that doesn't answer my question at all, and in fact would support my assertion that this was likely not an assassination attempt, but rather a mass shooting targeting GOP lawmakers in general.
Only conservative insane people commit crimes for political reasons. Liberal crazy people commit crimes because they're crazy. Crazy being crazy isn't much of a story even if there are congressmen involved.
So far it seems almost identical to gabby giffards shooting. Primary differences being people died and the media imagined a right wing motivation to push their agenda.
network news broke in at 8am and didn't end coverage until after 12:30pm....how is that downplaying it? that's 4 hours straight, longer than for any other event in at least a year (longer even than for Pulse, when 49 people were killed)
The fact that they're covering it longer makes worse when their coverage is based on lies, half truths, and omitting key information to spin the narrative away from the fact that it was a targeted assassination attempt of elected leaders from a single party.
Turning the actions of a disturbed individual into a political issue is never a smart idea.
It's what "they" want us to do, to keep bickering about these kinds of things while they rape and pillage our planet, exploit the working class, rule from behind closed doors over their brandys and cigars.
No, the person was stating a fact. The shooter worked for Sanders over the election and was a member of FB groups which openly called for the killing of right-wingers.
This is not true. A campaign volunteer is not an employee of Bernie Sanders. Even if he did get paid for campaign work, your words make it sound like he was Bernies body man or something. It really takes away from your credibility when you exaggerate like that when being told another viewpoint.
Now come back to this thread a few hours later and look at the voting. You were so right about today, but it was a little more surgical than in the past.
Everyone on this forum is always quick to point out false flags.
Who is to say this isn't actually Trump's doing? It certainly seems rather convenient of a distraction from all the problems his administration has been having.
It says based on context. The context is the poster instantly spamming my inbox with nonsense that gets more and more incredible while ignoring points that have already been made and refuted.
A crazy leftist who was riled up by the media and tried to kill Republicans is a dream come true for Trump. It validates his fight with the media because it would show that they're turning people into terrorists. If it's a false flag, I think it benefits Trump and Republicans.
f it's a false flag, I think it benefits Trump and Republicans.
Exactly. Which is why, for the first time in this subs history, the token "this shooting was a false flag!" thread is buried in /controversial instead of on the front page.
Am I supposed to be heartbroken that a lone gunman killed some congressmen?
What difference does political affiliation matter here? I'd be equally indifferent whether they were democrats.
Bring back the guillotine 2017
"Mass assassination" attempt lmao
Assassination implies high profile targets. When the news broke, I didn't know any of these guys, save the anti-child trafficking senator.
I'd say there's two possibilities: crazed gunman gets excited to kill congressmen and does it or b false flag to deter child trafficking legislation, and maybe be pizza-gate related.
And honestly, fuck all politicians, but if you really believe Bernie was controlled opposition and Trump is a savior, you're already too fucked to believe any other narrative people tell you.
The fact that they're covering it longer makes worse when their coverage is based on lies, half truths, and omitting key information to spin the narrative away from the fact that it was a targeted assassination attempt of elected leaders from a single party.
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n/a robaloie 2017-06-14
How is it being down played?
n/a ShariaBlue1732 2017-06-14
Again, writing it off as just a shooting, etc., instead of actively describing it as an assassination attempt.
n/a Edogawa1983 2017-06-14
who's the target?
n/a immense_and_terrible 2017-06-14
What is the difference between a mass shooting and an assassination? How do you know which one it was?
n/a Edogawa1983 2017-06-14
a specific target
n/a immense_and_terrible 2017-06-14
so how do you know there was a specific target intended?
n/a Edogawa1983 2017-06-14
we don't, just people making baseless accusations.
n/a HBTaskForceRedLeader 2017-06-14
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rep-desantis-shooting-suspect-asked-if-republicans-or-democrats-field-n772351
n/a immense_and_terrible 2017-06-14
that doesn't answer my question at all, and in fact would support my assertion that this was likely not an assassination attempt, but rather a mass shooting targeting GOP lawmakers in general.
n/a RecoveringGrace 2017-06-14
You mean, like, specifically trying to assassinate them??
n/a immense_and_terrible 2017-06-14
assassination is the targeting of a specific person.
this man clearly didn't care who they were, just what they were (GOP)
n/a HBTaskForceRedLeader 2017-06-14
Are you really just arguing the semantics of assassination and mass shooting? He was trying to assassinate a GOP member for political purposes.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/assassination
n/a immense_and_terrible 2017-06-14
my understanding is that this was a semantic debate about how the media is covering this event
"words matter" and all that, eh?
n/a ConspiracyAccount 2017-06-14
It's being censored across Reddit. Many posts taken down, forum sliding, and mods nuking comment sections in the posts they allowed to stay up.
n/a robaloie 2017-06-14
What are they censoring? Newt Gingrich just said this is a pattern of the left. What are they hiding?
n/a bannanaflame 2017-06-14
Only conservative insane people commit crimes for political reasons. Liberal crazy people commit crimes because they're crazy. Crazy being crazy isn't much of a story even if there are congressmen involved.
So far it seems almost identical to gabby giffards shooting. Primary differences being people died and the media imagined a right wing motivation to push their agenda.
n/a RecoveringGrace 2017-06-14
And, of course, they are just reasonably upset. Nothing to see here, folks.
n/a ShariaBlue1732 2017-06-14
I wish we were allowed to link to redacted. You should have seen some of the justifications they were posting.
n/a ConspiracyAccount 2017-06-14
Because it was a proglib. Simple as that.
n/a atlanticcity93 2017-06-14
network news broke in at 8am and didn't end coverage until after 12:30pm....how is that downplaying it? that's 4 hours straight, longer than for any other event in at least a year (longer even than for Pulse, when 49 people were killed)
n/a ShariaBlue1732 2017-06-14
The fact that they're covering it longer makes worse when their coverage is based on lies, half truths, and omitting key information to spin the narrative away from the fact that it was a targeted assassination attempt of elected leaders from a single party.
n/a immense_and_terrible 2017-06-14
Turning the actions of a disturbed individual into a political issue is never a smart idea.
It's what "they" want us to do, to keep bickering about these kinds of things while they rape and pillage our planet, exploit the working class, rule from behind closed doors over their brandys and cigars.
Don't fall for it.
n/a ShariaBlue1732 2017-06-14
It was turned political when a former DNC/Bernie Sanders employee actively sought out to kill Republicans.
n/a immense_and_terrible 2017-06-14
Are we all solely defined by which political party we affiliate with?
I would think that fellow conspiracy theorists would be less close-minded than this.
n/a Rd2See-Leusi 2017-06-14
I'm having trouble finding the part where the other guy said that.
n/a immense_and_terrible 2017-06-14
He said it was political because the shooter was a bernie supporter and allegedly worked for the DNC at one point.
n/a BorisKafka 2017-06-14
Maybe they just MK Ultra'd a patsy fall guy for the Seth Rich murder.
n/a RecoveringGrace 2017-06-14
Oh, god, I hope you're wrong.
n/a 56kmodemsounds 2017-06-14
No, the person was stating a fact. The shooter worked for Sanders over the election and was a member of FB groups which openly called for the killing of right-wingers.
n/a realconspiracayylmao 2017-06-14
"Employee"
This is not true. A campaign volunteer is not an employee of Bernie Sanders. Even if he did get paid for campaign work, your words make it sound like he was Bernies body man or something. It really takes away from your credibility when you exaggerate like that when being told another viewpoint.
n/a RecoveringGrace 2017-06-14
How is this not political? Are you going to try to say this was random? You are too much sometimes.
n/a mastigia 2017-06-14
Now come back to this thread a few hours later and look at the voting. You were so right about today, but it was a little more surgical than in the past.
n/a RecoveringGrace 2017-06-14
It was very well planned.
n/a mastigia 2017-06-14
I think they are losing resources. That might actually be a bad thing. They will get better at their jobs when they can't rely on brute force.
n/a immense_and_terrible 2017-06-14
Everyone on this forum is always quick to point out false flags.
Who is to say this isn't actually Trump's doing? It certainly seems rather convenient of a distraction from all the problems his administration has been having.
n/a ShariaBlue1732 2017-06-14
Do you get paid by the post, hour, or ton of bullshit?
n/a immense_and_terrible 2017-06-14
So I'm guessing you're using a 16 day old account because you get banned a lot, eh?
n/a ShariaBlue1732 2017-06-14
Today is June 14th, not 16th.
n/a immense_and_terrible 2017-06-14
oh sorry, thanks. it's been a long week so far, what with this terrible heat wave and all
n/a BorisKafka 2017-06-14
Did you just assume that he uses a Gregorian calendar?
n/a Amos_Quito 2017-06-14
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(Rule 10 is not a hoax)
n/a ShariaBlue1732 2017-06-14
It says based on context. The context is the poster instantly spamming my inbox with nonsense that gets more and more incredible while ignoring points that have already been made and refuted.
n/a RecoveringGrace 2017-06-14
Wait. Didn't you just warn everyone of the dangers of considering this as political? I'm confused. Can you clarify?
n/a immense_and_terrible 2017-06-14
by "political," i meant "motivated by political ideology"
if this was a false flag by the current administration, it would be motivated by self preservation.
n/a jrlovejr92 2017-06-14
A crazy leftist who was riled up by the media and tried to kill Republicans is a dream come true for Trump. It validates his fight with the media because it would show that they're turning people into terrorists. If it's a false flag, I think it benefits Trump and Republicans.
n/a immense_and_terrible 2017-06-14
Exactly. Which is why, for the first time in this subs history, the token "this shooting was a false flag!" thread is buried in /controversial instead of on the front page.
This sub used to be pretty good, you know.
n/a FramingHips 2017-06-14
Am I supposed to be heartbroken that a lone gunman killed some congressmen?
What difference does political affiliation matter here? I'd be equally indifferent whether they were democrats.
Bring back the guillotine 2017
"Mass assassination" attempt lmao
Assassination implies high profile targets. When the news broke, I didn't know any of these guys, save the anti-child trafficking senator.
I'd say there's two possibilities: crazed gunman gets excited to kill congressmen and does it or b false flag to deter child trafficking legislation, and maybe be pizza-gate related.
And honestly, fuck all politicians, but if you really believe Bernie was controlled opposition and Trump is a savior, you're already too fucked to believe any other narrative people tell you.
n/a ShariaBlue1732 2017-06-14
The fact that they're covering it longer makes worse when their coverage is based on lies, half truths, and omitting key information to spin the narrative away from the fact that it was a targeted assassination attempt of elected leaders from a single party.
n/a RecoveringGrace 2017-06-14
You mean, like, specifically trying to assassinate them??
n/a HBTaskForceRedLeader 2017-06-14
Are you really just arguing the semantics of assassination and mass shooting? He was trying to assassinate a GOP member for political purposes.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/assassination
n/a mastigia 2017-06-14
I think they are losing resources. That might actually be a bad thing. They will get better at their jobs when they can't rely on brute force.
n/a robaloie 2017-06-14
What are they censoring? Newt Gingrich just said this is a pattern of the left. What are they hiding?