Based on Comey's testimony today, why doesn't actiing AG Jeff Sessions indict and prosecute former AG Loretta Lynch for obstruction of justice in the Hillary Email investigation? She pressured Comey to call it a "matter" not an "investigation". Loretta Lynch should be in Prison for this.
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n/a LightBringerFlex 2017-06-08
I'll tell you why. It's because the people aren't demanding justice. We are just sitting behind computers while the Neo-Cons pray we remain quiet so they can keep getting away with horrific crimes against humanity.
n/a atlanticcity93 2017-06-08
bickering over semantics is illegal?
n/a jeffinRTP 2017-06-08
Because calling it a matter, investigation, or a pile of shit doesn't change what they were doing. Telling to go easy, lay off the investigation does.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-08
Ive said this once already in another thread but why is everyone ignoring that fact that Lynch said this AFTER the tarmac conversation with Bill Clinton?
BURR: Let me go back if I can very briefly to the decision to publicly go out with your results on the email. Was your decision influenced by the attorney general's tarmac meeting with the former president, Bill Clinton?
COMEY: Yes. In ultimately conclusive way that was the thing that capped it for me, that I had to do something separately to protect the credibility of the investigation, which meant both the FBI and the justice department.
BURR: Were there other things that contributed to that, that you can describe in an open session?
COMEY: There were other things that contributed to that. One significant item I can't but know the committee's been briefed on, there's been some public accounts of it which are nonsense but I understand the committee has been briefed on the classified facts. Probably the only other consideration that I guess I can talk about in open setting is that at one point the attorney general had directed me not to call it an investigation, but instead to call it a matter, which confused me and concerned me, but that was one of the bricks in the load that led me to conclude I have to step away from the department if we're to close this case credibly.
n/a jeffinRTP 2017-06-08
So he stepped away from the department and closed the case credibly. So she didn't tell him to step away from the investigation or go easy on her. He did not resign because he felt the AG did something wrong nor was he fired for investigating Clinton.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-08
Yeah but it's not about Comey here this is about Lynch and Bill Clinton trying to get the FBI to downplay an investigation into Bill's wife's investigation during her election.
n/a illumination_station 2017-06-08
So when Russia allegedly leaks verified DNC emails, it's interfering in an election, but when the FBI Director misleads the public regarding the investigation into the Democratic frontrunner, that's somehow a nothingburger?
n/a keeperofpigs 2017-06-08
Threatening them to stop the investigation would, simple suggestions will never hold up in court.
n/a jeffinRTP 2017-06-08
Trump made the threat to stop the investigation and then fired comely when he didn't. The AG asked/told him to call it something other then an investigation.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-08
This is incorrect, the Flynn investigation was over with by February 15th. They reviewed the transcripts of Flynns telephone calls and found no wrong doing. Trump fired Comey in May. Again Trump was under no investigation during this.
Here is an NPR article about the Flynn investigation.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/15/515437291/intelligence-official-transcripts-of-flynns-calls-dont-show-criminal-wrongdoing?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews
n/a Its-Space_time 2017-06-08
If that were the case, then Comey was legally bound to report that. But since he didn't, we know that he's lying or that isn't the case.
n/a jeffinRTP 2017-06-08
Do you have a reference to the law you are talking about?
n/a Its-Space_time 2017-06-08
18 USC 4
n/a amoebassassian 2017-06-08
They should all be in prison to be honest.
n/a maelstrom51 2017-06-08
Because then he's have to indict Trump, who instead of downplaying an investigation, attempted to end an investigation completely.
n/a rmwe 2017-06-08
This is the fifth or sixth post here claiming Lynch asking Comey to refer to the email investigation as a "matter" is the major takeaway from the testimony. If this is such an outrageous obstruction of justice and Lynch should be jailed over it, then what is your standard for Trump actually firing Comey over the Russian investigation (which, by the way predates the election, but was never the subject of FBI press releases during the campaign, unlike the Clinton investigation).
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-08
This is incorrect, the Flynn investigation was over with by February 15th. They reviewed the transcripts of Flynns telephone calls and found no wrong doing. Trump fired Comey in May. Again Trump was under no investigation during this. And if you are referring to Trump being investigated before the election then I am assuming you are talking about the Steele dossier which to this day has not been proven verified or factual and was paid for by supporters of Clinton.
Here is an NPR article about the Flynn investigation.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/15/515437291/intelligence-official-transcripts-of-flynns-calls-dont-show-criminal-wrongdoing?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fbi-once-planned-to-pay-former-british-spy-who-authored-controversial-trump-dossier/2017/02/28/896ab470-facc-11e6-9845-576c69081518_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_dossier-415pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.63b96dc2f8c6 Here is an article about where the Steele dossier originated from.
n/a rmwe 2017-06-08
Everything you just typed out is flatly wrong by the sworn testimony we just watched today. The Flynn investigation continues, the Steele dossier though partially unverified is still an aspect in an ongoing investigation. It was also originally commissioned by Republicans, not "Clinton supporters".
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-08
The dossier was not even discussed because it was "classified", if you can show me one article that shows verification of any aspect of it I would gladly read it. The dossier which is all about Trump and his alleged Russian ties if verified would obviously lead to a counter intelligence investigation into Trump which Comey stated does not exist. So I wonder what aspects of the dossier are correct if none of them can open an investigation into Trump?
The Flynn investigation into his phone calls with Russia is over they found no wrong doing. Now what you probably are referring to is a couple weeks ago when Flynn pled the 5th. This is to an investigation into the broad "Russian ties" of the Trump campaign. Flynn being in the Trump campaign was to come forward with his own information on his connections with Russia which he pled the 5th. What was discussed today in the hearing with Comey about Trump asking him to "let it go" was a discussion about Flynn's calls which again showed no wrong doing.
n/a iAintReddit 2017-06-08
You are right though, Trump ASKED Comey to investigate the dossier and Comey told HIM the optics would be bad. That to me verifies that there was no investigation into the dossier.
n/a ProfWhite 2017-06-08
Comey isn't capable of lying under oath?
n/a NSFRN 2017-06-08
He knows what would happen to him if it is proved that he was. He was the director of the FBI for almost 4 years, he knows the consequences of his actions.
n/a RocketSurgeon22 2017-06-08
She didn't pressure she suggested.
n/a iAintReddit 2017-06-08
She told him do it then he said excuse me? Then she said "Just call it a matter". That's pressure my dude.
n/a THE_BASS_TURD 2017-06-08
Bingo.
n/a Its-Space_time 2017-06-08
Furthermore, Comey is instructed by law to report on Trump should he obstruct.
Even further, Comey in precious testimony said Trump did not obstruct.
n/a RocketSurgeon22 2017-06-08
I am confused on why Comey threw Lynch under the bus. I feel like this was done intentionally because Comey is afraid that Trump knows something.
n/a RocketSurgeon22 2017-06-08
I do think Lynch was certainly playing politics and was wrong. I see your point there. Her statement was more direct.
Trump however - people forget. Trump was not under criminal investigation. To say I hope you can let this go - is very broad. I believe Trump was hinting more to Comey that he should leak to the press that he is not under investigation. I say that because Comey said Trump was wanting to get past this storm. When you are focused on conveying 1 message while talking about 2 things - the listeners interpret things completely different. But this isn't social justice - it was merely miscommunication and misunderstanding.
n/a iAintReddit 2017-06-08
They were referring to Flynn when they were speaking.
n/a RocketSurgeon22 2017-06-08
I know. I'm suggesting that Trump came in to talk about 1 thing - Flynn but had a 2nd objective - get comey to leak to the press that he isn't under investigation.
n/a iAintReddit 2017-06-08
I don't recall if this was brought up at all during the course of that day according to Comey. And it would be important for what you say if Comey said that it was mentioned before or after that date because it WAS mentioned I will agree with you on that.
n/a RocketSurgeon22 2017-06-08
I was multi-tasking at this time but recall someone asking Comey why did he feel Trump was actively trying to communicate and meet with him. Comey speculated that there was a lot going on that would prevent him from progressing his agenda. Comey went on to explain that Trump said he hoped this whole Russian, Fynn issue would go away. Then the senator I believe asked if Trump knew at that point he wasn't under investigation - and he said yes.
When you consider Comey's speculation with those comments I get the feeling Trump was hinting to Comey.
n/a iAintReddit 2017-06-08
Still need to watch but sounds about right. I just believe if he ever gets charged with obstruction for this what was talked about, Lynch either should already be there or not too far behind.
n/a RocketSurgeon22 2017-06-08
He won't get charged with obstruction on this. People are taking advantage of a corporate guy trying to operate in government. It is a like a frat guy working in HR. They are twisting it to create obstacles from him accomplishing his agenda. Basically the establishment dems, republicans and media are hijacking our government and before too long people have a chance vote again. I don't think they truly understand the level of frustration people are having with these so called big scandals that result in nothing.
n/a rodental 2017-06-08
Because it's one big club, and this is just theatre for the plebs.
n/a DEEP_SEA_MAX 2017-06-08
She tried to obstruct justice bad
Trump tries to obstruct justice, good?
Honestly they're both shady as fuck and should both be investigated.
n/a MrMarmot 2017-06-08
[uniformed officer steps in] "Let's just aaaallllll calm down here. No one's going to prison here, so just relax. Wait, I smell weed. HANDS ON THE WALL!!!"
n/a THE_BASS_TURD 2017-06-08
Jeff Sessions is here! Run!
n/a NGonBeGone 2017-06-08
If that is obstruction of justice than Trump firing Comey would absolutely be without question obstruction of justice.
n/a JewciferMcCuckshill 2017-06-08
Well, with that in mind, trumps obstruction in the flynn case is a slam dunk.
n/a jeffinRTP 2017-06-08
Trump made the threat to stop the investigation and then fired comely when he didn't. The AG asked/told him to call it something other then an investigation.
n/a iAintReddit 2017-06-08
Still need to watch but sounds about right. I just believe if he ever gets charged with obstruction for this what was talked about, Lynch either should already be there or not too far behind.
n/a RocketSurgeon22 2017-06-08
He won't get charged with obstruction on this. People are taking advantage of a corporate guy trying to operate in government. It is a like a frat guy working in HR. They are twisting it to create obstacles from him accomplishing his agenda. Basically the establishment dems, republicans and media are hijacking our government and before too long people have a chance vote again. I don't think they truly understand the level of frustration people are having with these so called big scandals that result in nothing.