why should I expect them to do any better? They are just people... biased little hairless monkeys.

I work with kids. Knowing that, I need to be more careful. I can't swear, tell dirty jokes, etc...

People who work in the media should be held to the same standards. They should go out of their way to act differently as part of their job. They can have any opinions they want, but that should be separated from what they present to the public.

Yeah... but if all your coworkers started swearing in front of the kids and all got huge raises for it... then you might think swearing in front of the kids was a good idea too.

Yes, I agree. And I am pointing out that this is a problem.

I think the fact that our elections are all really so close out of like 130 million people voting shows the whole democrat/republican system is doing it's job at keeping is divided.

Thank you for being the only person out of 4 who actually said something relevant to the thought experiment.

You can get 27 hits in baseball and still lose to the team that hits one home run.

This has nothing to do with the thought experiment.

The question is not about why or how one person won.

Not understanding how you win, and deciding you win by something else shows poor judgement and understanding. Why should anyone care about the opinions of people with poor judgement. Given the chance they will use poor judgement and totally ruin something.

Why should anyone care about the opinions of people with poor judgement.

"Poor judgement" is an abstract concept that depends of opinions.

I'm guessing you have never talked with any teenagers, if you had you would know poor judgement is an actual thing that really happens.

Of course it is. But it is too hard to maintain such a black and white description of "poor judgement" when being faced to vote for a stupid lunatic or a deranged psycho.

Was George Washington a traitor or a patriot?

One man's stupid lunatic is another man's hero.

I vote no one. No one cars. No will save you. No one gives a shit.

Whether you personally believe in voting has nothing to do with the thought experiment.

Sure it does. You should probably rethink things...

In the thought experiment I wrote, the voting is over. The question has nothing to do with the whether or not voting is real, manufactured, or a mind trick.

The question is about two numbers and what they reflect, and what the media should reflect based on those two numbers.

That is the question.

Should the losers be marginalized? Sure, they lost....

So you think that in a very close election like that, that the media should act like the entire country is mainly Jack supporters? Or would you expect a fair and independent media to still represent both sides?

Both sides have their own media channels....

Yet only one side seems to be reaching the masses. And that side seems to be trying its best to convince everyone that John supporters are an angry and disruptive minority.

One side is actually doing that, though.... You speak that one side is creating something that doesn't exist, but it does (ie. Antifa and "protests").

I think a small minority of crazy people exist on both sides. I think that is an accurate reflection of reality.

It's not a small minority, though.

/thought experiment

What side are you saying has a larger majority of crazies? Trump's side or the anti-Trump side?

Trump's side or the anti-Trump side

...um...

I don't want to hear about who you think it is referring to, either of them.

???

Thats why I wrote

/ thought experiment (end thought experiment)

I am genuinely interested in what you are saying and I cannot tell which side you are saying has more crazies. The assumption would be that you are saying Trump's side has more crazies (because that is the narrative that the media is shoving down our throats). But maybe I am wrong and you are saying something else.

Both "sides" have crazies (one more than the other - which would be the left, imo), and both "sides" media say who/what they are. It's all a smoke and mirrors. I could give two shits, and so should you.

I am surprised so many people missed what I wrote.

Trump got 63 million votes. Hillary got 65 million votes.

I see the mainstream media and reddit acting like Trump is Hitler and all of his supporters are raving lunatics.

I wonder how such a one-sided narrative was formed when the popular vote was so close. Sure, more people voted for Clinton, but barely more.

This is a different part of Reddit, where for the most part don't give a shit or play into the two party paradigm? Did you lose your way skipping down a trail in the woods?

Sure. And ten million of the total votes do not count...now what?

I don't follow?

I think the media should cater to both John and Jack's voters and their opinions. All the voter's opinions matter, even though there was only 1 winner. So reporting should be fair and show all sides.

terrible experiment for an election that had multiple candidates, not just 2.

Try again with Jack, John, Jill and Gary... Then who is "marginalized" and what is "manufactured"

Don't you tell me what to do! I'm voting for Jack... John is literally Hitler.

If #NotMyJohn started trending and all mainstream media seemed to be trying to make it viral, wouldn't you find that hypocritical of a supposedly "independent" media that is supposed to reflect what the people want. That John/Jack election was close.

Was George Washington a traitor or a patriot?

One man's stupid lunatic is another man's hero.