Curious how many flat earthers here have converted back to Sphere-ism and if anyones childhood education involved Flat Earth? A fairly recent first generation cultural phenomenon?
0 2017-06-20 by BadDogInTheDoghouse
0 2017-06-20 by BadDogInTheDoghouse
38 comments
n/a BadDogInTheDoghouse 2017-06-20
Excluding Flat Earth Society. Ive always assumed they were always an extreme minority until recently Im speaking of popular culture Flat Earthism
n/a Red-Vagabond 2017-06-20
Why do you post on a conspiracy forum?
n/a BadDogInTheDoghouse 2017-06-20
Really is it mysterious? We are both human, so look inside yourself for the answer.
n/a Red-Vagabond 2017-06-20
I was just curious. Seeing as how we are both human, look inside yourself to answer your inquiry about "flat earthers".
n/a BadDogInTheDoghouse 2017-06-20
I come here because I am the rare individual that that ignores the ideas I already agree with and enjoy opposing and disagreeable worldviews that challenges my worldview and mind. Its all about progress thru falsifications of my own hypothesis.
Ive realized over the years, I am abnormal because of this. Nobody picks up a book of someone that hates them....I on the other hand find no mental satisfaction in being around a group of people who would agree with me.
n/a Camfella 2017-06-20
So do you still think the flat earthers will be able to falsify your hypothesis? If not, why keep debating them?
n/a BadDogInTheDoghouse 2017-06-20
Most people dont understand the joy and value of communicating with those who would fundamentally disagree with you. The best friends,roommates, conversations I ever had were the ones who would disagree and argued with me all day about how my ideas are wrong.(without the personal offense and hurt feelings) Or why should I only consume media thats going to agree with my worldview? Or why should I only listen to musical styles I like? Show me music I hate and Ill listen to it for 3 hours until I finally "get it"
n/a Camfella 2017-06-20
Flat earth is not that deep of a subject, let alone flat earthers, how much joy can you find in the repetitiveness of it?
n/a BadDogInTheDoghouse 2017-06-20
I guess youd have to love the era of Newton, Royal Society and the historical developments of Philosophies of Science, science history to understand the appeal of arguing against antiNewtonian flat earthism. Its like the same satisfaction an antique collector gets touching and feeling a rare boring artifact for hours on end and daydreaming about its history
n/a RecoveringGrace 2017-06-20
I'm into hollowism these days.
n/a outtanutmeds 2017-06-20
Why would I convert back to being a spinning baller?
n/a TrumpSucksHillsBalls 2017-06-20
It just looks round because your eyes are round.
n/a godlameroso 2017-06-20
A lot of people who believe flat earth once believed the sphere model. Most of these people are going through a phase, and I think it's healthy to question these things. I think it's harmless to consider the possibility for the simple fact that there's like 30 astronauts out of 7 billion people. In other words, the curvature of the Earth or lack therof, has no practical significance to people in general. It is completely irrelevant if the Earth is flat or round in our day to day activities.
The immediate topographical features are of a much more practical concern than any imperceptible curvature. You don't walk down the street, or drive a car, or do your job, or socialize with people based on the curvature of the Earth, so it's almost meaningless. Unless you're an astrologer it makes no practical difference.
And all the light pollution makes astronomy a practically useless hobby.
n/a BadDogInTheDoghouse 2017-06-20
Its only "meaningless" "completely irrelevant" and a "useless hobby" if you lack curiosity and find no value, satisfaction, in knowledge or education. I can assume though, you love sports, or movies, your favorite music or matching sets of furniture in your home? It probably has value to you, because of a whole list of reasons.
n/a godlameroso 2017-06-20
Don't care much for most sports, don't really watch movies, music is important but doesn't define my life. My furniture is a bunch of hand me downs.
How does astrology affect you personally? I can make generalized statements about your life, and blame it all on retrograde mercury, doesn't mean it's practical information.
n/a BadDogInTheDoghouse 2017-06-20
Astrology? I thought we were talking about the "meaninglessness" of Astronomy, Gravity, sciences, my bad
n/a godlameroso 2017-06-20
We still have no idea what mechanism transfers gravitational energy. Have you ever wondered why electromagnetic fields and gravitational fields both follow the inverse squares law?
n/a BadDogInTheDoghouse 2017-06-20
By mechanism you mean bosons and hypothetical gravitons? Yes thats why point particles are changed to (super)strings to explain gravity. It doesnt falsify the science that gave us the awareness and knowledge to ask the questions in the first place concerning quantum wierdness..
Do you have spiritual beliefs? What are the mechanisms that transfers information you receive from god ? If you dont know about the existance of such hypothetical bosons, then does it falsify your metaphysics?
n/a godlameroso 2017-06-20
Science gave us knowledge and awareness, is science some kind of deity that bestows such things? Or did humans, using the tool of science, give themselves knowledge and awareness?
Spiritual beliefs? As in some sort of spiritual being that interacts with us, umm I guess, I'll try anything once.
It doesn't because metaphysics is a tool, and tools have no feelings. I can call my impact gun a flimsy chinesium piece of shit, and it's not going to flinch one bit. Although maybe if I direct enough negative energy at it I can accelerate it's destruction, who knows.
n/a Bruuus 2017-06-20
Sometimes I wake up and it's spherical, other days it's flat. My mind just works like that.
n/a BadDogInTheDoghouse 2017-06-20
Thats ok, im atheist, pantheist, Deist, Humanist or antiHumanist depending upon my mood, or the nightly news.. which makes me a fulltime Absurdist.
n/a casualjane 2017-06-20
Basically, yeah. Except it's not first generation, it's just the first generation for which TRUE vs. FALSE and REAL vs. FAKE has been deliberately blurred and confused while the access to both REAL and FAKE has become unimpeded.
n/a BadDogInTheDoghouse 2017-06-20
Yes. The age of misinformation. My gut feeling is its due to lack of crucial mandatory school classes, like Critical Thinking and Logic.. Cant tell true or false without a strict proven empirical method thats separates subjective from objective, fact from fiction. the kind of empirical method a court of law and both sides would demand and agree upon.
n/a soonerchad 2017-06-20
Op stated in another thread just now that "the sun goes under the pancaked earth" referring to the flat earth theory. (The sun does not go under the "pancake earth" in the theory, the sun goes around the "pancaked earth") Most people think flat earth theory is fake, stupid, and or bullshit because of the simple fact that they do not understand the theory.
n/a BadDogInTheDoghouse 2017-06-20
Yes thats true but dont get offended. Flat earthers think the Ballers are fake, stupid,and bullshit...also flat earthers can believe Im ignorant and possibly satanic and subhuman.....its not a personal attack on ones character, but an argument against the idea. Which should be fair game in a civil society that can be critical without Ad Hominen or personal offense
n/a soonerchad 2017-06-20
You made a post to ridicule a theory you do not understand. Thats all I'm saying.
n/a Another-Chance 2017-06-20
There is a difference in understanding something someone made up for fantasy/fiction and believing in it. I don't need to understand all the theories people come up with for their fictional/fantasy worlds they create for role playing/book writing.
You understand the theory, which is nice for you, but can you tell people here that to you the earth is flat and you can offer real proof of not only that but that every scientist in the world that has worked on space programs is a liar? People who think like that, to me, are delusional.
n/a Red-Vagabond 2017-06-20
User soonerchad brought up the point that this thread was made to ridicule a theory. This is more important than the semantics of understanding something.
n/a Another-Chance 2017-06-20
And some theories should be ridiculed :)
n/a Red-Vagabond 2017-06-20
Ridicule them in a thread that supports that theory. Creating another thread about the subject only perpetuates the idea.
n/a BadDogInTheDoghouse 2017-06-20
Not true, Im curious how many here were raised flat earthers since childhood.
n/a BadDogInTheDoghouse 2017-06-20
Yes I dont understand it, its not ridicule. Science can poo poo an idea like The Ether without disrespecting the personal character of those in the past believed in The Ether
n/a justinxduff 2017-06-20
Lol no its because the theory makes no sense at all
n/a soonerchad 2017-06-20
Doesn't make sense because YOU don't understand it.
n/a justinxduff 2017-06-20
And how would you propose I go about understanding complete nonsense?
n/a soonerchad 2017-06-20
Well you can continue as you're doing now and just be an ass about it. Have fun with that.
n/a King-Hell 2017-06-20
This whole FE resurgence thing in the past few years started as a prank by the Church Of The Subgenius. They picked the most unbelievably ridiculous idea they could find - Flat Earth - and rebooted it on the internet. Their idea was to see how many gullible fools they could convince, and they succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.
n/a BadDogInTheDoghouse 2017-06-20
Thanks, Ill look it up.I remember something about that but its been a long long time. Ive been following conspiracies / creationism/end times since the Satanic Panic and come from a large fundy homeschooled family, but never heard of flat earth as a defense of supernaturalism until only the past few years, without the usual decades long evolutions of conspiracies like spiritual Ufoism. I was curious where this is originating from and if parents are teaching thier children FE. Its seems so suddenly popular from out of nowhere.