Can we dedicate one day a week (a slow day like Sunday) to be a "No Current Politics Day"? I'd love for this sub (and subculture) to get back to it's roots

3420  2017-06-10 by justsoyoknow

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of really important things discussed in this sub about modern day issues. However, I hate coming to this sub trying to find some juicy fringe stuff and being hit over the head with the same 3 tropes.

Can we have our own safe space for once? One day dedicated to things besides Current Politics?

Edit: safe space was used facetiously.

396 comments

Politics are a big part of common conspiracy theories, I don't think it makes sense to ever outright restrict that.

However I would be fine with having certain days that encourage users to promote other content.

Politics are all about conspiracy. Every decision made is about money and power and not democracy. So finding out the true reason a decision is what we try to do.

True, you can't disassociate conspiracy from politics. And I'm not talking about NYT political journalism. We need to discuss what the msm is not reporting. They have an agenda to report the "truths" they deem and it is our job to be skeptical. I won't sleep peacefully until Bernie had justice for the election fraud we've experienced. It's not about the election or even the candidates, it's the principle. The Clintons have a 30 year rap sheet and perhaps Trump was put in place from delving in too deep on the Hillary in light of what wikileaks revealed. The ptb have realised with this recent election how powerful the internet is over our TV sets in spreading information and communication with like minded individuals over a large land mass. Again it is not Hillary va Trump and if you think so you don't belong here. But I do believe the Clintons are very powerful and plotting their revenge behind the scenes, Trump was put in place to be America's punching bag while she shutters away in the shadows Scott free.

I agree with you. (And side note: I don't know if you did it on purpose but I like how you wrote "The ptb" instead of "TPTB".)

Politics are a big part of conspiracy theories, sure, but right now this sub is pretty much usurped by politics in a way it wasn't pre-election. Giving other subjects some room to breath one day a week would make a fine addition to this sub.

I second this.

You do realize more than one topic can be posted and comment on any given day, right? Every time any person posts "can we please stop with <insert topic>," I instantly think you're a fucking shill. Scroll past it. Post what you wanna talk about. "Can we please stop talking about <insert topic>" is the opposite of this sub/community's agenda.

This person is absolutely a shill. Look at their Post history. It doesn't exist.

Go play with your juicy fringe somewhere else, we want OUT of this fucking economic prison NOW!

Well, some of the fringe topics could help us all out, but they get buried by current political groups fighting each other in World Shill War III. I know it does, because many of my "out there" posts get buried to hell, when in yesterdays would be upvoted and discussed. It's obvious what's going on as of late.

There you go, a different sub! That's exactly the proper solution to being more interested in perpetual motion scams than getting the hell out from under the corporate-fascist psychopathic elites.

some of the fringe topics could help us all out

That's what upvotes are for. If there was a homeopathic gas tank magnet hydrogen cell that actually worked, we'd be all over it. Or some fossilized Atlanteans wearing wristwatches or something.

Damn dude, you sound angry. Remember: "He who does not know history, is doomed to repeat it". In order to fully understand are situation people should be researching history, and more out there things like spiritualism and the occult. Tesla knew that, but noooo here we are many times, talking about stupid political shit. Sigh... No wonder the world has gone to hell in a hand basket....

more out there things like spiritualism and the occult. Tesla knew that

Make a provable hypothesis. If you can violate non-locality through telepathy, or interdimensional travel or whatever, make an experiment and post the video!

That's how science works. We have happily adopted Tesla's electrical inventions, but he didn't make a testable hypothesis for his spiritual beliefs. Prove that you're right. Convince us.

That's how science works. We have happily adopted Tesla's electrical inventions, but he didn't make a testable hypothesis for his spiritual beliefs. Prove that you're right. Convince us.

Kind of hard when all his work was stolen after he died.

Not everything is about science, ya' know. Prove to me the big bang theory exists where something can be created from nothing?

I've seen a lot of these types of people on the sub lately. They argue "Science or it's bullshit" and "we have to confront our reality now". I think it's a lot of people who have been exposed to a little bit of truth but are still having trouble breaking down their other core belief systems. Some of it is shills for sure (not saying the user you are replying to) but I think a lot of it is also people who are still unable to grasp the enormity of the lie we are living.

I completely agree. Newcomers coming here because of the shit show politics is, and the government, but once introduced to other things beyond that realm... The cognitive dissonance kicks in, full gear. The rabbit hole goes far, far deeper. We are in the Great Awakening/Unveiling, though. So, I have a bit of hope for humanity...

Kind of hard when all his work was stolen after he died.

And the Library of Alexandria was burned to the ground. It's unfortunate. But it doesn't test the hypothesis.

Not everything is about science, ya' know.

Everything that matters is.

Prove to me the big bang theory exists

Not knowing the answer to every question doesn't mean that science doesn't have the answer to any question.

Damn dude, you sound angry.

an alternative to 'LOL U mad bro'

are you a paid shill for some org, as well as a mod here !?

This is his standard playbook. Say some shit, fail at defending the shit he's said, accuse the other person of being mad. There is some serious shady shit about that user.

Thanks. Subscribed.

Partisan politics are a hell of a way to ruin a society.

It's all a sham, homie.. I say fuck the government, and say we self rule via our own damn communities and neighbors... That's the real conspiracy. We can, and we do not need "rulers". Who will build the roads!!! You, if you get off your lazy fuckin' ass an participate! Not you, just saying to people who say that, nah mean?

Do you listen/watch Joe Rogan?

Not much. I have my own opinions on the dude. I like some of his guests, but... him? Not so much. Seems like a pompous ass hole...

Will check it out in full, mos def, short summary (just a simple run down)?

What I found interesting is the conversation surrounding how humans perform based upon the type of society they are in.

Thanks, will give it a watch. Just needed some context before I devoted some time. Cheers!

Preaching nationalism as usual. Keep it up...

I'm not though, if you actually read my words ;)

we self rule via our own damn communities and neighbors...

That's not really nationalism, per se.. Maybe, maybe tribalism... Anyways, I do not believe in a State, I believe in people and communities...

Give internationalism a shot. None of us exists in a vacuum.

Which kind of internationalism? Because, the Phoenicians were globalist in the trade sense, but still had a strong Nationalism.. Methinks, you're playing right into TPTB's hands. They want global government, not necessarily "global trade". We are all humans, true.. But we are all different, which makes us beautiful.. We are all individual soul beings. We work together, but for ourselves, in this experience we call life. It's a paradox. Tis' about the astral realm, not this physical realm, imo...

Okay. Must have forgotten for a second whom I was dealing with.

What's that supposed to mean?

It means that I forgot who I was dealing with for a second, as in, maybe you'd be open to rationality and not strange mysticism.

So... spit it out? I'm all ears...

Until you're (society, including myself) willing to storm some fed buildings ala french revolution style, all the political post here mean nothing.

Many people are more than happy to do that. It will be less like the French revolution, and more like the Arab Spring- occupation of the central part of town until either the regime steps down, or imposes martial law. It worked in Egypt!

juicy fringe

I like how you and u/warmonger282 both used this odd and distinctive phrase in this thread

You don't even post to this sub mate

Because it's overrun with political conspiracy, well some of it I wouldn't even call conspiracy but I'd call them political viewpoints. I think that's his reason for not participating? I can see why.

Well then he can get some threads going on subjects that interest him. If everyone just sits around waiting for non-political threads, then no threads will be made.

Totally agree. And he is taking a step in that direction by asking for a window in which to focus on fringe. I'm all for it.

If someone wants non-political discussion, they need to lead by example and start it, not just tell other people

People do and don't get any upvotes.

That's says it all. Right? Or maybe it's just shills doing all the downvoting.

Always the shills right.

This thread just got 3k upvotes. He clearly has some support. How blind can you be this is a fucking shill thread upvotes by bots. They're taking our sub. Wake the fuck up man

Seriously can you prove to me this is a shill thread?

Did you even search the user? 0 points other than this one link.

Does post to t_d though.

No, this account does not post to anything. I just checked. Bold-faced lie.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4h253y/the_best_of_el_rato/?st=J3RCAB69&amp;sh=56d6a4de

Didn't even have to scroll that far.

Thanks for lying and calling me a liar though. I wonder if you'll edit your post to reflect you being wrong?

While not required, you are requested to use the NP (No Participation) domain of reddit when crossposting. This helps to protect both your account, and the accounts of other users, from administrative shadowbans. The NP domain can be accessed by replacing the "www" in your reddit link with "np".

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

I already edited. I apologize. You were right and I was wrong.

Thanks for the edit and for owning up to the mistake.

Of course you had to be snarky considering you wouldnt be able to make a single post on the day if OPs suggestion came to fruition lol....What was your point anyway?

That he's clearly trying to deflect from posts about Trump. I'm down to talk conspiracy about anything, sorry I don't want censorship in this sub.

Haha down to talk to conspiracy about anything....Maybe replace 'anything' with 'trump' and you are golden. But yeah keeping with the snarky sarcasm that you like you like to inflect every comment with ill 'apologise' too. Sorry the op asked made a suggestion to have a non political day on one of the 7 days of the week. Its not as if he, like others, might be just a bit over reading the same snarky drivel spat out by both sides of the gangwar, always delivered in the same condescending know it all tone, the same empty talking points recycled over and over. No, for you see, you went back a whole year in his reddit history like the normal person you are and found a ted cruz meme he posted to the donald! Clearly this was a whole plan to specifically protect Trump on those pesky Wednesdays when all those bad things come out about him right! And we all know politics only refers to one party so hes clearly just protecting himself. Its not as if conspiracy talks about Clinton or the likes of Seth Rich right mate! Fuck you guys are geniuses, I wish i did 3 courses in a row at college...oh well

You must be really upset to type this whole thing. Took less than a full scroll to see the Donald post. Sorry I don't want censor this sub....

While not required, you are requested to use the NP (No Participation) domain of reddit when crossposting. This helps to protect both your account, and the accounts of other users, from administrative shadowbans. The NP domain can be accessed by replacing the "www" in your reddit link with "np".

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

OP might have multiple accounts, which isn't a bad idea if you're concerned about privacy. Never put all your eggs in one basket.

Start a fringe conspiracy sub maybe idk? It's all so intertwined anyway that it will eventually lead back to the shadow government etc etc

r/fringetheory

Nice another one to add. r/ConspiracyII is trying to stay away from the political side as well.

thank you for that

Not going to lie, it would be an interesting experiment.

so go create a r/safe-conspiracy subbredit with these features.

No offence, but some of us aren't into ufos and lizards...

Yeah, but this is a community. Where we all have to get along and compromise. Exposure to different ideas helps the mind grow.

Exposure to different ideas helps the mind grow.

UFOs ghosts and ancient aliens !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh and flat earth...

this is a wonderful way to self advertise lunacy.

Researching the arguments and counterarguments for a theory such as flat Earth does help you think more critically. I'm not sure why you're so opposed to esoteric topics.

Okay? That doesn't mean we can't discuss it.

your absolutely right. just don't get upset when it doesn't get upvoted.

What about the Kennedy Assassination and the theft of all of India's gold after Britain pulled out. What about Antarctica or deepstate?

Don't see stuff you like? Start posting some then.

It doesn't get upvoted it get drowned by the political post.

exactly

Oh I'm sure. You've got 3k bots to upvote this shit thread. Go ask if them upvote your shit threads

You're claiming I'm using bot to up vote this thread with 0 proof. This is why I never believe anyone about shilling because all you go to do is just falsely accuse someone without proof. If I'm botting please prove it to me you dumb fuck.

Yeah, it's obvious the shills really want to kill this sub.

Wasn't long ago these types concern trolling shill threads would be downvoted into oblivion. Now they are botted to the front page!

I think it might help as a bandaid, but my only worry is that there will be a major political event that happens on a "no politics" day and the rule will cause further division in the sub. Not a solution in my opinion.

One option would be to just wait and get more evidence for whatever you would be trying to prove or instead of it being forced it's just very encouraged to post non-political things.

Politics are a joke. Its all a show and if you cant see that, you need to look a little harder.

Politics isn't just what you see on TV.

So we shouldn't talk about the ongoing ruling class conspiracy to drag us into another, most likely nuclear, world war?

Who would want to silence such sentiment?

Under OP's proposal we'd still have 6 days a week to post about political stuff.

I need some flying humanoids back in my life.

The problem is when subs hit a certain membership number, it's hard to turn the tide of idiots. I've been on reddit since 2008 and it's steadily declined with each wave of people flocking to the site. It would probably be easiest to start one core sub instead of fracturing, but that's hard to attract people without content.

Im sick of the political bullshit. Half of the shit posted dealing with trump and comey and shit needs to go to the donalad or politics. Evrry other thread on the first few pages is the same damned thing over and over and over and its starting to spill into the new section. Its fucking ridiculous. This is /r/conspiracy not /r/politics_conspiracy jesus christ.

What kind of topics interest you

Cryptids. Ufos. Ancient citys. Ancient civilization. Secret military bases. D.u.m.bs. top secret planes. Black projects. Pretty much everything but the continous political shit.

I'm still of the mind we create a new conspiracy subreddit dedicated to the out of fashion conspiracies

all shite that CANNOT be verified, basically religious faith shite.

I think if we had a daily sticky theme it would be cool. Like every Monday- aliens, every Tuesday-psychology, weds-occult, thurs-social engineering, Friday-politics, etc.

Just an idea

Sounds like a pretty good idea.

Thanks noob

Who says I'm real? Lol all good.

let's try it for only one week, the problem is that it gives the mods a lot of discretion. maybe only one week per month?

as long as there is a stick of "type of day" it is, the users would self regulate the content right? I mean we would not need the police mods to have to ensure of the right content.

No, the point of something like this is to neuter the sub; almost every other major sub for discussion of user manipulation has been weakened in some way.

It's important to reduce the number of eyes on politically sensitive info, and nerfing r/conspiracy does that perfectly

Who's going to explain this to the thousands of users who didn't enter this abysmal thread? Who's going to constantly beat this into them until we're doing more "Can't talk politics today!" than actual discussion of relevant topics? You guys sound higher than a fucking kite right now.

Stickies

Why are we trying to make new rules? Are you guys new to the internet? Ignore that which in no way threatens you. Why does political conspiracy threaten you? Your opposition to unlimited freedom of speech threatens all of us AND the integrity of this sub. If we're to believe this sub has been compromised, and I see no way around it, then we definitely need to take action, though this seems to be more about mental exhaustion than actually giving a damn about the community. Maybe it's just time for us to crawl out of our cocoons, but you're too scared to leave the comforts of your sanctuary. It's time.

Dude this was one of the last sanctuaries where questioning of major institutions took place, including the manipulation of Reddit (see "how Reddit was destroyed")

Neutering r/conspiracy is exactly the next step in the process of limiting eyes on sensitive political discussion.

It's brilliant, actually.

I think this is a great idea

I like it as long as we allow for "breaking conspiracy news" to be posted on any day. Then again, every video, article or tweet claims to be new, groundbreaking, world-shattering information that must be seen right now. So who knows?

Yea the Seth Rich spam proves that nothing needs to be breaking to be called breaking.

Just couldnt resist could ya.

Sorry, but every George Webb update is not breaking news.

Who even claimed it was?!

Dude, this is an internet forum, not a newspaper. I personally enjoy the exhaustive amount of information, though most of it is total shit. Maybe you're not ready for the fast paced world of reddit, but I personally find it disgusting that any of you would consider yourself conspiracy minded while also trying to limit the stream of information. I don't even recognize this place anymore.

Media matters astroturfs and shills in this place, big money is spent to push a narrative across reddit.

Give the guy a break man he's just doing his job

Russia spam is just as bad

you know, I've never looked at the account of someone posting Seth Rich type stuff and been thoroughly confused at their motivations towards posting. People shitting on seth rich stuff/pizza gate however...

SETH RICH AND PIZZAGATE ARE REAL!! IMPEACHMENT OF 45 IS FAKE NEWS!!!

Removed. Rule 6.

seth rich and pizzagate are real!!!! impeachment of Putin's Bitch is fake news!!!!

You are completely delusional if you think russia threads make it to the front page at even 1/10th the rate SR and t_d attack threads make it.

Outside of conspiracy that is certainly the case.

And? We're talking about this sub.

It makes sense that this sub would be talking about the things other subs are not, and have an opposite narrative belief on Russia.

This sub isn't /r/notall, this is conspiracy. Stop trying to push your pro-establishment bullshit.

Lol wut? Who are you even saying that too? Ah right. I don't believe in the garbage Russia narrative and therefore can't be anti-establishment at the same time. Enjoy yourself, bruh.

...Why though? Automatically taking the opposite stance of any narrative isn't critical thinking.

I in no way inferred that meaning.

lets, as a group of ordinary, average people try to reach out to the Russians, who i have been told are very kind, warm, loving people.

Recently, Russians have started playing certain online video games en mass, games that had previously been only popular with Americans and Japanese gamers

lets reach out to the Russians through games and gaming. we are already 99% of the way there.

We know how to play soccer, and chess, and lots of Olympics sports, so lets just develop these gaming relationships on a daily basis

That scene from War Games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHWjlCaIrQo

Gaming can make a better world | Jane McGonigal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE1DuBesGYM

you mean the multiple posts by the same account that all got bot upvoted to the top and said the same thing which was essentially nothing wasn't something you would consider breaking news?

You guys are really trying to hammer it in that everything Seth Rich related is unwanted.

Funny thing though your upvote counts. Way out of line with this thread and the sub's norm.

Flashlights bring light.

i'd like to see where it says Seth Rich related news is unwanted in my post.My post is an attack on the obvious bot up voting that is slowly choking the life out of this sub.

Whoever keeps posting those threads, should probably spread it out at a different website. Anyone who frequents this sub probably knows his face more than they expected. Not trying to shit on the incident, but we get it! A man was murdered.

A man was murdered.

Watergate began as a burglary

Seth Rich and Eric Braverman are not spam just because a few people have grown tired of hearing about it

No they are spam that were made up by the trump admin to weaponize conspiracy theorists

ok, so why is wikileaks offering a reward for info on seth rich but not for the other "random" murders around the area he was killed?

Because they were getting heat for their connection to Russia and Trumps team obviously. Come on now think. They lose nothing by framing SR.

how would Seth Rich's death even come to the attention of wikileaks, for wikileaks to offer a reward for info on his death?

Maybe like a megathread or something for it.

How often do conspiracies and breaking news go together? A conspiracy is something hidden, something people don't want you to know and which you can only find out by digging.

I think that's what OP meant with this sub going back to it's roots - getting rid of the clickbait "BREAKING: (POLITICAL FIGURE I OPPOSE) DOES (THING I OPPOSE)", and more stuff like MK-ULTRA and Fort Knox.

Right, I meant more along the lines of emails dumps, whistleblower information, MSM admitting information on a suspected theory or cover-up, or anything else that would be a big deal but it happens to be Alien Tuesday so the post is deleted.

The evil United Nations needs a day a week.

This is a better proposal.

Why are we trying so hard to put this community in a box? I prefer things the way they have always been here.

It was just an idea...

An incredibly dumb idea that promotes limitations. You can't just expect a group of alleged free thinkers to go along with an idea that in essence puts a stop to thinking in a certain direction unless it's the correct day. How far do we enforce this dumb idea? Do we ban repeat offenders who're breaking no rules? I'd tell you to shut the hell up, but I support even dumb ideas being discussed if for no other reason than to discuss why they're fucking dumb ideas. Thanks.

lol u mad?

The kind of user suggesting to limit what topics we can discuss at what times.

Come and propose a better version of that idea, don't just shit on it. You must be fun to have at the brainstorming table.

"How about..." "No." "What about..." "No. And I'm personally offended now."

How about we keep the sub as one of the final places for discussion of unfettered politically sensitive information instead of opening he floor to information diluting?

Aliens, occult? Stonehenge? Magic crystals? Bermuda Triangle?

Basically reduce the questioning of people in power by 6/7ths to open the floor to completely discredited info that can be dispelled by common sense and Wikipedia.

It's an elegant plan that would lower the amount of eyes on politically sensitive information

Its just st one thread, I don't think it's diluting anything. Just an opportunity for ppl who have researched trump Russia Hillary and the DNC to death and until something new comes out would like to have ONE thread- not censoring of all threads/posts-about a more throwback theme

lol u mad?

we could enquire if you are here to promote division and self-censorship.

notice the textbook disinfo context.

No, you just don't understand the word idea. I'm not calling for any editing or stopping anyone from posting. It's literally one thread. All the others can still be Seth Rich or muh Russia

It's not as it's always been, and people are going to abandon it.

These proposed changes are just going to take us further away. There is obvious manipulation of votes happening here. The shilling organization LOVE to channel discussion rather than letting it be free. Their entire strategy revolves around breaking the organic curation of content and natural threads of discussion. Just because they have been successful so far does NOT mean that we should give them everything they want for this forum.

A full day for aliens?

Many of us don't actually care about things like aliens. It's never been a major theme. You would completely change the nature of this forum.

Conspiracy has always been the best place to discuss politics. If anything, have a full day without, not rotating themes.

Nah ppl can still spam politics I just mean like a thread if you wish to participate. Idk just an idea

It used to be far more significant a theme before the US election. I, for one, would love to see the sub try something like this to bring it a little closer to what it used to be. Before the posts became 80% politics I think it was a bit chiller and more fun to be honest. Politics in itself is a distraction from bigger things so to at least have particular days without politics would be a good breath of fresh air. Better yet imo if there were days specifically for certain themed posts.

Idk if we should restrict anything more than necessary, I kinda just thought like a daily green thread post like "alien Monday (hopefully something less lame)

followed with a starter post (same posts about aliens, nazis, secret societies, hidden history, media manipulation, political collusion, war atrocities etc circulate here weekly/monthly anyway) just to get things rolling- buy in no way restrict other content that branches off

Idk, I'd hate to use "the Donald" as an example because many here probably can't stand that place- but the daily sticky threads there work for them. We could do that here but less circle-jerky and more attuned to this subs culture maybe.

"the Donald" as an example because many here probably can't stand that place

was a different place before compared to after the election.

Looking back I at my post I want to specify, it would just be one thread like an AMA open discussion not like a "whole board can only talk about this theme today". Just wanted to clarify.

I wish it were. There are so many delicious alien-based conspiracies. We focus so much on politics, it actually gets kind of boing.

Ever look into the Secret Space Program?

You would completely change the nature of this forum.

Exactly. That's the whole point.

Conspiracy has always been the best place to discuss politics.

They know, which is why they'd like us to stop. I wonder why that is...

We don't have to stop, just have some stickies for each day

Well we could try this for a month then maybe vote if all of us are in agreement with this.

Yea I have no idea how it would work in practice. Would hate for mods or whoever to put in work just for us not to participate at the same time.

Could be cool tho, idk

Any change to an existing system is always difficult to implement and follow at first but then people get used to it after some time.

That makes sense when the change makes sense. This Animal Farm rule changing every day osmotic going to work. It's a dumb idea, and I'm surprised so many people are on board.

It's another chapter in "how Reddit was destroyed" (or, how Reddit weakened the capacity for sensitive political discussion through sub alteration)

This is the post where an idea is floated that allows, at some point, the reduction of time allotted to political discussion to take place. Selective coverage and theme days doubles as providing increased visibility to conspiracies of lesser credence (aliens, occult, really?). This lowers the reputation of the sub further, reducing traffic and substantive discussion.

It's actually brilliant

And then explain to newcomers every ten minutes why they've been punished for mentioning something on the wrong day? We can't ration information, and that's the point you're all conveniently overlooking in this discussing.

Well the mods could write the rules on a post and pin it, so that it is visible to all as soon as anyone opens the conspiracy subreddit.

It's going to get innocent people into trouble with mods, piss off people who appreciate open dialogue, put off new people from stifling around, and ultimately stifle the community while demanding so much more of the already overworked mods simultaneously.

In reality those requesting this "rule" would probably do better to take some time away from here. Next we'll only be able to talk about anything political on the last Tuesday of every other months, and it'll turn into r/Paranormal with most of the users posting fan fiction and endless videos of Coast to Coast AM guests making outrageous claims. What is conspiracy without politics? I'm thinking many of you believe you're in another sub.

While you have made some incredible points regarding the hassles involved in my suggestion, but personally I believe the r/Conspiracy is becoming too political. What I suggested was not the way of giving up political conspiracies all together but rather giving other conspiracies more attention on some days whereas giving other political conspiracies attention the rest of the days.

What other conspiracies? What are your "safe" topics? I hope you realize that a few emphatic dupes agreeing with you doesn't make this a good idea. To what end, Bruté?

I never asked people to agree with me. They can down-vote all they want. I never said it was a great idea nor did I ask anyone to implement it. And to answer your "safe" topics question here are some topics which don't deal with bi-partisan politics are "UFOs","Vaccines","Cults","Deaths of certain celebrities","wrong practises of large corporates","mysteries regarding certain locations like Area 51, Bermuda Triangle etc" etc.

you are 'dividing and conquering'

R/conspiracy was too good to last.

It's outlasted the stormfront trolls, the digg exodus, the major political subs, r/theoryofreddit, and r/undelete.

It's lasted because it specifically is for the purpose of uncovering attempts at censorship across the board, from other subs to itself.

It has to be weakened. This is the beginning

/r/conspiracy


Capital Corrector Bot v0.4 | Information | Contact | PollNew!

Mysteries involving Bermuda Triangle??? Ufos???

His sub has become one of the last bastions of uncontrolled discussiOn of Reddit manipulation of political speech and attempts at group censorship.

This thread proposes a brilliant plan to neuter the sub through selective coverage and. Giving credence to completely discredited conspiracy theories, the kind that mad persons discussed in the nineties before the vast dissemination of information was available to all.

It's the perfect plan to dilute the sub with the same dreck, week in week out.

How to destroy Reddit, a new chapter.

His sub has become one of the last bastions of uncontrolled discussiOn of Reddit manipulation of political speech and attempts at group censorship.

That's your argument against it? Because we won't be able to discuss Reddit's "manipulation of political speech". I would literally prefer seeing nothing but Sasquatch posts in this sub 24/7 than watch you circle jerk about how Reddit is censoring you. Do you honestly have no other reaponse to Reddit's censorship other than bitching on the exact same website where the censorship is happening?

What's more, maybe you can explain how the rest of Reddit is having their political discussion controlled but r/conspiracy has somehow remained immune to it. How could it be that here, the place most likely to see resistance to this dark cabal of Reddit censorship, we are somehow managing to keep the word out about the big bad Reddit censors?

Mysteries involving Bermuda Triangle??? Ufos???

These are infinitely more interesting than "DAE hate Reddit censoring my rights?!?!?!?!"

I didn't say they censored our rights, I just hunk it's interesting to watch some of the largest political discussion forums of all time be eroded and diluted and ultimately rendered weak.

It's a fascinating moment in time

Refer to my last comment. You said that this sub is one of the last bastions of uncontrolled Reddit manipulation of political speech and group censorship. I'm saying that's nonsense.

Why would r/conspiracy be immune to that manipulation given that it exists in the same space as every other sub, namely Reddit? And if it's not immune, then why spend time in this sub trying to fight censorship when the effort is inherently already doomed to fail?

Surely there must be a better way to fight censorship than post on a site where your political message is guaranteed to be censored.

There's actually no better way.

The internet is already collectivized with the majority interacting on a few super powerful sites

Fb, reddit, etc, all massive corporations.

Reddit had something going for it in that the intention, when it was built, was to foster free speech and bring like minded people together.

If you read "how Reddit was destroyed", you can follow how this path.

I mean, I think it's incredibly interesting to see how different actors have manipulated these forums over time

So you're saying the best way to speak out against censorship is to do so in the site where you know you'll be censored. Got it.

There is no best way. What is best, anyway? I never claimed to be anyone's savior or anything

We're all just doing what we know, don't have to be so critical of someone speaking up against censorship.

Perhaps you have your own opinion or idea you'd like to share?

All of those conspiracies you listed have huge political components. Do you want people to self-censor on the political parts? I mean how are you going to implement a no politics rule when most those conspiracies exist solely because of domestic American politics and global politics.

Well at least they ask questions from the establishment irrespective of the political affiliations of the various governments. People won't get divided into "libtards" and "deplorables". That's what I was trying to say all along.

In a nutshell what I was saying was that if only for a day could the conspiracy subreddit be other than Clintons, Trump and other political people.

Then again it's my opinion. You can either like it or hate it.

But we are in the midst of the death of the American Republic, where I guy like Comey can take out the presumptive president Clinton and the actual president Trump. The ur-conspiracy, that the Deep State runs the government has been publicly confirmed by their complete veto of the election of 2016. We're living history right now and people know it if they can't actually express it.

But this too will pass.

The voice of reason, yet downvoted. This thread is important to someone.

It's one of the final places where people openly discuss the corruption of Reddit in dedicated threads.

It's perfectly in line with reducing the amount of eyes on politically sensitive information.

It's brilliant, actually.

R/conspiracy has to be neutered or at least weakened through selective coverage

The votes cannot be trusted anymore. Why do people keep suggesting this? The votes are heavily manipulated in this forum. Leave the forum alone, it has been fine for years and it doesn't need to change now.

This is a textbook manipulation attempt. One small step at a time.

This might be the last step...

Where else can we talk about the article "how Reddit was destroyed"?

Where is a major sub that talks about transparency and censorship accounts so candidly with such high visibility and a large userbase?

This sub already doesn't see threads about Reddit manipulation rising to the top anymore.

We might be facing the end

I like it

I agree, this is a great idea, also pushing politics to Friday is perfect as that's when all the stories r/conspiracy is interested in tends to be released.

If you regulate one day to politics it allows shills more focused manipulation.

That's the point, reduce political discussion overall and neuter the threads dispersal and conversation of sensitive topics of power to 1/7 of the previous amount.

It's actually quite genius

Exactly.

Why else would a post asking for fringe topics, but not actual fringe topics posts, be so wholly supported.

I'd give hundreds of dollars to see the upvote downvote counts in this thread.

"How Reddit was destroyed", conspiracy edition

That might be hard to keep up with. Like, UFO sightings don't happen every. Naw I mean?

This thread needs to be burned before people start thinking it's okay to limit discussion of topics to certain days. The amount of stupid here is alarming.

agreed, stupid for some not doubt, deliberate dividing and conquering and smear association.

'lets all say social-political criminality is no more deviant than UFOs'

r/conspiracy is about human based conspiracy, the exposing of and deconstruction of. a forensic discussion subreddit.

This comment of yours is lower down, and it's in the positive compared to the downvoted critical comments higher up in the thread.

This thread will be the justification for weakening the sub; it's happening in front of us.

He's just saying have in singular thread devoted to a specific topic (such as aliens) to post about in a visible place when it would otherwise her drowned it in a bunch of posts about politics. He doesn't mean limit all other discussion in any way.

That's not how reddit communities work.

Thank God. People in this thread trying to arrange Tupperware events and shit.

Instead of just aliens - mondays could be aliens and cryptids.

Cryptids, occult, magic crystals. Let's discuss things discredited in Wikipedia articles and common sense. Let's no love never discuss politically relevant sensitive info except during a well-managed two-minutes hate

No. Reddit was better before moderator abilities got out of control. Stickies have to much impact on the direction of discussion.

stickies can be ignored, they are just there for those that want them.

Stickys are garbage because upvotes and downvotes don't affect them. If the users want to explore a topic its one thing, but stickys are just a moderation tool to be abused

stickies: the super-up-vote button (not available to mere mortals)

actually now that i think if it, reddit has been allowing users to try out a new user profile feature, that might allow you to post stickies to your own profile... haven't explored new profiles, as it says it can't be undone and I'm not sure what pros/cons are yet

Now I can just sticky a few posts to hide my shilling....yes...

Bibles in school can be ignored, they are just there for those that want them.

I love this idea.

Even if it's a repost or something from the sub's past, I'd love to have a different theme each week to discuss and expand our exploration on week to week.

As a community we should start putting a list together under different topics and we can start to order them progressively as you go deeper into the rabbit hole on each subject.

The Wikipedia articles on everything from bigfoot to Stonehenge will give you all the information you need to fully discredit these concepts.

We can continue with this plan, though, and undermine the number of eyes and substantive discussions on politically sensitive info.

It's the next chapter to be included in that "how Reddit was destroyed" article

The Wikipedia articles on everything from bigfoot to Stonehenge will give you all the information you need to fully discredit these concepts.

LOL SURE BUD, I BET

That feels too curated. Like somebody trying to direct discussion. But as long as it's just a sticky and it doesn't exclude any topics that would be cool.

Instead of limiting the whole sub's discussion, I think we should have like a stickied discussion thread for a daily topic, so people can still post whatever they want as a normal link/self post on any day of the week, but we can have focused discussion of "classic" conspiracy topics.

This is what I meant when I originally posted

Thats the vibe i got, but it seemed like a ton of people didn't get it and were upset.

Yeah I never have posts get upvoted like that. I think the shills used my own words against me to push an unwanted change that wasn't actually what I was trying to propose :(

They just want to keep pushing their narrative it would seem.

I love this

This is a great way to kill the sub

Don't forget Hollow Earth

*Inner Earth. Honeycomb structure with vast pockets of caverns and open areas below the surface. Ancient breakaway civilizations live there.

Yeah I'll go with that. I believe it's more "tubular" than hollow anyway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxyfiBGCwhQ

That was interesting, thanks for the link.

Sounds interesting but there should be at least one free for all day

But there aren't as many conspiracies about a topic as there are about another topic, some days the sub would be pretty much deserted. I think OP idea is pretty good, i hate seeing politic related topics every day, i feel like i need a rest from time to time.

Sounds like a lot of work that might lose steam after a while. I get that you're trying to do what other subs have tried, but I've noticed they don't hold up

Yeah I'd hate for someone to put in work and get no participation

I'll make sure to not be here on Friday

Fantastic idea!

safe space day? no thanks.

Get back to those dry humping dog vids you like

CIA needs to go! 😌🔫 = 👌

Screw that. The 'no politics! Politics are dumb!' noise is one of the most frequently observed circlejerks in a controlled sub or one in battle for control.

Let me be the first to stand up on my soapbox and point out that politics fucking matter. The strength of Reddit is how we can share our differing specialties, access to historic memory, crowdsourced research, and then ELI5 why it matters. Then go better and ELI5 next-steps to do something about it.

Let's just leave the walls undefended one day a week. Having sentries to keep guard while in hostile territory every night is tedious. Let's just take one night a week while we all go to sleep. Nothing bad will happen that one night right? Not like those trying to slip a spear into our ribs would pay attention and notice when a particularly wide changing of the guard takes place.

File this in the dumb ideas from /r/conspiracy.

you seem insufferable

I hate to break it to you man but there's only like 1000 to 2000 users here. I know you're having fun with your larp but we mean absolutely nothing.

1000-2000 real users*

apparently we mean enough to pay shills to attack us here

Do you even know what larp means? So many silly people in this thread..

In order to do that they'd have to ban all the people who just copy/paste "news" from anti-trump subs onto here because there are loads of people who literally just do that and only visit anti-trump places and here..

I'm all for it.

Did you hear about trump's secret underground child sex operation? I'm seeing lots of very well documented articles about the subject. You should do some research.

You're user name invalidates everything you say.

Trump supporter who doesn't post in conspiracy sub, poses as a member of the community and asks users of that sub to stop talking about current politics..... hmmmm

a fake Trump supporter.

I hate both sides.

You know what is amazing? The US just attacked Syria this week. Let's forget about it right?

that is their plan.

Well that's sort of blowing it out of proportion. No one is saying to forget about current conspiracy. Just that one day a week would be more about conspiracy outside of politics (and just what's posted, it would not even effect what's on the Hot list or Top list from the week).

Okay well regulation of this sub is stupid. Let the people choose what to upvote and downvote.

Yea, wading through the political shit to get to aliens sucks, but at least we're not censored.

Very good point. We definitely don't want censoring what so ever. I did not think OP actually meant censoring. I thought it was just a thing people could observe if they wanted to on Sunday.

Go play with your juicy fringe somewhere else, we'd be all over it.

Seth Rich!!!!!!1 /s

What's so funny about Hillary and the DNC killing Seth Rich?

the retard shills that laugh at the murders of Hastings Lucas Rich et al,

its possible one day they too will upset a boss or learn a forbidden secret where they work, then it will be their turn to be a forgotten name laughed at by shills.

Agreed

Maybe go find another sub or ignore what you don't like. The last thing we need on a conspiracy sub is some top down decree of what we can and can't post here.

the fact that some people downvoted you, shows that there are people who love censorship and thus have no purpose here.

"I only want my conspiracies that I approve of"

"I only want my conspiracies that I approve of"

'I only want the conspiracies my paymasters approve of'

thats their reality.

Exactly. If people want to see something, submit it and see how it goes. That's how the format of Reddit works. Excellent point.

I wish all of Reddit did that

Says the redditor for 3 years.

I beg to differ. This sub was political but not in the way that anyone here expected change from politicians.... Politics were just part of the overall picture.

As long as the rest of the week is dedicated to pedos and 🍕 im okay with this

What about splitting this sub into political conspiracies and non?

go make your own non political UFO alien area-51 subreddit.

Why is all this liquid mercury in south American dig sites?

Care to share more? Haven't heard of this.

Bumping for interest

I just use Reddit Enhacement suite (d/l) and filter out certain key words in subjects along political lines that are continually pushed here

All those topics you mention are conspiracy related.

LOL

*its roots.

"it's" = "it is"

Thank you.

More rules would not get us any closer to the roots.

Partisan politics are a joke.

If you don't think politics and conspiracies go hand in hand, you're wrong.

per week is too much. Per month I say. Politics is too important u know

For a while this sub as a whole was starting to realize politics are not important.... They only have as much power as we let them. The more we ignore them as a society and take it upon ourselves to manage our lives and solve our own problems, the less they matter... If we can change society starting locally to live with that in mind eventually they lose their power in a way that cannot just be taken back quickly. Its about thinking outside of the system. Politics are a lie and the important stuff happens outside of our control anyways, because the elite airway know to work outside the system... they can potentially be useful, but once the elections pass and you come to terms with the fact that everyone sucks and lied to get elected again, you just go back to living locally outside their mandates....slowly but surely, one day they will become so unimportant that the thought of complying with some rule the dicks in suits 7 states away made will be laughable.

Just try another sub or two, this one is what it says it is, I visit 10 - 20 subs regularly.

That's a good sentiment, but slow days are the ones least likely to be inundated with schills and bots downvoting and astroturfing or what have you. You should pick the busiest day of the week and post an escape the madness thread or maybe even start another sub, call it oldscoolconspiraciesonly or something like that.

No offence, but he didn't make a single post on the dude.

Maybe he's a nihilist.

I lurk. I'm here to consume not propagate.

You guys know what this is, right? OP is a member of the illuminati and is trying to get us to stop uncovering the truth for just one day a week. That's all they need to get in and let their mind control techniques take hold. Eventually that day will be expanded to two, then three and, well, you know what comes next.

Don't say I didn't warn ya

I'm more afraid of the fact he wants a safe space than the possibility of him being one of the Illuminati.

That's how we know it's a t_d

'a safe space'

just a modern psych-babble phrase to describe pigeon-holing.

remember Aldous Huxley was busy busy working with the US psychiatric/psychological medical (plus CIA) community in the 50s into the 60s, they were working on social engineering for the masses.

I was being tongue in cheek with that phrase lol

But her pizza emails..

On the Seventh Day, r/conspiracy let the politics rest.

Agree 1000%. I left this sub a few months back because I couldn't stomach all the anti Trump "conspiracy" crap. Please lets all get back to Aliens, CIA, and 9/11

Ikr. This place is full of muh-russia conspiritards that want the Seth Rich discussion to end. Fuck them. HIS NAME WAS SETH RICH!

I'm just a common lurker but as a non American or Brit, I would fucking love something not related to their politics.

so create your own non english language conspiracy subreddit.

we have links to others on our sidebar, yours could be linked to there.

I miss the days of area 51 and that cool shit

thats twenty plus years ago.

X-Files era.

we have had 9/11, Afghan invasion, Iraq twice, 7/7, Bologne, Madrid, Libya, Syria, Egypt, London, Paris. Boston Sandy Hoax, Orlando etc etc.

the MSM DRAMA X-Files is generally tame and safe when looked back upon with rose tinted spectacles.

The Secret Space Program has been in existence since at least the 1950's and developing more and more advanced tech through the decades.

Look into the Secret Space Program. Shit is insane, yet 100% real.

Solar Warden. Damn CG did his homework.

If the users who upvoted this post upvoted fringe topics regularly it wouldn't be an issue.

Instead of asking the community for self-censorship post fringe topics that warrant upvotes.

let be honest here, we all know that many of the political posts on here are upvoted by bot, its hard for anything else to compete.

What? Nooooooooooo. TD doesn't send stuff here.......

Anti-Trump posts reach the top of this sub as well, but I'm sure you think those are organic, yes?

2,000 points, gilded:

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6chgbe/dear_t_d_readers_please_read_this_post_i_am_ready/

2,400 points:

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6g7jcf/house_republicans_with_support_form_trump_passes/

4,000 points: "Michael Flynn resigns: Trump's national security adviser quits over Russia links." Comments full of anti-Trump conspiracy theories:

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5txzbc/michael_flynn_resigns_trumps_national_security/?st=j2mm8gbv&amp;sh=c38fdfb0

26,000 points: "I'm fucking TIRED of the fucking WAR on drugs. Jeff Sessions Demands "Strongest Possible Charges" For Drug Users. Fuck Jeff Sessions, and Fuck the War on Drugs"

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6awhsy/im_fucking_tired_of_the_fucking_war_on_drugs_jeff/?st=j2ndg2p6&amp;sh=61617e28

1,000 points:

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6f952z/if_we_fund_the_terrorists_they_will_stop/

This one was stickied for a while: "Let me explain exactly how Trump is a Rothschild asset and has been for decades. How his advisers, policies, alternative media talking heads all emanate from the Cabal, via Rothschild financial influence. We'll begin with Alex Jones and make our way down."

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/61hfyi/let_me_explain_exactly_how_trump_is_a_rothschild/?ref=search_posts

Trump fires Comey, 10,000 points, comments full of anti-Trump material:

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6a8k3o/president_trump_fires_fbi_director_comey/dhcm43s/

Even the top posts that support Trump (usually fake news bullshit that anti-Trump people probably post to discredit Trumpets) are full of anti-Trump comments upvoted to the top and occasionally gilded.

https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6exlzq/melania_trump_bans_monsanto_products_from_the/

those are equally bullshit

Most of those are threads for breaking news or for stories so big you can't ignore them. Quite a few of them also made it to /r/all which skews the voting patterns.

If you take a random snapshot on any given day I would bet the pro-Trump threads outweigh the anti-Trump ones on the front page of the sub by a factor of at least 2:1.

And if you include anti-democrats or anti-DNC in the "good for Trump" category its probably closer to 10:1

I do not see how anyone can visit the sub on a daily or weekly basis and think this sub is anti-Trump. It does not reflect the content whatsoever

Most of them are anti-Trump posts and only two made it to /r/all. Two can be considered "neutral," and one is pro-Trump with anti-Trump comments, but the rest are literally anti-Trump threads that I found from a quick search. If you really think threads that make it to /r/all skew the vote patterns, then would you like me to cut those couple threads out and give you the list again? Because it looks like I'm gonna have to do that since you dismissed the entire thing because of a few threads.

You posted what looks like 8 threads spread over 3 months. A few of them aren't even really "anti-Trump" but simply facts being reported on. For example, Flynn resigning, Trump firing Comey, etc.

To use those few examples to make your point that sub is either anti-Trump or somehow neutral just seems really dishonest. You can probably find more than 8 threads on Clinton and Democrats within the last 24 hours. Let alone 3 months.

Those were just the ones that hit the number 1 spot on this sub. It was to show that those kinds of threads can be upvoted to the top of a supposedly "pro-Trump" subreddit.

i think it varies, if its a somewhat positive day for Trump, the anti trump stuff floods, if its a negative day for trump, the pro trump stuff floods

comments full of anti-Trump conspiracy theories

Have you noticed what sub you're on?

The Sessions one made it onto r/all and Reddit likes their weed

You don't think Flynn resigning over Russia links or the FBI director getting fired are relevant to this sub?

And why are popular anti-Trump comments on a conspiracy sub weird? He's the government.

Have you ever seen the plethora of comments that say "this sub is like T_D 2.0" or "I know I'll be downvoted, but fuck trump," and the comments ends up being +800 points. That is a really popular talking point in this sub.

And why are popular anti-Trump comments on a conspiracy sub weird? He's the government.

It's not weird. My post was to show that the people who claim anti-Trump submissions always get downvoted is bullshit. It was to show that this supposedly "pro-Trump" subreddit suspiciously upvotes anti-Trump posts. Don't you see the people here every day who make these claims?

The Sessions one made it onto r/all and Reddit likes their weed

That doesn't explain all of the other anti-Trump posts that hit the front page of this sub and didn't make it to /r/all, including the ones I found that hit the top spot. Check the comments out on pro and anti-Trump submissions. It's more likely you will see anti-Trump comments, but it probably depends on the day and which side is brigading at the time.

Since this a conspiracy sub anti-president posts should be expected. A better comparison would be pro-trump posts compared to pro-obama posts over the last 8 years.

But this post asking for fringe topics has the right amount of upvotes to compete.

So either:

  • The people who voted for this post in support of fringe topics don't actually upvote fringe topics (for whatever reason).

  • Shills upvoted this post because it would be easier to target a specific day focused on politics to further an agenda or to keep politics out of the limelight in general.

I explained it here, but my post slid off the new page without gaining traction. :)

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6ggost/politics_in_conspiracy_history_exists_to_figure/

it's roots

It is roots.

What?

Do you bad guys rest? I think not. Need to keep up the fight!

How about if we looked to introduce a fortnightly stickied topic for fringe conspiracy discussions? We could have a sticky thread and highlight to chosen subject on the page sidebar?

Topics could be anything from Archons, UFOs, Forbidden Archaeology and so on.

The sub does sometimes miss the fringe and i think your suggestion is something that the moderators can discuss and look to implement in some way.

Many users get tired of the politics and the page could use some much needed diversity.

Good suggestion OP.

Please reconsider. I think regular stickies would have a negative impact on the free flow of discussion that happens here.

I'm concerned this thread is the next chapter in the classic article "how Reddit was destroyed"

Not really anything to be concerned about. All i've suggested is that we look to offer more fringe topics a bit of exposure occasionally. This is a conspiracy page after all and there is an active audience for the more bizarre and unusual subjects the we see here.

Political conspiracy has been the order of the day for a long time now, this is just an idea to bring back more classic conspiracy content in a workable but not overbearing way.

Those fringe posts just don't see the upboats or submissions because they're easily discredited with common sense and Wikipedia.

And yet, this thread has risen.

For all the good it will do, I suspect one day soon I'll be referencing this thread when linking to "how Reddit was destroyed"

Those fringe posts just don't see the upboats or submissions because they're easily discredited with common sense and Wikipedia.

That isnt necessarily true, there are so many diverse and unexplained cases and incidents throughout history that to claim that they can all be easily explained and simply put to bed is short sighted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Air_Lines_flight_1628_incident

Yeah a UFO between two military bases? No way it was a military flight test. Let the community decide, please, or we could force it down our throats as some would have it

Don't miss the point here, the suggestion is for open discussions for anything conspiracy related, this is simply an idea to put some diversity on the page. No one is suggesting post removals of anything non relevant to the highlighted threads either.

In short there are many people who want to discuss more exotic conspiracy related topics, all we are doing is looking to offer them a platform.

We'll see, but the future of the sub has always been in doubt after seeing what happened to the other major subs and those subs critical of moderation of reddit.

It's not a question of if, but when.

The Secret Space Program is 100% real. Militaries have their own deep-black special access programs where they develop their own anti-gravity and zero-point energy craft. Doesn't have to be ET flying in the skies, although it sometimes is.

That is absurd, zero gravity tech would be worth billions; the world could be conquered, private tech would be revolutionized and would have made it already.

Ascribing govt waste to funnelling into Star Trek tech instead of corporate pocketbooks is wild as hell, lol.

That's amazing lol

That is absurd, zero gravity tech would be worth billions; the world could be conquered, private tech would be revolutionized and would have made it already.

Ascribing govt waste to funnelling into Star Trek tech instead of corporate pocketbooks is wild as hell, lol.

That's amazing lol

lol the world has been conquered and is being run by psychopaths and dark occultists. Look around you. The population has been dumbed down and mind-controlled. Then there are so many insiders, whistleblowers and former military officers who attest to the existence of extra-terrestrials and reverse-engineering of craft for military Special Access Programs. You literally have to have your head in the sand to dismiss the overwhelming evidence. Of course they are covering it up and keeping it hidden. The highest levels of the corporate hegemony have their own secret programs.

Fuck off with that bs. There is alot of conspiracy that are unexplainable and should be discussed. Just because it doesn't fit with your schema of life doesn't mean it not real or shouldn't be discussed.

I mean the evidence for it is on the internet clearly

It's not about whether it should be discussed or not, it's just that politically sensitive info has found one home after another pushed out over time.

This development could easily lead to another shattered bastion of politically sensitive speech via selective coverage and fracturing the user base.

It's genius

Useful idiot.

Yeah that dude is shilling hard. Check out this article about the Secret Space Program if you want to dive into a crazy rabbit hole.

Yes, it very obviously is.

Prepare to find a new site...

I like this idea better. Outright banning topics on certain days is a horrible idea. Especially considering sunday is one of the only days that paid astroturfing comanies tend to stay off the page. Sunday is one of the ONLY days that allows for organic conversation between real users who arent paid to have an agenda. Please do not take that away from us by not allowing us to discuss current events.

I like this idea better. Outright banning topics on certain days is a horrible idea.

The mods do not think this idea is workable or fair either so we are looking at a compromise.

Is is possible to objectively reduce the quantity of self-posts?

I'm not really active on this sub, but I like to lurk here from time to time.

I really like the idea of stickied fringe topic discussions. They can be quite interesting and it would be a breath of fresh air.

I help out on a similarly themed sub you may like -

https://www.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/

Looks interesting, thanks!

You are such a bad mod. RIP this sub

Removed. Rule 10.

Or how about a daily/weekly sticky for current politics discussion?

I think that would be too fragmented and would cover far too much content for one thread. That's only my opinion and we don't want to change the page to that degree, this is just to make some room for more fringe subjects.

I've only seen Seth Rich/Trump. Two topics. And if the threads are recycled every couple of days, then whatever is in the news will have room.

I think this is the most reasonable way to approach this, as long as it has absolutely nothing to do with restricting whatever else gets posted on the sub. I don't see why people are so paranoid about a rotating sticky that doesn't interfere with other posts.

"Stickies direct discussion" is absolute horseshit, there are people who only browse /new/ that don't even know that we're having AMAs

Only if we can have a day every week without the people who can't handle political conspiracy. It doesn't sleep. Shame on you for suggesting we sleep, attempting to force the rest of us to obey in order for you to ignore what many of us can't. We're already losing the fight against the oppressors, and you want a day off every week? Cool. You take a day off every week. We'll be here when you've rested. There is no conspiracy without politics. There's another subreddit for whatever else you think belongs here.

Lol, 6 comments in an OP is accused of being a shill. I and others here have posted before longing for a return to the conspiracy of old but once again we are taken down with the old politics is conspiracy argument. FFS, take your shill nonsense back to the Hillary or Donald subreddits where they belong

We need a day about major conspiracies like fema camps, the "freedom" agenda, communism, satanists, the end of america, the economic destruction and the like.

These are the real things we should be talking about. It's not pizzagate or seth rich or aliens or reptile people. It's the most insidious conspiracies that are the most real and worthy of discussion.

r/collapse sound like just the place. its fun there.

Literally all of your desires get posted here every damn day. But you just had to throw in Seth rich and pizzagate right? And to top it off you have to mix it in with reptilians. Lol. Maybe you need to visit more often

Because the ones you mention are bullshit.

Because they scare you?

... No.

What if I told you Satan is a reptilian

I'd just ban them completely. If you want conspiracies go to the Donald. Plenty there.

Such as....

Seriously yesssss OMG I was so fucking sick of politics in this subreddit

i think all Politics should be left out of this sub and a new sub created specifically for Political conspiracies .

i

I

Is this the deep state trying to orchestrate regular Sunday schemes that will get no coverage on here? 🤔

No doubt about it. George Soros's minions are out begging for charity. Fuck them.

We live in pivotal times and shouldn't squander what little time we have on self-aware bread and circuises.

Go fuck yaself ya safe space seeking douche

Sjws to the rescue.

seven safe spaces they can cry over their lattes in.

I completely support this proposal!

This sub will never get back to its roots. All the best critical thinkers here have already been banned by the mods for not towing the alt-right line.

Yeah I'm about one more political post from madness

You just want the truth to be hidden, shill.

Just flair all political posts and then allow users to filter them out if they like. Problem solved.

No. Shills work weekdays. Why give them that advantage?

I don't think we should do it on the weekend when the shills are on vacation.

Do you know what the word politics means?

these are young moronic cubicle warriors, wet behind the ears.

Well actually, poly means many, and tics are blood sucking insects.

nah man, they're paid shills who are executing their strategy to kill this sub

What the fuck are you talking about? Politics have been in this sub since the very beginning. You are obviously looking for the X-Files fan sub.

I proposed a rule that submissions at least be conspiracies. Some of the stuff is just "The left (or right) is going to be really angry if x happens!"

I absolutely do not like this idea. Sunday is one of the only days that paid astroturfing comanies tend to stay off the page. Sunday is one of the ONLY days that allows for organic conversation between real users who arent paid to have an agenda. Please do not take that away from us by not allowing us to discuss current events.

I'd more be interested if r/pics started having a no-politics day first...

I miss Aliens.

I think it would be better if posts with keywords like trump and Clinton would be autotagged as political and could be filtered out on our end

A day without Kremlin active measures would be nice.

Politics = conspiracy.

I vote for Alien Mondays

3k upvotes. The day this sub died. Screw all of you shills

There are subs that have to tag posts "current" and you could have a version of the page that is free of those posts.

It's not even current politics that's the problem.
"Fuck Trump he's a nazi" is not a conspiracy yet seems very popular.

Says the account who posts in r/politics....and loves porn

Censoring content will lead to the downfall of this sub.

If there's anything worse than the fact that this place is flooded with Republican partisans (and you'll see that many of them agree with this post) it would be to censor the sub and make it worse.

I explained it here, but zooom ... off it went down the NEW page because it was too true. :)

Maybe the mods would like to figure out how to control the bots downvoting most anti-Trump conspiracies from the front page while upvoting every baseless pro-Trump narrative.

Why would you try to hide the political posts? Are you trying to hide something?

As long as you never call it a safe space again, I'm down

Seriously.

Or just force all the current political discussion into a sticky that gets renewed daily/weekly? Clean up the front page quickly.

You had me until you said "safe space" and then I saw your post history.

so you want to ignore current conspiracies happening right before pur eyes? fuck that!

Let's close our eyes to a very real conspiracy going on right now. Seth Rich murder for one. False flag shootings. Hoax shootings. Fake news. etc. Let's hash over very ancient conspiracies that have been gone over until they are the proverbial dead horse. Kick it some more. BTW, there's more recent stuff that came out about Oswald.

seriously. OP should have just wrote:

can we kick dead horses and ignore whats going on right now?

also. no one talks about the lawsuit against the DNC for the primaries.

That whole thing stinks to high heaven. It's not even a dead horse. Seth Rich and the whole DNC needs to be investigated for high crimes. And the one who filed that lawsuit, he's dead too. What a mess.

That whole thing stinks to high heaven. It's not even a dead horse. Seth Rich and the whole DNC needs to be investigated for high crimes. And the one who filed that lawsuit, he's dead too. What a mess.

I agree one hundred percent.

Sorry the sarcasm gets lost in text some times. OP would rather we beat dead horses instead of watching this.

No worries. I think we need a list of these criminals and their crimes. Lock them all up. Hang them high. This lawlessness in government needs to end.

Hang them high.

Right on the white house lawn if necessary.

Three gallows. Swamp King Comey in the center. Lynch to the left and Hillary to the right.

I'm fine with that. Comey should have put Lynch and Hillary in jail.

He's Hillary's lap dog. That wasn't going to happen. Ever. Lynch defended Hillary and Bill during White Water investigation. Comey let them off the hook. He used the intent defense.

the intent defense.

And the best part, the law doesn't require intent for it to be broken. Such a fucking scam.

Yes, it is a scam. It's a fake defense. Like they accidentally break the law without intent. Hillary and Bill both were lawyers. Both lost the right to practice law. They KNOW the law. So does Comey. The only time the intent is valid is if someone accidentally breaks the law. Like you accidentally forget to put an item on the cashier's table to pay for it. No intent. It's not theft. But if you cover the problem up and lie about it, that's intent. You lose that defense. But remember this, which everyone gets wrong. Comey, during his speech to the press he claimed that Hillary did not intend to harm the USA concerning the emails and handling classified data. Which is an even weaker defense. She did intend to break the law. He couldn't even try to make that defense of Hillary. So he didn't.

Not a bad idea!! I would totally be into this.

I think it's a great idea. Maybe make it "9/11 and before only" or something like that so current politics don't find their way into the discussion. I'd love to get into serious discussions about things like the Federal Reserve and JFK assassination and 9/11 without Hillary or Trump or Russia coming up every 5 comments.

However, if something uber-important comes up, the mods should suspend the rule for the day and post a sticky. Like if foolproof evidence of the Clintons having Seth Rich killed or of a Trump-Russia connection were to surface, or if there's a possible false-flag terror attack or something.

I'd like to see more about the supposed grey, reptoid, and Nordic aliens.

There should be a 20 year rule like askhistorians has it.

I'm totally down with this.

Or just flair on a post really...you could sort out which posts you want to see.

ah god please, this place used to so much cooler!

Not Sunday, Sunday is the shills day off.

I said it months ago that the sub should split current political discussions from other conspiracy discussions.

The idea would be to enforce stricter posting guidelines on the non-political sub.

that would be great!

PLEASE

Cool yeah, lets call it censorship sunday

As long as Monday-Saturday are Seth Rich days!!!

Downvote and move along. Everything is political.

How about weekends? Why just one day?

Wtf??? Rules in a conspiracy place. This is the end.

Nope. If you have something interesting to say, start a post. Don't censor other people on here.

It would be great to do this on weekends. Political news has been very very slow on Sundays, and I think a lot of us would appreciate getting a day devoted to classic conspiracy. Thanks for the suggestion.

I think it would be awesome!

more out there things like spiritualism and the occult. Tesla knew that

Make a provable hypothesis. If you can violate non-locality through telepathy, or interdimensional travel or whatever, make an experiment and post the video!

That's how science works. We have happily adopted Tesla's electrical inventions, but he didn't make a testable hypothesis for his spiritual beliefs. Prove that you're right. Convince us.

Do you listen/watch Joe Rogan?

Preaching nationalism as usual. Keep it up...

Give internationalism a shot. None of us exists in a vacuum.

What kind of topics interest you

Idk if we should restrict anything more than necessary, I kinda just thought like a daily green thread post like "alien Monday (hopefully something less lame)

followed with a starter post (same posts about aliens, nazis, secret societies, hidden history, media manipulation, political collusion, war atrocities etc circulate here weekly/monthly anyway) just to get things rolling- buy in no way restrict other content that branches off

Idk, I'd hate to use "the Donald" as an example because many here probably can't stand that place- but the daily sticky threads there work for them. We could do that here but less circle-jerky and more attuned to this subs culture maybe.

Ikr. This place is full of muh-russia conspiritards that want the Seth Rich discussion to end. Fuck them. HIS NAME WAS SETH RICH!

agreed, stupid for some not doubt, deliberate dividing and conquering and smear association.

'lets all say social-political criminality is no more deviant than UFOs'

r/conspiracy is about human based conspiracy, the exposing of and deconstruction of. a forensic discussion subreddit.

This comment of yours is lower down, and it's in the positive compared to the downvoted critical comments higher up in the thread.

This thread will be the justification for weakening the sub; it's happening in front of us.

the fact that some people downvoted you, shows that there are people who love censorship and thus have no purpose here.

"I only want my conspiracies that I approve of"

Damn dude, you sound angry.

an alternative to 'LOL U mad bro'

are you a paid shill for some org, as well as a mod here !?

We'll see, but the future of the sub has always been in doubt after seeing what happened to the other major subs and those subs critical of moderation of reddit.

It's not a question of if, but when.

Well at least they ask questions from the establishment irrespective of the political affiliations of the various governments. People won't get divided into "libtards" and "deplorables". That's what I was trying to say all along.

In a nutshell what I was saying was that if only for a day could the conspiracy subreddit be other than Clintons, Trump and other political people.

Then again it's my opinion. You can either like it or hate it.

Is is possible to objectively reduce the quantity of self-posts?

seriously. OP should have just wrote:

can we kick dead horses and ignore whats going on right now?

also. no one talks about the lawsuit against the DNC for the primaries.

He's just saying have in singular thread devoted to a specific topic (such as aliens) to post about in a visible place when it would otherwise her drowned it in a bunch of posts about politics. He doesn't mean limit all other discussion in any way.