Do you accept the town was real? With real people living in it?

If so, people from the town, especially since it's a relatively wealthy suburb, would know the victims, or realize nobody has heard of any of them.

It's really that simple.

You need to research how many of the participants were new to the community.

Did you guys ever go school?

If 20 kids were supposed to have been murdered, parents of other children would say, "did anyone know the parents? Did any of our kids know the victims? Does anyone know any of the school workers?" It wouldn't take long to figure out, hey, this thing that was supposed to have happened in our town, nobody knows any of these people that supposedly lived here?

How hard would it have been to compartmentalize it? Hypothetical…a man enters the school firing off blanks…people scatter and hide in fear for their lives. Later they are told that some people died. They don't really know the people as they were new to the community (and many of whom have now left the community). They won't question a word of it.

Medics were kept out of the school…only a few cops entered

People claim it would take 1000s to pull this off and it's complete rubbish.

Some new people to the community were told "some people died"

WTF are you talking about?

And where would this concern be aired…disseminated to the public? CNN?

You think people that had concerns about this would feel comfortable coming forward to voice those concerns knowing what the perpetrators went through to achieve their ends?

Or is critical thinking not one of your strong suits?

Ahh, critical thinking?

Let's see. A town full of 27,000 mostly wealthy people knows that a school in their town was used for a fake school shooting.

They're all silenced. The law enforcement, the school admin (if you believe the school was actually real) the parents, the young students. And their friends.

It's 2017. They wouldn't have to go on CNN to speak their minds.

Strawman alert!!! lol

Why would the whole town know it was a fraud? How many people actually went in the school? Do you know? What do the students and their parents…and their friends...have to do with anything? They, like you, believe what they've been told.

For the record we've heard from several people from SH (including first responders) that have concerns about what happened that day but they are rightly concerned about voicing those concerns publicly.

You see…there are many people…the majority, in fact…that haven't spent 5 min researching this yet are willing to denigrate anyone that has…people like, oh, I don't know…you?

How have you heard from several people if they're afraid of voicing concerns publicly? If you've heard from them, then you can't complain there is a conspiracy of silence.

The students and parents and kids have a lot to do with it - They live in the same town as the supposed victims. They don't have to rely on what they see and read in the news.

The school would have been filled with other kids who survived the attack, as well as teachers. If all the kids told mom and dad that nothing happened, well, that would be a bit suspicious? If all the teachers didn't see anything, well? Don't you think they'd wonder where we're all these kids that were supposed to have died? Or they do just take it on faith there was a mass shooting in their small school which somehow they missed the evidence of?

How have you heard from several people if they're afraid of voicing concerns publicly?

Because they've contacted us privately…lol…are you really that obtuse?

As I've mentioned to another poster in this thread…if someone wearing a mask walked into the school and fired off a clip full of blanks no one would know the difference. They would have hidden…been scared out of their minds and believed whatever they were told about the level of destruction.

Seriously how hard is that to understand?

If you had 6 relatively new employees at your place of work and I walked in and started shooting off blank rounds…you'd run and hide and believe whatever you were told. If they said the new employees were killed you'd have no reason to doubt it.

Because that isn't what happened.

People were murdered in the same room as were people who survived. They saw it.

In addition, people were injured who didn't die. Hard to do with blanks.

Unfortunately you have zero corroborating evidence for those statements.

No children have been interviewed publicly that stated they saw anyone shot…there is nothing unredacted in the report of anyone claiming they saw anyone die…and no injuries were publicly shown.

So you're simply parroting a narrative fed to you by the media…who also has no corroborating evidence for the claims.

No. Not just the media. The first responders. The Connecticut police. The state department of emergency services and public protection. And released interviews with adult witnesses.

You can find multiple examples of this: "Police Lt. Christopher Vanghele said he and another officer found what appeared to be about 15 bodies, mostly children, packed in a bathroom. So many people had tried to cram inside the bathroom that the door couldn't be closed, and Lanza gunned them all down, Vanghele surmised.

Vanghele also recalled another officer carrying a little girl in his arms and running for the exit. Vanghele ran with him through the parking lot as the officer repeated, "Come on, sweetie; come on, sweetie." The girl didn't survive."

But hey, your side has Alex Jones and spooky YouTube videos!

That's not evidence…that's a narrative. You clearly don't know the difference.

The librarian stated that as soon as the shooting started she went to lock the library doors and saw a man in the hallway with a gun. Lanza never went to that area and the cops hadn't arrived yet.

Since you put so much stock in those statements then we have a second shooter…and a conspiracy.

If someone talking about what they saw is only a narrative and not evidence, then it doesn't matter what anyone who was there says, does it? But you might want to check all the details of what the librarians (there were more than 1) have talked about.

You also have children who were still alive and brought to the hospital, and then died there. So, the hospital staff would have to be in on this as well. If, as you previously stated, the gun was full of blanks.

Oh, and multiple family members are currently suing NBC for the Megyn Kelly/Alex Jones interview. I suppose the law firm representing these government actors would have to be in on it as well. Or else they failed to do the same due diligence of neckbeards on the internet, who discovered the Truth, on YouTube and message boards.

I said…you have zero corroborating evidence…and you don't. Nothing but statements…many of which contradict one another.

And no…not the hospital staff…just the person who made the statement.

Anyone can sue anyone for anything in the US…that's hardly evidence either.

So do you have ANYTHING besides contradictory statements and personal attacks?

Btw…you are correct…it doesn't matter what anyone said apart from how those statements contradict one another. Try convicting someone of murder without more than just the statements of alleged witnesses.

You need evidence. And there is no EVIDENCE in the narrative or the final report to convict that kid. If I'm wrong…prove it.

You mentioned critical thinking previously, but you don't understand the term. I'll explain something important.

An elementary element of it is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The burden of proof is on you. You can stomp and storm about the lack of evidence, but don't forget what your beliefs consist of - only a denial of the official events. You aren't convinced. You notice idiosyncrasies or inconsistencies, and think that's a smoking gun - it isn't. What are the popular ones pointed at by the truthers? The dad was acting funny. They forgot to photoshop the girl's legs...whatever.

The residents of Newtown, the school staff - all the teachers, admin, janitors - the students, their parents, the law enforcement, the media, the first responders, the health care professionals etc are all lying, either through intense fear or through being complicit?

Someone walked in shooting blanks, and nobody noticed! Nobody saw dead bodies. THEY just said 28 people died, and everyone believed it!SO easy to pull off! Never mind the 2 people who were shot and lived. Or those who died at the hospital.

And what happened to the child actors who supposedly died? Did they get sent into Hillary's child sex ring!? And what happened to all the surviving parents? Have they vanished...only to sue NBC this week? What have they been doing since? Surely not working at jobs where people have contact with them, or socializing with friends and family who have known them before and after the attack! Oh, no!

Ok, both of you. Instead of endless speculating, take an objective look at the evidence. The best compilation of evidence I have found is the documentary We Need To Talk About Sandy Hook.. It's very long but is timestamped by subject @ 1:53.

TY for the video, but I'm not speculating on anything. I accept the verdict that 27 people were killed by the kid, who then committed suicide.

The speculation that exists that this is not true, is not compelling. What it requires is:

A. An unbelievably nefarious group of conspirators, powerful enough to hush up all the potential whistleblowers, and also round up actors to take part in this fakery.

B. Complete imbeciles. What holes do people see, that are pointed out? A discrepancy in the guns...the laughing father...signs of Emile Parker still living...donation pages set up before the event, etc.

A doesn't mesh with B. You need them to simultaneously be evil geniuses and complete fucking morons. Because the only way these recent popular CT are ever exposed, is through supposed idiotic holes. It's the same with Seth Rich...they staged a robbery but forgot to rob him!

Np, but your argument is one from incredulety - "I can't believe it therefore it didn't happen." The video I linked takes apart every single piece of evidence we have.

So look at the evidence objectively. If SH is really as cut and dry as you say ( which it isn't) you should easily be able to debunk it.

An elementary element of it is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The burden of proof is on you.

No…no it's not. Public resources were used to investigate this event. No evidence from this tax payer funded investigation has been released to the public. FOIA requests denied…Lanza's personal effects, writings, toxicology report…not released.

The burden of proof…geezus I can't believe I have to explain this to a grown person…is on the state to prove it's case against a defendant. In this case the defendant is Lanza. This kid has been pilloried. His name will forever be spoken with derision and hate…yet not one piece of corroborating evidence has been shared with the public that funded the investigation.

The Town Clerk broke the law when she refused to release death certificates to the public. Instead of being reprimanded or punished in anyway the law was changed to retroactively make her actions legal.

A town clerk that also just happened to be engaged to the Newtown Volunteer Fire Chief.

I'm done with you.

No, you don't understand burden of proof. I'll explain it more, since you're confused.

There is a legal burden of proof which is separate and moot. Adam Lanza is dead, and there Sandy Hook families accept him as the killer.

There is the philosophical burden of proof.

The status quo, the common assumption, is that Lanza did it. You deny it. You're making the extraordinary claim. The burden of proof is on you. If you deny this, if you try to shift it off you...ok. Guess what? The status quo maintains itself. The common assumption will remain that Lanza did it. The end.

Very interesting. Do you have some links to these photos, like the parking situation, signs, pizza boxes, etc? Or recommendations on where to find them?

You left out the most important topic; turning the frogs gay.

You left out the most important topic; turning the frogs gay. That is more important.

https://youtu.be/Vg-5WgcMV_o

This is gold.

8 shills and counting, lol.

11 shills and counting, lol.

Google.

"Why are all the cars facing the building when that would require them to have all been backed in or have been parked at the same time?"

Why would you expect them not to front fill, like Disney? When someone pulls in, they pull forward. The person behind them also pulls in. That's two cars facing forward.

So where did 2 cars in the front row go? If your theory is correct then 2 cars are missing…where did they go?

People can't leave a school? Also, what is the agrumeng about all the other cars not facing the school?

Who'd be leaving at 9:30 in the morning? The day just started.

Alright maybe a parent came in to meet a teacher, some one pulled in behind them. I guess don't get the idea of why someone couldn't leave?

Well it's called an investigation. If someone is going to claim that those parking spots were taken up by the first people in that day then it's safe to assume those front spots would be filled by employees…not parents.

So…which employees…and where did they go and when did they leave.

There is nothing in the report that mentions interviewing someone who had recently been on the scene but left prior to the event occurring.

Do you see now?

A good conspiracy theory relies on a collection of anomalies, never reaching its implied conclusion.

Why was there no xmas decorations shown on any photos taken inside the school? This supposedly happened on December 12th....

FBI muder stats didn't change from before to after the event happened

EMT's would not go rushing into a active shooting situation. Two of the first responding cops were also EMT's, another was a registered nurse. A few minutes after the cops first entered the school, medics were brought in with heart monitors. They used the monitors to check for signs of life. They were in contact with Danbury hospital the entire time and that's how the they were declared dead.

The check-in sign really only matters if it were there before the morning of the 14th, nothing reported so far says it was. With all the police, media and medical personnel there it makes since to keep track of who is there and to keep people away who did not need to be there.

With all the people there, where did you expect them to use the bathroom? Couldn't go in the school obviously so they brought in porta potties a several hours after the shooting.

And they donated food and water for all the people who were there.

At Columbine, porta potties, food & water were also brought in after that shooting. No one seemed to find that odd.

You left out the most important topic; turning the frogs gay.

You left out the most important topic; turning the frogs gay. That is more important.

You mentioned critical thinking previously, but you don't understand the term. I'll explain something important.

An elementary element of it is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The burden of proof is on you. You can stomp and storm about the lack of evidence, but don't forget what your beliefs consist of - only a denial of the official events. You aren't convinced. You notice idiosyncrasies or inconsistencies, and think that's a smoking gun - it isn't. What are the popular ones pointed at by the truthers? The dad was acting funny. They forgot to photoshop the girl's legs...whatever.

The residents of Newtown, the school staff - all the teachers, admin, janitors - the students, their parents, the law enforcement, the media, the first responders, the health care professionals etc are all lying, either through intense fear or through being complicit?

Someone walked in shooting blanks, and nobody noticed! Nobody saw dead bodies. THEY just said 28 people died, and everyone believed it!SO easy to pull off! Never mind the 2 people who were shot and lived. Or those who died at the hospital.

And what happened to the child actors who supposedly died? Did they get sent into Hillary's child sex ring!? And what happened to all the surviving parents? Have they vanished...only to sue NBC this week? What have they been doing since? Surely not working at jobs where people have contact with them, or socializing with friends and family who have known them before and after the attack! Oh, no!