I don't think this cruel political attack is something that was generated by concern about Seth Rich and the attacks against his own family pretty much confirms it.
And maybe I think you are too partisan since you believe free of any evidence that Rich was the leaker and all your opinions are based on that unsupported belief.
What I believe, thought is real, it survives, our bodies die and I do not believe there is a personality possessing spirit that survives as an intact entity after our body dies. From dust to dust.
Yes that rock is as alive as I am, being made up of the same stuff and and being part of the only one thing.
And what do you think directs your own conscience and why do you think I might lack one because I don't believe we have a spirit separate from our physical body.
If I continue to engage you it just feeds your delusion. I've already said what I need to say. More words just give you more opportunities to ignore the ones I've already used.
I can think of something like the DNC came up with a survivor fund to pay his family on the condition that they let their Crisis PR guy handle all media relations..
I just made that up but if I could conceive that idea, they probably have thought up a hundred different ways to get his family to fall in line.
What's clear is they are using a lot of resources to try to make this go away..
Logically you chose your username based on disruption tactics, as you quoted.
In this post title you ask a loaded question, which you are highly unlikely to not all ready know the answer to unless you are entirely ignorant of the situation, unlikely. You add the qualifier "logically" which supports that conclusion more than one where you are genuinely asking a question.
The body of the post feigns ignorance, it's rare to see "having trouble figuring" used genuinely. It also trails off with an ellipsis and uses an emoji, both of which provide an even stronger impression of disingenuity based on the normal usage vs. usage where someone is genuinely asking a question or interested in an answer.
I don't have to prove something is false, you have to prove it's true. If you want to continue to push fake news then expect people like me to continue to call you out on it.
You provided a link to what can only be considered an editorialized blog to put it nicely. I asked you to copy/paste the evidence there because even after reading it I don't see anything but pure speculation. You have the opportunity to prove me wrong by copy/pasting the relevant evidence. Your move.
They are democrats that believe the MSM narrative. If Seth is the leaker, and undermined Clinton, it goes against the family's political beliefs. This is a very uncomfortable psychological place to be. On top of this if they believe the Russia hacking BS, maybe they think the conclusion would be that Seth worked with the Russians to undermine the elections, hence such vehement denunciations of conspiracy theories. They don't understand that a leaker is hero for exposing corruption.
Where did say I objected to what you think. I think it is outlandishly presumptuous for you to posit that you know their thoughts well enough to state them.
And why do you think you can provide that information, the Rich family's thoughts?
To reiterate a point, I don't see a normative violation. I shared my thoughts on this subject. As you admitted, doing so is not a taboo, so let me ask you again. What specifically do you object to?
GoddessWins: I don't think you should write about family motivation.
Me: I disagree.
Provide evidence that it is harmful to the family.
Here is my claim, having a multitude of internet nerds looking into this is neither harmful nor helpful, but it could be either. At this point the only organization that is not being helped is the DNC.
It makes me sick to see the sycophants on twitter and elsewhere claiming they are being bought off or silenced. How dare you people?
These people really think an amount of money or threats could stop them from wanting justice for their son. There has never been one shred of proof of Seth being the leak other than, apparently, only Bernie Sander's supporters can like Pandas.
So yeah, it looks like you're dragging their son into the spotlight to prove your HRC kill list meme.
I guess. I'm somewhat of a reddit noob so I guess you can have whatever point your making. I'll look what what it is and why I need it from someone else I guess.
They're telling you that they are a cunning hunter and laid the perfect trap to find users who don't believe Seth Rich's parents are being threatened with torture/death, such users are obviously in on it and so they will add a tag by to the username using a browser extension. It will probably read "Smarter than I am."
or
It's a case of when trolling backfires, "haha I still trolled you."
Then they and their son would be blamed for Trump being president. They are dems. They voted for Hillary. They said proudly Seth was a hillary supporter. Admitting he leaked the emails would mean their son led to Trump and that their way of thinking, their paradigm was a lie.
Based on some of the background articles on Seth, I didn't get the impression that his family was that political. There's no telling what the DNC Crisis PR fixer or their lawyers have been telling them though..
Well they originally released a video thanking all the people. But then I guess the spokesperson said they said otherwise.
Personally I don't give two shits about what they think.... It's a criminal investigation that hasn't been done. To your point for all we know they could be in on it! We don't know anything except what we are about to infer using common sense.
You look at all the different people (and businesses???) like who have thrown their reputations to the wind to try to convince people to stop seeking the truth is pretty insane... Like isn't it actual insanity?
Yeah the whole thing just seems shady maybe 10 years ago the people would just let it go. But not now There is legions of ppl waking up more and more everyday even with in our own little woke communities and message boards the ppl are seeing the bigger pictures . I sence momentum and the case of Seth Rich seems to be a catalyst for ppl that are sick and tired of burrying their heads in the sand.
George Webb did a segment on an operations the intelligence communties call "School Play". One sign that an even was a School Play is when people who should care about a case, such as parents, girlfriend, co-workers, police, don't seem to care after the event.
A School Play is a managed event from planning to cover-up.
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n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
Because those (faked up) millions of people don't give a shit about Rich and the main goal is destruction of their political opposition.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
So those people and Seth Rich didn't share a common goal? Is that what you are saying?
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
I don't think this cruel political attack is something that was generated by concern about Seth Rich and the attacks against his own family pretty much confirms it.
What do you think?
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
What's cruel? Who is being cruel?
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
What else can you call identifying specific individuals as killers, when the only evidence is highly politicized manufactured speculation
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
Highly manufactured political speculation? I think you're being extremely disingenuous.
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
Well I hope you are enjoying your thoughts.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
Do you?
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
/lol
n/a podcastman 2017-05-28
I'm thinking chatbot now.
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
Me or that user who has deleted all his comments?
n/a podcastman 2017-05-28
The user:
https://www.reddit.com/user/gaslightin
I don't think he's a chatbot any more though. Just an extreme amateur at rhetoric.
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
Thanks, I don't always notice /u/names I focus on what we are saying. so I didn't remember it.
n/a lavendula13 2017-05-28
I think the family has been threatened with reprisals if they don't back off and shut their mouths.
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
And what do you base that belief on?
n/a lavendula13 2017-05-28
Just a hunch based on their behavior.
n/a letsgetphysical__ 2017-05-28
I agree. They never asked for a PR consultant. Ever since Bauman took over we haven't seen them.
n/a podcastman 2017-05-28
User name checks out.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
You couldn't explain what you mean
n/a podcastman 2017-05-28
I know from other threads in this post you've already discussed it. Are you just lonely and want someone to talk to?
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
You accept that explanation? Because it's completely ridiculous thus why I didn't reply.
Do you think all the votes on these comments are normal people?
So you're saying that I'm gaslighting someone somewhere here? Could you copy and paste which part is gaslighting?
n/a podcastman 2017-05-28
Yeah, you're lonely and want someone to talk to.
n/a Rocksolid1111 2017-05-28
I feel bad for his family but if Seth is the whistleblower then his murder becomes much bigger than him..
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
After seeing this attack I will consider that if it is deemed that Seth is identified as the leaker I would lean to his own computer was compromised.
n/a Rocksolid1111 2017-05-28
Attack? Seth Rich was murdered, he was the one who was attacked..
Many people, me included, think he was the DNC whistleblower..
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
By "attack," I am referring to the dialog created about the tragedy of a young man man being murdered.
n/a Rocksolid1111 2017-05-28
What? I think he was murdered for being a whistleblower. Anyone paying attention the past 8 years has seen what's been happening to whistleblowers..
I think you are too partisan to even consider that Seth could have been murdered for being a whistleblower.
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
And maybe I think you are too partisan since you believe free of any evidence that Rich was the leaker and all your opinions are based on that unsupported belief.
n/a ObviousSpyAccount 2017-05-28
If only you people had even the slightest bit of credible evidence to back up this theory.
n/a I3uilderberg 2017-05-28
Could only be a couple reasons.
Parents are in on it.
Parents are scared/threatened.
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
Amazing how you can replicate the Parents thoughts.
n/a Rocksolid1111 2017-05-28
"Because those (faked up) millions of people don't give a shit about Rich and the main goal is destruction of their political opposition."
But you can replicate the thought of millions of people on what they think of See Rich...
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
I don't replicate them, I notice them, There aren't 10 of millions of people believing the DNC murdered Rich.
n/a Rocksolid1111 2017-05-28
You're assuming and presuming what other people think based on your own opinions..
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
No I am posting what I conclude from what I see and perceive.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
Have you seen the autopsy report then? What type of bullets were used? How did he die at the hospital?
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
No my statement is based on another post here that claims the police identified the type and brand of gun used.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
[Serious] Do you believe in an afterlife?
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
Ask me if I think a rock is alive instead.
What I believe, thought is real, it survives, our bodies die and I do not believe there is a personality possessing spirit that survives as an intact entity after our body dies. From dust to dust.
Yes that rock is as alive as I am, being made up of the same stuff and and being part of the only one thing.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
So you lack a conscience
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
That made me giggle. I believe that would on what you define identify as a conscience.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
I was referring to conscience not consciousness
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
And what do you think directs your own conscience and why do you think I might lack one because I don't believe we have a spirit separate from our physical body.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
If I continue to engage you it just feeds your delusion. I've already said what I need to say. More words just give you more opportunities to ignore the ones I've already used.
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
I think I enjoy your sense of humor more than you do.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
I don't enjoy any of this so you're probably right.
n/a western_red 2017-05-28
n/a Rocksolid1111 2017-05-28
I can think of something like the DNC came up with a survivor fund to pay his family on the condition that they let their Crisis PR guy handle all media relations..
I just made that up but if I could conceive that idea, they probably have thought up a hundred different ways to get his family to fall in line.
What's clear is they are using a lot of resources to try to make this go away..
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
And what is more clear is there are a lot of resources being used to perpetuate the story.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
Do you think I am a resource that is being used?
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
I haven't noticed enough to form an opinion about you or what motivates you. I do accept that you are an actual person behind your user name.
n/a FaJiTa-SalesmeN 2017-05-28
Relevant username.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
Can you elaborate?
n/a FaJiTa-SalesmeN 2017-05-28
Logically you chose your username based on disruption tactics, as you quoted.
In this post title you ask a loaded question, which you are highly unlikely to not all ready know the answer to unless you are entirely ignorant of the situation, unlikely. You add the qualifier "logically" which supports that conclusion more than one where you are genuinely asking a question.
The body of the post feigns ignorance, it's rare to see "having trouble figuring" used genuinely. It also trails off with an ellipsis and uses an emoji, both of which provide an even stronger impression of disingenuity based on the normal usage vs. usage where someone is genuinely asking a question or interested in an answer.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
I'm not even going to say anything.
n/a ObviousSpyAccount 2017-05-28
This post is worthy of a Worldstar highlight video.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
"check out all the people covering up a murdered!"
n/a ObviousSpyAccount 2017-05-28
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
Because the police haven't released it.
You are the one drawing conclusions.
I hope there is no God for your sake.
n/a ObviousSpyAccount 2017-05-28
So you're calling Seth Rich a murdered whistleblower without any evidence that he was a murdered whistleblower. Thanks for proving my point.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
I'm not a judge. Nor am I a DNC official, nor am I a paid spokesperson. I'm a private citizen protected by the first amendment.
Or are you suggesting that I am slandering Seth Rich and/or his family?
Does calling him a drunk botched robbery victim do him more justice?
n/a ObviousSpyAccount 2017-05-28
I'm not saying you are, I'm just saying it's not cool going around trying to pass off fake information as truth.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
Like...a case of pneumonia?
n/a ObviousSpyAccount 2017-05-28
Am I going around talking about pneumonia? No, but you are going around spreading false information. See the difference?
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
It hasn't been proven false. You're being disingenuous.
n/a ObviousSpyAccount 2017-05-28
I don't have to prove something is false, you have to prove it's true. If you want to continue to push fake news then expect people like me to continue to call you out on it.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
That's mental gymnastics right there. I'm not spreading false information.
n/a ObviousSpyAccount 2017-05-28
Where's the evidence that Seth Rich was a whistleblower?
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
https://medium.com/@trentlapinski/seth-rich-is-a-whistleblower-b348767699eb
n/a ObviousSpyAccount 2017-05-28
Stopped reading there. Please copy/paste the relevant evidence that Seth Rich was a whistleblower or just admit you have none.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
Okay. Blocked.
n/a ObviousSpyAccount 2017-05-28
I'll take that as an admission that you have no evidence.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
provides all the evidence
"WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?"
Fuck off troll. Reported to the mods.
n/a ObviousSpyAccount 2017-05-28
You provided a link to what can only be considered an editorialized blog to put it nicely. I asked you to copy/paste the evidence there because even after reading it I don't see anything but pure speculation. You have the opportunity to prove me wrong by copy/pasting the relevant evidence. Your move.
n/a williamsates 2017-05-28
They are democrats that believe the MSM narrative. If Seth is the leaker, and undermined Clinton, it goes against the family's political beliefs. This is a very uncomfortable psychological place to be. On top of this if they believe the Russia hacking BS, maybe they think the conclusion would be that Seth worked with the Russians to undermine the elections, hence such vehement denunciations of conspiracy theories. They don't understand that a leaker is hero for exposing corruption.
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
My my and someone here today has accused me of pretending to replicate the Rich family thoughts. Will you be accused of the same thing?
n/a williamsates 2017-05-28
I think you just did, but in a form of a question.
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
I don't think it takes any special forming of a question to see that your comment is your projection of what the Rich family thinks.
n/a williamsates 2017-05-28
So why didn't you just say that outright?
My comment contains the following claims:
They are Clintonite democrats.
It would cause psychological discomfort to consider that Seth is responsible for undermining a Clinton victory.
If they believe MSM narrative about Russia, then maybe they would conclude that Set was working with the Russians.
I think the first claim can be easily supported, the other two are have much weaker evidentiary support.
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
I did say it you missed it.
As for that above comment. You are once again providing us with you version of what the Rich family thinks.
n/a williamsates 2017-05-28
I think I am clear that my claims are speculative. What do you object to exactly?
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
Where did say I objected to what you think. I think it is outlandishly presumptuous for you to posit that you know their thoughts well enough to state them.
n/a williamsates 2017-05-28
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. However, I don't think analysis of Rich's possible motivations is taboo.
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
It may not be taboo but to me it seems harmful to them so why do it?
n/a williamsates 2017-05-28
Comments on a conspiracy forum are not harmful.
Because the OP asked a question about possible reasons for the family being upset.
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
And why do you think you can provide that information, the Rich family's thoughts?
n/a williamsates 2017-05-28
To reiterate a point, I don't see a normative violation. I shared my thoughts on this subject. As you admitted, doing so is not a taboo, so let me ask you again. What specifically do you object to?
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
I never specifically said I objected, I did indicate that I considered it questionable and harmful to the family.
n/a williamsates 2017-05-28
Our exchange can be summarized like this.
GoddessWins: I don't think you should write about family motivation.
Me: I disagree.
Provide evidence that it is harmful to the family.
Here is my claim, having a multitude of internet nerds looking into this is neither harmful nor helpful, but it could be either. At this point the only organization that is not being helped is the DNC.
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
Elvis has left the building.
n/a Trumpgoingtojail 2017-05-28
It makes me sick to see the sycophants on twitter and elsewhere claiming they are being bought off or silenced. How dare you people?
These people really think an amount of money or threats could stop them from wanting justice for their son. There has never been one shred of proof of Seth being the leak other than, apparently, only Bernie Sander's supporters can like Pandas.
So yeah, it looks like you're dragging their son into the spotlight to prove your HRC kill list meme.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
You took the bait :(
RES is great
n/a Trumpgoingtojail 2017-05-28
Wnat can I say, imma trout.
What do I need RES for?
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
Self awareness non-existent
n/a Trumpgoingtojail 2017-05-28
I guess. I'm somewhat of a reddit noob so I guess you can have whatever point your making. I'll look what what it is and why I need it from someone else I guess.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
ok
n/a FaJiTa-SalesmeN 2017-05-28
They're telling you that they are a cunning hunter and laid the perfect trap to find users who don't believe Seth Rich's parents are being threatened with torture/death, such users are obviously in on it and so they will add a tag by to the username using a browser extension. It will probably read "Smarter than I am."
or
It's a case of when trolling backfires, "haha I still trolled you."
n/a Trumpgoingtojail 2017-05-28
You see that was my first thought, but I thought it would be too lame.
Ah I just downloaded the RES and now I can see what you're talking about. That image link inbedding is pretty sweet.
I think it's safe to say my tag name should be "Trout".
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
[Serious] do you believe in an afterlife?
n/a Trumpgoingtojail 2017-05-28
Are you concerned about where you're going when you die?
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
Me? Not at ALL. I know myself. I know what I've done.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
[Serious] do you believe in an afterlife?
n/a FaJiTa-SalesmeN 2017-05-28
Become a catholic if you're concerned about your immortal soul, they'll give you ritualistic salvation so you needn't be genuine.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
I'm agnostic with the caveat that I think one day we might be able to know the truth about our existence.
I live my life acknowledging the fact that I don't know for sure whether I'll be judged upon my death. I'm planning on it just in case.
n/a iloveher222 2017-05-28
Then they and their son would be blamed for Trump being president. They are dems. They voted for Hillary. They said proudly Seth was a hillary supporter. Admitting he leaked the emails would mean their son led to Trump and that their way of thinking, their paradigm was a lie.
n/a Rocksolid1111 2017-05-28
Based on some of the background articles on Seth, I didn't get the impression that his family was that political. There's no telling what the DNC Crisis PR fixer or their lawyers have been telling them though..
n/a 2McDoublesPlz 2017-05-28
His parents are democratic jews.
n/a 2McDoublesPlz 2017-05-28
Logic test: why is a laptop relevant in a botched robbery?
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
Awan Brothers laptop you mean?
You amateur.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
Well this bait post worked better than expected. I figured the trolls would realize it's a trap.... Don't they know RES is a thing?
n/a borch3jackdaws 2017-05-28
You made a shitpost just to mark everybody who disagrees with you?
Yep. That pretty much sums up the state of this sub.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
No I don't even use RES
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
No I don't even use RES I was making a point
I think people got it quite clearly lol
n/a Reality_is_a_scam 2017-05-28
Maybe it was the mother and the father? Killed theor own son in depraved act of loyalty to the deepest of all states.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
Lmao! Whether this is an attempt to ridicule me or just sarcasm it made me laugh and I pooped a little.
n/a Reality_is_a_scam 2017-05-28
Nah im not ridiculing. Just trying to keep an mind and at least consider all possible angles. Do they have a solid alibi?
I HIGHLY doubt it was his family. And also trying to highlight why the family's wishes are null or void in a possible murder investigation.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
Well they originally released a video thanking all the people. But then I guess the spokesperson said they said otherwise.
Personally I don't give two shits about what they think.... It's a criminal investigation that hasn't been done. To your point for all we know they could be in on it! We don't know anything except what we are about to infer using common sense.
You look at all the different people (and businesses???) like who have thrown their reputations to the wind to try to convince people to stop seeking the truth is pretty insane... Like isn't it actual insanity?
n/a Reality_is_a_scam 2017-05-28
Yeah the whole thing just seems shady maybe 10 years ago the people would just let it go. But not now There is legions of ppl waking up more and more everyday even with in our own little woke communities and message boards the ppl are seeing the bigger pictures . I sence momentum and the case of Seth Rich seems to be a catalyst for ppl that are sick and tired of burrying their heads in the sand.
n/a letsgetphysical__ 2017-05-28
George Webb did a segment on an operations the intelligence communties call "School Play". One sign that an even was a School Play is when people who should care about a case, such as parents, girlfriend, co-workers, police, don't seem to care after the event.
A School Play is a managed event from planning to cover-up.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
I watch George Webb. Did you watch today??
n/a letsgetphysical__ 2017-05-28
Just started a few days ago. Watching now.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
He's really impressive.
n/a letsgetphysical__ 2017-05-28
Yes. I'm worried, though, once he gets too close he'll be suicided.
n/a Rocksolid1111 2017-05-28
You're assuming and presuming what other people think based on your own opinions..
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
Do you think I am a resource that is being used?
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
I haven't noticed enough to form an opinion about you or what motivates you. I do accept that you are an actual person behind your user name.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
I was referring to conscience not consciousness
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
provides all the evidence
"WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?"
Fuck off troll. Reported to the mods.
n/a GoddessWins 2017-05-28
And what do you base that belief on?
n/a letsgetphysical__ 2017-05-28
I agree. They never asked for a PR consultant. Ever since Bauman took over we haven't seen them.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-28
He's really impressive.