And all of this "If you disagree you're instantly labeled a shill!" talk.
I just want to touch upon this really quickly - I's not a valid defense excuse anymore. It never was.
Before this past election, this subreddit WAS able to have civil discourse and people could have different opinions. No one was called a shill because it was organic. Ever since this past election and the PROOF of shill accounts, it has become nearly impossible to differentiate between organic differences and "I was paid to say this" differences.
So, you can thank the people who want to control online discussion for causing everyone to call each other shills - because that's what Reddit is filled with now.
f hes honestly a self funded investigator with connections like he claims, all this free time, no work hours lol, hasn't been assassinated yet, then he is a brilliant investigator and deserves my respect for awakening the masss. I would love to believe this.
If not, he's a very talented and convincing actor, much like Alex Jones, keeps his cool when he needs to, knows how to garner support and trust from "every-folk". Sociopath or not, that takes talent.
I Would NOT just yet take his word as the gospel. stay skeptical of him too.
all you have to do is start taking notes on the various facts he drops, in particular any names. put those names on a list, and learn the wikipedia page, etc of each person. once you know the background on each person, you don't need a guy like George Webb to tell you what to think, because it becomes self-evident by your own background knowledge of the people involved
? what is #0p6d #0p4c #0p64s ?
. #0p6dCP operation 6 degrees, named after 6 degrees of separation.
mission is to make a long list of names, assume that a social network exists, and discover all the connections between each person on the social network, and to find the paths of fewest jumps to get from one node to another, (in the case of a distributed network), or each node to the top, in the case of a hierarchical network (such as President of the United States and the Executive branch)
perhaps make a new folder on your desktop for each name, and add info such as their photo, screen shot of their wikipedia page, screen shots of reddit comments, screen shots of blogs, youtube videos, etc. to your folder
spelled #0p6dCP prefix, root, suffix
prefix: starts with hashtag zero p for "Op" or "Operation" or "Opposition" etc
(pound sign "#" and/or leading zero "0" helps float this 0p to the top by alphabetical sort)
root: 6d is 6 degrees
suffix: CP is Child Prostitution/ Child Pornography
0p4cCp Operation 4 colors, named after 4 color theorem
mission of Operation 4 colors is to tag each name from Operation 6 Degrees with the best keywords, and the best number of keywords. problem: how many hashtags is the best number of hashtags? too few, can't find anything anywhere, too many, will find everything everywhere.
my personal opinion is that the best number of hashtags is somewhere between 4 and 7, for each of "who, what, where, why, why, how"
. #0p64sCP Operation 64 Squares named after a chess board
mission of Operation 64 Squares is to arrange photographs of all of the faces of the names from Operation 6 Degrees and Operation 4 Colors onto a chess board, starting with the President-Kingpin in the Top Left corner, and VP next box to the right, etc.
which seem like 2 completely different questions, but are in fact related in an unexpected way, thanks to #0p6dBMB #0p4cBMB #0p64sBMB (BMB is Boston Marathon Bombing)
Alex Jones may have caved on Pizzagate, but I still support the guy. He has been dragged through the mud for months now. You may not like him, but the guy has exposed real political cover-ups and scandals, and brought many to light that i had not heard of before.
For the record, GW has and still does , work in a software sales/development capacity. In fact apx 2 months back when he went "on the road" he was at a Software Trade Show in the Mid West and uploaded from there.
I've noticed for years, character assassination seems to be the number 1 tactic of the left and hardly ever the content or the policies. Especially during elections and it's not unique to the US, it's universal.
I think Bernie sanders would disagree. Here you are making broad generalizations about an entire subset of citizens whose politics are, I'm guessing, contrary to your own.
So called "Left" and "Right" seem to use different ways for propaganda as they also target groups which are wired differently from a psychological perspective.
The observation that the so called "Left" operates a lot with personal attacks, innuendo, PC and social/psychological ostracism looks quite accurate to me because a lot of the stupid "Left" seem to have a narcissist disorder and see themselves as "better" and more intelligent/enlightened human beings.
The so called "Right" seems to work differently and tries to use the base instincts(greed, fear, tribalism, ...) or cultural program(religion, culture) of people or make the opposite to feel weak by ignoring them. They also use more direct threats.
About Bernie Sanders, he obviously targeted the more intellectual/rational Left side who needed to be convinced by an argument (at least on the surface). But then again Bernie Sander's "Elder Statement" act was never really convincing to me either as he completely lacked the leader personality to succeed. He has a weak personality IMHO and he is surely smart enough to know his limitations so I consider his whole run phoney. The end was quite revealing.
I'm pretty sure there are a lot people out there who looked into this complex far more deeper than the few mins I spent on writing this:-)
It's silly the way they talk about stuff on the news. And the issues they choose from the BIGger issues and they always seem to direct u in different direction so you think about something else.To keep your focus away from the main subject? I know I can't be the only one that feels that way when watching any news..? or listening even? Js..
You're absolutely right. Sensationalism, misdirection, a skewed focus on violence and the negative. These are the tools that the mainstream media use to simultaneously create a climate of fear and to keep people averting their eyes from the big picture. I mean how often on the news do we hear about a community that came together today to solve a problem or better each other? Those kinds of things happen every day. But the focus is on almost nothing other than death and violence: war and terrorism abroad, domestic terrorism and police brutality in the country, rape and murder in the communities. This kind of skewed narrative has real power to shape and program people if they keep letting themselves be infected by it (watching TV). The human spirit is never given the chance to be empowered by what we see on the news. The mainstream media is the real Fake News.
"Just look at us. Everything is backwards, everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, psychiatrists destroy minds, scientists destroy truth, major media destroys information, religions destroy spirituality and governments destroy freedom."
Its really strange. Reminds me of the email scandal too. With Seth they're happy to admit he was murdered, not robbed, yet they don't take the next obvious step, why was he murdered and who benefited. Same with the emails, it was all about who leaked and why, but nobody wants to talk about the content of the emails and what they mean. Everybody follow this distraction over here, do not look at the elephant in the room
I just hope if he does uncover something no one else has that TPTB who it want to remain hidden, don't handle it like they usually do.
Heart attack, "suicide", bad wreck, plane crash, etc.
Just look at what happened to Andrew Breitbart after he started going after the big fish and telling the public what was/is really going on.
He's former intelligence and knows the dangers, so he's a bit better trained than most on how to do this... but he knows what a risk this is nonetheless.
I agree with you, but why did he panic recently? Why the GW periscopes and the sudden greatest fear for his self preservation? After all he has dug up, why now and this over everything?
It was the last video in which he named the suspected killer and pieced the whole operation together.
Plus, he had a suspicion the night before that there were SEIU guys who were casing him. And then when he saw them on the elevator with the infamous duffel bag he figured he was done for. I also have to imagine he was being tipped off left and right by the same people who were giving him intel in the first place.
In particular when there's no new information to be informed of. So, then, what we have is not information but his interpretation of information. In this case, it's not the (commonly known) information but the analysis that is criticized.
Isn't this entire post a confirmation that those tactics work? I'm seeing a bunch of complaining and hardly and information. Why not just keep pushing facts and information than complaining. If you resort to their level they have either won or you don't have anything true to say.
I watched his video and it was just nutty. Apparently the DNC is so broke they need to steal cars and sell them in India/Pakistan. That's fucking retarded.
how about this one. Weird the MSM waited until close to the finish line before condemning trump as a pussy-grabbing mysogynist. Fuck these degenerate as Sholes MSM 'journalists'
This happens because most of the people who like a good conspiracy weren't aware of him before today & yesterday. Especially with the "He names Seth Rich's killer"
Which causes a lot more traffic going his way, what happens in places which are open to theories with no evidence? That's exactly what you get.. Speculative threads which fit in with their own personal idea of the world.
Well if you had been listening to him from the beginning he started with Dyncorp and them going around the world havrvesting organs. He later said in one of his pariscope videos is he meant the organ harvesting hospitals do for transplants not what dyncorp does around the world in poor countries gathering organs for the black market.
A month or two ago he moved onto the Awan brothers and I feel he's the one that got the D.C. Police to start investigating them because before Webb started discussing them nothing was happening and that's why they fled to Pakistan.
Then he started on Seth Rich which ties into the Awan brothers.
He got people who watch his videos to tweet the D.C. Police to investigate the Awan brothers. You'll have to watch his vids and look at the dates of them to when the Awan brothers started being talked about.
Yes they were, by February 2 they were barred from using any computers but they weren't fired, Webb started discussing it mid February. Then in march the fled to Pakistan and weren't halted by any US law agencies. If anything he was one of the few who did any research or journalism into the Awan brothers while the MSM ignored it completely. I found 1 article by politico about them.
so again...my qs is did he potentially spook them out of the country? can you imagine them staying here with this sort of public heat? Theyre not Huma level, dont have protection from nutjobs to stay here. Again not saying they arent guilty or that he wasnt necessarily wrong to raise awareness about them..but thats all he did. he reported rather than did investigative journalism. repeating /pol/ isnt IJ imo.
I don't understand your argument/discussion. You admit you haven't watched any of his videos, you just want my opionion on what he does? Just watch his videos and see for yourself. Look at the way he gets his information and follows up. He's been traveling all around D.C. this past week with his colleague asking senators and house members about the Awan brothers. If that isn't investigative journalism I don't know what is then.
Webb does give credit, not always by name but I've seen him thank people who pass info and links in the comments section of his YT vids.
There's usually a lot of interesting information in the comments section too.
can you imagine them staying here with this sort of public heat?
People under investigation simply don't get to choose when to leave.
They were permitted to go in order to cover up a crime.
If you or I were under federal investigation, we'd be put on a "no fly" list so fast our heads would spin. The fact they went back to Pakistan is a major red flag that this is a coverup.
im not trying to be combative, but has George Webb legitimately broken something new that wasnt previously written on /pol/ ?
Or is he simply confirming and following up on extra leads where he can? i mean its not like dyncorp wasnt suspected of child trafficking for a decade now or so.
since i honestly dont rmb - how did the Awan brothers come to light? did pol discover a new story about an arrest? was it an FOIA request that revealed something? judicialwatch?
He says hisself that he connects the dots that other people haven't in investigations that are going on. I'm not saying he in 100% correct and that every thing he says is truth. What I am saying is he put his evidence out there for his theory and what people are doing instead of talking about the evidence and the theory is just going after him and who he is and what he does and just completely ignore his evidence and his information.
personally i dont necessarily advocate against him. for many it is a better form of consumption of information. i prefer mine via /pol/ because its more entertaining.
That disclosure is exactly it. I don't understand how people keep falling for this shit. Do they really want to be right SO BADLY about stuff? Pathetic
Cernovich was the one who broke the "Susan Rice was the official in the Obama Administration who ordered the unmasking of US Persons identified in foreign intelligence" story, that the NYT and WaPo had been sitting on for weeks without publishing. He actually does have sources inside the Administration who feed him news from time to time.
Full disclosure: I like Cernovich.
Can't speak to Roger Stone or George Webb, although my impression of Webb from his videos leads me to believe he's full of shit. Roger Stone...eh. I tend to believe Infowars is a "poison the well" operation and that Alex Jones is a psyop, but who would listen? He has only the amount of credibility required to distract people open to conspiracy theories.
Stone has good books and has nailed many mafia families in them. Say what you want about how his relations are with his self promotion, but he does good work at peeling back the veil and introducing information about the deep state, has since before the election of course.
Because he wants it to be true. That's what this sub is now. It's not actually about conspiracies. It's about partisan bullshit and connecting dots that aren't connected so you can win. Disgusting
I've watched some of his videos when linked from this sub over the past few months. And quickly stopped watching after a few each time. The information in his videos is rambling mix of 90 percent public information, 5 percent information already released by other people on the Internet, and 5 percent outright bullshit.
and people have been saying this the entire time. regardless of what their motivation might been for doing so, the idea that the "character assassination" only began today is dumb, blatantly untrue, and makes us look bad.
I can get behind that. But also there are people who have an agenda and when it's threatened they refer to the only way they know how which is kill the messenger. I'm not saying Webb has all the answers but he put his evidence for his theory out there and people attack him not his evidence or they ignore what he's saying and just say he has nothing.
Simply calling George webb a kook is exactly the character assassination this post is about. To make a valid point state why he is a kook, backed up by evidence.
He drops a lot of names and facts and then makes huge conclusive leaps very quickly before your brain can process the analysis. And if you go back and try to follow his logic- it's really just not there. He's like the strawman stereotype of conspiracy theorists, just spouting unrelated factoids.
At least you've stated why you think he is a kook, but I'd still need some examples to be satisfied. (I'm not going through 219 of his videos, although I will accept that the making of 219 videos is kooky behaviour in itself)
I've said he was bad information since day 50 or something. it plays to the same type of meme magic that was so successful for rallying the trump troops. He drops a lot of names and facts and then makes huge conclusive leaps very quickly before your brain can process the analysis. And if you go back and try to follow his logic- it's really just not there.
Even your post is inconsistent, given his video today accusing Kim Dotcom of being an FBI informant.
If you knew what he knows you would sound like a crazy rambling person too. I have following his story only since today and I've already had nightmares and my brain is going crazy and I'm a little more paranoid than usual, he's been doing it since the 80s. lol
"If you knew what he knows you would sound like a crazy rambling person too."
I don't fucking buy it.
If this guy was as intelligent as some here seem to think he is, if his work is really as important as people are saying, he'd be capable of putting out a <1hr. long video summarizing his findings. Instead, I guess we need to parse through hundreds upon hundreds of videos to figure this dude out, with quite a few of the videos being absolute irrelevant trash (from my own research.)
I've tried to watch George Webb because people cite him as being at the forefront of the Seth Rich thing. But every time I turn him on I get the feeling I'm wasting my time....every single video seems like it needs way more context to understand and I shouldn't have to watch this motherfucker's entire YouTube videography just to understand what he's saying.
This happens because most of the people who like a good conspiracy weren't aware of him before today & yesterday. Especially with the "He names Seth Rich's killer"
What? This is not true at all. Webb has been doing this for literally 219 days. I'm pretty sure it started with the news that Eric Braverman was missing and I definitely saw posts here discussing his early investigations in that area. I was here in this sub 220 days ago, but were you? The new account you're using is only 15 days old.
But yeah, George Webb has been all over the alternative media, too, for example, he did an hour long show with Tim Black on his progressive news YouTube channel. I've known about him after hearing about him on Reddit early in his investigation, but I didn't pay much attention to Webb myself until I saw that interview.
Do you have a valid rebuttal for what was claimed in the videos? If not then stop commenting, you arent worthy of anyone's time if you cant participate in a debate without throwing insults.
He had some interesting comments today on the phone call video about being 'old guard' Mossad. He says there is an internal war between the old Mossad and New Mossad which is into the organ harvesting and murders and sketchy DNC deals. I dont think this should disqualify all his stellar research I think he's giving context for his connection to this world.
This is interesting. When he first started posting videos about Dyncorp human trafficking and organ harvesting from Haiti to Syria, which seemed to evolve out of pizzagate connections to CGI, I thought that what he posted was genuine evidence, government documents, and even mainstream news reports. He seemed to be making a good effort and doing good journalism, even referring to Seymore Hirsch a lot. So I didn't see any reason to doubt him, but I did start to have this lingering suspicious in the back of my mind that he was in some way connected to Mossad.
I haven't watched any of his recent stuff, but just what you said seems to confirm that even more. But that would actually be a good thing if it's true. It would mean people on the inside of these powerful organizations are working to stop corruption and make the organizations better, like they should be. So if that's the case, even if he does have ties to Mossad, it isn't a reason to disregard his work.
I just spent an hour or so watching their live periscope and they are definitely involved in the intelligence world, they do not hide the fact and are open about such connections.
Interestingly enough he stated too that he believes Eric Braverman is under mossad protection somewhere.
We need proof of life from Eric Braverman.. we were waiting for the classes to begin at Yale.. suddenly he quits and gets a new job at google... still no proof of life.
There's a reason for that surprise, its because its ridiculous. Are we supposed to believe that they are going through the hassle of convincing the family not to talk when they can just kill him and be done with it in one night instead?
Think about it. Why kill a person, and then go through the hassle of acting like they are alive? Why?
Just pop two bullets in the back of the head in a place where you own the coroner, and have it ruled a suicide like a normal assassination.
Why log into a twitter account and write a tweet from him?
Why get the Eric and Wendy Schmidt Family Foundation involved, by having them write a letter welcoming him to the team (for a new job)?
Why convince family members to not file a missing person's report?
Think about it. Why kill a person, and then go through the hassle of acting like they are alive? Why?
The working theory is that Braverman is not expendable like Rich. It's probable that his brother is Israeli intelligence, and for all we know there's a deadman switch out there that could unleash all of the dirt on the Clinton foundation--he did go to the Russian consulate and try to escape, after all... this is in addition to trying to drop off the info with Wikileaks members who end up dying in this timeframe.
So, Webb speculates that he's in Israel right now--alive, but on a short leash. As to why Google is involved, they're practically an intelligence wing unto themselves. It would not surprise me for them to help the Clintons and do a solid on this one.
His contacts. He doesn't say much more than that for what seems like obvious reasons, though at that point it becomes a matter of whether or not you trust what the guy's saying. Personally, I do.
That thread seemed to make sense at the time because Braverman had sent out a tweet. However, we still have no proof of life, which is extremely odd since he was scheduled to teach classes this semester
It's a group of people who's "bosses" have a mission.
They are here to derail conversation, call anyone genuinely interested in the murder of Seth Rich a lunatic, discredit anyone well known looking into this assassination by committing character assassination and creating a false "group consensus" - i.e they just respond to one another agreeing with each other when its obviously set up conversations.
I don't really subscribe to anything I just drift in from R/all. I didn't realize you had believe everything that's posted here to comment on it. My bad.
I mean sometimes I just into the subreddit from r/all. I do that with a lot of subreddits. Didn't realize I needed to explain myself or my Reddit habits.
I'm here all of the time and I am critical of conspiracies.
Mostly I am critical because I know that when I go to and start to talk about this stuff that people will have questions for me. So I try to find all of the weaknesses in the story before I go telling it to other people.
If I were to just respond to the guys at work with "you are always denying what I'm telling you" and pouted my lips, I'd get laughed at.
Asking the questions, demanding better answers creates a system where the truth becomes bolder and bolder. It becomes tempered over time.
So do not drive away the deniers. This sub needs them in order to make sure that the holes in our investigations are explored.
I don't really subscribe to subs anymore, I just surf in R/all. So if I stumble upon something I feel like commenting in I comment.
I enjoy reading about conspiracies but this place has really become T_D lite. You'll see some breaking Seth Rich thing then go a couple comments in and see someone call it bs, and then there's people like you going year we've got em by the balls and then nothing will happen.
Interestingly, I still haven't seen anyone attack Craig Murray's credibility like this on his claim to know first-hand that the DNC/Podesta leakers were disgusted American insiders. The strategy there seems to be to just ignore him, I guess.
Fox retracted the story for the same reason than Hannity was almost fired, and why the CBS Swann piece was pulled--they unknowingly stepped into a hornet's nest and got pressured to pull out by entities that pulled their purse strings.
First off, you can't even address my point. This same thing was said about him and it turns out it was true, he had nothing and was pushing a fake story.
Why would Fox News, who exist to bash Democrats, suddenly be in the tank for the DNC?
They wouldn't. There's conspiracy theories and there's ignoring reality.
The reason I'm shitting all over him is that I have no idea who he is and all I'm seeing is a bunch of people posting about how he "cracked the case". Then I try to look at the video and what I see is exactly as advertised in the comments section... some idiot whose speech is that of a schizophrenic person.
Would you fucking quit calling everything disinfo, saying vote manipulation is going on when something gets downvoted/upvoted, and calling everyone who doesn't buy into your dumb ideas a shill all the god damn time?
90% of the shit that gets posted here with a tone of "GEE THAT'S FISHY, SHILLS AT WORK EVERYONE" is shit I look at and think "yeah, I can see why that got upvoted/downvoted, or why anyone would disagree with OP since OP is an idiot".
It's gotten to the point where at any given time, the front page has 2-3 post that are just calling out shills in a way that just makes OP seem retarded.
Man you sure are angry. He does many videos through out the day giving his thoughts and opinions on evidence he has found. Just watching one video won't get you anywhere he's been doing this for 219 days, so of course watching one video is going to seem confusing and like he's rambling but he's been building for weeks to this one day. Also I'm not calling anyone shills or saying it's disinfo. I'm simply saying look at what he's saying and talk about that not say that he's some schizo rambling on. Take a chill pill man it will be ok.
He's an attention whore. He picked up on Seth Rich to get attention from the_donald crowd. And the reason he has been getting attention is Seth Rich, not the other way around.
These people make more money, the more people that view their videos. It's a shrewd business move and nothing more.
Ha has no evidence. That's a fact. Everything he says is pure speculation.
You're gullible if you believe a word of it. He wants your money and he'll say anything to get it.
When people come out with their own theories about Seth Rich instead of what is said people attack the person.
All of the people you've mentioned have had criticisms levied against them for quite a while, but when they make themselves more visible those attacks become more visible. Webb has stayed off of the radar of most people, at least compared to KDC and JA, and the general lack of attention means detractors were fewer in number. But with this more recent claim by Webb, visibility has gone up and therefore you'll see more people unsure of whether or not they're untrustworthy.
I understand where you're coming from, and I don't have any issues with Webb at all. But we're talking about a post titled "George Webb has figured out who killed Seth Rich" that has a link to a video in a series of over 200 where he is pointing at a computer screen for 15 minutes. Do you expect complete support for that? I'm not saying it's necessarily true in this instance, but here on r/conspiracy people upvote click bait bullshit to the front page all the time. I don't doubt that their are some nefarious things going on, but the second there's any dissent to the ideas on this sub people immediately start calling out shills and share blue like no one has any legitimate reasons to question something.
Pretty much this. If you provide any sort of scepticism you're automatically a shill. I really wish people would stop upvoting baseless shill accusations just because they disagree with the supposed shill (I'm probably going to be called a shill because this is the first time I've commented on this sub), they just derail any sort of meaningful discussion.
Maybe, just maybe, people didn't like the George Webb 'I know who killed Seth Rich' video because it was 15 minutes of complete nonsensical garbage.
i'm just sick of the seth rich narrative these days, its like there is constantly a new 'i have proof who killed him' thing every day, like when the PI said he had new evidence, and there were like 10 posts of it on the front page, several being from the same account, i think i just need a break from this place
I just don't understand how certain users are closed off to the thought of looking him and what he says. Now I can understand the sentiment, but it goes completely against the investigative nature of theorizing criminal conspiracies. We have much to lose by blindly following Webb. We lose nothing by questioning things and figuring out if he's a good guy. If however he's wrong and we go with it, at best it'll be used to discredit investigators, and at worst, he'll lead us off into a direction that obstructs justice from being served for the murderer of Seth Rich.
OP's post was written poorly, and he brought up two relatively low significance points(that I'm not hearing often), while making no mention of specific research related criticism, with just massive one being mentioned. Like he belives his admitted ties to Mossad shouldn't be questioned because it's something only a shill would do. At the moment Geroge Webb is in the same league as Alex Jones for me. Some truths (say 80% to 90% true) mixed in with deviations (10% to 20%) and character quirks where it most matters. Even the chans are in agreement that Webb should be taken with a grain of salt. I enjoyed this measured post that was on the frontpage: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6e825u/george_webb_has_figure_out_who_killed_seth_rich/
Youre completely right with the click hate sensationalism. I think you're not seeing what OP is saying, though. Your point isn't what OP is addressing. There does seem to be some sort of character assassination, maybe not on the large scale, but relative to George Webb's famousness. And I feel like I'm trying to be as non-biased as possible.
I mean, I hadn't even heard of him until the thread (yesterday?) where it was announced he made a conclusion. So it may be that many hadn't even known of him until then.
I've watched every one of the episodes going back & forth about what his purpose is. He solved the oil for arms ratline, the Awan brothers and now says he just needs to solve this Seth Rich case. Each one of these were going to bring down the whole deep state Hillary Clinton network. He admits to deleting all the ratline videos, deleted all his tweets and now has moved to periscope where people can no longer interact and most of his followers don't want to use it. After yesterday's fiasco I have awakened and am trying not to be too hard on myself for falling for this for MONTHS.
I don't know if he deleted his tweets but he definitely did not delete his youtube videos just go to his youtube and click on playlists they are all there. He is saying he will leave periscope and go to youtube live once he and Jason figure it out. also you can interact with him on periscope he is taking peoples questions on there.
Exactly. For a lot of people this was their first exposure to him and they just said what they thought. He takes a bit of getting used to and if you start watching him without any context he can seem like the crazy guy in A Beautiful Mind with his wall of newspaper clippings
Nobody is disputing his information. The comments in this thread are either calling him a nobody who has nothing, a kook seeking for views and attention, or they just outright don't like him but have never seen any of his videos. Nobody has yet cited any evidence to prove him wrong, yet in his videos he cites exactly where he gets his information. Now that he's on periscope he's revealed some of his "sources" and is putting faces and names to his information.
I have yet to see a comment that proves that what he's doing is factually wrong. I've only seen opionated comments.
I don't like to use the word "shill" or "votebot". It's not a good look. You have to fight this fight with facts. Use their own words against them. Keep it simple and refrain from using your opinion. We all know that certain groups try and control the comment sections or derail the conversation but i found it easy to just use their words against them or facts. You'll never win an argument against people like them because it's their job to keep you from investing your time in real debate and conversations so if you feel their just trying to get under your skin then just ignore them.
I've followed Webb off and on since around day 100. I don't really have the time to watch all of his videos, and I'm not that big a fan of his presentation style. That's not to say I discount his info—it might be true—but the format is hard to follow without devoting dozens, maybe hundreds of hours to it.
I read over the other thread today, about him claiming he knows who killed Seth Rich, but what I couldn't find was what the actual claims and sources for these claims was. When people asked for this information, they were told to go and watch his videos, starting at 219.1. When people noted that he was making logical leaps, they were told to go and watch his earlier videos.
It's been several hours since I was on that thread, but I've yet to see a clearly written out thesis with supporting evidence. Sure, some people are trying to discredit him just to take heat off of the DNC and associated actors. I get that.
But some of us are looking to see what it is he's actually claiming and what evidence he has to back it up. I know /r/truthleaks was doing some summarization and outlining of his points, but is there a writeup with links that explains his thinking behind these latest claims?
I really truly think there are true shills among us, they know if you come out and say anything against Trump you get immediately banned so they go about it in a discreet way. They're easy to spot.
still skeptical. Nothing personal. I dont trust anybody.
either way hes a talented and intelligent guy.
If hes honestly a self funded investigator with connections like he claims, all this free time, no work hours lol, hasn't been assassinated yet, then he is a brilliant investigator and deserves my respect for awakening the masss. I would love to believe this.
If not, he's a very talented and convincing actor, much like Alex Jones, keeps his cool when he needs to, knows how to garner support and trust from "every-folk". Sociopath or not, that takes talent.
I Would NOT just yet take his word as the gospel. stay skeptical of him too.
There was a time when I thought AJ was the most real human being ever. now I know better. I grew up and I learned.
If hes honestly a self funded investigator with connections like he claims, all this free time, no work hours lol, hasn't been assassinated yet, then he is a brilliant investigator and deserves my respect for awakening the masss. I would love to believe this.
He's a member of intelligence, yo.
I feel like I'm a broken record with this, but it's news that just came out and casts a whole different light on who he is.
At this point I find it more interesting to assess why this information is being dispersed to the public, since I don't doubt Webb's veracity based on my own research into organ harvesting rings, the people he cites and associates himself with (Sibel Edmonds, for example), and what I've studied about the Clinton family through Wikileaks and elsewhere. I get it if others aren't there with him, but it's a judgment call I'm personally comfortable with making.
I don't understand these attempts to portray PizzaGate as some kind of huge debunked embarrassment to the conspiracy theorists. Podesta and his friends wrote a bunch of creepy stuff and were obviously, obviously speaking in some kind of code. This code happens to be the FBI designated terminology that pedos used. Again, these are people obviously, obviously speaking in code. If they weren't talking about pedophilia, then what was it, and was it likely not something similarly repugnant?
Exactly, if these people would have come out and addressed the issue, then maybe it'd be possible to believe they aren't hiding something. Podesta has never once fully addressed the code speak in many of his emails, and James Pizzagate has never addressed the creepy Instagram/calling a child a hotard.
I watched a lot of stuff and was unconvinced. I'd be into revisiting it.
I'm sure that now that we can look backward a bit, that there are some good solid recaps that are very clear and concise, that I didn't have a chance to see before.
Do you have any links that might help me in understanding your point of view better?
Why is this Seth Rich stuff so important? Anyone with half a brain knew Russia didn't hack the Emails. You can't wake an entire country, too many idiots and people who don't care. Our government was FOUNDED on corruption. There are bigger things then this coming, like say August 21 and Sept 23rd.
If somebody could take Webb's videos and summarize them into 60 second summaries, that would be tremendously helpful. Even summarized, I'd still have 3+ hours to watch. Dude's got a lot of long videos and they are not easy to follow, especially if you don't start from the beginning.
That being said, I'd agree there is something fishy with the Rich reactions. Reminds me of Andrew Breitbart, when they had bot Twitter accounts posting about his supposed cocaine use.
Even if none of his stuff is true which I don't believe it's better than any season of house of cards on Netflix. He has said many times in his videos that people from intelligence agencies feed him breadcrumbs. Today when he revealed the mossad connection he was pretty scared and let some info slip that he now regrets and is trying to take back. I think he really thought there was a good chance he would die today. The first periscope video after he got out confirms that. Poor Jason. Jesus being red pilled so quickly took a toll on him.
Why can't people be critical of any new info, or are we suppose to go "YES GREAT WORK OP WE CRACKED IT GOOD JOB ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IS A SHILL"
I don't think there is anything disingenuous here, maybe people have a more critical opinion on who George Webb and don't accept everything that's on the first page.
Just don't assume someone who disagrees with you is a shill.
because if you're skeptical you're a shill, you dirty dirty shill, too be fair their was a lot of nonsense in the other thread, but lets be honest, its the same fucking nonsense thats in every god damn thread these days
Isn't that to be expected? When one's profile is raised, he'll naturally accrue more attention from both potential fans and potential foes. This ain't new in social dynamics..
If they're anything like the last post they are incoherent rants. I think the Seth Rich murder stinks but this guy sounds just as bad as Alex Jones. If you want someone to believe you on Rich this guy gives you zero credibility.
This guy is on target do your own research on all these characters and you will know. Stupid people man unbelievable it's black and white! Alex Jones you are a dumb person all he's crazy conspiracies have come true so either he's crazy or he's right well 80 million listeners says he's rt.
Anyone who visits this sub on a regular basis knows Alex Jones is full of shit. He hired Roger Stone and has been sucking Trumps dick for a year and a half now. I can see why you enjoy this guys incoherent rants though....right up your alley.
I'll just say this as somebody who was watched less than 3 of his videos.
He mentioned in one of his most recent uploads that he had to offer an apology to mr Dotcom, he then said 'I knew that the FBI flipped you' but you've really turned things around now that you're involved with this Seth rich thing.
This is red flags against his credibility. As somebody from New Zealand who has met with and spent a decent amount of time around him and his political party, Kim has absolutely had nothing to do with the FBI and strongly opposed the recent Comey lead FBI. Even going as far as filing complaints to the NZ police when Comey arrived in NZ to try to have have him held accountable by New Zealand law for his unlawful behaviour against Kim and mega etc (lol fat chance right? but still funny and I give him credit for taking the time to do it formally)
What this means to me anyway is that this guy is at least capable of rambling about things he has no idea about as if they are factual and 100% real
Don't get me wrong, I want justice for Seth rich but I'm not sure about this guy being credible for the movement.. Happy to be proven wrong as like I say, I haven't seen much of his stuff.
He doesn't even have ad's on any of his videos. Pretty sure he's not making a dime off any of the videos. Saying he did it for the clicks isn't accurate, but I've seen that being thrown around as a reason he has been providing content.
Begins? Ha! Either way, people can't fling shit at you if they don't see you. Pop your head up, though, and (surprisingly) you're a target now. It's doesn't seem complicated.
He basically admitted in video yesterday that he worked for the good mossad, or they were at least feeding him intel, directing him, he admitted to have connections to the old mossad guard. Make of it what you will, i personally like what he is doing.
Now they are accusing the leader of Wikileaks of getting a sex change?
They already said he is a woman hater, rapist, child-molester, cloned, Russian double agent...
Accusing him of being a transsexual would not be a surprise.
I mean, I hadn't even heard of him until the thread (yesterday?) where it was announced he made a conclusion. So it may be that many hadn't even known of him until then.
The very thing that would make his theory compelling is a strong link between his "connected dots". But this is where he seems to fail, as those are always nebulous or outright omitted. "We'll see footprints" is not a convincing way to marry theory to fact. What footprints, when will they be shown, how will they connect these two persons or events? He seems to remain purposefully ambiguous in order to spin a story that he wrote the end to already.
Where is he and Jason Goodman??? George was cornered in his hotel room waiting to be picked up and transported to the Russian consulate and the video stopped. And neither he nor Jason Goodman have been heard from again?????
Oh, i see he went live on Pscope. They are blocking his and jason's youtube so had to go to other format. Thank goodness. Thought the goon's got to him.
George Webb is a deep state shill who is misdirecting people the mob is in on it, the dnc is in on it, the same people who killed Kennedy had Seth Rich dealt with. I'm beginning to think the media will start siding with Trump if that's what it takes to sweep this under the rug. Some social media platforms have already ran some pro trump fluff pieces which is a vast departure from all the vitriol. The Russian narrative is evaporating. It's all misdirection to get us to close up shop and stop snooping around looking for clues. With that said, don't stop the investigation, keep connecting the dots and don't trust any of these fake ads e-celebs.
It appears that most of what Webb 'discovered' has been online since 13 July 2016, written 3 days after Rich was killed, and over 1 month before Assange revealed Seth Rich in the Netherlands interview.
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2071.htm
What is really weird is that most stories on this site are completely crazy, and every story is prefaced by "A somber Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) report circulating in the Kremlin today ..." or some variant with "the Russian Foreign Ministry etc."
Since every story comes from an unknown Russian report of one sort or another, most of them are bordering on crazy, why does this post appear to connect all the dots? The key point here is that contrary to the public reports from not only the Washington Post, but also RT, the Russian Foreign Ministry, the Kremlin site, that a tit-for-tat expulsion of two Russian diplomats from the US, and two US diplomats being sent back from Moscow, at or around the 6-7 July 2016, being the fallout from a bizarre incident outside the US embassy in Moscow a month earlier on June 6, that the expulsion of the two Russians from DC was connected to Seth Rich.
The story says that Russian intelligence was monitoring traffic around the DNC and they detected a surge of activity between Seth Rich, the DNC and the Clinton Foundation, and they quickly realised that Seth Rich was possibly being targeted for a hit. It says that permission was obtained from the highest level to break cover and inform the State Department of the activity, and that Rich may be in danger. But after doing so, the agents were surprised that the State Department simply expelled them from the US, saying that not to worry, the US will take care of it. This then triggered the Russians to expel two US diplomats, one reportedly being the agent involved in the June 6 incident outside the Embassy in Moscow.
I have scoured the Russian web using Yandex looking at blogs, news sites and there was not even chatter about this unreported version of events. The first time the Russian web even mentions Seth Rich was after Assange spoke in early August.
Its possible that someone invented this extra connection between the Russian diplomats, a secret report, and a warning to the State Department. Everything else, including the DC shootout allegedly involving Aloah Jarroh on July 9, checks out.
So is Webb secretly behind the website? Where is the evidence for the supposed warning to the State Department, as the reason for the diplomats' expulsion. Any why on a site that regularly predicts the end of the world, every other week?
People were talking shit about him from about 10 videos in tbf. I didn't watch his vids for awhile as he was called a disinfo agent on here quite heavily at the start.
Having watched over 200 of George Webb's videos I find him one of the utmost brilliant citizen journalists of our times. What people have trouble with is unedited video. They don't know how to handle it.So they attack the producer out of frustration which just shows how ignorant or trollish they are.
personally i dont necessarily advocate against him. for many it is a better form of consumption of information. i prefer mine via /pol/ because its more entertaining.
Webb does give credit, not always by name but I've seen him thank people who pass info and links in the comments section of his YT vids.
There's usually a lot of interesting information in the comments section too.
I think Bernie sanders would disagree. Here you are making broad generalizations about an entire subset of citizens whose politics are, I'm guessing, contrary to your own.
You're absolutely right. Sensationalism, misdirection, a skewed focus on violence and the negative. These are the tools that the mainstream media use to simultaneously create a climate of fear and to keep people averting their eyes from the big picture. I mean how often on the news do we hear about a community that came together today to solve a problem or better each other? Those kinds of things happen every day. But the focus is on almost nothing other than death and violence: war and terrorism abroad, domestic terrorism and police brutality in the country, rape and murder in the communities. This kind of skewed narrative has real power to shape and program people if they keep letting themselves be infected by it (watching TV). The human spirit is never given the chance to be empowered by what we see on the news. The mainstream media is the real Fake News.
"Just look at us. Everything is backwards, everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, psychiatrists destroy minds, scientists destroy truth, major media destroys information, religions destroy spirituality and governments destroy freedom."
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n/a Devin1285 2017-05-30
Have an upvote sir. Glad I'm not the only one who noticed this
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-05-30
It happens every time. People don't like to talk about the information just the informer.
n/a SneakyWino 2017-05-30
Distraction and slander. All they have left.
n/a silence_forever 2017-05-30
Ah yes...the good old 'they'.
The New World Order! The Illuminati! The Globalists! The Pedophiles!
They are panicking!
n/a thewildpacific 2017-05-30
Yes they are
n/a M4GICM1KE 2017-05-30
Ya...thought thats why were here...?
n/a Middleman79 2017-05-30
I suppose it's libel as it's written in comments.
n/a The-SaltLife 2017-05-30
And all of this "If you disagree you're instantly labeled a shill!" talk.
I just want to touch upon this really quickly - I's not a valid defense excuse anymore. It never was.
Before this past election, this subreddit WAS able to have civil discourse and people could have different opinions. No one was called a shill because it was organic. Ever since this past election and the PROOF of shill accounts, it has become nearly impossible to differentiate between organic differences and "I was paid to say this" differences.
So, you can thank the people who want to control online discussion for causing everyone to call each other shills - because that's what Reddit is filled with now.
n/a 1-800-GOFUCKYOURSELF 2017-05-30
Reddit's largest share holder is Advance Publications. Reddit has been in decline ever since they got involved.
n/a Utopianow 2017-05-30
And we all know who that is.
n/a bealist 2017-05-30
Who is that?
n/a myatworksafeaccount4 2017-05-30
All they can do.
n/a margaritavilllll 2017-05-30
f hes honestly a self funded investigator with connections like he claims, all this free time, no work hours lol, hasn't been assassinated yet, then he is a brilliant investigator and deserves my respect for awakening the masss. I would love to believe this.
If not, he's a very talented and convincing actor, much like Alex Jones, keeps his cool when he needs to, knows how to garner support and trust from "every-folk". Sociopath or not, that takes talent.
I Would NOT just yet take his word as the gospel. stay skeptical of him too.
n/a EnoughNoLibsSpam 2017-05-30
all you have to do is start taking notes on the various facts he drops, in particular any names. put those names on a list, and learn the wikipedia page, etc of each person. once you know the background on each person, you don't need a guy like George Webb to tell you what to think, because it becomes self-evident by your own background knowledge of the people involved
? what is #0p6d #0p4c #0p64s ?
. #0p6dCP operation 6 degrees, named after 6 degrees of separation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation
mission is to make a long list of names, assume that a social network exists, and discover all the connections between each person on the social network, and to find the paths of fewest jumps to get from one node to another, (in the case of a distributed network), or each node to the top, in the case of a hierarchical network (such as President of the United States and the Executive branch)
perhaps make a new folder on your desktop for each name, and add info such as their photo, screen shot of their wikipedia page, screen shots of reddit comments, screen shots of blogs, youtube videos, etc. to your folder
spelled #0p6dCP prefix, root, suffix
prefix: starts with hashtag zero p for "Op" or "Operation" or "Opposition" etc
(pound sign "#" and/or leading zero "0" helps float this 0p to the top by alphabetical sort)
root: 6d is 6 degrees
suffix: CP is Child Prostitution/ Child Pornography
0p4cCp Operation 4 colors, named after 4 color theorem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_color_theorem
mission of Operation 4 colors is to tag each name from Operation 6 Degrees with the best keywords, and the best number of keywords. problem: how many hashtags is the best number of hashtags? too few, can't find anything anywhere, too many, will find everything everywhere.
my personal opinion is that the best number of hashtags is somewhere between 4 and 7, for each of "who, what, where, why, why, how"
. #0p64sCP Operation 64 Squares named after a chess board
mission of Operation 64 Squares is to arrange photographs of all of the faces of the names from Operation 6 Degrees and Operation 4 Colors onto a chess board, starting with the President-Kingpin in the Top Left corner, and VP next box to the right, etc.
idea ironically stolen from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most-wanted_Iraqi_playing_cards
and Sibel Edmonds
http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/2008/01/sibel-names-names-in-pictures.html
also, #0p6d #0p4c #0p64s are 3 sub sets of the #ProblemSolvingMatrix and can be re-purposed for any complex problem solving involving multiple, complex variables, to answer questions as diverse as
"What else causes Autism, if not Rubella and/or MMR vaccine"?
and/or
"who is the Boston Naked Man, if not Tamerlan Tsarnaev"?
which seem like 2 completely different questions, but are in fact related in an unexpected way, thanks to #0p6dBMB #0p4cBMB #0p64sBMB (BMB is Boston Marathon Bombing)
by way of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Mnookin
https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracyhub/comments/67evng/according_to_the_codirector_of_mits_graduate/
https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6b1cjp/explain/dhj8tmg/?context=3&st=j3cn35md&sh=e0cee709
https://twitter.com/CplBart/status/677983681424678913
https://twitter.com/D_Robert_Kelly/status/810378554760425472
https://twitter.com/TelizeGarnov/status/815671378640859140
https://twitter.com/keg2014gek/status/806798288666038272
https://twitter.com/CathCath77/status/804840375277928448
https://twitter.com/OpChemArchives/status/762901075385053184
https://twitter.com/CplBart/status/703341381171871744
n/a SuperFestigio 2017-05-30
Aw, poor thing
:(
n/a Dorfaladin 2017-05-30
Alex Jones may have caved on Pizzagate, but I still support the guy. He has been dragged through the mud for months now. You may not like him, but the guy has exposed real political cover-ups and scandals, and brought many to light that i had not heard of before.
n/a Utopianow 2017-05-30
The character assassination campaign against Alex Jones went into overdrive last year when several of his conspiracy theories were proven true.
n/a hmb4me 2017-05-30
For the record, GW has and still does , work in a software sales/development capacity. In fact apx 2 months back when he went "on the road" he was at a Software Trade Show in the Mid West and uploaded from there.
n/a DstopianParadise 2017-05-30
I've noticed for years, character assassination seems to be the number 1 tactic of the left and hardly ever the content or the policies. Especially during elections and it's not unique to the US, it's universal.
n/a chukklhed 2017-05-30
I think Bernie sanders would disagree. Here you are making broad generalizations about an entire subset of citizens whose politics are, I'm guessing, contrary to your own.
n/a TheRealBig_I 2017-05-30
This was a 15 day old account. I have a suspicion the comment was made so the sub would look as if leans right.
n/a chukklhed 2017-05-30
Amazing the turns an information war can take.
n/a nisaaru 2017-05-30
So called "Left" and "Right" seem to use different ways for propaganda as they also target groups which are wired differently from a psychological perspective.
The observation that the so called "Left" operates a lot with personal attacks, innuendo, PC and social/psychological ostracism looks quite accurate to me because a lot of the stupid "Left" seem to have a narcissist disorder and see themselves as "better" and more intelligent/enlightened human beings.
The so called "Right" seems to work differently and tries to use the base instincts(greed, fear, tribalism, ...) or cultural program(religion, culture) of people or make the opposite to feel weak by ignoring them. They also use more direct threats.
About Bernie Sanders, he obviously targeted the more intellectual/rational Left side who needed to be convinced by an argument (at least on the surface). But then again Bernie Sander's "Elder Statement" act was never really convincing to me either as he completely lacked the leader personality to succeed. He has a weak personality IMHO and he is surely smart enough to know his limitations so I consider his whole run phoney. The end was quite revealing.
I'm pretty sure there are a lot people out there who looked into this complex far more deeper than the few mins I spent on writing this:-)
n/a DstopianParadise 2017-05-30
I don't care what sanders things and yes you are only guessing. *shrugs
n/a kneeonbelly 2017-05-30
The mainstream media cares more about condemning people investigating Seth Rich's murder than the actual murder itself.
n/a SexyLieUglyTruth 2017-05-30
It's silly the way they talk about stuff on the news. And the issues they choose from the BIGger issues and they always seem to direct u in different direction so you think about something else.To keep your focus away from the main subject? I know I can't be the only one that feels that way when watching any news..? or listening even? Js..
n/a kneeonbelly 2017-05-30
You're absolutely right. Sensationalism, misdirection, a skewed focus on violence and the negative. These are the tools that the mainstream media use to simultaneously create a climate of fear and to keep people averting their eyes from the big picture. I mean how often on the news do we hear about a community that came together today to solve a problem or better each other? Those kinds of things happen every day. But the focus is on almost nothing other than death and violence: war and terrorism abroad, domestic terrorism and police brutality in the country, rape and murder in the communities. This kind of skewed narrative has real power to shape and program people if they keep letting themselves be infected by it (watching TV). The human spirit is never given the chance to be empowered by what we see on the news. The mainstream media is the real Fake News.
"Just look at us. Everything is backwards, everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, psychiatrists destroy minds, scientists destroy truth, major media destroys information, religions destroy spirituality and governments destroy freedom."
n/a Birdinhandandbush 2017-05-30
Its really strange. Reminds me of the email scandal too. With Seth they're happy to admit he was murdered, not robbed, yet they don't take the next obvious step, why was he murdered and who benefited. Same with the emails, it was all about who leaked and why, but nobody wants to talk about the content of the emails and what they mean. Everybody follow this distraction over here, do not look at the elephant in the room
n/a Nomandate 2017-05-30
That's because they're just reporters and not investigators, lol.
n/a RocketSurgeon22 2017-05-30
Actors not reporters
n/a GeezusKrys 2017-05-30
It's the same when people disparage evidences because they come from the "MSMs"
n/a SuperFestigio 2017-05-30
Those people and their gosh darned "evidences", huh?
n/a Cobra_Blown 2017-05-30
I just hope if he does uncover something no one else has that TPTB who it want to remain hidden, don't handle it like they usually do. Heart attack, "suicide", bad wreck, plane crash, etc. Just look at what happened to Andrew Breitbart after he started going after the big fish and telling the public what was/is really going on.
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-30
He's former intelligence and knows the dangers, so he's a bit better trained than most on how to do this... but he knows what a risk this is nonetheless.
n/a EricCarver 2017-05-30
I agree with you, but why did he panic recently? Why the GW periscopes and the sudden greatest fear for his self preservation? After all he has dug up, why now and this over everything?
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-30
It was the last video in which he named the suspected killer and pieced the whole operation together.
Plus, he had a suspicion the night before that there were SEIU guys who were casing him. And then when he saw them on the elevator with the infamous duffel bag he figured he was done for. I also have to imagine he was being tipped off left and right by the same people who were giving him intel in the first place.
n/a Birdinhandandbush 2017-05-30
Ad hominem - To attack the person, not the argument.
n/a SuperFestigio 2017-05-30
Ayyy PSA:
If you use it in a sentence, you should say "hey, buddy. That was an argument ad homimen", not "hey, buddy. That was an ad hominem".
For your health!
:)
n/a Birdinhandandbush 2017-05-30
Much obliged, I'll avoid the shorthanded response in future
n/a SuperFestigio 2017-05-30
Oh, sorry, I meant it as an addendum to what you had said, not a correction!
I learned it awhile back and it doesn't come up often, so I figured I'd share.
:)
n/a Nomandate 2017-05-30
In particular when there's no new information to be informed of. So, then, what we have is not information but his interpretation of information. In this case, it's not the (commonly known) information but the analysis that is criticized.
n/a betabob72 2017-05-30
Isn't this entire post a confirmation that those tactics work? I'm seeing a bunch of complaining and hardly and information. Why not just keep pushing facts and information than complaining. If you resort to their level they have either won or you don't have anything true to say.
n/a Pequeno_loco 2017-05-30
I watched his video and it was just nutty. Apparently the DNC is so broke they need to steal cars and sell them in India/Pakistan. That's fucking retarded.
n/a plebbitsuksass 2017-05-30
how about this one. Weird the MSM waited until close to the finish line before condemning trump as a pussy-grabbing mysogynist. Fuck these degenerate as Sholes MSM 'journalists'
n/a SuperFestigio 2017-05-30
And to you!
n/a iBeatJohnCenaAtFifa 2017-05-30
This happens because most of the people who like a good conspiracy weren't aware of him before today & yesterday. Especially with the "He names Seth Rich's killer"
Which causes a lot more traffic going his way, what happens in places which are open to theories with no evidence? That's exactly what you get.. Speculative threads which fit in with their own personal idea of the world.
That's why it's happening, nothing more sinister
n/a silence_forever 2017-05-30
This.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-05-30
Well if you had been listening to him from the beginning he started with Dyncorp and them going around the world havrvesting organs. He later said in one of his pariscope videos is he meant the organ harvesting hospitals do for transplants not what dyncorp does around the world in poor countries gathering organs for the black market.
A month or two ago he moved onto the Awan brothers and I feel he's the one that got the D.C. Police to start investigating them because before Webb started discussing them nothing was happening and that's why they fled to Pakistan.
Then he started on Seth Rich which ties into the Awan brothers.
n/a libertyant 2017-05-30
so you saying George Webb created the publicity that spooked the Awan brothers who could have otherwise potentially been apprehended?
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-05-30
He got people who watch his videos to tweet the D.C. Police to investigate the Awan brothers. You'll have to watch his vids and look at the dates of them to when the Awan brothers started being talked about.
n/a libertyant 2017-05-30
were the Awan brothers not being investigated already at that point?
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-05-30
Yes they were, by February 2 they were barred from using any computers but they weren't fired, Webb started discussing it mid February. Then in march the fled to Pakistan and weren't halted by any US law agencies. If anything he was one of the few who did any research or journalism into the Awan brothers while the MSM ignored it completely. I found 1 article by politico about them.
n/a libertyant 2017-05-30
so again...my qs is did he potentially spook them out of the country? can you imagine them staying here with this sort of public heat? Theyre not Huma level, dont have protection from nutjobs to stay here. Again not saying they arent guilty or that he wasnt necessarily wrong to raise awareness about them..but thats all he did. he reported rather than did investigative journalism. repeating /pol/ isnt IJ imo.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-05-30
I don't understand your argument/discussion. You admit you haven't watched any of his videos, you just want my opionion on what he does? Just watch his videos and see for yourself. Look at the way he gets his information and follows up. He's been traveling all around D.C. this past week with his colleague asking senators and house members about the Awan brothers. If that isn't investigative journalism I don't know what is then.
n/a libertyant 2017-05-30
fair play. seems hes doing what pol autists cant do. interact in person. guess my commentary is related more to prior stuff then.
n/a DstopianParadise 2017-05-30
Webb does give credit, not always by name but I've seen him thank people who pass info and links in the comments section of his YT vids. There's usually a lot of interesting information in the comments section too.
n/a fuster_cluq 2017-05-30
You should probably watch some of his videos before coming to conclusions about the authenticity of his work
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-30
People under investigation simply don't get to choose when to leave.
They were permitted to go in order to cover up a crime.
If you or I were under federal investigation, we'd be put on a "no fly" list so fast our heads would spin. The fact they went back to Pakistan is a major red flag that this is a coverup.
n/a Gkender 2017-05-30
oh shit he got people to tweet
n/a LarryHolmes 2017-05-30
"Created the publicity"? You mean journalism?
n/a libertyant 2017-05-30
im not trying to be combative, but has George Webb legitimately broken something new that wasnt previously written on /pol/ ? Or is he simply confirming and following up on extra leads where he can? i mean its not like dyncorp wasnt suspected of child trafficking for a decade now or so.
since i honestly dont rmb - how did the Awan brothers come to light? did pol discover a new story about an arrest? was it an FOIA request that revealed something? judicialwatch?
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-05-30
He says hisself that he connects the dots that other people haven't in investigations that are going on. I'm not saying he in 100% correct and that every thing he says is truth. What I am saying is he put his evidence out there for his theory and what people are doing instead of talking about the evidence and the theory is just going after him and who he is and what he does and just completely ignore his evidence and his information.
n/a libertyant 2017-05-30
personally i dont necessarily advocate against him. for many it is a better form of consumption of information. i prefer mine via /pol/ because its more entertaining.
n/a mki401 2017-05-30
"connects the dots" aka makes HUGE logical leaps and makes up bullshit
n/a whatsreallygoingon 2017-05-30
Yes. He's making us look like idiots.
n/a TheWiredWorld 2017-05-30
Gee I know a certain type of people that like to talk like that.
n/a Vrixithalis 2017-05-30
We know who you are.
n/a whatsreallygoingon 2017-05-30
Save for yourself. You're doing a fine job, all on your own.
n/a d8_thc 2017-05-30
He blew open the CIA funded crack cocaine epidemic tied to the Contras.
So no, hasn't revealed anything.
n/a libertyant 2017-05-30
you telling me no one has ever linked CIA to using drugs before? no one wrote books, real investigative articles years previously?
n/a d8_thc 2017-05-30
You asked if he revealed anything.
He's a journalist.
He broke open the story of the CIA trafficking drugs.
You're like sticking your fingers in your ears or something. Journalists compile information. He brought it to light. Therefore, he revealed it.
n/a libertyant 2017-05-30
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking#Early_reports
why isnt he mentioned here? again hes not "breaking" anything. hes just repeating old stuff and giving it coverage again.
n/a d8_thc 2017-05-30
Shit. You're right. My bad.
n/a libertyant 2017-05-30
no worries. funny coincidences though?
n/a mki401 2017-05-30
You mean Gary Webb?
n/a kit8642 2017-05-30
Different Webb, that was Gary and he was killed/suicided. This is George.
n/a Afrobean 2017-05-30
Are you trying to blame good, investigative journalism for the failings of corrupted, complicit law enforcement?
n/a anayakii 2017-05-30
That disclosure is exactly it. I don't understand how people keep falling for this shit. Do they really want to be right SO BADLY about stuff? Pathetic
n/a Buck_Sterling 2017-05-30
Cernovich was the one who broke the "Susan Rice was the official in the Obama Administration who ordered the unmasking of US Persons identified in foreign intelligence" story, that the NYT and WaPo had been sitting on for weeks without publishing. He actually does have sources inside the Administration who feed him news from time to time.
Full disclosure: I like Cernovich.
Can't speak to Roger Stone or George Webb, although my impression of Webb from his videos leads me to believe he's full of shit. Roger Stone...eh. I tend to believe Infowars is a "poison the well" operation and that Alex Jones is a psyop, but who would listen? He has only the amount of credibility required to distract people open to conspiracy theories.
n/a libertyant 2017-05-30
yeah but compared to the number of "HAPPENINGS" that Thernovich reports on...the term "even a broken clock is wrong twice a day" seems relevant
n/a Buck_Sterling 2017-05-30
Ayyy u TRS?
n/a Mahat 2017-05-30
Stone has good books and has nailed many mafia families in them. Say what you want about how his relations are with his self promotion, but he does good work at peeling back the veil and introducing information about the deep state, has since before the election of course.
n/a Metabro 2017-05-30
What makes you feel that?
n/a anayakii 2017-05-30
Because he wants it to be true. That's what this sub is now. It's not actually about conspiracies. It's about partisan bullshit and connecting dots that aren't connected so you can win. Disgusting
n/a GeauxTiger 2017-05-30
and people have been saying this the entire time. regardless of what their motivation might been for doing so, the idea that the "character assassination" only began today is dumb, blatantly untrue, and makes us look bad.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-05-30
I can get behind that. But also there are people who have an agenda and when it's threatened they refer to the only way they know how which is kill the messenger. I'm not saying Webb has all the answers but he put his evidence for his theory out there and people attack him not his evidence or they ignore what he's saying and just say he has nothing.
n/a wwwes32 2017-05-30
I heard of George Webb ages ago and came to the conclusion he was a kook. I don't say that more often because why would I?
n/a devils_advocaat 2017-05-30
Simply calling George webb a kook is exactly the character assassination this post is about. To make a valid point state why he is a kook, backed up by evidence.
n/a akronix10 2017-05-30
n/a devils_advocaat 2017-05-30
So a bit like John Oliver then?
"NO Maxine, you can't come out of the cupboard"
At least you've stated why you think he is a kook, but I'd still need some examples to be satisfied. (I'm not going through 219 of his videos, although I will accept that the making of 219 videos is kooky behaviour in itself)
n/a know_comment 2017-05-30
I've said he was bad information since day 50 or something. it plays to the same type of meme magic that was so successful for rallying the trump troops. He drops a lot of names and facts and then makes huge conclusive leaps very quickly before your brain can process the analysis. And if you go back and try to follow his logic- it's really just not there.
Even your post is inconsistent, given his video today accusing Kim Dotcom of being an FBI informant.
n/a whatsreallygoingon 2017-05-30
Thank you for describing my feelings, exactly.
n/a Negatonone 2017-05-30
If you knew what he knows you would sound like a crazy rambling person too. I have following his story only since today and I've already had nightmares and my brain is going crazy and I'm a little more paranoid than usual, he's been doing it since the 80s. lol
n/a Metabro 2017-05-30
I'm very interested in hearing a response to the inconsistency that you have mentioned regarding Kim Dotcom being accused of being an FBI informant.
Can't wait to see how they under-rug this one. RemindMe!
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n/a Buck_Sterling 2017-05-30
This.
I don't fucking buy it.
If this guy was as intelligent as some here seem to think he is, if his work is really as important as people are saying, he'd be capable of putting out a <1hr. long video summarizing his findings. Instead, I guess we need to parse through hundreds upon hundreds of videos to figure this dude out, with quite a few of the videos being absolute irrelevant trash (from my own research.)
I've tried to watch George Webb because people cite him as being at the forefront of the Seth Rich thing. But every time I turn him on I get the feeling I'm wasting my time....every single video seems like it needs way more context to understand and I shouldn't have to watch this motherfucker's entire YouTube videography just to understand what he's saying.
Fuck that.
Glad I'm not the only one.
n/a heyderryberry 2017-05-30
That's far too reasonable
n/a Afrobean 2017-05-30
What? This is not true at all. Webb has been doing this for literally 219 days. I'm pretty sure it started with the news that Eric Braverman was missing and I definitely saw posts here discussing his early investigations in that area. I was here in this sub 220 days ago, but were you? The new account you're using is only 15 days old.
But yeah, George Webb has been all over the alternative media, too, for example, he did an hour long show with Tim Black on his progressive news YouTube channel. I've known about him after hearing about him on Reddit early in his investigation, but I didn't pay much attention to Webb myself until I saw that interview.
n/a MARCORUBIO_RAVEPARTY 2017-05-30
The average amount of views for his 200 days is ~8k.
There's a reason his latest video is his most viewed at 44k.
It's because he released content making bold claims about who killed SR. The topic has been spammed all week on this sub.
A Redittor did their best to draw eyes on link by altering the title of the video too.
n/a faultydesign 2017-05-30
His fans keep saying this as if it's some huge thing.
Nobody gave a fuck about some crazy guy until he named an alleged killer.
n/a hamstersjs 2017-05-30
Do you have a valid rebuttal for what was claimed in the videos? If not then stop commenting, you arent worthy of anyone's time if you cant participate in a debate without throwing insults.
n/a faultydesign 2017-05-30
If the guy wants a rebuttal he should write down the information. Spastic videos are cute, but nobody got time for that shit.
n/a faultydesign 2017-05-30
Are there valid claims that need a valid rebuttal?
Maybe he should write them down then.
n/a hamstersjs 2017-05-30
Like maybe documenting them in a series of videos?
n/a faultydesign 2017-05-30
If they're so valid, maybe he should write them down then so that it can be properly validated.
n/a hamstersjs 2017-05-30
TL;DR I'm too lazy to watch the videos and do my own research therefore everyone else is wrong and I'm right.
n/a faultydesign 2017-05-30
TL;DR I want to properly have written text to verify instead of 300 days of video that nobody got time to parse through.
I mean, if he's so right why is he afraid to write down the information?
n/a Kargal 2017-05-30
the fuck? You realize we are not in a thread about the content of his videos, right?
n/a mikepencesdawg 2017-05-30
He had some interesting comments today on the phone call video about being 'old guard' Mossad. He says there is an internal war between the old Mossad and New Mossad which is into the organ harvesting and murders and sketchy DNC deals. I dont think this should disqualify all his stellar research I think he's giving context for his connection to this world.
n/a StrizzMatik 2017-05-30
Not the first time I've heard of warring factions within the Mossad, I believe the Anon5 LARPs mentioned this. Very interesting
n/a Exec99 2017-05-30
This is interesting. When he first started posting videos about Dyncorp human trafficking and organ harvesting from Haiti to Syria, which seemed to evolve out of pizzagate connections to CGI, I thought that what he posted was genuine evidence, government documents, and even mainstream news reports. He seemed to be making a good effort and doing good journalism, even referring to Seymore Hirsch a lot. So I didn't see any reason to doubt him, but I did start to have this lingering suspicious in the back of my mind that he was in some way connected to Mossad.
I haven't watched any of his recent stuff, but just what you said seems to confirm that even more. But that would actually be a good thing if it's true. It would mean people on the inside of these powerful organizations are working to stop corruption and make the organizations better, like they should be. So if that's the case, even if he does have ties to Mossad, it isn't a reason to disregard his work.
n/a Metabro 2017-05-30
Can you post a link(s) to the organ harvesting in Haiti and Syria thing?
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-05-30
Just go to his YouTube click on playlists and watch the dyncorp one. It's a lot of videos.
n/a Metabro 2017-05-30
Anything shorter? I have an entire life.
n/a privatelameass 2017-05-30
I just spent an hour or so watching their live periscope and they are definitely involved in the intelligence world, they do not hide the fact and are open about such connections.
Interestingly enough he stated too that he believes Eric Braverman is under mossad protection somewhere.
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-30
"In a kibbutz, eating hummus and growing a beard."
I hope this won't be the end of his videos because they're amazing.
n/a hmb4me 2017-05-30
Here's an audio of phone conversation from yesterday in which George comments on his present situation and his past https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p25z-KMXmg
n/a ___but_the_emails 2017-05-30
He was getting called out months ago too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5ses73/remember_eric_braverman
n/a antideerg 2017-05-30
We need proof of life from Eric Braverman.. we were waiting for the classes to begin at Yale.. suddenly he quits and gets a new job at google... still no proof of life.
n/a libertyant 2017-05-30
im surprised there hasnt been any chatter from friends / family / colleagues thats filtered through...
n/a Metabro 2017-05-30
There's a reason for that surprise, its because its ridiculous. Are we supposed to believe that they are going through the hassle of convincing the family not to talk when they can just kill him and be done with it in one night instead?
Think about it. Why kill a person, and then go through the hassle of acting like they are alive? Why?
Just pop two bullets in the back of the head in a place where you own the coroner, and have it ruled a suicide like a normal assassination.
Why log into a twitter account and write a tweet from him?
Why get the Eric and Wendy Schmidt Family Foundation involved, by having them write a letter welcoming him to the team (for a new job)?
Why convince family members to not file a missing person's report?
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-30
The working theory is that Braverman is not expendable like Rich. It's probable that his brother is Israeli intelligence, and for all we know there's a deadman switch out there that could unleash all of the dirt on the Clinton foundation--he did go to the Russian consulate and try to escape, after all... this is in addition to trying to drop off the info with Wikileaks members who end up dying in this timeframe.
So, Webb speculates that he's in Israel right now--alive, but on a short leash. As to why Google is involved, they're practically an intelligence wing unto themselves. It would not surprise me for them to help the Clintons and do a solid on this one.
n/a Metabro 2017-05-30
Now that's a good answer.
What makes Webb think that its Israel rather than here in the US or anywhere else in the world?
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-30
His contacts. He doesn't say much more than that for what seems like obvious reasons, though at that point it becomes a matter of whether or not you trust what the guy's saying. Personally, I do.
n/a Metabro 2017-05-30
Even if I trust the guy his contacts could be intelligence agents that are trying to disrupt large groups of free thinkers with disinformation.
I'm interested in more condensed (and better written and produced) versions of his work.
n/a privatelameass 2017-05-30
This guy gets it.
n/a Metabro 2017-05-30
What purpose does acting like he is still alive serve? Why would someone send a tweet from his twitter account back in January?
Also, why has none of his family filed a missing person report? Are they in on it too?
I can't think of a scenario where they wouldn't just dump a body and be done with it? Why the tweet?
n/a antideerg 2017-05-30
because the death of CEO of Clinton foundation would raise further questions especially as he is linked to leaks as well.
n/a Metabro 2017-05-30
It would raise questions, but a disappearance that extends out to include lots of other people raises more questions.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-05-30
So you're saying ignore allllllll the other information on the clinton foundation he had because he was wrong about Braverman?
n/a mastigia 2017-05-30
I don't think he has been shown to be wrong. Braverman is still incognito.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-05-30
So you're saying ignore allllllll the other information on the clinton foundation he had because he was wrong about Braverman?
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-05-30
So you're saying ignore allllllll the other information on the clinton foundation he had because he was wrong about Braverman?
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-05-30
So you're saying ignore allllllll the other information on the clinton foundation he had because he was wrong about Braverman?
n/a ArchonFall4All 2017-05-30
That thread seemed to make sense at the time because Braverman had sent out a tweet. However, we still have no proof of life, which is extremely odd since he was scheduled to teach classes this semester
n/a youspecialspecial 2017-05-30
lol at least they're presenting Mossad as a negative... 10 years ago they wouldn't have been able to use mossad as a boogeyman.
that's progress.
n/a thesadpumpkin 2017-05-30
Lol! The silver lining! :D
n/a ENDLESSBLOCKADEZ 2017-05-30
That's not the point.
n/a Mecanatron 2017-05-30
100%
Every conversation ive had on here today regarding the subject has descended into craziness.
n/a The-SaltLife 2017-05-30
It's a group of people who's "bosses" have a mission.
They are here to derail conversation, call anyone genuinely interested in the murder of Seth Rich a lunatic, discredit anyone well known looking into this assassination by committing character assassination and creating a false "group consensus" - i.e they just respond to one another agreeing with each other when its obviously set up conversations.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-30
Dey be shoostin da messenguh
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-30
Ah yes the classic 'shoot the messenger' tactic. It's a Reddit crowd favorite.
n/a VaporeonUsedIceBeam 2017-05-30
It's the DNC's favourite approach too.
n/a Gaslightin 2017-05-30
Sweet Jesus. RIP Seth.
n/a StrizzMatik 2017-05-30
It's so obvious and pathetic I had to lol. They really are incredibly predictable
n/a NothinToSeeHere 2017-05-30
Whenever we get too close the shills and larps come in to detract us away from the investigation. The same thing happened with pedogate!
n/a EliteAsFuk 2017-05-30
Yeah you guys were so close on pedogate that arrests should be happening any day now.
n/a Demons0fRazgriz 2017-05-30
They are going to need some lube for that burn lol
n/a JamesEpep 2017-05-30
I like that everyone who doesn't buy into their bullshit is automatically a shill. I'd love to get paid for calling those people idiots
n/a Metabro 2017-05-30
Labeling all critical commenters as shills, larps, or "conspiracy theorists" is a way to insulate your ideas from analysis.
n/a RikaMX 2017-05-30
We got them by the balls, and they are furious lmao.
n/a JamesEpep 2017-05-30
You have literally nothing.
n/a Ieuan1996 2017-05-30
Your comment history is a joke. Why are you in this subreddit if all you do is sent conspiracies and insult people?
n/a JamesEpep 2017-05-30
I don't really subscribe to anything I just drift in from R/all. I didn't realize you had believe everything that's posted here to comment on it. My bad.
n/a Ieuan1996 2017-05-30
Dude you're here all the time. Not every post reaches all. I don't buy it
n/a JamesEpep 2017-05-30
I mean sometimes I just into the subreddit from r/all. I do that with a lot of subreddits. Didn't realize I needed to explain myself or my Reddit habits.
n/a Ieuan1996 2017-05-30
Hold on I don't have anything in my script for this...
n/a JamesEpep 2017-05-30
Our conversation is on page thirty six.
Please don't go off script. If gives me flashbacks to that horrid Goldberg storyline in WCW.
n/a Metabro 2017-05-30
This sub is rooted in critical theory and skepticism. Don't think that just because one person wants to insulate their bias that everyone else does.
It is good that you are questioning. If someone can come up with a strong response than your questions have created that strength.
People that fight analysis and critique don't want their biases shattered.
n/a JamesEpep 2017-05-30
Thanks for that. I don't understand why people get so upset when you ask questions. I always thought that's what conspiracies like were all about.
n/a Metabro 2017-05-30
I'm here all of the time and I am critical of conspiracies.
Mostly I am critical because I know that when I go to and start to talk about this stuff that people will have questions for me. So I try to find all of the weaknesses in the story before I go telling it to other people.
If I were to just respond to the guys at work with "you are always denying what I'm telling you" and pouted my lips, I'd get laughed at.
Asking the questions, demanding better answers creates a system where the truth becomes bolder and bolder. It becomes tempered over time.
So do not drive away the deniers. This sub needs them in order to make sure that the holes in our investigations are explored.
n/a Ieuan1996 2017-05-30
I understand that, and I try to exercise that, myself. But this particular guy I believe is a youknowwhat
n/a RikaMX 2017-05-30
lol what a debbie downer.
n/a JamesEpep 2017-05-30
It's just like my opinion, man
n/a RikaMX 2017-05-30
Then why are you in this sub man
n/a JamesEpep 2017-05-30
I don't really subscribe to subs anymore, I just surf in R/all. So if I stumble upon something I feel like commenting in I comment.
I enjoy reading about conspiracies but this place has really become T_D lite. You'll see some breaking Seth Rich thing then go a couple comments in and see someone call it bs, and then there's people like you going year we've got em by the balls and then nothing will happen.
n/a Metabro 2017-05-30
This sub would be horrible if it was just a circlejerk. Please don't drive away people that are skeptical.
n/a Plagiieren 2017-05-30
i mean, it kinda is a big circle jerk, its just not a circle jerk thats also an echo chamber
n/a RikaMX 2017-05-30
Skeptical about what? OP made a statement that is true, this thread should be positive.
n/a dancing-turtle 2017-05-30
Interestingly, I still haven't seen anyone attack Craig Murray's credibility like this on his claim to know first-hand that the DNC/Podesta leakers were disgusted American insiders. The strategy there seems to be to just ignore him, I guess.
n/a green_marks 2017-05-30
219 days? Now if it had been 220 days things might have blown up as yet another one of these "22" things.
n/a worktheshoot 2017-05-30
whenever someone gets close to the "goods" (regarding info), the character attacks start.
n/a MessisTaxAccountant 2017-05-30
What?
This happens constantly even on things that are proven false.
This same thing was said when that PI said there was evidence and then a day later Fox retracted the story.
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-30
Fox retracted the story for the same reason than Hannity was almost fired, and why the CBS Swann piece was pulled--they unknowingly stepped into a hornet's nest and got pressured to pull out by entities that pulled their purse strings.
n/a MessisTaxAccountant 2017-05-30
First off, you can't even address my point. This same thing was said about him and it turns out it was true, he had nothing and was pushing a fake story.
Why would Fox News, who exist to bash Democrats, suddenly be in the tank for the DNC?
They wouldn't. There's conspiracy theories and there's ignoring reality.
n/a Shadowandlight64 2017-05-30
Most people don't know who Webb is and don't care.
Yes, let's rabidly pay attention to some random stranger on youtube spouting stuff he can't prove and backup. Everyone look!
n/a Reltius 2017-05-30
His stuff has been posted here for months. I guess the astroturfers that don't belong here probably haven't heard of him.
n/a Shadowandlight64 2017-05-30
People in general, numbnuts.
n/a Aye_or_Nay 2017-05-30
It's an intentional distraction aimed at the naïve.
People that try and obfuscate the truth make the world suck.
He'll either fade away or end up "looking like a suicide."
n/a PowerChairs 2017-05-30
The reason I'm shitting all over him is that I have no idea who he is and all I'm seeing is a bunch of people posting about how he "cracked the case". Then I try to look at the video and what I see is exactly as advertised in the comments section... some idiot whose speech is that of a schizophrenic person.
Would you fucking quit calling everything disinfo, saying vote manipulation is going on when something gets downvoted/upvoted, and calling everyone who doesn't buy into your dumb ideas a shill all the god damn time?
90% of the shit that gets posted here with a tone of "GEE THAT'S FISHY, SHILLS AT WORK EVERYONE" is shit I look at and think "yeah, I can see why that got upvoted/downvoted, or why anyone would disagree with OP since OP is an idiot".
It's gotten to the point where at any given time, the front page has 2-3 post that are just calling out shills in a way that just makes OP seem retarded.
n/a Jlas 2017-05-30
Team Podesta & ShareBlue out here hard tonight^
n/a fdajj 2017-05-30
Lol exactly his point. Good that you reinforced it though.
n/a JamesEpep 2017-05-30
Everyone who disagrees with me is a shill!!!
n/a Moarbrains 2017-05-30
Nope, but every shill does disagree with me.
n/a JamesEpep 2017-05-30
Not true. I'm sure there's paid shills to push the story too.
n/a Moarbrains 2017-05-30
Nah, the only ones that I seem to agree with are the alleged Russians who want us to stop fucking things up in Syria.
n/a Plagiieren 2017-05-30
There are. Its absolutely stupid to assume that only one side is doing it, like the paid protesters.
n/a Metabro 2017-05-30
You are ripe for brainwashing my friend.
n/a Moarbrains 2017-05-30
I am probably over ripe.
n/a CelineHagbard 2017-05-30
Removed. Rule 10.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-05-30
Man you sure are angry. He does many videos through out the day giving his thoughts and opinions on evidence he has found. Just watching one video won't get you anywhere he's been doing this for 219 days, so of course watching one video is going to seem confusing and like he's rambling but he's been building for weeks to this one day. Also I'm not calling anyone shills or saying it's disinfo. I'm simply saying look at what he's saying and talk about that not say that he's some schizo rambling on. Take a chill pill man it will be ok.
n/a Metabro 2017-05-30
I read this in Butters' voice:
n/a Plagiieren 2017-05-30
but is Jilian Assange hot, in like a cougar sort of way?
n/a Cotecozonia 2017-05-30
He's an attention whore. He picked up on Seth Rich to get attention from the_donald crowd. And the reason he has been getting attention is Seth Rich, not the other way around.
These people make more money, the more people that view their videos. It's a shrewd business move and nothing more.
Ha has no evidence. That's a fact. Everything he says is pure speculation.
You're gullible if you believe a word of it. He wants your money and he'll say anything to get it.
n/a Demons0fRazgriz 2017-05-30
You have to remember who these people are. They think Assange "hinting" that Seth was killed is verified proof that the DNC did it...
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-05-30
He doesn't have any monetization on his YouTube channel so he makes no money from the videos.
n/a Cotecozonia 2017-05-30
Source?
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-05-30
Hisself, he says over and over he doesn't do monetizing of his videos.
n/a Cotecozonia 2017-05-30
Is there anyway to verify that? As I far as I can tell, there is not.
You can be monetized with or without ads.
n/a Metabro 2017-05-30
Hisself?
n/a Thinks_too_far_ahead 2017-05-30
If you go to his video and you see ads, it's monetized. If not, then it's not. Why don't you go give it a try?
n/a Cotecozonia 2017-05-30
His content is not advertiser friendly, obviously.
But look at his twitter. It links to ads and redirects. It's not even a real website.
n/a Kind_Of_A_Dick 2017-05-30
All of the people you've mentioned have had criticisms levied against them for quite a while, but when they make themselves more visible those attacks become more visible. Webb has stayed off of the radar of most people, at least compared to KDC and JA, and the general lack of attention means detractors were fewer in number. But with this more recent claim by Webb, visibility has gone up and therefore you'll see more people unsure of whether or not they're untrustworthy.
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n/a PM_UR_HOPES_N_DREAMS 2017-05-30
I understand where you're coming from, and I don't have any issues with Webb at all. But we're talking about a post titled "George Webb has figured out who killed Seth Rich" that has a link to a video in a series of over 200 where he is pointing at a computer screen for 15 minutes. Do you expect complete support for that? I'm not saying it's necessarily true in this instance, but here on r/conspiracy people upvote click bait bullshit to the front page all the time. I don't doubt that their are some nefarious things going on, but the second there's any dissent to the ideas on this sub people immediately start calling out shills and share blue like no one has any legitimate reasons to question something.
n/a iagainstiagainsti 2017-05-30
As I read your comment, the comment directly below you is this:
Any question against the narrative and you're immediately labeled a shill.
n/a babyccino 2017-05-30
Pretty much this. If you provide any sort of scepticism you're automatically a shill. I really wish people would stop upvoting baseless shill accusations just because they disagree with the supposed shill (I'm probably going to be called a shill because this is the first time I've commented on this sub), they just derail any sort of meaningful discussion.
Maybe, just maybe, people didn't like the George Webb 'I know who killed Seth Rich' video because it was 15 minutes of complete nonsensical garbage.
n/a Plagiieren 2017-05-30
i'm just sick of the seth rich narrative these days, its like there is constantly a new 'i have proof who killed him' thing every day, like when the PI said he had new evidence, and there were like 10 posts of it on the front page, several being from the same account, i think i just need a break from this place
n/a babyccino 2017-05-30
I mean it's definitely a really interesting case but it's ridiculously over-represented here because of r/t_d's wanting to discredit the DNC.
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-30
Yet you'll notice there's not a thread available there discussing Webb's findings. Why do you think that is?
I watched a thread get locked in real time, and the "new" queue was filled with sharing this info until.... nothing. Poof. Gone.
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-30
To be fair, this is what shills and larps do. Question is sorting between them and the genuine users. It's often apparent in their tone.
n/a dankchia 2017-05-30
I just don't understand how certain users are closed off to the thought of looking him and what he says. Now I can understand the sentiment, but it goes completely against the investigative nature of theorizing criminal conspiracies. We have much to lose by blindly following Webb. We lose nothing by questioning things and figuring out if he's a good guy. If however he's wrong and we go with it, at best it'll be used to discredit investigators, and at worst, he'll lead us off into a direction that obstructs justice from being served for the murderer of Seth Rich.
OP's post was written poorly, and he brought up two relatively low significance points(that I'm not hearing often), while making no mention of specific research related criticism, with just massive one being mentioned. Like he belives his admitted ties to Mossad shouldn't be questioned because it's something only a shill would do. At the moment Geroge Webb is in the same league as Alex Jones for me. Some truths (say 80% to 90% true) mixed in with deviations (10% to 20%) and character quirks where it most matters. Even the chans are in agreement that Webb should be taken with a grain of salt. I enjoyed this measured post that was on the frontpage: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6e825u/george_webb_has_figure_out_who_killed_seth_rich/
n/a Nomandate 2017-05-30
Listen, we can't have a Seth rich circlejerk if you keep throwing sand in the lube.
n/a holytulsibasil 2017-05-30
Youre completely right with the click hate sensationalism. I think you're not seeing what OP is saying, though. Your point isn't what OP is addressing. There does seem to be some sort of character assassination, maybe not on the large scale, but relative to George Webb's famousness. And I feel like I'm trying to be as non-biased as possible.
n/a SwenKa 2017-05-30
Copied my previous comment:
I mean, I hadn't even heard of him until the thread (yesterday?) where it was announced he made a conclusion. So it may be that many hadn't even known of him until then.
Can't scrutinize someone I don't know exists.
n/a chuugy14 2017-05-30
I've watched every one of the episodes going back & forth about what his purpose is. He solved the oil for arms ratline, the Awan brothers and now says he just needs to solve this Seth Rich case. Each one of these were going to bring down the whole deep state Hillary Clinton network. He admits to deleting all the ratline videos, deleted all his tweets and now has moved to periscope where people can no longer interact and most of his followers don't want to use it. After yesterday's fiasco I have awakened and am trying not to be too hard on myself for falling for this for MONTHS.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-05-30
I don't know if he deleted his tweets but he definitely did not delete his youtube videos just go to his youtube and click on playlists they are all there. He is saying he will leave periscope and go to youtube live once he and Jason figure it out. also you can interact with him on periscope he is taking peoples questions on there.
n/a iceboob 2017-05-30
yes, shills practically live on this subreddit.
n/a needleRick11 2017-05-30
•He hasn't made any connections and just rambles on.
If this is a character assassination then I'm guilty of this.
n/a Captain_____Obvious_ 2017-05-30
Exactly. For a lot of people this was their first exposure to him and they just said what they thought. He takes a bit of getting used to and if you start watching him without any context he can seem like the crazy guy in A Beautiful Mind with his wall of newspaper clippings
n/a MessisTaxAccountant 2017-05-30
Or he is the crazy guy, we can't rule it out either.
n/a Captain_____Obvious_ 2017-05-30
When I first watched him I was sure he was crazy, now I'm less certain.
n/a PM_MEMONEYYY 2017-05-30
Nobody is disputing his information. The comments in this thread are either calling him a nobody who has nothing, a kook seeking for views and attention, or they just outright don't like him but have never seen any of his videos. Nobody has yet cited any evidence to prove him wrong, yet in his videos he cites exactly where he gets his information. Now that he's on periscope he's revealed some of his "sources" and is putting faces and names to his information.
I have yet to see a comment that proves that what he's doing is factually wrong. I've only seen opionated comments.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-05-30
Thank you! You get what I'm saying!
n/a PM_MEMONEYYY 2017-05-30
I don't like to use the word "shill" or "votebot". It's not a good look. You have to fight this fight with facts. Use their own words against them. Keep it simple and refrain from using your opinion. We all know that certain groups try and control the comment sections or derail the conversation but i found it easy to just use their words against them or facts. You'll never win an argument against people like them because it's their job to keep you from investing your time in real debate and conversations so if you feel their just trying to get under your skin then just ignore them.
n/a CelineHagbard 2017-05-30
I've followed Webb off and on since around day 100. I don't really have the time to watch all of his videos, and I'm not that big a fan of his presentation style. That's not to say I discount his info—it might be true—but the format is hard to follow without devoting dozens, maybe hundreds of hours to it.
I read over the other thread today, about him claiming he knows who killed Seth Rich, but what I couldn't find was what the actual claims and sources for these claims was. When people asked for this information, they were told to go and watch his videos, starting at 219.1. When people noted that he was making logical leaps, they were told to go and watch his earlier videos.
It's been several hours since I was on that thread, but I've yet to see a clearly written out thesis with supporting evidence. Sure, some people are trying to discredit him just to take heat off of the DNC and associated actors. I get that.
But some of us are looking to see what it is he's actually claiming and what evidence he has to back it up. I know /r/truthleaks was doing some summarization and outlining of his points, but is there a writeup with links that explains his thinking behind these latest claims?
n/a MessisTaxAccountant 2017-05-30
Go look at the thread this one references. Plenty of people pointing out holes in Georgie's theories. Hell, I've been one of them.
It's fine to have a theory, it worries me more that people are calling anyone who actually looks for those holes a "shill".
n/a Negatonone 2017-05-30
I really truly think there are true shills among us, they know if you come out and say anything against Trump you get immediately banned so they go about it in a discreet way. They're easy to spot.
n/a wrectem 2017-05-30
Alpha Jalloh.
n/a margaritavilllll 2017-05-30
I simply am not 100% ok with George Webb.
still skeptical. Nothing personal. I dont trust anybody.
either way hes a talented and intelligent guy.
If hes honestly a self funded investigator with connections like he claims, all this free time, no work hours lol, hasn't been assassinated yet, then he is a brilliant investigator and deserves my respect for awakening the masss. I would love to believe this.
If not, he's a very talented and convincing actor, much like Alex Jones, keeps his cool when he needs to, knows how to garner support and trust from "every-folk". Sociopath or not, that takes talent.
I Would NOT just yet take his word as the gospel. stay skeptical of him too.
There was a time when I thought AJ was the most real human being ever. now I know better. I grew up and I learned.
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-30
He's a member of intelligence, yo.
I feel like I'm a broken record with this, but it's news that just came out and casts a whole different light on who he is.
At this point I find it more interesting to assess why this information is being dispersed to the public, since I don't doubt Webb's veracity based on my own research into organ harvesting rings, the people he cites and associates himself with (Sibel Edmonds, for example), and what I've studied about the Clinton family through Wikileaks and elsewhere. I get it if others aren't there with him, but it's a judgment call I'm personally comfortable with making.
n/a DorsalMorsel 2017-05-30
I don't understand these attempts to portray PizzaGate as some kind of huge debunked embarrassment to the conspiracy theorists. Podesta and his friends wrote a bunch of creepy stuff and were obviously, obviously speaking in some kind of code. This code happens to be the FBI designated terminology that pedos used. Again, these are people obviously, obviously speaking in code. If they weren't talking about pedophilia, then what was it, and was it likely not something similarly repugnant?
n/a Haterade_1010 2017-05-30
Exactly, if these people would have come out and addressed the issue, then maybe it'd be possible to believe they aren't hiding something. Podesta has never once fully addressed the code speak in many of his emails, and James Pizzagate has never addressed the creepy Instagram/calling a child a hotard.
n/a Metabro 2017-05-30
I watched a lot of stuff and was unconvinced. I'd be into revisiting it.
I'm sure that now that we can look backward a bit, that there are some good solid recaps that are very clear and concise, that I didn't have a chance to see before.
Do you have any links that might help me in understanding your point of view better?
n/a Spartan1117 2017-05-30
i thought the code came from 4chan not fbi
n/a captainredbeard135 2017-05-30
Y'all are lunatics and a threat to civilization.
n/a Ieuan1996 2017-05-30
Et voila
n/a CelineHagbard 2017-05-30
Removed. Rule 10. First warning.
n/a xAekov 2017-05-30
Why is this Seth Rich stuff so important? Anyone with half a brain knew Russia didn't hack the Emails. You can't wake an entire country, too many idiots and people who don't care. Our government was FOUNDED on corruption. There are bigger things then this coming, like say August 21 and Sept 23rd.
n/a awake283 2017-05-30
What's the significance of those dates ...?
n/a xAekov 2017-05-30
The total eclipse, last time here was 1776 our creation. In August it happens again and in 7 years will do the same. 2x in 240 years.
n/a cantsay 2017-05-30
yeah, huh?
n/a pumpkin_munter 2017-05-30
Ad Hominem, the second most boring fallacy.
n/a Haterade_1010 2017-05-30
If somebody could take Webb's videos and summarize them into 60 second summaries, that would be tremendously helpful. Even summarized, I'd still have 3+ hours to watch. Dude's got a lot of long videos and they are not easy to follow, especially if you don't start from the beginning.
That being said, I'd agree there is something fishy with the Rich reactions. Reminds me of Andrew Breitbart, when they had bot Twitter accounts posting about his supposed cocaine use.
n/a anayakii 2017-05-30
Maybe because people dont like A. breitbart? If I had the spare time I would love to make a twitter bot spreading that shit about him.
n/a Addisonavery 2017-05-30
Even if none of his stuff is true which I don't believe it's better than any season of house of cards on Netflix. He has said many times in his videos that people from intelligence agencies feed him breadcrumbs. Today when he revealed the mossad connection he was pretty scared and let some info slip that he now regrets and is trying to take back. I think he really thought there was a good chance he would die today. The first periscope video after he got out confirms that. Poor Jason. Jesus being red pilled so quickly took a toll on him.
n/a Twistntie 2017-05-30
I have information that would put Hillary and William Clinton in prison. If I die in the next ten years it wasn't a suicide they murdered me.
n/a CelineHagbard 2017-05-30
Removed. Rule 5.
n/a calisgett 2017-05-30
Why can't people be critical of any new info, or are we suppose to go "YES GREAT WORK OP WE CRACKED IT GOOD JOB ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IS A SHILL"
I don't think there is anything disingenuous here, maybe people have a more critical opinion on who George Webb and don't accept everything that's on the first page.
Just don't assume someone who disagrees with you is a shill.
n/a Plagiieren 2017-05-30
because if you're skeptical you're a shill, you dirty dirty shill, too be fair their was a lot of nonsense in the other thread, but lets be honest, its the same fucking nonsense thats in every god damn thread these days
n/a cholera_or_gonorrhea 2017-05-30
I definitely don't think people who disagree are shills.
But how is a discussion possible if the main argument made by the other party is, "he just rambles like a schizophrenic"?
n/a sickofallofyou 2017-05-30
The only defense they have are strawman attacks. Because they're guilty as fuck.
n/a okieghost 2017-05-30
We call that "ShariaBlue" over in t_d
n/a Bobbafeck 2017-05-30
Shariablue does not exist.
n/a okieghost 2017-05-30
Obviously. ShareBlue does, however.
n/a Gkender 2017-05-30
Isn't that to be expected? When one's profile is raised, he'll naturally accrue more attention from both potential fans and potential foes. This ain't new in social dynamics..
n/a zep2floyd 2017-05-30
It's a good day when I see George webb on top of r/conspiracy
n/a Disrupturous 2017-05-30
All research is being done at Wisconsin's version of Waffle House.
n/a Absolut00 2017-05-30
Character assassination is the modern burning at the stake.
n/a Jabiluka 2017-05-30
http://smoloko.com/wp-content/uploads/JewsImpeachTrumpHenryFordQuoteMeme.jpg
n/a AllTheWayTrump 2017-05-30
How long before SJW's demand that The Ford Motor Co. change their name?
n/a SmedleysButler 2017-05-30
If they're anything like the last post they are incoherent rants. I think the Seth Rich murder stinks but this guy sounds just as bad as Alex Jones. If you want someone to believe you on Rich this guy gives you zero credibility.
n/a Glidsy 2017-05-30
This guy is on target do your own research on all these characters and you will know. Stupid people man unbelievable it's black and white! Alex Jones you are a dumb person all he's crazy conspiracies have come true so either he's crazy or he's right well 80 million listeners says he's rt.
n/a SmedleysButler 2017-05-30
Anyone who visits this sub on a regular basis knows Alex Jones is full of shit. He hired Roger Stone and has been sucking Trumps dick for a year and a half now. I can see why you enjoy this guys incoherent rants though....right up your alley.
n/a Sanquich 2017-05-30
Wow this is actually being upvoted? Good to see.
n/a SkullatorNZ 2017-05-30
I'll just say this as somebody who was watched less than 3 of his videos.
He mentioned in one of his most recent uploads that he had to offer an apology to mr Dotcom, he then said 'I knew that the FBI flipped you' but you've really turned things around now that you're involved with this Seth rich thing.
This is red flags against his credibility. As somebody from New Zealand who has met with and spent a decent amount of time around him and his political party, Kim has absolutely had nothing to do with the FBI and strongly opposed the recent Comey lead FBI. Even going as far as filing complaints to the NZ police when Comey arrived in NZ to try to have have him held accountable by New Zealand law for his unlawful behaviour against Kim and mega etc (lol fat chance right? but still funny and I give him credit for taking the time to do it formally)
What this means to me anyway is that this guy is at least capable of rambling about things he has no idea about as if they are factual and 100% real
Don't get me wrong, I want justice for Seth rich but I'm not sure about this guy being credible for the movement.. Happy to be proven wrong as like I say, I haven't seen much of his stuff.
Sethrich.info is nice though.
n/a BoxingMMA 2017-05-30
Kim DotCom was on @csthetruth Periscope last night supporting their work, so he knows the deal and is comfortable with GW
n/a asdfasdfasfeewfwef 2017-05-30
satan lives
n/a the1andonlyreal1 2017-05-30
So umm is this gonna come to the same conclusion as all those Pizza pedophiles that were gonna get arrested? Pizzagate, sethrichagate? Meh
n/a Gravybadger 2017-05-30
Jillian Assange? Is he taking Chelsea Manning's queue?
I think Jillian Assange would be a qt3.14.
n/a What_The_Welsh_Eat 2017-05-30
Strategy could have been coordinated with others.
He should have known their strategy to ignore him would only last so long.
He shouldn't have done it alone - 10 leakers all leaking at the same time solves the problem.
n/a hey_jose 2017-05-30
He doesn't even have ad's on any of his videos. Pretty sure he's not making a dime off any of the videos. Saying he did it for the clicks isn't accurate, but I've seen that being thrown around as a reason he has been providing content.
n/a Nomandate 2017-05-30
Begins? Ha! Either way, people can't fling shit at you if they don't see you. Pop your head up, though, and (surprisingly) you're a target now. It's doesn't seem complicated.
n/a YoshiTakimatsui 2017-05-30
He basically admitted in video yesterday that he worked for the good mossad, or they were at least feeding him intel, directing him, he admitted to have connections to the old mossad guard. Make of it what you will, i personally like what he is doing.
n/a Wasabifartjuice 2017-05-30
Lol, this Seth Rich thing is still a thing, hahahaha!
n/a blette 2017-05-30
Jillian Assange????
Now they are accusing the leader of Wikileaks of getting a sex change? They already said he is a woman hater, rapist, child-molester, cloned, Russian double agent...
Accusing him of being a transsexual would not be a surprise.
n/a spore_attic 2017-05-30
I don't understand the point of this?
Are you just here for entertainment? If you really believe this, how you could be posting it here is beyond me...
Literally, there is no way for you to verify anything, and yet you broadcast...
Seriously, if you submit to the idea that we are being watched and controlled, then this is futile.
n/a SwenKa 2017-05-30
I mean, I hadn't even heard of him until the thread (yesterday?) where it was announced he made a conclusion. So it may be that many hadn't even known of him until then.
n/a harrycontrary 2017-05-30
The very thing that would make his theory compelling is a strong link between his "connected dots". But this is where he seems to fail, as those are always nebulous or outright omitted. "We'll see footprints" is not a convincing way to marry theory to fact. What footprints, when will they be shown, how will they connect these two persons or events? He seems to remain purposefully ambiguous in order to spin a story that he wrote the end to already.
n/a ENDLESSBLOCKADEZ 2017-05-30
Honestly the shills in this thread are fucking disgusting
n/a agentfaux 2017-05-30
What this sub needs is a shill FAQ sticky.
n/a mystrybbyln 2017-05-30
Where is he and Jason Goodman??? George was cornered in his hotel room waiting to be picked up and transported to the Russian consulate and the video stopped. And neither he nor Jason Goodman have been heard from again?????
n/a mystrybbyln 2017-05-30
Oh, i see he went live on Pscope. They are blocking his and jason's youtube so had to go to other format. Thank goodness. Thought the goon's got to him.
n/a Strontium_9O 2017-05-30
Yeah I thought it was odd that he released videos every few hours for weeks, and then the day I start watching he has a 24 hour gap between videos.
I think he may have hit a nerve.
n/a Naidem 2017-05-30
It's almost like once someone starts getting more popular, more people begin commenting on him. This sub needs a lesson correlation and causation.
n/a ButtBlastoise 2017-05-30
George Webb is a deep state shill who is misdirecting people the mob is in on it, the dnc is in on it, the same people who killed Kennedy had Seth Rich dealt with. I'm beginning to think the media will start siding with Trump if that's what it takes to sweep this under the rug. Some social media platforms have already ran some pro trump fluff pieces which is a vast departure from all the vitriol. The Russian narrative is evaporating. It's all misdirection to get us to close up shop and stop snooping around looking for clues. With that said, don't stop the investigation, keep connecting the dots and don't trust any of these fake ads e-celebs.
n/a Grumpy_Aussie 2017-05-30
It appears that most of what Webb 'discovered' has been online since 13 July 2016, written 3 days after Rich was killed, and over 1 month before Assange revealed Seth Rich in the Netherlands interview. http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index2071.htm
What is really weird is that most stories on this site are completely crazy, and every story is prefaced by "A somber Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) report circulating in the Kremlin today ..." or some variant with "the Russian Foreign Ministry etc."
Since every story comes from an unknown Russian report of one sort or another, most of them are bordering on crazy, why does this post appear to connect all the dots? The key point here is that contrary to the public reports from not only the Washington Post, but also RT, the Russian Foreign Ministry, the Kremlin site, that a tit-for-tat expulsion of two Russian diplomats from the US, and two US diplomats being sent back from Moscow, at or around the 6-7 July 2016, being the fallout from a bizarre incident outside the US embassy in Moscow a month earlier on June 6, that the expulsion of the two Russians from DC was connected to Seth Rich.
The story says that Russian intelligence was monitoring traffic around the DNC and they detected a surge of activity between Seth Rich, the DNC and the Clinton Foundation, and they quickly realised that Seth Rich was possibly being targeted for a hit. It says that permission was obtained from the highest level to break cover and inform the State Department of the activity, and that Rich may be in danger. But after doing so, the agents were surprised that the State Department simply expelled them from the US, saying that not to worry, the US will take care of it. This then triggered the Russians to expel two US diplomats, one reportedly being the agent involved in the June 6 incident outside the Embassy in Moscow.
I have scoured the Russian web using Yandex looking at blogs, news sites and there was not even chatter about this unreported version of events. The first time the Russian web even mentions Seth Rich was after Assange spoke in early August.
Its possible that someone invented this extra connection between the Russian diplomats, a secret report, and a warning to the State Department. Everything else, including the DC shootout allegedly involving Aloah Jarroh on July 9, checks out.
So is Webb secretly behind the website? Where is the evidence for the supposed warning to the State Department, as the reason for the diplomats' expulsion. Any why on a site that regularly predicts the end of the world, every other week?
I admit, I have no fucking clue.
n/a maxdembo 2017-05-30
People were talking shit about him from about 10 videos in tbf. I didn't watch his vids for awhile as he was called a disinfo agent on here quite heavily at the start.
n/a Glidsy 2017-05-30
Alex is crazy? Fair enough humorous but fair enough.
n/a Glidsy 2017-05-30
So just to get this straight 67 million listeners a week ok how many listen to what you have to say...10 tops yeah I'll go with Alex.
n/a rodguy911 2017-05-30
Having watched over 200 of George Webb's videos I find him one of the utmost brilliant citizen journalists of our times. What people have trouble with is unedited video. They don't know how to handle it.So they attack the producer out of frustration which just shows how ignorant or trollish they are.
n/a libertyant 2017-05-30
were the Awan brothers not being investigated already at that point?
n/a libertyant 2017-05-30
personally i dont necessarily advocate against him. for many it is a better form of consumption of information. i prefer mine via /pol/ because its more entertaining.
n/a mki401 2017-05-30
"connects the dots" aka makes HUGE logical leaps and makes up bullshit
n/a DstopianParadise 2017-05-30
Webb does give credit, not always by name but I've seen him thank people who pass info and links in the comments section of his YT vids. There's usually a lot of interesting information in the comments section too.
n/a chukklhed 2017-05-30
I think Bernie sanders would disagree. Here you are making broad generalizations about an entire subset of citizens whose politics are, I'm guessing, contrary to your own.
n/a fuster_cluq 2017-05-30
You should probably watch some of his videos before coming to conclusions about the authenticity of his work
n/a Ieuan1996 2017-05-30
Et voila
n/a kneeonbelly 2017-05-30
You're absolutely right. Sensationalism, misdirection, a skewed focus on violence and the negative. These are the tools that the mainstream media use to simultaneously create a climate of fear and to keep people averting their eyes from the big picture. I mean how often on the news do we hear about a community that came together today to solve a problem or better each other? Those kinds of things happen every day. But the focus is on almost nothing other than death and violence: war and terrorism abroad, domestic terrorism and police brutality in the country, rape and murder in the communities. This kind of skewed narrative has real power to shape and program people if they keep letting themselves be infected by it (watching TV). The human spirit is never given the chance to be empowered by what we see on the news. The mainstream media is the real Fake News.
"Just look at us. Everything is backwards, everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, psychiatrists destroy minds, scientists destroy truth, major media destroys information, religions destroy spirituality and governments destroy freedom."
n/a Gkender 2017-05-30
oh shit he got people to tweet
n/a Metabro 2017-05-30
I read this in Butters' voice:
n/a CelineHagbard 2017-05-30
Removed. Rule 10. First warning.
n/a SuperFestigio 2017-05-30
Oh, sorry, I meant it as an addendum to what you had said, not a correction!
I learned it awhile back and it doesn't come up often, so I figured I'd share.
:)
n/a Nomandate 2017-05-30
Listen, we can't have a Seth rich circlejerk if you keep throwing sand in the lube.
n/a faultydesign 2017-05-30
TL;DR I want to properly have written text to verify instead of 300 days of video that nobody got time to parse through.
I mean, if he's so right why is he afraid to write down the information?