How do you know Jesus is good, and not deceiving us from the truth?

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why the Illuminati worship him and the occult knowledge he provided.

Where did you get that idea?

Nimrod created Babylon and wanted to build the Tower of Babel. The Illuminati practice his occult teachings. Ive been exploring how many mythologies retell the same thing using different names, Nimrod is Osiris, Saturn, Chronus, Shiva, and so on. Horus is Osiris' son, who is the embodiment of Atum, and the Pharaoh which to me sounds a lot like Jesus Christ. However Nimrod was from Ham and not Shem.

best taken to r/religion

In my opinion, Jesus was an enlightened human. Nothing more, nothing less.

Jesus is love, and love is not bad.

Because Gnosticism. Check out the Nag Hammadi library which wasn't discovered until 1945. It's critical. I believe the New Testament is manipulated based on what is in the gnostic texts.

Also check out http://gnosticwarrior.com

I believe the gnostic texts are manipulated based on what is in the New Testament.

That's cool and I respect that. It's just a deep subject and I'm not up for writing out the passages supporting my theories right this moment.

I was thinking the same thing actually, the Nag Hammadi library is similar to the myths of the ancient world and much older than the New Testament. Either way I believe christianity has been co-opted by the Vatican to continue worshipping Nimrod and his wife mother Samiramis.

Always thought the sword quote was funny

How could he be bad? What's the worst thing he did? Lose his temper with the moneychangers in the temple? Offered a couple harsh parables to people who don't like being told this material world is shallow bullshit?

Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior and if people here don't want to join me on that side of the fence, it's cool, I'm not big on evangelism. But the man basically told everybody to chill out, love your neighbor, don't obsess over material gain.

You don't have to take him as your savior to follow that as good advice. And who knows where it will take you?

It's not what he did, it's that you can't know what he taught.

You will never find truth, because you found faith instead.

Dunno...feel like I spend more time trying to find truth than anybody I know personally, with a few non-IRL people in this thread topping me.

You're welcome to judge me if you wish, but I'd caution you on absolutes like "You will never...." about anything.

You said Jesus was your Lord and Savior...

You found faith. You are incapable of finding truth, until you're willing to doubt your faith.

Ahhh.....but you judge without knowing my story. I not only doubted my faith, I lost it. Only after years of searching and travel and change and temptation and sin and damage and redemption did I find it again.

I don't know how old you are or what you do or where you've been. But you don't know my story. To make such sweeping judgments is not wise.

I don't know your story, that is true. But I do know what I know, and that is one must make the choice to ignore history in order to believe the Christian faith.

YHWH is not the one God. He's not even a god. So how then can the NT be correct?

The whole point of believing in God is faith. God wants you to come to Him. That's impossible if He comes to you via empirical evidence. You seek empirical evidence, not faith. You're comparing an apple to an orange, and complaining they are different.

Read the NT and find out what he was like from people who walked the earth with him.

Primary source.

"In the Temple where Annas and Caiaphas eagerly awaited news of Messiah's mutilation the Veil of the "Holy of Holies" in the Temple was rent from top to bottom (Matt. 27:51). As the veil of the Temple fell aside it exposed the black cube of the Old Covenant –the Yahweh Covenant- which at this most momentous time split along its sides and opened out in the form of a cross."

He opened the cube

See this to me mean that the Black Cube of Saturn (Nimrod/Osiris/Chronus/Ba'al/Gilgamesh/Shiva) was destroyed or changed into the Cross of Jesus. Although I believe it is implying that the Cube was of the Old Testament God, which is different from the New Testament God according to the Gnostics. The thing though is Yahweh is always telling the Hebrew people to stop worshipping Ba'al, and if Yahweh is the Demiurge, then that would make Ba'al the good guy.

Yahweh is offspring of Demiurge

You think the good guy is the one who requires child sacrifices? You need to examine yourself, friend. ba'al is ba'alzebub. It is not a good entity.

God is God. And Jesus Christ is Lord and Saviour.

The thing though is Yahweh is always telling the Hebrew people to stop worshipping Ba'al, and if Yahweh is the Demiurge, then that would make Ba'al the good guy.

You probably shouldn't use that kind of logic, sorry, it's just too slippery and careless. Baal is not the good guy, there are no good guys amongst these godlike entities you're researching. Just because Yahweh is a jealous god that commands his people to only worship him doesn't mean lesser gods are good guys. They all want sacrifice and blood though. Generally vampiric.

and that's why the Illuminati worship him

via Satanic ritual? Your post is nonsense.

Yes, they worship Nimrod by performing child sacrifice, blood drinking, what the christians would call satanic. All the ancient mythologies practice these things, look at the Inca or the Egyptians.

So they worship both Satan and Jesus? You're not seeing a contradiction here?

No you misunderstand The Babylonian Mysteries worship Nimrod not Jesus, they hate Jesus because they view Christianity as a perversion. Im saying that the Babylonian Mysteries are very similar to the ancient mythologies of ancient civilizations like Egypt and Greece, in which they portray the Osiris as the Lightbringer and his brother Set as the adversary. Christianity reverses this, to say that Set is Jesus and Osiris is Satan. I know it can be confusing, that is why I am asking for clarification.

Where are you getting your information from?

Nimrod....a grandson of Noah, born in Ethiopia. Becomes an Emporer...people worship him, he demands a tower built for him (Tower of Babel)...God disapproves of this, and confuses people by making them speak different languages...they disperse, taking with them the "Babylon Mystery religion" (false religion) with them....

How does all of the above relate to Jesus?

Why do you elevate Nimrod (a dicator) to such a high level?

The Mystery Babylon religion is what Nimrod created, and in it he places himself as the Sun god. Then all of these people who are scattered tell the same story but it is different because they don't speak the same languages. Christianity takes this story and inverts it. It is not Nimrod who is God, but he is Satan.

You have to believe in the Genesis narrative to give Nimrod any significance. And if you do, then you believe in the bible narrative. Otherwise, Nimrod wasn't Noah's grandson, and the whole thing about the flood, about Adam and Eve - you somehow have to "not believe all of that", yet believe the bit in the bible about Nimrod being an Emporer.

Why do you say "inverts it"? Why are you believing some parts of the bible, but not others?

Well I agree with you in terms of accepting the Old Testament. However it is the New Testament that I was saying has inverted this religion of Nimrod. Anyhow, Ive come to think that these pagan religions, all of which tell the same story just differently, are all Satanic. However I also believe that the Vatican is worshipping Nimrod, as the Pope dresses like him and there is a ton of solar imagery and the dove is symbolic of the fire dragon.

Jesus' arrival on earth was prophesied many times in the Old testament. I still don't know what you mean by "inverted". God dismissed Nimrod and the Tower of Babel as a symbol of false worship - nothing more or less than that. How do you invert false worship? Satan was around long before Nimrod, and long after him. Satan rules the world with God's allowance - because God wants to prove His sovereignty (that Satan cannot rule the world to man's satisfaction).

He warned about the moneylenders, was betrayed by judas (who sold him out for >gold coins<), spoke about how 'truth will set you free' (as opposed to believing in lies and going with the brainwashed majority who have been deceived by darkness) and warned about being 'divided'. Jesus was redpilled as hell.

How very odd that you refer to the One True God as a "rival anunuki". Your false premise is enough to discount your entire question. Only the old and new testaments are authorized to speak truth from God. What is most likely is you are deceived by the lies of the evil one.

I died and my spirit is hanging out with Jesus. I came back to earth and this life after drowning when I was 8. The "real" me, the pure child spirit, is already home. My consciousness is driving this avatar body in this earth realm.

So, I pray and meditate and hang out with Jesus and little Aders on the shores of earth constantly. Jesus is light and life. That's all I know.

No you misunderstand The Babylonian Mysteries worship Nimrod not Jesus, they hate Jesus because they view Christianity as a perversion. Im saying that the Babylonian Mysteries are very similar to the ancient mythologies of ancient civilizations like Egypt and Greece, in which they portray the Osiris as the Lightbringer and his brother Set as the adversary. Christianity reverses this, to say that Set is Jesus and Osiris is Satan. I know it can be confusing, that is why I am asking for clarification.

Where are you getting your information from?

Nimrod....a grandson of Noah, born in Ethiopia. Becomes an Emporer...people worship him, he demands a tower built for him (Tower of Babel)...God disapproves of this, and confuses people by making them speak different languages...they disperse, taking with them the "Babylon Mystery religion" (false religion) with them....

How does all of the above relate to Jesus?

Why do you elevate Nimrod (a dicator) to such a high level?