Is there any evidence - flat earth is a 'pysop' ?
0 2017-06-06 by 435435435
One hears the phrase 'fe earth is a (CIA? NASA? FBI) psychological operations project to de legitimise 'proper' conspiracy theories ...
Is there any actually evidence of this buzz phrase or is it more just a feeling?
Interesting because it seems apparent to me the aliens thing is a more likely a psyop
106 comments
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
n/a soonerchad 2017-06-06
Nb4 flat earth post shit storm! BAM!
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
Don't worry in sure the globe heads will provide evidence o their claims FE being a CIA psychology operations program
n/a Awesomo3082 2017-06-06
Well, thanks. I was about to give a reasonable reply, but now that I know you're a flathead, I won't waste any "reasoning" on you. Back to YouTube, with you! That's where your psyop started in the summer/(spring?) of '15, after all.
n/a soonerchad 2017-06-06
Typical post response #124.
n/a Awesomo3082 2017-06-06
And even after 124,000 explanations, they refuse to listen to any evidence, math, or observation that proves flat Earth false. Weird, huh?
n/a soonerchad 2017-06-06
Yeah man. I mean every government organization lied to us about everything, except NASA. Amiright bro?
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
The nazis are NASA would not lie.
Thank you very much.
n/a WadeWilsonforPope 2017-06-06
What about every other countries space programs?
n/a Awesomo3082 2017-06-06
The Earth has been round for longer than NASA has been lying.
And if you're going to apply logic to this, please tell me just how this works...?
NASA lies about stuff.
.....
.....
Therefore, the Earth is flat!
Profit!!!
It looks like an abomination of logic to me, but maybe that's just because I had to take a couple classes on it, years ago...
n/a The_Noble_Lie 2017-06-06
I'm glad you are open minded enough to ponder about NASA not being up front with the public. Their deceptions using virtual and augmented reality are pretty clever, I must admit.
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
Globehead is just a word don't be so defensive.
Can you provide proof fe is a psyop ?
n/a Undertakerjoe 2017-06-06
Ah the spring of 15.... memories, memories.
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
People have thought the world was flat for thousands of years. You keep mentioning 2015 yet that's very vague and non proof like
n/a Norotom5 2017-06-06
People have also known the world is round for thousands of years. FE is simply one of the stupidest conspiracy theories out there.
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
Incorrect. Middle age and ancient human civilisations knew the world was flat with very few acceptions
Yet we are straying off track
n/a Norotom5 2017-06-06
False, Eratosthenes.
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
The weird ass Greeks were the aberration
They had other strange ideas too like making love to young children at the gymnasium
n/a Norotom5 2017-06-06
OK if Eratosthenes doesn't do it for you, then let's look at a personal favorite of mine, the more modern Léon Foucault who I prefer because of how relatively simple his experiment was.
n/a The_Noble_Lie 2017-06-06
The only valid explanation for the results of their experiments? How sure are you?
n/a Norotom5 2017-06-06
For Foucault 100% sure, Eratosthenes could maybe be explained by some weird spotlight sun thing.
But, Coriolis Forces we observe constantly behave in such a way that can only be explained by the Globe Earth Model.
n/a The_Noble_Lie 2017-06-06
What if I suggested there are other explanations for the universe in accordance with Focaults pendulum?
n/a Norotom5 2017-06-06
Well...
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
Born 1800s so neither ancient or middle age
Furthermore I'm fairly sure he was a member of, or strongly influenced by the society of Jesus that have been spreading the globe/fast moving myths for centuries.
Some example; the big bang inventor was a Jesuit.
China believes the world to be flat until jesuit intervention
n/a Norotom5 2017-06-06
Ah yes, Coriolis Forces are clearly just a Jesuit Conspiracy you have clearly opened my eyes to the truth /s.
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
This is much literature in regard to fe models disproving the coriolis effect.
Im specifically seeking evidence Of fe being a gov. Psychological operations as often claimed here
n/a Norotom5 2017-06-06
Ok, then explain how a Foucault Pendulum would work if the Coriolis Effect is bull crap.
In regards to it being a Psyop of some sort, considering that Foucault Pendulums prove the Earth is a spinning ball. People that push FE, are A. ignorant to the facts, B. too stupid to understand them, or C. pushing an obviously false conspiracy to discredit other Conspiracy Theorists (which is where the whole Psyops thing comes into play).
n/a Awesomo3082 2017-06-06
"Weird ass Greeks". With their "weird ass math". n stuff...
Funny, too, how a norotom can provide a specific example off the top of his head, and you... Well, whatever that thing you did there, was. Was that a Dodge? I don't even know what to call it.
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
The guy in question merely put two sticks in the ground and claimed to know the globe earths size. His calculations were wrong according to mainstream modern science.
I have some Greek background been I feel quite entitled to call them weird.
I don't believe it was a dodge merely highlighting the ancient Greeks oddities. Both in sexual practice and having a different world view (non flat earth) to the rest of the earths cultures.
n/a ObserverOfTruth 2017-06-06
If you assume the Sun is 150 million kilometers away, the Eratosthenes calculations are essentially correct.
Assumptions, of course, are not proof. The Eratosthenes measurements are equally consistent with a Sun 5,000 km away and a flat Earth.
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
He was wrong by 3/4%
He was off by 15% or so, If he wasnt using the Egyptian units. We are unsure.
Assume the earths a globe. Which of course it isn't.
The suns a lot smaller and closer than we've been told
n/a WaitTilUSeeMyDick 2017-06-06
jukes
Rolls a 1
Ineffective.
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
Facts remain Erato Mathis was wrong. Only the Greeks thought it a globe
n/a Undertakerjoe 2017-06-06
No I was just reminiscing w/ the guy above. Summer of 15 was great sent it w/ a blonde named Karen. The Earth might be flat, but her ass was round as fuck!
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
I am pleased to hear this.
n/a WadeWilsonforPope 2017-06-06
We have proof the world is round for thousands of years also.
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-06-06
Here ya go... CIA declared Flat Earth as faker than Bigfoot, UFOs, Atlantis, Loch Ness and the Abominable Snowman during Project Stargate research.
http://i.imgur.com/1gz8J4X.png
source - https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00792r000701020004-4
n/a soonerchad 2017-06-06
Document Creation Date: November 4, 2016 Document Release Date: May 17, 2000
Lol wut?
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-06-06
Yeah... I feel like the CIA got spanked for not actually releasing files that they were supposed to release... So the release dates are when it was supposed to come out... and the Creation date is when they actually got off their asses and put it on their website... the 2016 date... that's when they dumped like 10 million files to get caught up.
n/a soonerchad 2017-06-06
Ahhh gotcha
n/a Gaslightin 2017-06-06
Hahaha damn them. They got us good!
n/a soonerchad 2017-06-06
Where on that CIA page does it mention Flat Earth? Im looking but not seeing it.
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-06-06
CIA has one hell of a search bar... there were only 2 results for "flat earth" and the other one was some 116 page page technical document about the USSR that I don't really think I'm gonna read all the way thru to find out where it is mentioned... but this is the area surrounding the hit "we will restrict ourselves to a flat earth and close to flat- layered ionosphere with permittivity" so it is prolly just in reference to scientific modeling not bothering to take curvature into effect.
n/a soonerchad 2017-06-06
Right on. Very interesting thanks for replying.
n/a todd2124 2017-06-06
Or during the Cold War when the US and USSR were working together to try and break through the firmament by launching thousands of nukes at it and faking the space race...
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
Also while it's a bit interstitial it's not at all proof fe as a psyop
n/a jedi_princess1111 2017-06-06
Well, I've seen bigfoot and about 20 UFOs, so...
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-06-06
I always assumed that it would be racist to divide Bigfoot and the Abominable Snowman into two different categories... that snowman is just a white bigfoot.
n/a jedi_princess1111 2017-06-06
Albino bigfoot genetic anomaly?
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-06-06
More like the difference between polar bears and grizzly bears.
n/a jedi_princess1111 2017-06-06
Abominable snowmen are always portrayed as being scary carnivores. The sasquatch I saw looked like Harry from Harry and the Henderson's. No joke
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-06-06
Maybe the one you saw just had a full belly or else he'd be looking to scarf ya down too.
n/a jedi_princess1111 2017-06-06
Naw, I had Fuzzy Butt the wonder dog with me for protection. Besides, there are no scary monsters here in the shire...
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-06-06
Too cold here... if I ever bump into something it is gonna be a Wendigo...
n/a jedi_princess1111 2017-06-06
I'm pretty sure his contract is up on this timeline...lol
You probably have sasquatch, little people like fairies and leprechauns, and...what is this, flannel wearing goat men?
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-06-06
Everyone wears flannel up here... I blame LL Bean... I have seen a lot of fairy houses but I'm guessing they were made by children cause they were always very poorly designed.
n/a jedi_princess1111 2017-06-06
I was hiking on the rimrocks in Billings, MT, near Zimmerman Trail and as we walked out there were little tiny footprints in the dust on the trail that weren't there when we walked in. Like little person footprints about 2" long.
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-06-06
Leprechauns... Chucky? I dunno!
n/a jedi_princess1111 2017-06-06
Coulda been Chucky, it was the 90s and it was a bit far from the Emerald Isle
n/a Undertakerjoe 2017-06-06
If climate change is real & the earth is flat, the rising sea levels would only be temporary. Once all the ice melted the water would simply run over the side.
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
Na
n/a Undertakerjoe 2017-06-06
Come on. Could be.
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
Could be not also
n/a Ninjakick666 2017-06-06
Thats why the elites are making such a big deal out of global warming... if the ice ring melts all the water just pours off the side and we are stuck in a crazy Mad Max world.
n/a Undertakerjoe 2017-06-06
WHO RUNS BARTER TOWN!
n/a JUSTIN_HERGINA 2017-06-06
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/roadwarrior/images/6/6d/Master_Blaster.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150715152956
n/a JUSTIN_HERGINA 2017-06-06
But by that logic, the 'earth' would disappear under ice and level out with the surrounding ice, and the entire ice mass level would only go Down a few percent.
n/a Undertakerjoe 2017-06-06
You godammed right he does!
n/a soonerchad 2017-06-06
Nope
n/a Undertakerjoe 2017-06-06
It could, what would stop it?
n/a soonerchad 2017-06-06
This should answer your question. I think.
https://planetruthblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/fe-model-antarctic-earth.jpg
n/a Undertakerjoe 2017-06-06
That's a shit load of ice. Wouldn't that much frozen material counter act the warmth of the sun & just consume us?
n/a soonerchad 2017-06-06
The sun warms/melts the ice. Where the ice is on the outside is frozen because the suns heat can't get that far to melt it. The sun goes around and around it keeps the ice melted. The sun doesn't reach so much to the North Pole that's why its colder and ice there.
To answer your question directly; no because the suns heat can't reach that far.
n/a Undertakerjoe 2017-06-06
So if global warming melts the ice would we possibly get more land?
n/a soonerchad 2017-06-06
We would probably lose land that goes under water but it really depends what causes global warming? I don't believe in that so idk much about global warming.
n/a Undertakerjoe 2017-06-06
Yeah, I don't believe any of this crap. You guys are just more fun.
n/a soonerchad 2017-06-06
Cool
n/a Awesomo3082 2017-06-06
You do realize, right, that toward the North Pole, during the summer, the sun stays hovering in the sky, and doesn't set for months.
So, are you aware of how provably ridiculous this is?
n/a soonerchad 2017-06-06
Dude seriously you going to expect me to answer your question when you come at me like this? Fuck off
n/a Awesomo3082 2017-06-06
"Come at you like this"? What you said was absolute nonsense. Considering how amazingly false it was, I thought I was being pretty mellow about it...
"Fuck off".
And
"The sun doesn't reach so much to the North Pole that's why its colder and ice there."
Is this all we get from flat earthers?
n/a soonerchad 2017-06-06
Let me show you something. You are saying shit about the north pole but if you're trying to make that argument you should say the south pole. But you already know everything thing huh?? ?
n/a JUSTIN_HERGINA 2017-06-06
But by that logic, the 'earth' would disappear under ice and level out with the surrounding ice, and the entire ice mass level would only go Down a few percent.
n/a YoshiTakimatsui 2017-06-06
Do you trust the main people propagating it in the last few years? There is a lot of Adsense money being made. I think once it came at hot meme people tried to milk it for all its worth. There really is no new material coming out now that I think of it most of it is reacting to what the MSM is pumping it out with celebs and atheltes bringing it up. I'm honestly surprised it hasn't morphed into some other fake space meme at this point, I've just seen to many people debunk it where most flat earthers have no counter argument and just basically have to walk away since most are way in over there heads Scientificly. That concave earth guy on YouTube has been going since 2012 was just shutting them down when the live flat earth debates were happening on YouTube. The Google was a big factor in getting flat earth into so many people's faces.
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
It's quite possible the main people are purposely put forward as spokesman to de legitimise FE.
It's done often in other aspects; shills, disinformation agents, agents provocateurs. Like what happened with other movement like occupy.
I don't trust them know but I don't trust many people.
n/a Awesomo3082 2017-06-06
When was this stuff happening on YouTube, that you're referring to?
The time that I noticed YouTube shoving this crap in my face was late summer of '15, and I've heard a few others say that this was when they noticed the blitz, too. Anytime I'd go on YouTube, if I looked at any conspiracy-like topic, my recommended videos would be spammed with this flat Earth crap. It's mostly better now, but I know that I'm one misclick away from it being back in my recommended garbage. A couple weeks ago, I clicked a hollow earth video, and lo and behold, more "recommended" flatcrap for me to watch. Ugh...
n/a ItsAJackOff 2017-06-06
Your last sentence has already been proven false by missions to mars but you think mars is some hologram in the sky so what proof will you accept?
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
There are no robots on mars
It's done on a island off Canada or something
n/a Pass1ta1ready 2017-06-06
Proof for your claims please?
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
In regard to the moon landings being fake an such? Certainly will do after working for my Rothschild dollars
n/a WadeWilsonforPope 2017-06-06
Whats your proof?
How did I bounce a signal off the reflectors on the moon and used the delay to calculate the moons distance in college?
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-06-06
Just my opinion, but, I think it's there to discourage people from looking into other theories. I fancy a mixture of Expanding and Hollow Earth.
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
Always value your 2c PLC
unless your defining Fascim of course ;)
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-06-06
No problem. Also, if everyone agreed around here, what fun would that be? Cheers!
n/a justinxduff 2017-06-06
As yourself this first. Is there any evidence for a flat earth? Nope, there is none.
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
Looks flat. (even from the highest bits)
Feel motionless.
n/a justinxduff 2017-06-06
Got anything more empirical? That's hardly evidence.
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
2017 and there's been no scienctifc test proving earths moving as far a I know...
Ockhams razor would lead us to believe its flat and still - the more far fetched claims of the pear / fast multidirectional globe should bare the weight of required evidence
n/a justinxduff 2017-06-06
Occam"
So you have no empirical evidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIJRoj2qwsc
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
I earth looks and feel flat and still. By definition, that is empirical Evidence
We can calculate that objects should be hidden by the curvature of the earth, yet we can see them
n/a justinxduff 2017-06-06
Except the fact video I just posted disproves all of that.
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
I don't have te opportunity to watch your video currently yet it certainly doesn't disprove the empirical evidence - the earth looks flat as feels still
n/a WadeWilsonforPope 2017-06-06
Not really.
A pool ball looks and feels round but if you get even a weak microscope you will see its full of imperfections.
I would be curious for an example.
n/a eupf 2017-06-06
Foucalt's pendulum, 1851
n/a WadeWilsonforPope 2017-06-06
The coriolis effect would not be possible on a FE.
Focaults pendulum would not be possible.
n/a drwooo 2017-06-06
i hear this curvature bullshit all the time, and i will ask for numbers this time
what height does the object need to be? how much of it do you see? how far? what's the curvature and that distance? the height difference? and lastly, in the atmosphere, you know where we has all sorts of breathable gases like oxygen and nitrogen and whatnot and under normal weather conditions .... how far can you see? visibility? how far? and do the comparison for me ... can you even see far enough to see the no curvature ? no? ok.
numbers please.
n/a TimothyTWD 2017-06-06
To answer OP.
There is Evidence that 'Aliens' and 'Space' being a CIA psyop. It's even been said that many of the 'UFOS' are simply military crafts and many of them have been 'used' to specifically create buzz in the people.
To me it's obvious what the Psy-Op really is. In my mind, in any angle possible. The gov, is lying the military is lying.
They are either lying to cover up Aliens, or lying and trying to make People believe in Aliens if they don't exist.
In my books. There is no Possible outcome where Mainstream is not 100% full of shit. Pure lies.
n/a 435435435 2017-06-06
Lying, to make people believe in aliens.
I think
n/a WadeWilsonforPope 2017-06-06
I always recommend the documentary Mirage Men for people on this subject.
n/a WadeWilsonforPope 2017-06-06
Common sense.
n/a Undertakerjoe 2017-06-06
It could, what would stop it?
n/a The_Noble_Lie 2017-06-06
I'm glad you are open minded enough to ponder about NASA not being up front with the public. Their deceptions using virtual and augmented reality are pretty clever, I must admit.