I personally am not offended by people believing in the flat earth. I actually support people believing the flat earth because it hurts the science authoritarians. That said, the idea that anyone who criticizes the theory is a shill or working for NASA is pretty ridiculous.
And if you make a post implicitly flaunting your belief in the flat earth, you should be fine with people questioning your belief. Is gravity real?
i'm not qualified to make an assessment on the "theory of gravity" That's what it is by the way a theory. I am fine with people questioning me although I can see a loaded question. Why is it ridiculous that nasa would have shills? I mean they are lying about the largest thing in history, if I'm right. It would make sense they have shills. They have everything else.. CGI artists. Actors. Swimming pools with a full size ISS.
any proven hypothesis must have an experiment to show proof of concept. You can't say an apple falling from a tree is a proof of concept. because we are not able to visualize what gravity supposedly is. If gravity is holding water the surface of the earth we should have an experiment showing water sticking to a globe. such as the oceans stick the globe earth. but we dont. I have more evidence for buoyancy
Gravity effects gasses too, not sure why you're under the impression we'd lose the atmosphere
And even if it's not a perfect vacuum (I'm fairly certain we can make perfect vacuums, though I'm not comfortable saying with absolutes), we still observe objects falling at the same rate in vacuums we can create on Earth.
The point of the water droplet was to show you how water behaves in microgravity (or freefall if we're denying space). Water doesn't behave like you think it does. The reason water "finds its level" on earth is because of gravity.
but you can't prove thats why water behaves that way.. on earth think of a wet tennis ball. If I throw that what happens? the water flys off in all directions. this is what would happen to earth. why does the earth behave differently because it's much larger? and what point does physics change from spinning wet balls throw water off to hold water in?
thats just a drop of water.. thats not water sticking to a sphere now if you could get a little rock to float in the middle there. you might be onto something
Um I don't? That's the point. There's your proof. Also, bouyancy wouldn't exist without gravity you twat, the equation for calculating bouyancy literally includes gravity.
Buoyant force = density of fluid x volume of liquid x gravitational acceleration or = density x gravitational acceleration x height of liquid x surface area of object. Learn some physics homeboy.
If gravity is not a factor then bouyant gasses would not form seperate layers, they would just diffuse in vacuum or form spherical shapes with one gas inside the other due to intermolecular attractions.
Atmospheric pressure is only a thing because of gravity you still. If there was no gravity there would be no atmosphere because the gasses would diffuse into the vacuum of space.
why do you need answers for every minuscule thing? what is dark matter? why is the sun 93 million miles away? you present a false premise. things still have mass no matter what
really well wow thats good for you. not really helping the argument at all calling people names seems like you gave up on reasoning with me. So referencing the known propaganda that flat earthers dispute is not really arguing. You just copy pasting something. I dont believe that.
because god. how does the god particle work? or dark matter?
even elon musk said we live in a simulation
again you present a false premise. gravity doesn't exist so it doesn't have any affect on anything. heavy things sink while light things float or fall slower.
There's actually been a massive influx of Flat Earth posts (like this one).
You are aware that the Earth was proven round before NASA existed right? Not sure why everyone's hung up on NASA being the key to Flat Earth. I guess all of the world's space agencies are secretly NASA too
NASA being fake doesn't prove that, nor did you address anything else I said
The reason you dont think there's proof isn't because there isn't proof, it's because you think the proof is wrong. Mathematics is the most accurate language that exists, and youre free to think it's wrong, but you have to be able to prove it for others to believe you.
Eratosthenes measured the Earth, but Flat Earthers don't acknowledge that. Actually, funnily enough, Flat Earthers tried to replicate that experiment (on the wrong day of the year lol) and didn't find anything that supported their worldview. Funny that
Also, can you show me a flat Earth map that's not AEP? why isn't there a functioning (doesn't have to be accurate, just working) map of the Flat Earth?
Do you believe in God or are you one of the other kinds of Flat Esther's?
You're not even addressing the questions, you understand that this is why people think you are disinformation right?
Believing the Earth is round is an observation I've made of my own volition. I've studied Flat Earth theory as well, pretty much so I can argue with people like you. Flat Earth can't explain Sigma Octantis. Flat Earth can't explain supermoons. Flat Earth can't explain why the stars appear to rotate counter clockwise in the Northern Hemisphere and Clockwise in the southern. The Globe model can. The Earth may not be a Globe, but there is no other known model that makes more sense than the globe at this present stage in history.
you trust everything other people have told you. all those subjects have been covered in the abundance of flat earth material available on the internet. Unlike your "evidence" I can understand the evidence presented about the flat earth theory. There is only one type of physics. the physics we all see and feel. not this other magical physics we dont feel like the rotation of the earth.
Flat earth makes way more sense than the globe i'm sorry. Why dont' we feel the rotation? why don't we see the curve? why can't we reproduce the way oceans supposedly behave on the globe? why does the horizon always raise to eye level? why can't we address the elephant in the room? freemasonry.
That second video spends the entire time trying to argue that startrail photos (that I can and have taken myself) are fake, and that sigma octantis (which I have seen myself via telescope, along with other southern stars) isn't real
The last video makes the incorrect assumption that Polaris is a fixed point in the sky that never moves
it's not incorrect if the earth is not moving. you still think it's moving.
you obviously aren't looking objectively at the information. You are biased toward your own point of view. Unable to be a judge on the situation.
Go ahead and tell why magnetism is responsible for the effects demonstrated. Why do the experiments match with what we should expect from a rotating Earth? Models are judged by their predictive power.
Do you also believe density as a replacement for gravity? If so:
How does density explain those effects? Why do objects of different densities fall at the same rate in a vacuum?
You're right, it's mainly incorrect because Polaris' location changes regardless of what you think the world looks like. Regardless of whether you think the Earth is round or flat, Polaris is not a constant point in the sky. Its position does vary. That fact just so happens to support the round Earth.
is that supposed to be some sort of bad thing? which is what people always imply. What does it matter where the videos came from. It's a way of sharing information. This knowledge isn't going to be whispered into my ear by a fairy. How else do people share info. I've talked with people read books from the 1800's on flat earth Zetetic Astronomy: Earth not a Globe.
why wouldn't I be willing to disregard science? I saw how school didn't really get anyone ready for the real world. up until college so that is 12 + years of garbage could have been taught in 2 years. I'm not disregarding all science.. I still think the periodic table is accurate. and all of chemistry. Really just questioning the space stuff
just listen to what people say not how they say it.. who cares if they speak monotone if they say something real. and no thats is not what the videos are like
If it was smaller, and closer, and sunrises/sunsets/moonrises/moonsets are because of perspective (moving further away = smaller), why do supermoons happen?
If the Earth isn't a spinning ball, then there is no viable explanation for Foucault Pendulums. Honestly, I have a really hard time taking Flat Earthers seriously.
no... no.... no... wrong so very wrong. I could literally make pendulum bob out of concrete and it would behave identically to a bob made out of a ferromagnetic material.
I consider all the proofs and do my research believe me a few times I've been scared I was wrong about the flat earth.. I dont think i am wrong honestly been looking into it for a few years now. I probably know more about the globe theory than you
because air is a thing and so is dust and our eyes are just like cameras each camera has a specific range it function in just like our eyes do. how hard is that to understand?
ok.. cool good idea... do you know about Antarctica? a treaty was signed by countries who hate each other agreeing not to build or mine anything there. Also to kill anyone who is trying to explore there. so yea there is that
I agree with you that the earth is not moving. This does not mean the earth is flat. Also, what does the word 'proof' mean to you? We can infer that the earth is round from the celestial patterns and from flights. Sometimes it seems like Flat Earth is just controlled opposition to geocentrism.
We live on earth. We don't live on a globe or a flat plane, we live on earth. Saying we live on a globe or we live on a plane is like saying we live on a map.
Yes, recent history is manipulated, but if you ignore ancient history.. You just need to educate yourself a bit more. Dive deeper into the endless hole and you will find out great things! Sciensism and Flat Earth are just a buffer stage show to distract you from going deeper
Okay, maybe I was a bit confusing. I see that every flat earther doesn't believe in space. So Dogons (deeply sorry if I didn't get it right) knew about sirius B and that in my book would be a useless "fake news" information for advanced ancient cultures, as they have been in some point very advanced to gain such knowledge (please ancient alien theory go away, lol) The great pyramid can be used to calculate the dimensions of the globe earth. I don't give any weight to any Roman/Greece or european bs, tbh.
Are those original texts or are those "preserved" by the european monks? The work that was done by them destroyed alot of knowledge.. I'm not trying to be a jackass, but... Yeah.
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n/a Greatsussudio 2017-06-22
Do you believe in gravity
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
who cares what people believe in? I can prove buoyancy more than I can prove gravity.
n/a Greatsussudio 2017-06-22
I personally am not offended by people believing in the flat earth. I actually support people believing the flat earth because it hurts the science authoritarians. That said, the idea that anyone who criticizes the theory is a shill or working for NASA is pretty ridiculous.
And if you make a post implicitly flaunting your belief in the flat earth, you should be fine with people questioning your belief. Is gravity real?
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
i'm not qualified to make an assessment on the "theory of gravity" That's what it is by the way a theory. I am fine with people questioning me although I can see a loaded question. Why is it ridiculous that nasa would have shills? I mean they are lying about the largest thing in history, if I'm right. It would make sense they have shills. They have everything else.. CGI artists. Actors. Swimming pools with a full size ISS.
n/a TheCrawlerFL 2017-06-22
You have a misunderstanding of what a "scientific theory" is.
A scientific theory is a proven hypothesis, not a supposition
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
any proven hypothesis must have an experiment to show proof of concept. You can't say an apple falling from a tree is a proof of concept. because we are not able to visualize what gravity supposedly is. If gravity is holding water the surface of the earth we should have an experiment showing water sticking to a globe. such as the oceans stick the globe earth. but we dont. I have more evidence for buoyancy
n/a TheCrawlerFL 2017-06-22
What is the gravitational constant? Why do objects of different masses fall at the same rate in a vacuum?
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
doesn't a vacuum have to be sealed from a non vacuum? so how does our 'atmosphere' stay here. and not sucked into space?
n/a TheCrawlerFL 2017-06-22
Gravity effects gasses too, not sure why you're under the impression we'd lose the atmosphere
And even if it's not a perfect vacuum (I'm fairly certain we can make perfect vacuums, though I'm not comfortable saying with absolutes), we still observe objects falling at the same rate in vacuums we can create on Earth.
The point of the water droplet was to show you how water behaves in microgravity (or freefall if we're denying space). Water doesn't behave like you think it does. The reason water "finds its level" on earth is because of gravity.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
but you can't prove thats why water behaves that way.. on earth think of a wet tennis ball. If I throw that what happens? the water flys off in all directions. this is what would happen to earth. why does the earth behave differently because it's much larger? and what point does physics change from spinning wet balls throw water off to hold water in?
n/a WeAreTheSheeple 2017-06-22
cough gravity cough
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
thats just a drop of water.. thats not water sticking to a sphere now if you could get a little rock to float in the middle there. you might be onto something
n/a RealityIsAScam 2017-06-22
See how the moon doesn't just float away? There's your experiment buddy.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
because you know what the moon is
n/a RealityIsAScam 2017-06-22
Yeah.... it's a big fucking rock.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
you never answered my questions who cares what people believe in? why do we need to believe anything? I want to understand.
n/a RealityIsAScam 2017-06-22
Here's an idea, try floating off into the atmosphere without any sort of propulsion. Don't worry, I'll wait.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
why don't you since you believe you can do that.
n/a RealityIsAScam 2017-06-22
Um I don't? That's the point. There's your proof. Also, bouyancy wouldn't exist without gravity you twat, the equation for calculating bouyancy literally includes gravity.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
lol someone getting mad? twat hahah
bouyancy doesn't need gravity just like surveyors don't calculate the curve of the earth
some good youtube channels for you
jeranism eric dubay mark sargent
watch a video from each of those guys and tell me you still think it's a globe.. or
come back and swear at me some more which is what you will likely do. why you mad bro? freemasons lying to your kids make you mad?
n/a RealityIsAScam 2017-06-22
Buoyant force = density of fluid x volume of liquid x gravitational acceleration or = density x gravitational acceleration x height of liquid x surface area of object. Learn some physics homeboy.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
buoyancy is not just liquids as many people think. it's gases as well. Gases such as the ones with breath. you know those ones?
n/a RealityIsAScam 2017-06-22
If gravity is not a factor then bouyant gasses would not form seperate layers, they would just diffuse in vacuum or form spherical shapes with one gas inside the other due to intermolecular attractions.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
atmospheric pressure is still a thing. it's just the terminology is wrong because the earth isn't a sphere.
n/a RealityIsAScam 2017-06-22
Atmospheric pressure is only a thing because of gravity you still. If there was no gravity there would be no atmosphere because the gasses would diffuse into the vacuum of space.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
think of being underwater if you go to far your ears would rupture. will the air we breathe has a weight as well same concept.
n/a Norotom5 2017-06-22
weight is caused by gravity, without gravity all you have is weightless mass. Without a force like gravity, how do you achieve weight?
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
why do you need answers for every minuscule thing? what is dark matter? why is the sun 93 million miles away? you present a false premise. things still have mass no matter what
n/a Norotom5 2017-06-22
Holy Crap, like there it is... the single most idiotic sentence I have ever read, thank you.
Buoyancy and Buoyant forces are a direct result of gravity... Gravity is literally what make buoyancy happen.
I'm sorry, but this is one of the times when this video is applicable
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
really well wow thats good for you. not really helping the argument at all calling people names seems like you gave up on reasoning with me. So referencing the known propaganda that flat earthers dispute is not really arguing. You just copy pasting something. I dont believe that.
n/a Norotom5 2017-06-22
Explain to me how buoyant forces occur without a corresponding normal force, because if there is no gravity there is no normal force.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
because god. how does the god particle work? or dark matter?
even elon musk said we live in a simulation
again you present a false premise. gravity doesn't exist so it doesn't have any affect on anything. heavy things sink while light things float or fall slower.
n/a WeAreTheSheeple 2017-06-22
You must be getting paid for this shit. I refuse to believe that you are either this thick or doing this as a troll / laugh.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
you want to talk on the phone? ill give you a temporary phone number
n/a WeAreTheSheeple 2017-06-22
Think I want to talk to you? Naw you can keep your delusions to yourself.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
thats what a thought. go back to sleep sheeple
n/a WeAreTheSheeple 2017-06-22
Yup, religious zealot.
n/a TheCrawlerFL 2017-06-22
There's actually been a massive influx of Flat Earth posts (like this one).
You are aware that the Earth was proven round before NASA existed right? Not sure why everyone's hung up on NASA being the key to Flat Earth. I guess all of the world's space agencies are secretly NASA too
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
the earth has never been proven to be round.
n/a TheCrawlerFL 2017-06-22
NASA being fake doesn't prove that, nor did you address anything else I said
The reason you dont think there's proof isn't because there isn't proof, it's because you think the proof is wrong. Mathematics is the most accurate language that exists, and youre free to think it's wrong, but you have to be able to prove it for others to believe you.
Eratosthenes measured the Earth, but Flat Earthers don't acknowledge that. Actually, funnily enough, Flat Earthers tried to replicate that experiment (on the wrong day of the year lol) and didn't find anything that supported their worldview. Funny that
Also, can you show me a flat Earth map that's not AEP? why isn't there a functioning (doesn't have to be accurate, just working) map of the Flat Earth?
Do you believe in God or are you one of the other kinds of Flat Esther's?
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
freemasons have been faking science for ever so what? yes I believe in god. you are too trusting of mankind.
n/a TheCrawlerFL 2017-06-22
You're not even addressing the questions, you understand that this is why people think you are disinformation right?
Believing the Earth is round is an observation I've made of my own volition. I've studied Flat Earth theory as well, pretty much so I can argue with people like you. Flat Earth can't explain Sigma Octantis. Flat Earth can't explain supermoons. Flat Earth can't explain why the stars appear to rotate counter clockwise in the Northern Hemisphere and Clockwise in the southern. The Globe model can. The Earth may not be a Globe, but there is no other known model that makes more sense than the globe at this present stage in history.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
you trust everything other people have told you. all those subjects have been covered in the abundance of flat earth material available on the internet. Unlike your "evidence" I can understand the evidence presented about the flat earth theory. There is only one type of physics. the physics we all see and feel. not this other magical physics we dont feel like the rotation of the earth.
Flat earth makes way more sense than the globe i'm sorry. Why dont' we feel the rotation? why don't we see the curve? why can't we reproduce the way oceans supposedly behave on the globe? why does the horizon always raise to eye level? why can't we address the elephant in the room? freemasonry.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
n/a TheCrawlerFL 2017-06-22
Supermoons =/= lunar eclipse
That second video spends the entire time trying to argue that startrail photos (that I can and have taken myself) are fake, and that sigma octantis (which I have seen myself via telescope, along with other southern stars) isn't real
The last video makes the incorrect assumption that Polaris is a fixed point in the sky that never moves
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
it's not incorrect if the earth is not moving. you still think it's moving. you obviously aren't looking objectively at the information. You are biased toward your own point of view. Unable to be a judge on the situation.
n/a ZapRapTap 2017-06-22
Cool.
See how weight changes with latitude, or a demonstration of the Eötvös Effect in aircraft.
If you believe that these experiments are wrong, tell me why. As well as why they fit with what we would expect from a rotating Earth.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
the magnetic fields all around us. those still exist.
n/a ZapRapTap 2017-06-22
Go ahead and tell why magnetism is responsible for the effects demonstrated. Why do the experiments match with what we should expect from a rotating Earth? Models are judged by their predictive power.
Do you also believe density as a replacement for gravity? If so:
How does density explain those effects? Why do objects of different densities fall at the same rate in a vacuum?
n/a TheCrawlerFL 2017-06-22
You're right, it's mainly incorrect because Polaris' location changes regardless of what you think the world looks like. Regardless of whether you think the Earth is round or flat, Polaris is not a constant point in the sky. Its position does vary. That fact just so happens to support the round Earth.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
it's the same question you can say the star is moving or are we moving.. it's a debate. I think we are having it now.
n/a jmflna 2017-06-22
Is that the only way you researched flat earth, is by youtube videos?
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
is that supposed to be some sort of bad thing? which is what people always imply. What does it matter where the videos came from. It's a way of sharing information. This knowledge isn't going to be whispered into my ear by a fairy. How else do people share info. I've talked with people read books from the 1800's on flat earth Zetetic Astronomy: Earth not a Globe.
n/a TheCrawlerFL 2017-06-22
The problem with this is that you're willing to completely disregard proven science and math in favor of youtube videos and books from the 1800s
be skeptical, don't be ignorant
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
why wouldn't I be willing to disregard science? I saw how school didn't really get anyone ready for the real world. up until college so that is 12 + years of garbage could have been taught in 2 years. I'm not disregarding all science.. I still think the periodic table is accurate. and all of chemistry. Really just questioning the space stuff
n/a jmflna 2017-06-22
I don't use youtube videos because the vast majority of the videos are just some monotone kid with no cited sources.
Do the videos you watch link to any verifiable cited sources? I'll read any evidence you provide but have no patience for a video.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
just listen to what people say not how they say it.. who cares if they speak monotone if they say something real. and no thats is not what the videos are like
n/a bariParker 2017-06-22
since the foundation of the Royal Society, certainly
n/a bariParker 2017-06-22
erato merely put two sticks in the ground
you could do the say and claim the earth is a triangle if you wanted to
n/a TheCrawlerFL 2017-06-22
But you couldn't at all because the math doesn't support that it's a triangle, it supports that it's round
You clearly don't understand the depth of the experiment my friend
n/a bariParker 2017-06-22
the maths works out the same if the sun was smaller and closer friend
like it appears to be
n/a TheCrawlerFL 2017-06-22
If it was smaller, and closer, and sunrises/sunsets/moonrises/moonsets are because of perspective (moving further away = smaller), why do supermoons happen?
n/a ZapRapTap 2017-06-22
Funny how you guys claim this, yet you you never bother showing the mathematics to back it up.
The experiment would only work on 2 measurements. Add a third one, and you'll see why it's wrong. Do you believe that it is possible for the Sun to be at multiple places at the same tim?
n/a bariParker 2017-06-22
whats funny is people claim the ancient world thought the earth to be a fast moving globe (which they didnt)
cause one greek guy allegedly stuck two sticks in the ground once
n/a ZapRapTap 2017-06-22
Cool. Incredulity.
In what way is geometry part of the conspiracy? Go ahead and tell me.
What's hilarious are guys like you who make assertions with nothing to back it up.
n/a downisupp 2017-06-22
no the burden of evidence is in your corner, you must provide us whit evidence thatthe earth is flat.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
well we can't see the curve. unless you trust freemasons. which i dont. If I jump in the air the earth doesn't move out from underneath me.
and the earth hasn't been destroyed yet. god said he wouldn't destroy the earth and it's hasn't been destroyed yet.
n/a downisupp 2017-06-22
okey.. where do the lord say he is going to destroy the world?
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
after the flood of noah god said the earth would not be destroyed again or something to that effect. nothing will wipe out the population.
n/a downisupp 2017-06-22
well the first flood dident really wipe us out dident it? so why should the second flood do that?
n/a Norotom5 2017-06-22
If the Earth isn't a spinning ball, then there is no viable explanation for Foucault Pendulums. Honestly, I have a really hard time taking Flat Earthers seriously.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
foucault pendulums all use magnets in practice.. look it up
n/a Norotom5 2017-06-22
no... no.... no... wrong so very wrong. I could literally make pendulum bob out of concrete and it would behave identically to a bob made out of a ferromagnetic material.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
do it then. make a video. I'd love to see it.
n/a InfectedBananas 2017-06-22
Yes, it has, but I bet no matter what proof people would give you, you wouldn't listen.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
I consider all the proofs and do my research believe me a few times I've been scared I was wrong about the flat earth.. I dont think i am wrong honestly been looking into it for a few years now. I probably know more about the globe theory than you
n/a InfectedBananas 2017-06-22
Do this, go to the beach with a nice telescope, and tell me why you can't see Mount Everest.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
because air is a thing and so is dust and our eyes are just like cameras each camera has a specific range it function in just like our eyes do. how hard is that to understand?
n/a InfectedBananas 2017-06-22
Ok, let's go your route.
The earth is flat, please go to the edge and photograph it.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
ok.. cool good idea... do you know about Antarctica? a treaty was signed by countries who hate each other agreeing not to build or mine anything there. Also to kill anyone who is trying to explore there. so yea there is that
n/a InfectedBananas 2017-06-22
Sure, had no idea Argentina, Australia, Chile, France, New Zealand, Norway and the United Kingdom, all hated each other.
Sure.
Can you cite the kill part for me?
I had no idea I was talking to a chicken who doesn't want to prove the shit he's saying.
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
thats 7 of the 20 countries that signed it.. I'm not your chicken to go google things... google it yourself.
n/a InfectedBananas 2017-06-22
Ah, the classic "google it yourself" after making a wild claim instead of just proving it.
Maybe your should just not lie.
n/a Balthanos 2017-06-22
I'm starting to wonder if there are Vatican shills. Maybe they want us all to go back to the dark ages.
n/a bariParker 2017-06-22
the vatican are the ones the promote the false moving earth, globe earth theory
they are run by the soceity of jesus whom are an evil organisation
no coincidence that the vatican has been very big on astronomy (and aliens) for 700 off years
n/a bariParker 2017-06-22
it wasnt
n/a Step2TheJep 2017-06-22
I agree with you that the earth is not moving. This does not mean the earth is flat. Also, what does the word 'proof' mean to you? We can infer that the earth is round from the celestial patterns and from flights. Sometimes it seems like Flat Earth is just controlled opposition to geocentrism.
n/a bariParker 2017-06-22
so we live on a globe, thats not moving?
n/a Step2TheJep 2017-06-22
We live on earth. We don't live on a globe or a flat plane, we live on earth. Saying we live on a globe or we live on a plane is like saying we live on a map.
n/a downisupp 2017-06-22
hahah dude you guys are the once living in delusion
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
the round earthers right?
n/a AllThat5634 2017-06-22
Yes, recent history is manipulated, but if you ignore ancient history.. You just need to educate yourself a bit more. Dive deeper into the endless hole and you will find out great things! Sciensism and Flat Earth are just a buffer stage show to distract you from going deeper
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
i'm pretty deep , I'm not ignoring ancient history. the ancients all thought the earth was flat
n/a jmflna 2017-06-22
Not true. Eratosthenes (276-194 B.C.) discovered the Earth was round. That would be in the ancient times you would be referring to.
Ancient people knew that the Earth was round 2000 years before Columbus
n/a bariParker 2017-06-22
that is one guy in 10,000 years ...
he was wrong too btw, by a significant percentage
n/a AllThat5634 2017-06-22
Okay, maybe I was a bit confusing. I see that every flat earther doesn't believe in space. So Dogons (deeply sorry if I didn't get it right) knew about sirius B and that in my book would be a useless "fake news" information for advanced ancient cultures, as they have been in some point very advanced to gain such knowledge (please ancient alien theory go away, lol) The great pyramid can be used to calculate the dimensions of the globe earth. I don't give any weight to any Roman/Greece or european bs, tbh.
n/a bariParker 2017-06-22
many of the ancient cultures, knew a lot about space. Even with their flat earth world views.
you were not confusing, you were wrong
n/a AllThat5634 2017-06-22
Is there any reference in ancient Asian or Indian texts?
n/a bariParker 2017-06-22
if you study ancient cultures you'll find the asians and indians had FE viewpoints
n/a AllThat5634 2017-06-22
Are those original texts or are those "preserved" by the european monks? The work that was done by them destroyed alot of knowledge.. I'm not trying to be a jackass, but... Yeah.
n/a bariParker 2017-06-22
nope, the dark ages were only a European thing
other parts of the world flourished hence we still have documentation
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
you couldn't discover something that isn't true. it's fake news 2000 years ago
n/a bariParker 2017-06-22
everyone in the ancient world (bar the greeks) thought the world flat and motionless
n/a _2pac_ 2017-06-22
buoyancy is not just liquids as many people think. it's gases as well. Gases such as the ones with breath. you know those ones?