English Spelling
7 2017-06-06 by wheretobe3
So I have a rather loose theory, hypothesis, whatever you want to call it, I was wondering if y'all could help me tidy it up a bit, pull the pieces of my fleeting thought into something a little more coherent.
The gist of it is this: spelling. Words, when broken down, have particular hidden meanings in them, often they invoke certain deities or archetypes. Having watched American Gods recently, the thought came to the fore of my mind as Wednesday, Woden, or Odin, is a lead character, it made me wonder how many other words have intricately woven meanings hidden inside of them.
I wonder if these words hold a certain power over our minds, led so easily astray, as they are by subtle symbology and meanings buried deep within our subconscious. Do we give power to the old gods with ever word we speak? Do the repetitions of certain phrases have an affect on the physical structure of our reality, or the very least, the consensus reality of our psychic projections as a species?
I apologise if this post lacks coherency, it's a bit of a run on thought to be honest, but it seems like an interesting topic of discussion.
27 comments
n/a usernamenn 2017-06-06
I have discussed this very topic with people here before. It is very much a thing. The english language is encoded in ways we don't see; until we do. Then you can't ignore it.
n/a elcad 2017-06-06
Some Christians have been against the standard month and day names all along: http://iymc.org/calendarnames.html
n/a 64b65h6h 2017-06-06
I like this, but why wouldn't Sunday be Seventh Day?
n/a elcad 2017-06-06
Saturday is the Sabbath. Sabbath comes from the Hebrew words for seventh day.
Sunday is the Lord's Day, except that many including the Quaker's think everyday is the Lord's Day. Some's churches also refer to it as the 8th day. Some do think that Sunday is now the new Sabbath, but they are wrong. Jesus never said that.
n/a tedsmitts 2017-06-06
All of the days of the week are named after things. Planets in romance languages, gods in Germanic languages. English is kind of a mix of both, because of how English works.
http://www.livescience.com/45432-days-of-the-week.html
n/a wheretobe3 2017-06-06
Yeah, Woden was just one example. The whole english language seems to be peppered with subtle, hidden meaning.
I occured to me again the other day when I was saying hello, and how awful of a greeting that really is.
n/a safe_as_milk 2017-06-06
hello was invented for the telephone, but you maybe onto something there, why choose such an obviously satanic word
n/a tedsmitts 2017-06-06
I mean, it was that or Ahoy-hoy. Hello wasn't really popular before the invention of the telephone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello#Etymology
If you're interested in this sort of thing, it's worth studying etymology and morphology - it's just kind of how language works in a human context. We're big on stories and symbols.
n/a wheretobe3 2017-06-06
I've been studying etymology somewhat for a little while, though not too seriously. I think I'll check those books out. Babel is something that crops up often.
n/a tedsmitts 2017-06-06
Power of Babel might be a little out of date as it was written before the internet became a thing, really. Though that only matters if you're interested in the effect of the internet on language. Probably a library or e-book rental, unless you find you like his style of writing.
n/a munchkin_9382 2017-06-06
But maybe hello was chosen because of the way the phone would bring people together like nothing seen sine the tower of Babel? People used to "Babel" if you will on the phone for hours.
n/a usernamenn 2017-06-06
Just imagine. I Magi in. I'm a djinn. Manifesting thought into reality. That's why we are fed negative all the time. Why are we all seeing through these things now? Because it's the end of daze.
n/a wheretobe3 2017-06-06
Yeah, this does follow with my idealist interpretation of reality. The maya brahman.
n/a usernamenn 2017-06-06
September 23rd, my friend. And then 7 years of hell on earth.
n/a vea_ariam 2017-06-06
Ok so speaking from experience; there are certainly linguistic coincidences in English and other languages. But if you're seeing meaning in phonemes or alphabets regularly it's likely a symptom of some mental illness. I used to be pretty big on numerology and reading between the lines of English. It's largely your mind thinking too conspiratorially.
n/a birdman5000 2017-06-06
Cop out. Phonemes are arguably the single best link to linguistic mutation across culture that we have, given that most people in times past couldn't read. And this is exactly what you see in language, and why the same names/concepts seem to transcend culture. Without trying to be too Jordan Maxwell, here's the oos phoneme : Zeus, Jesus, Dionysus, Horus, Tammuz. Each of which represents the same archetype. Similarly Set/Satan/Saturn/Shaitan. These aren't fluke patterns. They're far too consistent for that.
Same complaint as above. Number systems and the process of counting/arithmetic are consistent/repeatable/reversible symbolic mutation operations. The invention of a counting system is a prerequisite for encoding language, which is probably why we see Hebrew encoded sans vowels in the same way. No accident. It's not conspiracy thinking but simple observation of how language evolves from symbol.
n/a hoeskioeh 2017-06-06
If you can watch Alan Moore talk about him becoming a magician and explaining what he means by it. The excerpt I have in mind is about 10m long, about 25mins into one of his 1h interviews, "The mindset of Alan Moore", sorry, mobile, no link.
"Grimoire", a spell book... was a fancy way of saying "Grammar", and spelling... Something along those lines.
I think you would like it.
n/a wheretobe3 2017-06-06
I think I would, thank you for the suggestion.
n/a hoeskioeh 2017-06-06
Second item I liked in this manner: Snowcrash, a novel by Neal Stephenson. Early work, rather short.
His plot evolves around the rediscovery of the primal language, only known by early priest in Ur and Sumer to program (literally) he masses.
n/a tedsmitts 2017-06-06
Also featuring one of the worst character names possible. The Ur part is interesting though.
n/a birdman5000 2017-06-06
https://genius.com/Insane-clown-posse-miracles-lyrics
n/a safe_as_milk 2017-06-06
Bearing in mind we can alter our DNA with experiences
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fearful-memories-passed-down/
I wonder if it's possible to invoke emotions based on what our ancestors chanted (prayers/hymms)
n/a Kancer86 2017-06-06
it's called neurolinguistics, and it has a lot to do with cymatics and vibration/frequency. look into it.
n/a AFuckYou 2017-06-06
Om?
n/a ridestraight 2017-06-06
Jordan Maxwell a fast (14:41 video) explaining words and the meanings - very fascinating!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-SPcsfz0_E
n/a WestCoastHippy 2017-06-06
In general, I agree all around.
n/a Ilsaluna 2017-06-06
You're definitely on the right track. Here's an article that addresses what you've mentioned as well as some additional topics and how it weaves together.
The Magic of Words and Spelling
n/a safe_as_milk 2017-06-06
hello was invented for the telephone, but you maybe onto something there, why choose such an obviously satanic word
n/a tedsmitts 2017-06-06
I mean, it was that or Ahoy-hoy. Hello wasn't really popular before the invention of the telephone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello#Etymology
If you're interested in this sort of thing, it's worth studying etymology and morphology - it's just kind of how language works in a human context. We're big on stories and symbols.
n/a usernamenn 2017-06-06
Just imagine. I Magi in. I'm a djinn. Manifesting thought into reality. That's why we are fed negative all the time. Why are we all seeing through these things now? Because it's the end of daze.