Reptilians are very real in my world, along with Sophia. I've had dreams of both entities.

Reptiallians in the space lizard David icke sense I've come to think of as very fake.

However the book of Enoch, demons and Angels stuff seems quite real to me now

Do you have any specific links for the Saturn Moon Matrix that you'd prefer?

http://awakeningforums.com/thread/546/saturn-worship-til

Never saw your reply. Thanks I'll look at it later.

bad choices harden u here, good ones make u float

Archons Schmarchons... Same shit different day... The devil wears a lot of different clothes, but at the end of the day the devil is still the devil.

Archon is a gnostic term. While maybe not as old as angels and demons, still pretty darn old. I do understand what you're saying though. Demons, flyers, our predator, reptilians, black iron prison, the shadow's mind, etc. All do seem to be the same thing.

There's more to the Archons than just "they are the bad Demons, Angels are good". I recommend "Not in his image" by John Lamb, if you want to see, why the Telestei/Gnostics considered archons our siblings and not our enemies.

The Archons only purpose in Earth's 3rd Density is to deceive. They are not our siblings. They are negative polarity souls from Andromeda. I would trust David Icke, Cobra, Robert Stanley, Simon Parkes over Lash if that's his view. The Archons and the Reptilians are the PRIMARY enemies of humanity at this point. Even more directly than Lucifer.

They are created through the plunge of Sophia - so they are our disabled, blind siblings. Especially the demiurge, Yaldabaoth. They excel in error, which is their game - deception, fear, isolation etc. There is nothing "evil", there are no enemies in a way, that there is merely a lack of light. They will lose their grip on every soul, who realizes their powerless and low position. As long as you see them as powerful, controlling and dominating, they will thank you for buying into their deception and artificial polarity (there is no polarity).

Siblings is a very poor choice for a word. We are barely related and only distantly. They aren't evil but they are selfish and lack a soul. No empathy.

John Lamb is cool, have you ever read John Lashes work?

not yet, I hear that this Lash is quite controversial. David Icke quotes him all the time, what a nut oô

Id forget about David Icke as far as a barometer for Lashes work as I personally can't distinguish anymore where Icke sits on the spectrum of b.s. I found Lash really well spoken and able to back up what he talk about. Although I will admit it's a much different account or perspective on history. I hope you enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSltHCIr4cA

Even if I don't support icke or lash 100%, there are still good bits here and there in their own work. You don't need to subscribe to Ickes Reptilians, if you want to read about his works regarding the Clintons or the Saturn Moon Matrix. The same for Lash and his far right attitude in the last years. The goal of Lash is to murder the elite and anyone working for them (listen to his new stuff). But I like his work on the Archons, he shed's light on work, that the Elite tried to destroy.

You mean his "Contra-violence" approach? Yeah its a little much but I do like the idea of people gathering to support a higher form of "magic"/ spiritual principles that would counter the satantic or darkness rituals.

Overall I reasonate with your level of dicernment. Cheers.

I think so too. Lash thought, that the Telestei were too "kind" and naive, even with their knowledge and direct experience with Sophia (initiation). Intruders were able to destroy their knowledge and heritage like that. To counter the same deception today, he likes to fight them with every ability (physical, psychic) organized like the Archons do. I kinda resonate with this approach, but I don't think, that this is the best or most appropriate way at this stage. I understand, that resistance is necessary, like the body recognizes, isolates and destroys harmful substances. There needs to be a global awakening, which is still the first part in this analogy, I don't see us there yet. Glad that you resonate with my level of thinking...hard to find someone :)

I think, that Icke got the Archons AND the reptilians wrong. But that's no problem, because there is still some truth to both ideas regarding his work. Archons are an influence in our holographic "reality", reptilians seem to be genetically involved in our traits, especially in those of psychopaths and their reactions.

Yup! 100% agree.

Archons is the original term for demons.

The 'devil' is not so much an actual figure as a Church archetype. Satan and Lucifer are not the same thing. The Archons are the deceivers who interact with and manipulate human beings directly. Lucifer is just the coordinator, but is closer to an A.I. than an actual being now.

Yes they are real. The Archons incarnated into human bodies are the main obstacle holding us back from Full Disclosure on many topics. They are primarily controlling the Jesuits, Zionists, Wahhabists, and there is another control group called the 'CHIMERA' which is even higher up yet unseen by most people. Archons are coordinated by Yaldaboath (Gnostic name for Lucifer) from the plasma field around the Earth.

In the Old Testament Lucifer communicated as the gods Yahweh and Jehovah, and the Archons have been behind the Priesthood of the Church, Freemasonry, and other co-opted systems since.

In the Old Testament Lucifer communicated as the gods Yahweh and Jehovah, and the Archons have been behind the Priesthood of the Church, Freemasonry, and other co-opted systems since.

Yahweh/Jehova/Allah is not Lucifer. That is Saturn, the supreme architect of this reality. Lucifer is a lesser being with conflicting goals to this figure, but neither entities are "good" in our sense.

Yup totally believe in them! John Lash is an astounding scholar on the matter. Here's his site, tons of rich history. https://www.metahistory.org/gnostique/archonfiles/AlienIntrusion.php

prepare for downvotes, if you just mention Lash or Icke here. I do think that he gets it the most. His website is quite full of fascinating articles. There should be more research regarding Archons, the generation of them and Sophia.

Thanks, man, personally I don't care about the downvotes, quite frankly if anyone is talking about archons, Lash is an important scholar on the subject. I think it's also important to note that Lash isn't a huge fan of David Icke.. They shouldn't be lumped together.

Lash despises the context and use of the word "Archons" in the way, Icke is using it. icke is using it, like people use it in this thread - the evil, bad demons and entities. Lash makes the distinction, that Archons are related to us through the plunge of Sophia. Nothing external or new, they envy us as organic, creative entities with access to the higher realms. I think, that it's important to read much about Gnostics, Archons etc, even if Icke for example doesn't get them right. To get out of the deception is to look the Archons in the eye, not to fear them and label them as something, that they are not - at least to my understanding.

Yeah, this is how I've interpreted the information as well. Seems we share a lot of understanding. kudos!

Here's some links and research on archons and other reverse consciousness

http://awakeningforums.com/thread/553/psychic-parasites-dimensional-beings-occult

http://awakeningforums.com/thread/122/dimensional-negative-parasites-feeding-mankind

Yup! 100% agree.

http://awakeningforums.com/thread/546/saturn-worship-til