Are you open to the possibility dinosaurs are a fakery?

0  2017-06-21 by 435435435

Whilst it sounds a a bit strange at first there's a lot of evidence dinosaurs are quite suss

Could it be a hoax?

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More open to the possibility that you're disinfo tbh

That ... I am a disinformation agent?

Nope just a guy asking a question

That ... I am a disinformation agent?

Nope just a guy goy asking a question

FTFY

The last discussion I made was asking how come a chimney at the holocaust was constructed in... 1947 by the Russians.

So it's fairly safe bet your wrong on this one

17 day old account with the same habits as previous users accusing posters here... Yeah ok.

Account created on 4/20, no wonder it spews incoherent BS amirite

That must be it...

Talk bout dinosaurs or go away pls

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hey everyone look! it's the guy who comes to r/conspiracy every day just just to debunk. he's definitely not a paid troll/s

I wish I was paid for helping you goys

The reservations that immediately come to mind:

Were not dinosaurs discovered back in the 19th century or some long time ago?

Are there not dig sites on all continents of the world?

Youbare correct.

The official story is no dinosaurs were ever Found in the ancient or middle ages

We only know what we are told.

Why are told they "may" have found dinosaur bones in the ancient times an this "may" be why we have a dragon mythology ...

Dragon mythology stems back to plasma eruptions in the sky around the original Saturn sun due to magnetic electric interactions occurring.

Hence the lightning and fire and feathers and whiskers protruding often.

Tails of plasma drawn as a beast. There are lots of plasma discharge drawings that were most likely in the sky a long time ago.

Cool.

I've just read the pro dinosaur lobby is claim dragons are proof of the ancients findin dinosaurs.

Which sounds fishy to me

Sounds like a guess to me.

I'm pretty convinced ancient cave paintings were drawings of plasma discharges and the sun symbolism that came shortly after stemmed from different perspectives of the lining up of Venus mars and Saturn and the product of the reflecting light from Sol behind Saturn.

A polar lined solar system with electrically charged alike planets on different poles of the central sun. Something set them differently and the intersecting polarity between the different planets caused Motion instead of locking. This is probably what created gravity. The plasma reactions between the differently charged electric bodies in space on a vacuum cause motion because electricity is a binary function moving from charge to opposite charge.

We are created out of harmonized electricity vibrating as matter in a limited physical space being focused in through our pineal gland when we are awake.

We are fragmentations of the same original perception and opportunity and our ego creates the illusion that we are individual but we actually share everything.

Dinosaurs seem like a control mechanism to keep the pieces separated more than they already are. Gut feeling because any time tptb bank on nostalgia and money making product off of science I get really skeptical.

Jurassic park was almost just too much for me to not feel like the idea of dinosaurs was being force fed to my childhood. "Appealing" to my sense of wonder.

I don't really try to confirm my bias so much in regards to dinosaurs though. I let the information come to me and as it does I definitely see some suspicious connections between limited scientists working on them and the funding.

The associated aftermath of science that came after their discovery and my uneasy feeling with a lot of that on its own doesn't help my trust in paleo-archeologists on a Dino quest.

The bottom line is that the more I look into the things that the elite are obsessed with I find underlying "truths" that "rewrite" my ideas of how distractions work for the profane.

We may find out someday the extent of the lies, but the "program" is very well written.

After seeing these obviously fake alien mummy https://imgur.com/a/rpC2F, I'm open to challenging the status quo about dinosaurs. It's about time that an audit is done on the supposed dinosaur fossils.

The mummy could be real. It has been there for 800+ years apparently but I am still skeptical.

Yes, the alien could be real, although I highly doubt it. I think we definitely need to check out the dinosaur bones to see if they're actually real, rather than taking the word of the so called experts.

you can see the plaster marks and such on the mummy. its pretty obivously fake from the vid.

Yes. In the sense that i really want to read a conspiracy theory about it...

Nice one. I recommend "dinosaurs are fake" into your search engine. More convincing than I initially expected

No one is denying fiction can be convincing. Magicians can be convincing. Doesn't mean it's true/real.

It's crazy how few actual bones there are. I never knew all the skeletons in museums were replicas.

Never found a whole skeleton ...

So the other half they do find, what is that?

Wait seriously? How much do they find before making a replica?

I forget the specifics, but it's far far less than you would expect. Who knows, maybe it's all you need.

No, idiot.

Some dinosaurs hearts would of had to way 2/3 Tons just to get blood to its head

Impressive yes?

One, source for that claim, because it seems a bit high.

Two, visit the Royal Tyrell museum.

One, you called me an idiot so look it up yourself you lazy rude person.

Museums have mostly fake bones. Most all dinosaurs found are less than 50%

I'm pretty sure museums admit that every bone/skeleton on display is a fake copy/replica.

Whether or not they have the real ones in the back somewhere is up to debate. Personally, I don't.

Ok, I did, estimates are around 150k- 200kg for a brachiosaur.

Royal Tyrell has several nearly complete skeletons. They do use plaster replicas to preserve the originals and fill in gaps. I dated a girl who worked there for 2 years.

Sorry man, I shouldn't have called you an idiot, that was rude.

It has been calculated that the left ventricle of the dinosaur’s heart would have to weigh 2 metric tons to pump blood that high. That is 15 times heaver than the left ventricle of whales. Such an enormous heart muscle would have consumed 64% of the dinosaur’s energy (basal metabolism), leaving the creature little energy for everything else

Neuroscience Explains Why Dinosaurs Couldn’t Get Any Bigger June 8, 2016R. Douglas Fields Leave


That k I was just messing around ie. name calling its all good

Source?

I put the source, r Douglas fields , PhD

Just put a search 'dinosaur heart two tons' And a number of other experts come up discussing it

I did. That seems like a ludicrously high estimate, that would mean that 5-10% of a brachiosaur's total weight was heart, and no animal has had a ratio that high, it's generally around 1%.

I know ... That's why I'm askin are they fake?

Okay, never hear of that one, but i looked it up. It's not that much bigger than a brachi, ratio is still way off.

Think bigger... Dreadnoughtus dinosaurs

As far as I know brachiosaur and brontosaur were the tallest and most massive dinosaurs.

Theyve changed it since we were at school

Yeah, apparently. They do have a partial skeleton, so seems legit.

Removed. Rule 4.

It is a ruse to hide the Giant humans from the past

You mean how the Smithsonian threw out all those giant bones?

Giant/animal hybrids

lol how is this the most upvoted post in this thread?

To answer the OP's question, yes of course I am open-minded to it. The problem is that most of the youtubers who talk about this stuff are straight up charlatans and intellectual frauds. They make all people who question dinosaurs look crazy.

Look, man. Just examine the evidence of the very first dinosaur. Start there and watch your worldview unwind. The were fake from day one.

Terrible lizard!!!! RARRRR!!!!!!

Fucking hilarious that people fell for it, tbh.

People think Santa Claus is real.

It's not that hilarious really... How would we know otherwise? If you are taught it since you are small and impressionable

It's not that hilarious really..

Yea, that was a bit sardonic. It's a sad state of affairs. I'm truly angered by the way these thought-cages were constructed to lockup our minds so many years before we were born. The manner in which they are further enforced by our own contemporaries is just pathetic.

Amen

Go watch the siberian "ethical" ivory hunters blast their own tunnels out for mammoth tusks using fire fighting pumps and hoses. They pull lots of mammoth and woolly rhino skeletons out from under the permafrost. Pretty convincing if you ask me but maybe you only think the older fossil records are being deceptive. I have a couple paliontologists in the extended family and nope... they aren't out there suffering for years at a time in awful conditions to cast fake bones. They could do that pretty easily w/o all the skin cancer and frostbite if that was the trick.

I'm assuming he means all the bones being found aren't dinosaurs, but of course someone who went through college and was taught "these bones are dinosaur bones" wouldn't see anything wrong with them.

They wouldn't know they were being lied to either, if their knowledge was based off lies.

I don't know about this theory too much, just clearing stuff up.

Yeah I'm fully on board with Dinosaurs being either completely fake, or at the very least we're being lied to about them to the point where the mainstream belief is nearly completely false.

Look into the first discoveries and tell me that is the sketchiest stuff.

I'll do that. Thanks for the tip

IIRC they only found a tooth or two and then imagined what the rest of the dinosaur would look like based off that.

Later on there were two scientists competing and discovering over 100 dinosaurs each per year.

Got any sources for looking in to the early dinosaur discoveries?

I'll check it out. Thanks.

Didn't they just mismatch different bones together that didn't even fit just to have more than the other?

Yes, and they've been caught mixing elephant, giraffe, and whale bones for some of them.

Yes. i am open to everything.

I think maybe it's more along the lines that they haven't put together an accurate picture of what dinosaurs looked like based on their bones.

Perfect example - the T-Rex actually had feathers and did not look the way the mainstream society has depicted it.

I heard some speculations about this. Especially with velociraptors. Never saw it as being 100% confirmed or agreed upon in the scientific community.

I don't discard they being real.

But I also think humans had some kind of contact with at least a few of them - thus giving origin to legends of dragons.

Also, is always funny how their "artistic depictions" keep changing throughout the years.

One of the most curious fact about them for me is the discovery of the soft fossil..

I read somewhere, I'll try to dig it up, that dinosaurs are when reptilians ruled earth or something.

No.

Clues Forum has a thread devoted to debunking dinosaurs full of detailed analysis and photographic evidence:

http://www.cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=29&start=270&t=1594

Full of detailed analysis and photographic evidence.

What would be the end game of creating the hoax, developing a science dedicated to it, and funding research?

What purpose does the hoax serve?

I put the source, r Douglas fields , PhD

Just put a search 'dinosaur heart two tons' And a number of other experts come up discussing it

I wish I was paid for helping you goys

Sounds like a guess to me.

I'm pretty convinced ancient cave paintings were drawings of plasma discharges and the sun symbolism that came shortly after stemmed from different perspectives of the lining up of Venus mars and Saturn and the product of the reflecting light from Sol behind Saturn.

A polar lined solar system with electrically charged alike planets on different poles of the central sun. Something set them differently and the intersecting polarity between the different planets caused Motion instead of locking. This is probably what created gravity. The plasma reactions between the differently charged electric bodies in space on a vacuum cause motion because electricity is a binary function moving from charge to opposite charge.

We are created out of harmonized electricity vibrating as matter in a limited physical space being focused in through our pineal gland when we are awake.

We are fragmentations of the same original perception and opportunity and our ego creates the illusion that we are individual but we actually share everything.

Dinosaurs seem like a control mechanism to keep the pieces separated more than they already are. Gut feeling because any time tptb bank on nostalgia and money making product off of science I get really skeptical.

Jurassic park was almost just too much for me to not feel like the idea of dinosaurs was being force fed to my childhood. "Appealing" to my sense of wonder.

I don't really try to confirm my bias so much in regards to dinosaurs though. I let the information come to me and as it does I definitely see some suspicious connections between limited scientists working on them and the funding.

The associated aftermath of science that came after their discovery and my uneasy feeling with a lot of that on its own doesn't help my trust in paleo-archeologists on a Dino quest.

The bottom line is that the more I look into the things that the elite are obsessed with I find underlying "truths" that "rewrite" my ideas of how distractions work for the profane.

We may find out someday the extent of the lies, but the "program" is very well written.