Isn't it fishy that Trump sold Saudi billions worth of arms and, in turn, Saudi donated 100 million dollars to Ivanka Jr's foundation? Isn't this the same shit HRC was doing?

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Also why is Jarred Kushner flying around with Trump like a shot caller?

And what was up with that pure gold baller necklace?

https://tribktla.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/gettyimages-685748534.jpg?quality=85&strip=all&strip=all

And why is Trump wearing a Yamica?

This looks like some Zion swamp shit to me. Of course, it could be 4d chess or they have a gun to his head but it's not looking good.

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We don't tolerate Trump criticism in this sub.

Can you not post shit like this?

Because you asked. Okay.

Removed rule 10

Yes, it's the same shit HRC was doing. They're two sides of the same coin.

About time people finally realize that.

I don't think it necessarily has to be that people didn't realize. Maybe he was a true dude and then the controllers controlled him.

If you didn't realize this before November, you weren't paying attention.

This is what I think is plausible. But at the same time, it's like they let him in without his knowledge because they knew he would be more easily controlled them someone like Clinton who is probably senile right now. I don't think Trump knew it going in, or maybe he did and thought he could contain it when president.

Oh my god

Dude is still getting conned, can't even see it when it's staring him in the face

Is he a brilliantly successful con man or a bumbling idiot? I can't keep the talking points straight.

To get the conservative vote, all he had to do was run with aren't r next to his name, to get the ignorant, uneducated, and racist vot all he had to do was convince them they were superior, worldly, well read and forward thinking.

It's not hard for an idiot to be a conman if the people he's targeting are even bigger idiots.

He's conning bumbling idiots.

You consider trump University wildly successful?

I consider successfully getting elected President despite almost the entire political and media establishment working for your opponent to be wildly successful.

he was such an honest man before he became president wasnt he?

Been saying this from the start. Everyone who runs for president is

And if there wasn't such a great cover up when it came to Clinton then Trump would no doubt be less able to do likewise.

Except it's NOT. It's NOT going to her or anyone with control of it.

I approve.

Oh no, hillary is doing it -> shut up you, this is all in good faith, we would never have to investigate the clintons....

Oh, Ivanka fund raises for a world bank fund for women? -> OMG, the same thing hillary did.

If you read the article, Ivanka is as associated with the fund as Paris hilton is with making perfume. Does she do it? yep. has she access to or is she able to controll where the funds go? Nope. Thgus, all ivanka does is justify why she gets to fly on daddys private jet.

The fairest response would be to deliver exactly the same public outcry and retort as to hillaries fundation making millions:

None.

Maybe then certain people and professional outrage peddlers learn that if you try to errect a double standart, it bites you in the ass. Untill the same people cry to throw hillary on the electric chair untill she gives us the full books of the clinton foundation, and what the money was used for (Or, you know, demand any investiagtion at all):

Ivanka is an airheaded young woman, who may have attached some fundraising to get free trips, but she has outraised Clinton threefold.

If you are pissed that a young woman is an airhead yet managed to outraise your hope for president, here is the door, here is the safespace, here is a blanket to cover your fee fees.

Maybe the next time a democratic candidate has a nonprofit, you learn to apply the same rules there.

In the meantime:

Ivanka, you may be an airhead, but you outraised Hillary clinton threefold. That is like playing the same on super hard mode, and crushing the highscore. An archievement on its own.

Irespectthat.

Lol an airhead? misogyny and sexist really describes your post. SAD!

But, is it true?

Not a single crime has been committed, She has outraised Clinton on the same turf 1:3, and she did it not for her own pet slushfund, but rather for a world bank controlled fund that she is not able to touch.

If I showed hillary clinton I am a boss like that, you could call me a fat retard to my face, my only reply would be, "3 to one, threeee, to one, neeener neener neener, three to 1..."

Plus, if you actually consider airhead an insult, I would consider it a fact of life.

She is not like you and me. her financial stability is so big, all you can do is go hrm, I really wish I had that. She is at the point in life where she does not have to worry about money, she has fuck it money. That brings with it that you are not like ordinary people, you are not standing with both feet in the grind, hitting that 9-5, that means you loose a bit of that every day spirit, that idea of where precisely you are. Like an airhead, floating 15 cm above ground.

BUT, and this is important, not only does she outraise clinton 3:1 on feminism issues, she has her own brand, has written multiple books, has a husband, her own home, 3 children , she has found religion, AND she does all of this without a single paid dollar, most likely to give the first lady an opportunity to not stand in a rain of flashlights and give little barron a chance to have at least something resembling a childhood and help her father.....

It is interresting to be disturbed by the allegation of being an airhead. You could not do what she does and retain a functional braincell. You would break apart at the age of 30, and be done with it.

So, by all accounts, she may not have the best brain and be a bit floaty, but what more then makes up for that is the fact that on the one side, she has 740 Million dollars of self worth to weigh her down, while on the othere side, she has a heart big enough to indulge in typical rich person hobbies and have a relatively quiet life, and to instead seat herself to the right of her father, and despite media protests, sit it out to make life a bit easier for herself, her father, her mother and baron.

You'd have to have only a couple of functioning braincells to not take the easy way out of that, and opt for the comfy life. She doesn't. As long as she is comfortably standing and does not have trouble breathing and swallowing at the same time, she has done more in her life then either me or you ever will.

SAD!

Mysoginist and sexist, or mysogyny and sexism.

Thank you. The stupidity of some of the people on this board is baffling.

I personally suspect that a non-negligible fraction of this "stupidity" is Share Blue propaganda.

Don't be daft, it's quid pro quo all the same.

The world bank is the most corrupt organization in the world. You're a joke.

It isn't the same thing...

No it's not, Chelsea is a fucking duck, Ivanka is smokin hot, so...

lol.

Not the same, this $100 million donation went to the World Bank Fund, not Trump's fund.

I don't know how this got voted to the top. Regardless of your opinion on Trump or Clinton, it's a fundamentally different situation.

  • Ivanka has no role, directly or indirectly, in the operation of this fund. It's run by the World Bank. (We could have a conversation on the World Bank, Trump, and globalism, but this is not that.)
  • HRC was intimately involved in the Clinton Foundation. They actively sought donations, were involved the the disbursement of funds, and Bill and Chelsea were on the board.

You don't even have to think HRC did anything unethical regarding the CF; these scenarios are still not analogous in the least. With CF, there was at least the potential for the appearance of a conflict of interest. What's the conflict of interest here?

When I said that both HRC and Trump are two sides of the same coin I meant that they're both globalist pawns. It's arguable that Trump may not have been one initially (I really do believe that at some point he actually had good intentions for the American people) but now the deep state has him by the balls and they aren't letting go. He's doomed.

Of course there are many differences between HRC and Trump and I would take a Trump presidency over a Clinton one any day but we both know that presidents don't run the show. HRC is a literal psychopath though so I suppose this is one major difference between the two but they're both on a tight chain, sadly.

It's the exact same.

Well, Trump is a little different.

How? He's still fucking you, he's just not hiding it.

Smaller hands

lower energy.

BURN!

Wait, we're making small hands jokes here now and they are being upvoted? What in the FUCK is this petty, partisan bullshit doing in /r/conspiracy?

Shills, that's what.

The people have spoken!

But I'm sure you didn't speak out about petty partisan bullshit when the donald took over this sub and used it for their own means. Oh no that was juuuust fine.

I don't believe that /r/The_Donald ever took over the subreddit. I believe that the people pushing that line are mostly Share Blue employees.

There is a natural overlap between the audiences of these subreddits because there is reason to believe that Donald Trump is attempting to destroy the NWO/Deep State.

Now, not everybody believes that to be true, but there are still a number of reasons to believe it is possible. That doesn't mean /r/The_Donald is taking over. Trump supporters are welcome to use this subreddit just like anyone else. They are just not allowed to shitpost memes or call people cucks. So what?

I see way more comments like yours WHINING about /r/The_Donald than I do comments that look like they belong there.

For one the media hates Trump. Obama received nothing but praise from the media. Clinton would have been treated even better.

He was far from loved by the media, the Left media, yeah. The right hated him. The right loves Trump and hated Obama. It's their corporate bias and their attempts to create division.

Yeah, dumbass es actually voted that orange dumb Fuck into office

You realize the branch of comments your replying to indicates it wouldn't make a difference who got voted in right? No reason to be salty

dumbass es

It's not even close. The WORLD BANK gets it. Read before you make uninformed posts.

Feeding the same evil.

World Bank, do you Donald cheerleader know which subreddit you are on? Are you seriously asking why a conspiracy subreddit would be up in arms about support to the world fucking bank and SA.

In case someone is interested, start with Confession of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins, then comb the reference list then come back and act like the World Bank is nothing to be worried about.

I don't think that many here like the World Bank. But this thread is not about that. Not at all.

This is about a new wave of propaganda defending the Clinton fundation. In the last few days everywhere in this site you can see people saying how HRC did no wrong and how her fundation was legit, one of the best with the same copy pasted stats and links.

To be fair,

What's the source of the Saudi funding Ivanka's fund thing? I've seen people mention it but not seen a link anywhere

It is one of those stories carried by all the national propaganda news but probably not mentioned on Fox or any of the conservative providers.

You really think they'd report something that they highly criticized HRC for? That doesn't fit their agenda.

Do the Trumps control the fund or work for the fund? Oh they don't you say? This is a non-story.

It is propaganda.

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Not sure why, but your comment was removed. I approved it, but might check for shadowban.

BUT Trumps different!

If stuff like that is what you're using to gauge his differences from the establishment then you're lost.

yamica

Yarmulke*

You're right, it would be fishy. If it happened.

It didn't.

It didn't!?

Oh, thanks for clearing that up.

What does this even mean, next are you going to dispute the date?

Fucking finally! Some consistency! It's all I really want, haha.

Don't question the God Emperor. You must have faith. This is 4D chess.

Why would a 70 year old con man not be conning people?

It's like...all he's ever done. It's his entire track record. Why on Earth would he not be equally as dirty as any of the dirtiest politicians?

Please tell me you aren't fucking surprised.

you probably think retail stores are out to screw you too.

"They put the fresher milk at the back of the cooler so you buy the halfway spoiled stuff!"

Why in earth would I think that? Retail stores are simply out to make a profit, like any store.

Now if there was one particular store with an elderly long time owner who had a life long track record of selling garbage products, blatant lying to employees and customers, bullying people with lawyers, and not paying his workers, then yea, maybe I wouldn't trust that specific retail store with my business.

Get the gist darlin'?

Does he have blood on his hands? Srs question...

he does now after the botched raid that killed those children.

Sorry which one is it? The one in Afghanistan?

Tragic...

A tangential note, but it's unnerving that there might be people out there who have the power to get me killed and brush it under the rug.

There are so many working parts involved in that, so many people that'd have to be complicit to keep the whole thing going...if the Clinton body count is real, then that just points to the whole system being fucked. How does something like that get undone even?

He will as president

I'm not sure, does blood from the pieces of scalp get ripped out of his ex wife while he raped her count?

Source please? The only "raping his ex-wife" I'm familiar with is the claim his ex made during divorce court that she admitted she lied about out of spite.

I'm willing to accept that I am mistaken on this, but I'd like to see the evidence.

Uh, she never admitted she lied about it. She changed her mind about what she meant when she said she felt raped.

Again, can you please give me a source, I'd like to learn more about it.

I've thought about this a lot and he most likely has blood on his hands. The properties he's built in 3rd world and developing countries have had numerous fatalities due to poor work conditions during construction.

That's not quite the same as suiciding someone to be fair

Be surprised if he didn't. He has known mob ties. There is no way you can be connected to the mob, be a billionaire, and not have blood on your hands.

The funds are going to a world bank empowerment fund for women, not a charity Ivanka's created. There could be something shady going on but I don't see s direct connection.

Hillary was running a sham, and investing in places where she was starting wars. Perhaps they just see Ivanka as a good investment?

Yes

an organization to empower women through the world bank.. doesnt sound like it is run by ivanka because it is the world bank

So we like the world bank now? Or only when Trump likes it?

of course not.. but it is completely different than the clinton foundation.. i was jus sayin

Whatever happened to this? I mean they are legitimately admitting to using funds for personal use.

The gold necklace is an award for him becoming a Vassal of Saudi Arabia which basically means he will put the lives of his citizen's at risk in defense of Saudi Arabia. The constitution forbids foreign titles for exactly this reason. Obama did the same thing. I think you should be impeached and tried for treason if you pledge loyalty to someone above the U.S. while serving as a President.

This is ridiculous, a person's character is not decided based on what jewlery is worn or given to him/her to be worn.

If a sitting president ever pledged loyalty to another nation over U.S ofcourse that would be treason and should immediately be impeached but this is not the case.

The constitution literally states:

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
Cut this shit out. This was foreseen.

That's quite interesting, but still doesn't mean it is impeachable or treasonous.

Perhaps it was cleared by congress? I assume gifts are exchanged at every diplomatic meeting.

Gifts are exchanged, but not title. I think you're trying to make a defense without what-about-ism which is admirable. Yet, you don't really have a point, do you? Congress passed no bills allowing this, I assure you. This is because I have reviewed all the bills submitted in Congress and none of them permitted this.

It's not Ivanka's fund, shes not a director, management, shes not even a spokes person. She doesn't choose or personally gain anything of the 100mm.

Why would you read all the bills to congress without looking into the world bank and who runs it..

I'm well aware who runs it & who benefits from it. Do you want to say who runs it? I'd love some truth here.

He's exposing how it's not "ivanka's" world bank globalist fund. So who is running it since you're so well aware?

Israel. Donald Trump is a puppet of Israel. I can zero-vote you too, if you'd like, T_D cult members.

I'd ask for a source but why feed the shills?

Weak. Remember the United Way scandal in the 90's? When 85% and up of it's revenue went to 'administrative fees"? LOL

That's nothing to do with Ivanka though.

However it sounds identical to the Clinton Foundation business plan.

No. It really doesn't. This money is going to the World Bank, not Ivanka's own "charity".

This is because I have reviewed all the bills submitted in Congress and none of them permitted this.

You reviewed the 5,140 submitted every year? Im sorry but that is highly dubious unless you are an advanced AI.

r/totallynotrobots
I've been looking at the major bills. Your point is fair I haven't read every bill word for word.

I can accept that. Thanks for the clarification.

Go away ShariBlue

Really? You're gonna go against the fucking Constitution? So you're just an enemy to our Republic then?

Vassal of Saudi Arabia

I'm pretty sure you just made that title up...

Do you have a point? With facts, even? Feel free to read something sometime.

My point is, how can he given a title that literally no one but you and a guy on voat(which might be you, who knows) claim exist?

He was given a title and the acceptance of the necklace is the point in his accepting it when he bowed to the Saudi Royals. He is a Vassal of Saudi Arabia.

He was given a title

You keep saying this, but literally no one but you has even mentioned such a title, not just for this event, but it ever existing.

Right now it's like if he went to Norway and you claimed he became the Jarl of Iflyflorerla, a non-existant thing.

Can you at least prove such a title was given(more than you saying it was) and the use of the title in other events and even a single other person given such a title?

He was conferred a title by the terrorist-funding government of Saudi Arabia. That's a fact.

Stop saying it happened and prove it happened. Do you understand the difference?

Prove he was given a title, prove that the title even exists. That's all.

He bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia and accepted an award. How are you refuting this?

He accept a necklace and bowed, where is the title part?

I'm not going to stop asking until you prove this claim of yours. I know /r/conspiracy is used to putting things out their ass but not this time.

Can you or can you not prove he was given a title?

The term "Vassal of Saudi Arabia" exists no where in that. It doesn't even mention anything about a title.

Let's just cut to the chase. He was not given a title of any sort. Obviously.

You and I know this, but I'm nailing him on this point he straight made up.

There's really not much room to argue otherwise.

Looks like they gave up. Well done

Dude it's not gonna happen, he won't, just move on

He didn't bow. He had to lower his head so the guy could put the necklace on him because Trump is >6' tall. If it was a real bow, it would have been accompanied by kissing the ring, which never happened.

And it's not an award. It's a gift for showing up. Kinda like when you go to a dinner party, you bring a bottle of wine. The wine isn't an award for anything. Neither is the necklace.

Can you provide any source, link, anything at all, that proves that him accepting the necklace means he's also accepted whatever title you claim it infers?

And remember, it's not up to me or the other commenter. Burden of proof is always on the claimant. Claimant in this case is you.

When Shareblue makes up a phrase they hope with catch on.

Except it was the same song and dance when Obama went to SA and "bowed" before the king. It was all, "Obama just subordinated himself to a foreign nation; he's a secret muslim traitor!" I'm happy to call it bs on both occasions, but let's not pretend that the dem critique is anything new.

The gold necklace is an award for him becoming a Vassal of Saudi Arabia which basically means he is committing to put the lives of his citizens at risk in defense of Saudi Arabia.

What are you talking about?

Google "trump receives gold chain"
1st result: http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/05/20/trump-saudi-gold-medal-collar-of-abdulaziz-al-saud-newday.cnn
Google "Collar of Abdulaziz Al Saud"
1st result: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_King_Abdulaziz
"The order is awarded to citizens of Saudi Arabia and foreigners for meritorious service to the Kingdom. The Council of Ministers makes the nominations but the King confers awards to foreigners himself when he determines it to be appropriate."

Notable Recipients:

Donald J. Trump - President of the United States of America, Collar of Abdulaziz Al Saud (20 May 2017)[17]
Theresa May – Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (6 April 2017)[18]
Narendra Modi – Prime Minister of India, Order of Abdulaziz Al Saud (Special Class, 3 April 2016)[19]
Jacob Zuma – President of South Africa (March 2016)[20]
Xi Jinping - President of the People's Republic of China, medal of King Abdulaziz (20 January 2016)[21]
Enrique Peña Nieto – President of Mexico, Order of Abdulaziz Al Saud (Special Class, 17 January 2016)
Joko Widodo - Indonesian President, medal of King Abdulaziz (First Class, September 2015)[22]
Abdel Fattah el-Sisi – Egyptian President, medal of King Abdulaziz (First Class; August 2014)[23]
François Hollande - Former President of France, (Special Class, 30 December 2013)
David Cameron – Former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom (November 2012)[24]
Najib Tun Razak – Malaysia Prime Minister, medal of King Abdulaziz (First Class, 19 January 2010)[25]
Silvio Berlusconi – Former Prime Minister of Italy, Order of Abdulaziz Al Saud (First Class; 22 November 2009)[26]
Barack Obama – Former President of the United States, King Abdul Aziz Order of Merit (June 2009)[27]
Mohammad Al Jasser – Saudi minister, medal of King Abdulaziz (First Class; May 2009)[28]
George W. Bush – Former President of the United States, medal of King Abdulaziz (First Class; 14 January 2008)[1]
Shinzō Abe – Prime Minister of Japan, Order of Abdulaziz Al Saud (Special Class; April 2007)[29]
Vladimir Putin - President of Russia (2007)[30]
Sabah Al Khalid Al Sabah – Kuwaiti royal and politician, medal of King Abdulaziz (First Class)[31]
Edmond Leburton – Former Prime Minister of Belgium

It's not her foundation. And you wear a yarmulke to show respect I guess. I wouldn't wear one though.

Probably gonna want to google "yamulke" bro.

Isn't it to show that God is above you?

Ok, sorry for the late reply. Yes to the respect thing. Let me explain why I pointed you to google. The pic above only shows Trump with the Saudi king. It kinda look like he's wearing a Yamulke. I thought op was cracking a joke because of Trump's funky hair and the fact you would not wear a Yamulke when meeting with a Muslim King. However I see some pics now on other posts of Trump at the Holocaust memorial in Yamulke and that for sure was done out of respect. I did not see any pics of Trump at the memorial or any mention by op that he was referring to a separate event from the one listed above, hence my recommendation for google. I thought you were assuming he wore a Yamulke to show respect to the Saudis, hence my sarcasm. Sorry for the confusion.

It's all good I was kinda confused by you pointing that out lol. Yeah he wore the yarmulke to the western wall not Riyahd. Wearing one to greet the House of Saud would go over about as well as a turd in a punchbowl.

You would not be allowed to approach the wall then.

That's fine I'd look at it from across the way lol

I don't see any difference. If someone has actual evidence as to how it's different, I'm all ears.

Just wait until you guys figure out that Mar A Lago, the place where Trump spends his weekends, is where Jerry Epstein is supposed to have met one of his victims.

I've heard Trump evicted him from Mar A Lago for his behavior, can you confirm/deny?

He knew Epstein for 15 years or more before he got caught at Mar-A-Lago. Sounds like Trump needed to save face.

Sounds like you're reaching in order to push your agenda.

I will also note that if it was a face-saving move, it wasn't one followed by the rest of the elite, who still continue to embrace Epstein with open arms. Doesn't really make any sense at all to try and save face in light of that, does it?

lol I'm reaching? But you just gloss over the fact they had 15 years of friendship and Trump is in Epstein's little black book?

lol I'm reaching?

Yes, you are.

But you just gloss over the fact they had 15 years of friendship and Trump is in Epstein's little black book?

Not glossing over. Friends or acquaintances, they ran in the same circles. And then when it was revealed that Epstein was a child sex offender, Trump did what most people would do and cut ties. I don't find this curious, it's the absolute expected response in this situation, what most people I know would do.

I do find it curious that no other elites followed suit, and that you are still trying to twist the distancing somehow while ignoring that EVERYONE else didn't even both to cut ties, and still associate freely and warmly. I'd like you to explain your thought process on this particular bit, if you would.

I had a coworker/boss/friend for 20 years. I found out that he is a pedophile and I quit the company shortly after. I dropped that friendship like a hot potato. I suspect that President Trump is the same way. Epstein probably didn't show him proof and when he did he got the boot.

The same Mar A Lago where the POTUS sells memberships to hang out with him and hob knob with foreign dignitaries.

That necklace thing certainly does look fishy

Nothing really changes.

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss." -The Who

Are you all retarded? It's not going to her fund.

Worst, it's going to the World Bank.

This is all for the public eye. What we see is not always what's perceived to be.

I want American assets blasted. I want full force. I want a full frontal assalt. What can America do?

A White House official stressed to The Washington Post that while Ivanka helped inspire the idea, she will not be involved in soliciting funds. “This is not a White House fund. This is not something that she will have any authority over in any way,” the official said. The initiative was first mentioned publicly by German Chancellor Angela Merkel during the panel, though a Trump administration official credited Ivanka for raising the idea during a meeting with World Bank President Jim Yong Kim.

"A white house official"

So much "news" has reports from these people

not as much as that guy called anonymous source.

Yeah, but the difference is one is believable and the other isn't.

What's happening is so fucking obvious that it's crazy a conspiracy subs just shrugs its shoulders

It's almost like journalists try to protect their sources. The insanity!

Please - we have seen the media ignore plenty of stories.. Google Awan Brothers or Eric Braverman..

I should have been more clear: each is accepted by the side it benefits

I wasn't saying anything about ignoring stories. Just that people ignore/ call it fake news. I will google that though

As opposed to Anonymous 4chan user, which is equal to gods word on this sub

Thank christ i'm not the only one who feels this way about screenshots of anonymous 4chan posts being the new gospel

He's not deep state, kushner is Zionist/luciferian deep state, ivanka isn't far behind. I say 4d chess still, I have my reasons. Trump knows what he's up against, HRC is an antichrist who's fund is a scan. No one's donating after she lost, if it was for the needy that shit wouldn't happen. I voted for Hillary but say 4d chess, just to show nonpartisanship, I have my reasons.

Did anyone expect things not to run as they were? Different face, different voice same outcome.

Not sure if anyone else cares about numbers & the esoteric side of this scene, but right away I see that necklace, or medal as having 3-7 pointed stars. Some numerology people were saying Trump is coded 777 before the election, so I thought I'd throw it out there since I see it.

This 100m goes to a world bank charity. HRC's dirty money went to her own foundation.

Very different situations that isn't to say Trump is corrupt else where.

Because Ivanka Trump is such a saint when it comes to federal power and her own personal business dealings.

I'm replying to the title of this thread.

I don't think in this particular instance there was anything fishy. She got some publicity and good will but nothing monetary thus I dont think there was a conspiracy.

Is she dirty otherwise? How about you show some proof in a new thread and we can have a factual discussion.

(Crickets)

Man, what's even the use? Y'all will just willfully ignore proof that contradicts your beliefs. This is why nobody bothers anymore.

Nobody bothers because when confronted with facts and asked to explain their position, shills make up bullshit excuses as to why they won't back up their views and simply shy away.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/29/donald-trump-ivanka-trump/99795232/ never divested herself from her personal income let alone the fact that she is completely inexperienced

http://www.businessinsider.com/kellyanne-conway-inadvertently-endorsed-ivanka-trumps-clothing-line-2017-3 Yup nothing to see here folks, just totally normal for a family member of a president to push products on you.

Plus the rumor going around saying that she and the kush asked Flynn to remain loyal and he will be rewarded. Not gonna even bother posting a link cause I'm pretty sure you'll just label it as fake news. Obviously /pol/ hasn't confirmed it so it can't be real.

never divested herself from her personal income let alone the fact that she is completely inexperienced

Why does this matter at all? Plenty of advisers have done this in the past.

Yup nothing to see here folks, just totally normal for a family member of a president to push products on you.

What a shitty source btw, I don't even have ad-blocker and it's behind a paywall. But what because Conway mentioned how her clothing line was getting dropped because of politics? On Fox? Do you even watch Fox? Why does it matter to you how she sustains herself? So because she's not a career politician? So she gets to pocket profits her personal company. Which she spent years of her life working on. While being a UNPAID advisor. That's your arguement? Sounds more of a question of morals if anything rather than a conspiracy.

Come up with a better arguement. There's a lot more shit I'm sure you could come up with (and stuff that is actually bad and probably would change my views on the whole matter don't get me wrong) But you are indeed talking to a wall, because we're trying to build it and you're throwing eggshells.

First of all, I posted that source so I would be instantly rejected by posting any other "liberal" source. You can Google around and check other similar articles about the same incident for yourself. Secondly, using the office of the President of the United States is repulsive and anathema to every principle our Republic was founded on. Thirdly, you and I both know that the "unpaid" advisor shit is a load of crap, especially if your implying that there's worse things on Ivanka. Why don't you provide that information, I'd love to hear it.

Go ahead and build that wall, bankrupt this country. Y'all will just find yourselves lined up against it. Then you'll be hoping it's just eggshells.

No, there has not been plenty advisors in the past who's only credentials are being related to the president and running a fashion line.

And yes it is fucking repulsive that she would try to use the office of the President of the United States to turn a profit. It's anathema to every principle our Republic was founded on.

And please, go ahead and link the other stuff that would totally convince you. I'm all ears.

Im supposed to come up with a better argument? Yours is basically "so what" which isn't a fucking argument at all.

Removed Rule 10

Her last name is trump. .. that makes her dirty enough. His entire family, and most his administration should be jailed. The fact that they were in KSA to begin with, brokering billion dollar arms deals, is fishy enough. This little "charity" charade is nothing but a front to justify the fact that they were there to continue to arm the same people responsible for the very existence of groups like ISIS/Daesh.

Some very extreme and narrow views you have there.

Maybe the wording is coming off as harsh. I'm very angry at how shitty the world can be sometimes.

However, there's very strong evidence that suggests that Petro Islam/wahabism is directly caused by KSA that I'm too lazy to provide links for. Google it yourself, it's all there. People have been saying it for years, outside of the West.

I absolutely believe the saudies fund isis. All I am saying is that this 100m raised by Ivanka isn't dodgy and is seemingly going to help a lot of women.

Going off on a tangent because no body will read this buried post between you and I. The difference between our views seems to be that I don't assume I know what to do to curb and stop ISIS, maybe we need the King of the Saudi Arabia on our side against ISIS, maybe selling them more arms means we need to intervene less (less boots on the ground) or maybe it doesn't and we end up causing even more chaos.

I'm not happy with Trump's big arms sale nor am I happy with his missile and MOAB strike but I also don't assume to know what else is better. We are just normies and not the leaders of the world all we can do is learn and distribute information and maybe run for office.

The man has never done anything to make the world a better place. No thanks, comrade. #not my president. #lock him up.

Buckle up, it's going to be a long ride for you, potentially 8 years long...

And I'll be there to resist every step of the way, just like you're there following a set script every step of the way, comrade

Yup, posting on a place on the internet where most people agree with you. RESIST.

TD is that way -->

You don't know what to do to stop ISIS? Do you think that maybe, possibly, not selling the people responsible for their existence billions of dollars of weapons would possibly be a good start though?

You should run for office, you seem to know exactly what to do!

Well, Donald Trump did run for office, in part using the claim that he had "a plan to defeat ISIS in 30 days." It's been more than three times that long, and ISIS still exists.

Benghazi, Libya weapons went to Syria. Former president Obama also sold "S"-tons of weapons.

MSM was silent.

Now [only] trump cabal is culpable for arms race?

You don't need to convince me, I'm well aware of the long standing relationship the us has had with the Saudi pigs over the years, comrade.

Not sure if edgy, communist, or both.

I'm not anything except me. All the knowledge I possess, anyone else can learn, but my heart is exclusively my own.

You have 100 people stranded on a lush island with unknown resources and little hope of rescue for foreseeable future.

They are all looking to you for leadership. You have final say and you may have counsel of your choice.

What process of organization do you choose?

Communism? Democracy? Representative Republic? Free Will?

Hard to say. I would force theway of Bill and Ted - Be Excellent To Each Other

That might well be as good a start as any.

likely neither?

I'm not your comrade, friend.

Libertarian, here.

Yea benghazi...never heard a word about that in the media....

Yes, it was not properly or accurately covered.

This was not an embassy, it was a CIA outpost moving arms.

I don't think in this particular instance there was anything fishy

Are you kidding? Besides her husband's family selling citizenship to Chinese for $500k a pop, she has also been given 3 trademarks in China that she was previously denied before her father became president. She's a senior advisor to the president and hasn't divested at all from her company. If you can't see the many conflicts or problems with Ivanka, you are just being willfully blind.

Try to stick to the point of the thread.

Is their any proof she pocketed the money and didn't use it for charity?

Not sure, but the conflict of interest is certainly greater.

What? How? Hillary was sos, this is the presidents family member!

That my point exactly.

Hillary is the sos and also the owner of the charity. Trump is president and his daughter does not own or manage the charity.

If you know so little as to say someone can be the "owner" of a non-profit charity then your opinion on the topic doesn't mean shit.

Point still stands, HRC manages Clinton Foundation but Ivanka doesnt manage World Bank.

Thanks for this info.

no worries mate

The foundation was setup by Bill, dumbass.

They use the money for personal expenses and to pay the Clinton crime family (by giving them sinecures and what not) so yes.

Didn't chealsea clinton get her wedding paid?

With aid money set for Haiti

There's zero evidence of this claim that gets tossed around here daily.

Most "news" agencies pushed the story. From what I understand someone for the Clinton foundation was doing an audit and came across some crumbs that's shehadbeen compensated with foundation money. Of course this was never denied or confirmed.

http://jacksonville.com/reason/2016-12-06/fact-check-did-clinton-foundation-pay-chelsea-s-wedding

I've always been hyper critical of the Clinton slush fund, but I immediately discredit any source that unnecessary targets ones race. We have to question their motives here, "to #Jewish investment banker Marc Mezvinsky". Why not just go full Monty and say: "to a 5'10", oxford graduate, 39 year old, white Jewish male, etc.... isn't "investment banker" the only key info here?

If it walks like a duck...

Doug Band, the former Clinton aide, first complains to Podesta that he had heard that Chelsea Clinton had told one of George W. Bush’s daughters that she was conducting an investigation of Clinton Foundation finances. “Not smart,” Band says.

Podesta replies, “You are perfecting your skills for understatement.”

“I learned from the best,” answers Band. Then he adds, ominously: “The investigation into her getting paid for campaigning, using foundation resources for her wedding and life for a decade, taxes on money from her parents….I hope you will speak to her and end this. Once we go down this road….”

This exchange is literally the only evidence that exists to support the Clinton wedding scandal. Parts of it don't even make sense. Clinton told a Bush kid she (Chelsea Clinton) was investigating the Clinton Foundation's money stuff. Why would she do that if she was allegedly responsible for skimming money? I've always interpreted this email as Band is afraid of Chelsea's investigation, and is willing to go after her to protect himself. Also, "resources" doesn't mean it paid for the wedding. Who knows wtf that means.

Furthermore, there's no mention of aid for Haiti as you implied. Obviously, the exchange seems shady, and hints at definite unethical behavior. But you're speaking very matter-of-factly about something that is not a matter of fact.

Wapo is run by CIA and pedophiles and its full of pro HRC propaganda. They did several pizzagate debunk pieces there is no chance in hell they still have reliability.

How about these? http://nypost.com/2016/11/06/chelsea-clinton-used-foundation-to-help-pay-for-wedding-emails/

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/52046

I can also link 100 right wing sources which will be propanda so I'm not going to..

Truth is somewhere in the middle and we likely will never fully know it.

Yeah... according to a lawyer who believes the clinton foundation is clean as a whistle, and a wedding planner who said he took cash and set everything up.

You should really read your links before posting. They labeled the thing as no evidence notfalse fyi.

It's cause the world bank thing is controlled by Merkel, they make ivanka look bad just to spite trump

Who runs that charity?

The world bank people whom she is not apart of.

Aaaaaand is the Rothschilds again. Probably.

Wouldn't be surprised.

However I think money to the Rothschilds is no longer their objective, they use money as a tool to control people kind of like how we use candy to control children....

how we use candy to control children....

If you're giving kids candy to get them under control, then really, they're controlling you :)

Seriously though, I'm more inclined towards the notion that television controls kids.

And who controls television, I wonder?

Candy.

ya the Rothschilds pumped their fists in jubilation when they got that extra 100m . It really made the difference in their wealth

This maybe a dumb question, but is Ivanka in any way able to grab any money out of this charity to use it as a personal slush fund like HRC w/the CF? Does Ivanka have any personal control over it?

Well said. I think Clinton would be doing the same shit. (...aaaand we'd have Bubba stinking up the White House with whores and blow.)

stinking up the White House with whores and blow.

You make that sound like a bad thing! I wish I had such first world problems. I'd light a few candles and spray a little Febreeze around.

kek

first world problems

Exactly, we are spoiled as shit.

Yes the Clinton money went to their own foundation but they get zero dollars of it, just like Ivanka...so it's exactly the same.

It paid for their travel costs as well as Chelsea's wedding. That is what we know of.

Lol so when the Clintons donate to their "world charity" it's dirty money but when it's the Trump's it's not dirty. This fucking sub these days 😂

They paid for Chelsea's wedding with the donated money.

You're missing my point. I know that the Clintons are corrupt that's as clear as the sky is blue. What I am pointing to is the clear and blatant hypocrisy of Trump supporters when they defend the Trump's for the same corrupt actions.

Well the point I'm trying to make is that this is a false equivalency. This isn't the "same corrupt actions" at all.

Because they've yet to shift the money into paying for a wedding yet? It's her pet foundation, the money is as good as a personal bribe.

It's a world bank charity.

Evidence?

Google podesta Wikileaks wedding

The only thing charitable about TCF was to their own wallets. If you can't see the difference in their own money laundering scheme and a fund not owned or run by Ivanka at all then I'm afraid there's no hope for you.

You strike me as someone who thinks a Gmail account and a private server are the same thing.

Lol I know TCF is corrupt. You strike me as someone who thinks attacking one side means defense of the other.

The Clinton Foundation on the other hand did a lot of great charity work

Big difference, and that is, many Trumpists in this very sub campaigned for him, now they slink back here pretending like they had no hand in it.

I'm so fucking sick of cowardly comments like this.

You know what? Donald Trump is 100% right when he talks about the dishonest media working so hard to discredit him. I'm not slinking anywhere. Fuck the Share Blue propaganda. David Brock and his scum deserve heavy criminal charges for their manipulative operations.

Not cowardly at all. In a sub that's completely owned by Trumpists who are apologists for the current US administration, any dissension is brave.

lol kinda a slap in the face to women by SA.

Donate money, wear the Burka, buy guns, give to terrorists.

No one is troubled by Donnie's old tweets about SA?

hes a billionair ... he say what is needed to make money. i really dont understand why people dont get this ...

The only reason why it's not fishy, is because Trump's intentions aren't as bad as Hillary. The TPTB are literally forcing Trump to look like a bad guy whereas Clinton was an insider so they didn't have to force her to do anything, she just did it on her volition.

What? So really it's the media making Trump look corrupt, not Trump? And vice versa for Hillary? LOL

Yes, that is literally true.

Hillary Clinton is affiliated with the most powerful criminal organization in history. They have moles throughout government, law enforcement, and media. They conspired to elect her in 2016, and now they are conspiring to destroy Donald Trump.

Yes, I really do believe what I am saying. I am not being sarcastic or facetious.

And that doesnt seem at all ridiculous to you? That everything clinton does is evil and corrupt but when trump does those same things hes being forced to with a fuckin gun to his head or some shit? Man i hate the clintons as much as the next guy believe me but the mental gymnastics used here to act like trump isnt a swamp loving fuck like hes always been is nuts

That's not at all what I said. The notion that Trump is doing the same corrupt things as the Clintons is part of the very conspiracy I just mentioned to destroy his presidency.

This is the great information war. I can't tell anyone else what to believe. However, my gut instinct tells me that criminals infiltrated government, intelligence agencies, law enforcement, and media decades ago. Now the media and Deep State is legitimately trying to destroy Trump because Trump is legitimately trying to destroy the most powerful criminal organization in history. Their propaganda is very strong, but the narrative they are pushing is completely fake.

Source?

Let's not even pretend. You know as well as I do that I am giving you my personal read on the situation after watching the situation unfold over the past couple of years.

But instead, you facetiously and dishonestly pretend that you don't understand this incredibly simple social interaction. I wonder why you might want to do that? I wonder where I have seen this tactic employed over and over? Gee golly, I sure can't figure out what your motive might be.

whats with the literal globalist glowing globe touching shit

Clinton never called Lockheed, asking for a discount, like Kushner.

Trump has been compromised since March. How people didn't see the almost overnight 180 change on his foreign policy is beyond me.

Duh 4Dchizz. Trump is trying to sting the facilitators of the corrupt money channel so he can pin Hillary.

/s

Trump is shit, corrupt and worthless. But Hillary is still a crime lord witch, and the Trump Russia thing is mostly desperate dem politics

I think it's called making allies.

I dunno, I heard its a complete nothingburger whne hillary does it. the press, the DOJ, congress and everyone says its not a big deal

yes it's pay 4 play. all of the politicians are scummy criminals.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

presidents are empty suits for the deep state/banksters/mil-ind complex/etc, barring the rare occasions they get to run their mouths off-script (in other words their only real power is rhetorical - which is real and meaningful, to be fair, but Trump's half-assed, corny, and partisan comments about fake news is about all anyone should expect from him at this point)

Military Industrial Complex at work here.

Yep, see Chelsa and Ivanka are friends. Trump even commented onetime he took it easy on HRC because he didn't want to ruin Ivanka and Chelsa's relationship-pity party time.

But foreign arms sales like this have been used for political purposes for centuries.

Because the rothchilds are still in power

I'll throw this here... also called Abiotic Oil.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin

In short, it explains there's a way to actually create petrol and that it's not fossil fuel (apparently "fossil fuel' was a term created for americans and the propaganda about oil -- to verify). From what I understand, the process looks a lot like the way fraking is done; you injected water into a "hot chamber" with carbon. So anyway, it can be done with an empty well. That could explain the BP leak and also the fact some well stopped producing for a few years and then "magically" started producing even more petrol than before (that was in the same area as the BP platform, can't remember the name.)

ANYWAY. The point is:

Saudi Arabia's economy relies a lot of petrol (probably mostly on). If USA would end up "creating his petrol" or revealing this, it would weaken the Saudis to a dangerous point. So what I thought is that the trade Trump did was actually like a "you're fired" last bonus cheque or like a compensation when you break a contract.

As for why he gave weapons, it makes sense to me. Sunni muslims is a branch that has the most differences in the faith of the most to the least believer, and also pretty much all the terrorists/extremists. They're also the majority but pretty much all small groups of sunni considers each other "fake muslim". So every freaking Sunni group is doing a witch hunt on each others or pointing fingers.

Giving weapons to Saudi will help them submit all these small groups of Sunni to the bigger group and make the Sunni's faith more homogeneous — and also have one common interpretation, unlike now.

I also suspect that mass migration to europe was actually a trap to the "lower" Sunni. Notice how the terrorists keep saying they were given permission by Allah. I'm quite certain some of their corrupted leaders told them to leave for europe... leaving lands like Syria easier to be taken since the rats are out. I could totally see Saudi doing a campaign like this, a bit as Palestinians did to their own people. There's really a plan to grab land in this but what Trump did probably stop the original plan and now they'll do it the "legit" way.

Yes exactly sa-- wait look, Seth Rich! Seth Rich everybody! Look over there!

Proven false do research move on.

This subreddit has been compromised by redhats

Has? Stormfront hijacked this place back in 2013, been downhill since.

No -- get your facts straight. The fund was a World Bank fund -- not Ivanka's.

What more evidence does anyone need that he has sold out?! What the hell else does he have to do to convince you people?!?!

The diff is Ivanka's hot, Hill's not. Boom, case closed.

Most people only like Trump because they hate establishment democrats. The more he hated them, the less people contemplated if he'd make the same type of moves that they have.

You get what you deserve. Most Americans are blind, ignorant and dumb so you get leaders who prey on the blind, ignorant and dumb.

American's are crazy dumb..it's so entertaining.

It was "almost as much" as President Obama sold them and they donated to CGI. So, yeah, they're all the same.

Try r/Libertarian. It's just close enough to the center to piss off everyone else.

I think that is the Royal Order of Kissybutt. They're for everyone overlooking the sins over at the House of Saud.

Kushner is like a Klingon. He circles around Uranus.

As much as I hate it we are inexorably tied to these inbred cocksuckers. Our currency is tied to the purchasing of oil which means that until we move to an honest currency we are in bed with these cavemen.

Her married name is Noel maybe that's why she takes part in Jewish customs....

what's fishy about it?

This is the exact same situation. Anyone who says it isn't is fooling themselves or lying for a reason.

Fishy in what sense? You pay your money you get your ride.

No it's not because Ivanka nor any Trump has access to that money. That fund is controlled by the World Bank. Not even close to the same thing. The Clinton Foundation was a slush fund.

Trump finds himself in the mix now and he quickly is in over his head. He does not understand that he is out of his element, but there is no easy way out for him now.

It's not her foundation dude.

Isn't it fishy that here on conspiracy this demonstrably false title has 500 upvotes?

Israel & Saudi Arabia OWN the United States. We think we have a 2-party political system. In fact we are a 1 party system and its name is The Deep State-Perpetual War-Pedophilia-Blackmail Party.

you lost me at ivanka jr

BUT THE RUSSIANS

It's not Ivanka's foundation though, that's wholly inaccurate and misleading.

It's a fund from the World Bank.

Don't let the trumptards hear you say that though, they'll deny it

I mean, I was with you until you started asking easily Google-able questions.

President Trump received the royal treatment Saturday when he was bestowed with Saudi Arabia’s highest civilian honor.

During a ceremony at the grand Saudi Royal Court, King Salman awarded Trump the gilded Collar of Abdulaziz al Saud. Trump was honored for “his quest to enhance security and peace … in the region and the world,”

Source.

Why was he wearing a yamaka? Because it's a sign of respect, I'd imagine. I bet he wore one at Ivanka and Jared's wedding too.

Respect is fine but was he bending the knee or simply being respectful?

Bending the knee by putting on a yamaka? No. It was a sign of respect.

World bank for Ivanka. HRC uses "foundations" where she isn't 100% obligated to notate money flow. Next.

Ones a full-time politician. Ones a businesswoman.

Finders fee

Can someone settle this for me by showing evidence that Ivanka has an influence on world bank funds?

yes, and all of us non Trump sheep have been telling you this the entire time.

Yeah but it's only bad if Trump / Republican's do it.

YES.

Yeah, I approved it. It was removed by automod.

He knew Epstein for 15 years or more before he got caught at Mar-A-Lago. Sounds like Trump needed to save face.

you probably think retail stores are out to screw you too.

The constitution literally states:

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
Cut this shit out. This was foreseen.

Does he have blood on his hands? Srs question...

Do you have a point? With facts, even? Feel free to read something sometime.

"They put the fresher milk at the back of the cooler so you buy the halfway spoiled stuff!"

He was conferred a title by the terrorist-funding government of Saudi Arabia. That's a fact.

The funds are going to a world bank empowerment fund for women, not a charity Ivanka's created. There could be something shady going on but I don't see s direct connection.

If you know so little as to say someone can be the "owner" of a non-profit charity then your opinion on the topic doesn't mean shit.

lol I'm reaching? But you just gloss over the fact they had 15 years of friendship and Trump is in Epstein's little black book?

To get the conservative vote, all he had to do was run with aren't r next to his name, to get the ignorant, uneducated, and racist vot all he had to do was convince them they were superior, worldly, well read and forward thinking.

It's not hard for an idiot to be a conman if the people he's targeting are even bigger idiots.

He's conning bumbling idiots.

Thanks for this info.

When Shareblue makes up a phrase they hope with catch on.

Why in earth would I think that? Retail stores are simply out to make a profit, like any store.

Now if there was one particular store with an elderly long time owner who had a life long track record of selling garbage products, blatant lying to employees and customers, bullying people with lawyers, and not paying his workers, then yea, maybe I wouldn't trust that specific retail store with my business.

Get the gist darlin'?

You consider trump University wildly successful?

Most "news" agencies pushed the story. From what I understand someone for the Clinton foundation was doing an audit and came across some crumbs that's shehadbeen compensated with foundation money. Of course this was never denied or confirmed.

http://jacksonville.com/reason/2016-12-06/fact-check-did-clinton-foundation-pay-chelsea-s-wedding

The foundation was setup by Bill, dumbass.