Working theory on the alleged Seth Rich thumb drive files

17  2017-06-02 by [deleted]

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That seems to be the early talking point with no credence whatsoever. For anybody to say these are all old files less than two hours after being released are either an actual robot such as IBMs Watson or are full of bs.

Either that or they ran a diff on the files and could see that they were the same extracted ones from the Guccifer 2.0 7z torrent, but were re-archived into a zip file.

Like a checksum maybe?

What do you think of my edit?

I think if there is anything new then that's the most likely possibility. As in a lot of the same DNC emails, but a little bit more than what we saw with "Guccifer 2.0". I've always had the thought that Guccifer 2.0 was a fake hack when the DNC first tried to cover it all up. They got intel along the way that there was a leak within the DNC, possibly multiple, from a bunch of pissed off Bernie supporters. They possibly unmasked some of these people, such as Seth Rich and Gavin Mcfadyen. Both who ended up dead before the election was over. And we now know that the DNC was not against unmasking even Donald Trump and his campaign. Whose to say they didn't unmask the lesser known.

Other pissed off Bernie supporters instead went for a lawsuit, which is where I believe Shawn Lucas comes into the picture with him serving the DNC with a Lawsuit. Now why would a class action lawsuit already be drawn up at the end of June? There's definitely reason to believe that there might have been correspondence between the DNC leakers and Bernie supporters within the DNC. I mean they rigged their primary after all and supporters of Bernie have every right to be angry. The DNC had a mess on their hands and the way Shawn Lucas publicized the lawsuit, must have pissed off a ton of people. The DNC is still trying to hide the lawsuit to this day.

This is my working theory for now.

It should be noted that George Webb is not a conservative at all, at least that's the vibe I'm getting from him. He also has mentioned that he at some point worked with Wikileaks early on, way before all this so he has an inkling of how the data is passed around.

Hey thanks! I think we can both agree that Seth Rich was not the victim of a random botched robbery.

Yeah exactly. More like a botched kidnapping or hit.

Here's a theory - the donald wants this pushed out and the bots are helping that here.

Why? Simple. If you repeat something enough people will simply believe it. And most people don't have the time to read through everything. so push a headline that says what you want people to believe, keep pushing, give it a break, push it again. Then add more - the threads here being dnc/dem bashing truth or not.

Old propaganda technique and easily accomplished by dupes in a small tent party where opposition to gospel is a sin.

RES

Yeah this one is so obvious, I see them everywhere pushing the same MSM narrative. It's kind of hilariously idiotic that they come to a conspiracy forum where most legitimate users know for a fact that the MSM lies constantly to push narratives, then try to push the same narrative. Once you've woken up to the illusion the same old tricks can't fool you anymore. Just seems like a waste of money and energy to do that shit here where many see straight through it. Anyways, good day!

It's not necessarily geared toward the everyday conspiracy guys. It's for those who are curious, but have not got to the same point of breaking the MSM illusion that not all that's being said is true. They are easier to herd back into the same mindset.

One thing that set me on the path of seeing through the MSM, is seeing what other countries are saying. To believe that only truth comes from America is short-sighted. You'd be surprised how some world events are covered very differently than they are here. You'd also be surprised what American media doesn't even discuss in world politics (like South Korea's own occult scandal).

Suppression and manipulation of facts seems to be American media's bread and butter.

The suppression of the SK fiasco in US media was laughable.

Also when Hillary collapsed on 9/11. I'll get labeled as a partisan hack for bringing it up but that whole event and the ensuing spin was utterly ridiculous.

The primaries are what made me realize the fucked up connection between dc and the msm.

Yeah. The last 8 years have been a simultaneous war on independent journalism and state takeover of an entire country's media/press.

They made it legal to spread propaganda. They made it legal for elected and non-elected officials to lie to the public.

the donald wants this pushed out and the bots are helping that here.

The_D is blocking posts related to Seth Rich.

These people are delusional lol

I say Orwellian is the better word for it.

Wait, so what was released? I went to bed before I heard anything, and now there is nothing about it. Was it the same leaks as before?

Did you read my post?

I am currently trying to determine the same. I did not download the files. I am just trying to summarize what has been suggested and hopefully more people can weigh in.

I think we can all agree that regardless of political beliefs this Seth Rich stuff needs a conclusion.

Thank you for that

Unless you get the two sets, who do you trust?

I, e.g., said earlier, that the files were newer, but I might have been mistaken. Please verify independently!

I can't argue with anything you've said. I agree. However I don't feel comfortable potentially compromising my devices as I can't easily replace them financially at this time.

I want to at least give it a day to play out before I explore possibly doing my own verification.

I figured I could at least help out a bit by making this that to facilitate some discussion

RES?

Reddit Enhancement Suite. It's an extension that lets you tag users who display certain repeated behaviors so you can remember them in future threads.

My comment "RES" is my alternative to breaking Rule 10.

If you'll notice they didn't respond, but other users have apparently noticed a similar pattern that I noticed in this example.

Thanks, I got the sense that this is what you're talking about, but I wasn't sure.

In that light, I certainly agree. Seems pretty RESy to me too.

You didn't read the files, but you've formulated opinions and a theory behind them, and you're waiting for some posts on a public forum or clickbait article to be posted to confirm this theory, because those who will confirm anything definitely read through the files and wouldn't have any reason to be misleading/bullshitting?

Thanks for your reply. Do you have any other observations you'd like to share?

Also feel free to keep ridiculing me for being open and honest too. That is a good strategy.

Not trying to ridicule, but I am trying to point out the issue with pushing a narrative that may not exist but can incubate in this type of environment more easily by entities that would put the work in to do so..

"working theory" "alleged"

I see your point but I don't feel like I'm being disingenuous.

I assure you I am just one person I have no idea who anyone else is on Reddit nor do I talk to any of my family members about any of this stuff. So yeah I guess I can apologize for trying to prove/disprove my own personal narrative of that's what it takes. I'm sorry.

Again, not really coming at you directly.. your post was just the "feather on the camels back." It's been nonstop conjecture from either side.

And I should apologize..you were blatant with your disclaimers in OP and others here..

Sounds about right. I kept telling them to look for themselves, but they George Webb supporters either don't see smart enough to check anything themselves or they know his content is take and they are Watson bots trying to spread disinformation in an attempt to help Trump's campaign.

Or they have a family, a job, pets, friends, dietary requirements, a need for sleep, and no desire to download files off of Dropbox related to a murdered election staffer.

Who knows though.

Yeah. No desire cause you are afraid of what? Stop playing games. Legitimately what is the worst that can happen from downloading a zip file and extracting it yourself?

I honestly have no idea what could happen. I don't know if George Webb and these other people are spooks or not. I don't know what kind of files could potentially make their way into my computer. I don't know how it works. I was hoping someone else with more knowledge and experience with this stuff could help out.

You should legitimately learn so you can make those decisions yourself. Asking someone else to do it for you is asking to be manipulated.

I agree completely. And I am ashamed and disappointed in myself for not "waking up" to this kind of stuff sooner. It's clearly going to be extremely valuable in the future assuming our society doesn't collapse into itself like a dying star.

Is this confirmed to be Seths thumb drive? I haven't seen anything solid about this except Webb getting drunk on live stream and shouting about stuff...

I wish I knew. Hopefully some more courageous and technically savvy posters are going to wake up soon and see my post or make another post.

There were a lot of people trying to download the files last night.

You should legitimately learn so you can make those decisions yourself. Asking someone else to do it for you is asking to be manipulated.

The primaries are what made me realize the fucked up connection between dc and the msm.