but understand that folks who refuse to go along with the gay agenda being pushed can cite religious discrimination as justification for refusal to accept the hedonistic lifestyle choice.
The people who yell at people for not going along with the "gay agenda" are idiots themselves. They are just as "closed minded" as the people they are persecuting. For instance the cake store who wouldn't sell cakes to gay couples. Just go somewhere else, who cares? Write a review on yelp if you're so angry this is a capitalistic society. The cake place that sells more cakes will prosper while the one who sells less won't, or they can both sell cakes who cares it's their store. There are tons of gay people who also feel that way. We're just told by the media who try to divide us that it is the way you feel when it's not when you start talking to individuals one on one were just being divided by the MSM who sensationalise stories to where the outcome is people are taken to court because they didn't want to bake a cake.
For instance the cake store who wouldn't sell cakes to gay couples. Just go somewhere else, who cares?
How big does a group have to be to make it stop being OK for a place of public accommodation to discriminate against them? Would you say it was a "who cares" event if a bakery had a sign that said "Due to our religious faith we refuse to serve Black people"?
I would. I'd take that a step further and not even blame it on my religious beliefs. How about I'm just an inept businessman and refuse to serve black people? Maybe I don't like gingers and refuse to serve people with red hair? You probably won't care much about that one (unless you're a ginger) because they're not on "the list" (created by the Left) of put-upon beleaguered groups that need special protection. Let consumers decide the fate of the "no-blacks" bakery - not the government. Minority "communities" are a product of the Left... Created, maintained and promoted non-stop by Leftist to divide one American against another.
Let consumers decide the fate of the "no-blacks" bakery - not the government.
So you're OK with us going back to this. Or maybe even this.
Minority "communities" are a product of the Left... Created, maintained and promoted non-stop by Leftist to divide one American against another.
Wow, does it really make your life suck that badly to have someone you don't care about demand equal treatment under law?
These communities always existed. You simply didn't notice them because a "conspiracy" of people who think like you do kept smashing them down whenever they got in your way.
Thats not whats happening. As long as you continue playing dumb to reality any true understanding of your opposition will continue to allude you. Of course, who am I kidding? You're only here for the dopamine kick from upboats and internet points.
I mean, think about it: do you really want some anti-gay person making a cake for your wedding day!?
Honestly, I have no interest in forcing people to do business with me or socialize with me if they would rather not. The only exception here should be businesses that have virtual monopolies for critical products or services (e.g. pharmacies, large medical clinics that dominate a geographical region).
Exactly. If such a small percentage of the population is transgender, why the big focus on it in the media? It's not like people are gravitating to it--the Caitlyn Jenner show flopped, "Transparent" has awards but low rating, that show about the trans teen and her doll don't get watch and don't sell.
There's a reason you don't see movies starring trans characters--no Hollywood studio will finance it because they know it will bomb. On TV, they can force it down your eyeballs and hope it takes.
This is about Baphomet, fucking with the consciousness of the citizenry, leading as many souls astray as possible.
Being transgender is a mental disorder for which we should have empathy and pity. Mockery and violence are wrong. But glorification or normalization are also wrong.
The issue is that people who are not / should not be transgender are being subtly coerced into believing that they are transgender. For example, socially awkward teenagers, especially those who would, in a different generation, grow up to be an ordinary, garden-variety homosexual, are now being encouraged to go down a path of extreme medical regimens and life-altering, mutilating surgeries.
Such a small 'minority' atm but it is increasing. If it is feminisation of males that is causing it then it will totally fuck up the population since the number is going to get greater and greater until a majority of guys are 'feminised' and there is less children.
I see so you think that the .01% of the population that sees themselves as transgendered will increase to the majority of 99.99% of the population and humanity will cease to exist because women think they are men and vice versa?
.01% of the population? Do you like making up figures? lol There is no way to tell what the percentage is, especially since there is so many getting turned away from being able to transition.
Doesn't need to he as high as 99.99% for it to fuck up the population. Even less than 50% would have a massive effect on it.
Are you trans? You seem to be defending this conspiracy / objective quite a bit here. Feminisation of males as population control is fucked up and no one should be defending this shit.
You speak of feminization of males what does that mean exactly? Gender reassignment surgery? Defense or not I'm just wondering about people's thoughts on this matter. So you think in the further 50% of the worlds population will be men who believe they are women and vice versa? Also if 10% of the populace is gay then Trans would have to be waaaaaaay lower then that I'll give it a 2%.
Feminisation of males is what it says it is. Males being less masculine and more feminine, which can be done through hormones (more so when it's unintentional since 'the pill' puts estrogen into the water supply) and even society helps with feminisation of males. Fake tan, make up, mirror watching. Female traits.
I didn't say 'I think' the world will turn 50%', I said even if it did go as low as that it would still have a major effect on the population. All I'm saying is the higher the number the worse it is for the human race, same with homosexuality.
Again, where the fuck did you get the figure 10% of males are gay? There is no way to determine that shit. So you are saying there is about 3.5 million gay guys in the world?
Here is an article that goes into percentages of homosexuality in the US and they give past estimates as well. It's WaPo I know but I just googled real quick.
So what I'm getting here is not that actual gender reassignment surgery but that gender roles are put in place for procreation of a species and if you mess with gender roles that also messes with men wanting to have sex with women and in that it slows down the production of the human species becaus men are wearing make up and fake tan and looking at themselves in the mirror and that's all that women should be doing. Also that men will stop wanting to have sex with women because they have more estrogen in their body? Do you know how hormones work and how attraction works for sexual intercourse. Testosterone and estrogen do not determine if you want to have sex with men or women. If this were true then all straight female body builders who took large amounts of testosterone to change facial and body structure are now gay, which just is not the case. The reason transgendered people use hormone replacement is to lose or gain breast or to soften or tone muscle and skin.
I would be willing to bet that women that use testosterone will be more prone to either turning gay or wanting to change sex.
Why are you defending the feminisation of males? It's such a strange thing to say 'hey this is a good thing.' If there is an abundance of hormones in water and also subliminal messaging is being put out in order to slow to the birth rate, I would say that is very worrying. It is biological and mental warfare, and you think that shits ok...
I'm not defending anything you're just being defensive of your beliefs and that's ok man that's how you feel I'm just trying to understand why you believe in what you do there is no right or wrong. We both live in our own truth.
I am being defensive of people being 'drugged' with either extra hormones or hormones from the opposite sex aswell as subliminal messaging. It is wrong to play with people's minds and bodies.
I just really don't think you understand how hormones work. I think you should read up on what testosterone and estrogen do and the reason your body produces one or the other. Because estrogen does not make you use spray tan and look in a mirror. That's all I'm saying here. I understand where you're coming from but a lot of your conclusions also come from a lack of medical knowledge when it comes to hormones in the body and their effect on it.
Did I say estrogen does? Re-Read my message. I said subliminal messaging does, not estrogen. Estrogen will make people more hormonal. Same as testosterone make people more aggressive.
"Feminisation of males is what it says it is. Males being less masculine and more feminine, which can be done through hormones (more so when it's unintentional since 'the pill' puts estrogen into the water supply) and even society helps with feminisation of males. Fake tan, make up, mirror watching. Female traits."
I see so here you're saying that the hormones will cause men to grow breast and have softer features while. Then society makes them wear fake tan and look in the mirror. Then they turn gay? Is that from the estrogen or looking in the mirror that turns them gay? Even if a transgendered person does not cut off their penis they are still straight are they not? They will still use their penis to impregnate a women. So where in this does the population stop. Cause again giving someone too much testosterone or estrogen doesn't turn people gay it doesn't work like that. If that were true then all gay body builders who use large huge amounts of testosterone would be straight after.
Subliminal messaging is very powerful and can be used to do a whole multitude of things. I really wouldn't be surprised if it can be used to alter what someone is attracted to. A bit like me I suppose, I have a couple of fetishes which was created through society, so I do know it is possible...
You keep putting words in my mouth so I am really starting to wonder about you... If someone is trans, it doesn't mean they are gay but it would certainly be harder to find a healthy relationship to be in, where a woman would accept a trans (she would need to be gay.) Not all body builders use testosterone suppliments. What I am trying to say (but it seems to get lost) is that it is a combination of mutiple things added together that would help to screw up the brain and make people either have fetishes, be gay or trans.
Nah man I'm going to apologize I re read out conversation. I get that you're saying that sexuality is on a spectrum of gay to straight like the Kinsey scale and in that because a majority of people are sexually fluid with who they are attracted to they can be influenced into what turns them on sexually. But you can also see that national or ethnic culture does that already the idea of the ideal female or male body varies country to country there are infographs you can look at to see this. I understand now where you are coming from I get it.
Are you trans? You seem to be defending this conspiracy / objective quite a bit here. Feminisation of males as population control is fucked up and no one should be defending this shit.
Why are you so aggressive to everyone who disagrees with you? Your theory seems to not be based on much evidence but you cling to it as if it's some literal truth
I asked a question because I was curious if it affected the person I was speaking to because I wasn't wanting to offend. What's it to do with you? The person that thinks the British political system is democratic enough and that hormones in water is ok because we need to control population...
Again. Since you don't seem to read what I say, I don't think Britain is particularly democratic. I think Britain should have a more proportional system.
Never said it was ok. That is a lie. I said it wasn't in high enough concentrations and there wasn't any evidence.
I have said this so many times I despair for you if you don't understand what I believe
You have a serious issue with lying about my views.
It really doesnt. All it takes is a woman & veil of sperm.
I think at current % of trans per population we have nothing to fear.. but i can see an agenda to push it and the numbers have definitely increased over the last 10 years. However i think that increase is largely due to the availability of information and the slight drop in stigma levels.
There is no obsession. Trannies want to think they are persecuted. They've learned from the Jews, and stupid Negroes.... You a tranny? You have a mental illness. I don't want you in my society.. Plain and simple//
I do not have children. But sure I'd let them play with my dog and cat. I definitely would keep them away from you though as I sense a large amount of anger from you. But again I'm assuming you're being sarcastic in this conversation.
So.. Would you let your kids play with a guy who thought he was a child girl? Answer the damn question.. You're just being a hypocrite. Would you allow that?
Again in your sarcasm I'm here you are referring to the man who really does believe he is a child girl I saw that on 60 minutes was it? That man is obviously "mentally ill" he has some things he needs to work out and the family he was with are just enablers and refused to ge to the causation of his problem.
If you think there aren't already child molesters in the bathroom with your children right now at this present moment who aren't "cross dressing" women and men, I don't know what world you're living in. So yes I would let my children go in these bathrooms as it is no different from them going in them now with the child molesters who aren't cross dressing.
Lol. I mean what would be the difference between them and someone else when in you're logic anyone other than yourself is a child molester. So yes I would let my kids be "watched" by a transsexual. Ahhhhh I said it! The horror of it all!
Link to me these stats of child molesting transgendered baby sitters. And if I do have a dildo your dad left it here he kept telling me he needed to hide it here cause you're mom kept asking questions.
Let me try to explain myself one more time and I will now out.
I failed to make the point earlier...
From a biblical (religious standpoint) this is the ultimate manifestation of the battle between good and evil.
TPTB (evil) are sending a message that in order to attain your optimum form you must alter your body with surgeries and hormones as someone else put it.
They make this option attractive by using celebrities to push the idea but ultimately they want to alter Gid's creation.
Why? Because the satanic elites hate us and they want us to go to hell.
The devil and his minions know that at the end of days they will be cast into the lake of fire and they figure the more of us they're are the less the will burn so they want to deceive us into sinning.
One version I have heard of the endgame (as I understand) is to alter the human genome.
Currently geneticists are treating aging as a "disease."
They are trying to change our genetic code so that we will no longer be God's creation and instead be an abomination.
At which l point we may not be eligible for God's eternal gift of Heaven because we are no longer human.
Okay. I'll stop
Ok so you're idea is based on religion. I get that. But what if people who feel they are transgendered aren't living in your truth of religion. If you feel they themselves are going to hell is that keeping you from heaven? I guess my question here is how do they effect you and you're quest to reach heaven?
Well, I think everyones relationship with God is exclusively between them and God and if someone chooses to live their life as trans I will not judge them at all.
But i believes the satanists that control our media worship androgyny and they intentionally deceive us and confuse our gender roles and alter natures order.
I think you can make basically the same argument without religion. This guy talks about how the transgender phenomenon is linked to transhumanism. (The author is kind of a prick, and not very nice to the transgender folks who have popped in to comment on his articles, but I still agree with the central thesis of his argument.)
Reincarnation. Canaanites used to sacrifice their children to the fire bull. The head of "moloch", whom the sacrifice was made (thrown into the fire), looks a lot like a woman's reproductive system.
That fire is reincarnation. Hell is this existence (the one without God). I think this agenda is so big because there is no more walking through the fire. We're in the last age. So we better get good with the big guy.
I agree with several points I here but not as extreme as some of them. I think one of the major issues is that the trans and to a lesser extent the lgbtq community is such a small percentage of the population but they are one if the loudest voices.
Every other week theres some new right that is wanted some new word that can't be used etc. Like you said the trans community is .01% and yet they ate making demands that every business in the US needs to have dedicated trans restrooms or pay for their procedures.
I'm not against trans or the lgbtq I just think that they, and a few other groups, have too much power for such a small portion of the population.
I believe that there is a stronger agenda as well, when you hear about the stories of the parents who are telling their young children that they are trans just because their daughter wants to play army or their son likes Barbie.
I've read one story where they even c introduced their child as the opposite gender whenever they meet people. I think that a child shouldn't have anything like that decided for them and I think they should need to wait till they are at least 18 to make any life alerting decisions around procedures.
It's okay to be confused about sexuality, it's okay to truly be trans (regardless of personal religious beliefs), it's not okay to force children who don't know what the hell is going on into a life path they might never have wanted
You can take anything you don't like or understand that is "other" to what you know and get and frame it as a grand conspiracy being perpetrated in order to cause harm. If you just go around calling trans people freaks who shouldn't exist, you're just gonna look like a bigoted asshole. Better to turn it into some type of devious scheme being perpetrated against the decent, "normal" people. I imagine those who promote transgenderism as an evil conspiracy probably just don't understand/hate transgenderism as a concept.
This has been done in response to essentially every social movement, by the way. Trans people having rights like everyone else isn't really a social movement so much as a campaign for acceptance, part of the goal maybe being less trans people will be murdered or ostracized or reduced to simply being "mentally ill." A similar thing happened when being openly gay was across-the-board illegal and conversion therapy, always religious-based, was a thing.
Yes see I get this "cultural norms" so many people don't understand what those two words mean together and what is implies as a whole for our understanding of "Family" in the American culture.
"Family" should not be in quotations. It's a real thing that everyone who is born has, regardless of whether they are good family or not.
Babies are born by women. Men inseminate women in order to make babies. This is the difference in genders. Women have to spend their lives caring for the babies, regardless of whether or not she is supported. I don't care what people want to do in their own lives, but i do believe the trans/pseudo-fem movement is a direct attack on the classic Sacred Feminine and Masculine traits that create good family units.
If you think about it, the feminist movement itself is doublespeak, or newspeak. There is nothing "feminine" about the movement at all. It's not asking for women to be treated equally when they are in the home, caring for their children and husband. It's asking for women who act like men to be treated equally as men. The benefit for the government and corporatocracy is 1) get to lower wages/more labor competition within the workplace 2) govt gets to collect double payroll taxes with 2 workers instead of 1 3) with both parents busy at work the state gets to raise your child in endless daycare and public schooling - preparing them to replace their parents like a cog in the corporate workplace once they are used up. Win win win.
I'm a gay guy and I strongly believe that gay men and lesbians should be allowed sexual, romantic fulfillment (with one person in a committed monogamous relationship). However, we are really a small minority. Most people are heterosexual, and should be encouraged to form healthy families where children grow up with the proper emotional support from both parents.
All of the cultural messaging in the last 30-40 years has been the opposite of this, incentivizing broken families and emotionally traumatized children.
So my inclination is to agree with people who are concerned about the breakup of the nuclear family, but I wish they'd get off their high horse about gay people. We are not the problem.
I don't think majority of people give a flying toot what other people do in their own home. Except for the minority of high-horse religious folks who feel it's their duty to warn everyone about hell, I think most generally religious people would agree. I think that just as someone else here said the media is blowing the gay/trans perspective out of proportion, I think they may also be blowing the religious/anti-gay perspective out of proportion as well. Divide and conquer, eh?
My in-laws are devout Christians, and I love them dearly. They're fine with me, and appreciate that I make their son happy. I think they may have an issue around same-sex marriage in the abstract, so we're on the down-low about the fact that we're legally married, but other than that everything works pretty smoothly. (I'm not crazy about the idea of same-sex "marriage", as I think the organizing principle around marriage in the religious sense should be preparation of the next generation, but the bundle of tax, property and inheritance rights that comes with civil marriage in the US should be available to all couples, and right now "marriage" is the only way to secure them.)
Also, if you want to watch some non-religious videos on the sacred feminine and sacred masculine, what they are and how they are being attacked by western culture - check out Marc passio's videos on YouTube. They are an absolute treasure trove of occult information an how our ignorance of it is being used against us. Hope you and others check it out
Transgender is the new gay rights. Gay rights was the new Civil rights. The idea is to use a social issue that people get more passionate about to entice people to a party while they get robbed blind in taxes.
Just fear mongering with lol no shit media stirring the pot.
So you have conspiracy theorist projecting their insecurities on to them through occult means
You have the religious being backwards as always
Then you have the well I don't hate em, but I have no concept of how times change. These are the same people given slavery still being popular probably would have a slave, but it'll defend slavery.
The rates of people identifying as transgender is increasing exponentially. Likely due to xenoestrogens increasing in the environment. The conspiracy is that this being covered up while people are being distracted by the CO2 debate instead.
The people who yell at people for not going along with the "gay agenda" are idiots themselves. They are just as "closed minded" as the people they are persecuting. For instance the cake store who wouldn't sell cakes to gay couples. Just go somewhere else, who cares? Write a review on yelp if you're so angry this is a capitalistic society. The cake place that sells more cakes will prosper while the one who sells less won't, or they can both sell cakes who cares it's their store. There are tons of gay people who also feel that way. We're just told by the media who try to divide us that it is the way you feel when it's not when you start talking to individuals one on one were just being divided by the MSM who sensationalise stories to where the outcome is people are taken to court because they didn't want to bake a cake.
I just really don't think you understand how hormones work. I think you should read up on what testosterone and estrogen do and the reason your body produces one or the other. Because estrogen does not make you use spray tan and look in a mirror. That's all I'm saying here. I understand where you're coming from but a lot of your conclusions also come from a lack of medical knowledge when it comes to hormones in the body and their effect on it.
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n/a swansong19 2017-06-26
The real question is why is the MSM, including magazines, newspapers, radio, television news, etc, etc… talking about it every day
n/a GoddessWins 2017-06-26
It creates political division because it threatens religious beliefs and this is a nation with a large number of serious believers.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
Thank you.
n/a TrowwayFiggenstein 2017-06-26
but understand that folks who refuse to go along with the gay agenda being pushed can cite religious discrimination as justification for refusal to accept the hedonistic lifestyle choice.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
The people who yell at people for not going along with the "gay agenda" are idiots themselves. They are just as "closed minded" as the people they are persecuting. For instance the cake store who wouldn't sell cakes to gay couples. Just go somewhere else, who cares? Write a review on yelp if you're so angry this is a capitalistic society. The cake place that sells more cakes will prosper while the one who sells less won't, or they can both sell cakes who cares it's their store. There are tons of gay people who also feel that way. We're just told by the media who try to divide us that it is the way you feel when it's not when you start talking to individuals one on one were just being divided by the MSM who sensationalise stories to where the outcome is people are taken to court because they didn't want to bake a cake.
n/a firelock_ny 2017-06-26
How big does a group have to be to make it stop being OK for a place of public accommodation to discriminate against them? Would you say it was a "who cares" event if a bakery had a sign that said "Due to our religious faith we refuse to serve Black people"?
n/a scoobydoo4you 2017-06-26
I would. I'd take that a step further and not even blame it on my religious beliefs. How about I'm just an inept businessman and refuse to serve black people? Maybe I don't like gingers and refuse to serve people with red hair? You probably won't care much about that one (unless you're a ginger) because they're not on "the list" (created by the Left) of put-upon beleaguered groups that need special protection. Let consumers decide the fate of the "no-blacks" bakery - not the government. Minority "communities" are a product of the Left... Created, maintained and promoted non-stop by Leftist to divide one American against another.
n/a firelock_ny 2017-06-26
So you're OK with us going back to this. Or maybe even this.
Wow, does it really make your life suck that badly to have someone you don't care about demand equal treatment under law?
These communities always existed. You simply didn't notice them because a "conspiracy" of people who think like you do kept smashing them down whenever they got in your way.
n/a Rd2See-Leusi 2017-06-26
Thats not whats happening. As long as you continue playing dumb to reality any true understanding of your opposition will continue to allude you. Of course, who am I kidding? You're only here for the dopamine kick from upboats and internet points.
n/a firelock_ny 2017-06-26
What special privileges do you believe are being demanded?
There's an old saw about equality feeling like oppression when you're used to privilege.
n/a OsoFeo 2017-06-26
Yeah, I agree, the cake thing was stupid.
I mean, think about it: do you really want some anti-gay person making a cake for your wedding day!?
Honestly, I have no interest in forcing people to do business with me or socialize with me if they would rather not. The only exception here should be businesses that have virtual monopolies for critical products or services (e.g. pharmacies, large medical clinics that dominate a geographical region).
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-06-26
Are the burritos as good as the trannies in your country?
n/a lolmonsterlol 2017-06-26
Exactly this!
n/a IanPhlegming 2017-06-26
Exactly. If such a small percentage of the population is transgender, why the big focus on it in the media? It's not like people are gravitating to it--the Caitlyn Jenner show flopped, "Transparent" has awards but low rating, that show about the trans teen and her doll don't get watch and don't sell.
There's a reason you don't see movies starring trans characters--no Hollywood studio will finance it because they know it will bomb. On TV, they can force it down your eyeballs and hope it takes.
This is about Baphomet, fucking with the consciousness of the citizenry, leading as many souls astray as possible.
Being transgender is a mental disorder for which we should have empathy and pity. Mockery and violence are wrong. But glorification or normalization are also wrong.
n/a OsoFeo 2017-06-26
The issue is that people who are not / should not be transgender are being subtly coerced into believing that they are transgender. For example, socially awkward teenagers, especially those who would, in a different generation, grow up to be an ordinary, garden-variety homosexual, are now being encouraged to go down a path of extreme medical regimens and life-altering, mutilating surgeries.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
Ok yes correct but that's the medical industry in general that's how they make their money to convince people they need drugs. SSRI, Adderrall, etc.
n/a OsoFeo 2017-06-26
It's all part of the same octopus.
n/a WeAreTheSheeple 2017-06-26
Feminisation of males. Quite a big worry since it would decimate the human population.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
But again it's such a small minority of people why do you think it has such an effect as to "decimate the human population"?
n/a WeAreTheSheeple 2017-06-26
Such a small 'minority' atm but it is increasing. If it is feminisation of males that is causing it then it will totally fuck up the population since the number is going to get greater and greater until a majority of guys are 'feminised' and there is less children.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
I see so you think that the .01% of the population that sees themselves as transgendered will increase to the majority of 99.99% of the population and humanity will cease to exist because women think they are men and vice versa?
n/a WeAreTheSheeple 2017-06-26
.01% of the population? Do you like making up figures? lol There is no way to tell what the percentage is, especially since there is so many getting turned away from being able to transition.
Doesn't need to he as high as 99.99% for it to fuck up the population. Even less than 50% would have a massive effect on it.
Are you trans? You seem to be defending this conspiracy / objective quite a bit here. Feminisation of males as population control is fucked up and no one should be defending this shit.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
You speak of feminization of males what does that mean exactly? Gender reassignment surgery? Defense or not I'm just wondering about people's thoughts on this matter. So you think in the further 50% of the worlds population will be men who believe they are women and vice versa? Also if 10% of the populace is gay then Trans would have to be waaaaaaay lower then that I'll give it a 2%.
n/a WeAreTheSheeple 2017-06-26
Feminisation of males is what it says it is. Males being less masculine and more feminine, which can be done through hormones (more so when it's unintentional since 'the pill' puts estrogen into the water supply) and even society helps with feminisation of males. Fake tan, make up, mirror watching. Female traits.
I didn't say 'I think' the world will turn 50%', I said even if it did go as low as that it would still have a major effect on the population. All I'm saying is the higher the number the worse it is for the human race, same with homosexuality.
Again, where the fuck did you get the figure 10% of males are gay? There is no way to determine that shit. So you are saying there is about 3.5 million gay guys in the world?
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/07/15/what-percentage-of-the-u-s-population-is-gay-lesbian-or-bisexual/?utm_term=.6ac4ef6d638a
Here is an article that goes into percentages of homosexuality in the US and they give past estimates as well. It's WaPo I know but I just googled real quick.
So what I'm getting here is not that actual gender reassignment surgery but that gender roles are put in place for procreation of a species and if you mess with gender roles that also messes with men wanting to have sex with women and in that it slows down the production of the human species becaus men are wearing make up and fake tan and looking at themselves in the mirror and that's all that women should be doing. Also that men will stop wanting to have sex with women because they have more estrogen in their body? Do you know how hormones work and how attraction works for sexual intercourse. Testosterone and estrogen do not determine if you want to have sex with men or women. If this were true then all straight female body builders who took large amounts of testosterone to change facial and body structure are now gay, which just is not the case. The reason transgendered people use hormone replacement is to lose or gain breast or to soften or tone muscle and skin.
n/a WeAreTheSheeple 2017-06-26
I would be willing to bet that women that use testosterone will be more prone to either turning gay or wanting to change sex.
Why are you defending the feminisation of males? It's such a strange thing to say 'hey this is a good thing.' If there is an abundance of hormones in water and also subliminal messaging is being put out in order to slow to the birth rate, I would say that is very worrying. It is biological and mental warfare, and you think that shits ok...
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
I'm not defending anything you're just being defensive of your beliefs and that's ok man that's how you feel I'm just trying to understand why you believe in what you do there is no right or wrong. We both live in our own truth.
n/a WeAreTheSheeple 2017-06-26
I am being defensive of people being 'drugged' with either extra hormones or hormones from the opposite sex aswell as subliminal messaging. It is wrong to play with people's minds and bodies.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
I just really don't think you understand how hormones work. I think you should read up on what testosterone and estrogen do and the reason your body produces one or the other. Because estrogen does not make you use spray tan and look in a mirror. That's all I'm saying here. I understand where you're coming from but a lot of your conclusions also come from a lack of medical knowledge when it comes to hormones in the body and their effect on it.
n/a WeAreTheSheeple 2017-06-26
Did I say estrogen does? Re-Read my message. I said subliminal messaging does, not estrogen. Estrogen will make people more hormonal. Same as testosterone make people more aggressive.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
"Feminisation of males is what it says it is. Males being less masculine and more feminine, which can be done through hormones (more so when it's unintentional since 'the pill' puts estrogen into the water supply) and even society helps with feminisation of males. Fake tan, make up, mirror watching. Female traits."
I see so here you're saying that the hormones will cause men to grow breast and have softer features while. Then society makes them wear fake tan and look in the mirror. Then they turn gay? Is that from the estrogen or looking in the mirror that turns them gay? Even if a transgendered person does not cut off their penis they are still straight are they not? They will still use their penis to impregnate a women. So where in this does the population stop. Cause again giving someone too much testosterone or estrogen doesn't turn people gay it doesn't work like that. If that were true then all gay body builders who use large huge amounts of testosterone would be straight after.
n/a WeAreTheSheeple 2017-06-26
Subliminal messaging is very powerful and can be used to do a whole multitude of things. I really wouldn't be surprised if it can be used to alter what someone is attracted to. A bit like me I suppose, I have a couple of fetishes which was created through society, so I do know it is possible...
You keep putting words in my mouth so I am really starting to wonder about you... If someone is trans, it doesn't mean they are gay but it would certainly be harder to find a healthy relationship to be in, where a woman would accept a trans (she would need to be gay.) Not all body builders use testosterone suppliments. What I am trying to say (but it seems to get lost) is that it is a combination of mutiple things added together that would help to screw up the brain and make people either have fetishes, be gay or trans.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
Nah man I'm going to apologize I re read out conversation. I get that you're saying that sexuality is on a spectrum of gay to straight like the Kinsey scale and in that because a majority of people are sexually fluid with who they are attracted to they can be influenced into what turns them on sexually. But you can also see that national or ethnic culture does that already the idea of the ideal female or male body varies country to country there are infographs you can look at to see this. I understand now where you are coming from I get it.
n/a TrowwayFiggenstein 2017-06-26
not to that extreme. just more of a pussification of males.
n/a Terex80 2017-06-26
Why are you so aggressive to everyone who disagrees with you? Your theory seems to not be based on much evidence but you cling to it as if it's some literal truth
n/a WeAreTheSheeple 2017-06-26
I asked a question because I was curious if it affected the person I was speaking to because I wasn't wanting to offend. What's it to do with you? The person that thinks the British political system is democratic enough and that hormones in water is ok because we need to control population...
n/a Terex80 2017-06-26
Again. Since you don't seem to read what I say, I don't think Britain is particularly democratic. I think Britain should have a more proportional system.
Never said it was ok. That is a lie. I said it wasn't in high enough concentrations and there wasn't any evidence.
I have said this so many times I despair for you if you don't understand what I believe You have a serious issue with lying about my views.
n/a TrowwayFiggenstein 2017-06-26
postmodernism.
the pussification of America.
n/a InfectedBananas 2017-06-26
Females are the determining factor on birth rates, not males.
n/a WeAreTheSheeple 2017-06-26
If males turn to female and get their sexual parts 'cut off' it means there would be no sperm to impregnate a female.
n/a Mecanatron 2017-06-26
It really doesnt. All it takes is a woman & veil of sperm.
I think at current % of trans per population we have nothing to fear.. but i can see an agenda to push it and the numbers have definitely increased over the last 10 years. However i think that increase is largely due to the availability of information and the slight drop in stigma levels.
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-06-26
There is no obsession. Trannies want to think they are persecuted. They've learned from the Jews, and stupid Negroes.... You a tranny? You have a mental illness. I don't want you in my society.. Plain and simple//
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic so I'll just assume you are.
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-06-26
I'm being serious.. Who cares about trannies other than trannies?
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
Who cares about anyone other than themselves?
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-06-26
I don't care too much to live next to mentally ill individuals. Would you let your kid "play" with said individuals?
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
I do not have children. But sure I'd let them play with my dog and cat. I definitely would keep them away from you though as I sense a large amount of anger from you. But again I'm assuming you're being sarcastic in this conversation.
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-06-26
So.. Would you let your kids play with a guy who thought he was a child girl? Answer the damn question.. You're just being a hypocrite. Would you allow that?
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
Again in your sarcasm I'm here you are referring to the man who really does believe he is a child girl I saw that on 60 minutes was it? That man is obviously "mentally ill" he has some things he needs to work out and the family he was with are just enablers and refused to ge to the causation of his problem.
If you think there aren't already child molesters in the bathroom with your children right now at this present moment who aren't "cross dressing" women and men, I don't know what world you're living in. So yes I would let my children go in these bathrooms as it is no different from them going in them now with the child molesters who aren't cross dressing.
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-06-26
Would you let a tranny watch your kids. Answer the damn question.. Don't be a hypocrite... I will rip you a part for it..
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
Lol. I mean what would be the difference between them and someone else when in you're logic anyone other than yourself is a child molester. So yes I would let my kids be "watched" by a transsexual. Ahhhhh I said it! The horror of it all!
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-06-26
I feel sorry for your kids, because the stats are against you. Does pappy have a dildo? Yea....
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
Link to me these stats of child molesting transgendered baby sitters. And if I do have a dildo your dad left it here he kept telling me he needed to hide it here cause you're mom kept asking questions.
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-06-26
Simple.. Would you let a tranny baby sit your child.?
n/a ILoveRedVelvet 2017-06-26
Let me try to explain myself one more time and I will now out. I failed to make the point earlier...
From a biblical (religious standpoint) this is the ultimate manifestation of the battle between good and evil.
TPTB (evil) are sending a message that in order to attain your optimum form you must alter your body with surgeries and hormones as someone else put it.
They make this option attractive by using celebrities to push the idea but ultimately they want to alter Gid's creation. Why? Because the satanic elites hate us and they want us to go to hell. The devil and his minions know that at the end of days they will be cast into the lake of fire and they figure the more of us they're are the less the will burn so they want to deceive us into sinning.
One version I have heard of the endgame (as I understand) is to alter the human genome.
Currently geneticists are treating aging as a "disease." They are trying to change our genetic code so that we will no longer be God's creation and instead be an abomination. At which l point we may not be eligible for God's eternal gift of Heaven because we are no longer human. Okay. I'll stop
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
Ok so you're idea is based on religion. I get that. But what if people who feel they are transgendered aren't living in your truth of religion. If you feel they themselves are going to hell is that keeping you from heaven? I guess my question here is how do they effect you and you're quest to reach heaven?
n/a ILoveRedVelvet 2017-06-26
Well, I think everyones relationship with God is exclusively between them and God and if someone chooses to live their life as trans I will not judge them at all.
But i believes the satanists that control our media worship androgyny and they intentionally deceive us and confuse our gender roles and alter natures order.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
Ok I understand where you are coming from, I've heard others voice this as well. Thank you.
n/a OsoFeo 2017-06-26
I think you can make basically the same argument without religion. This guy talks about how the transgender phenomenon is linked to transhumanism. (The author is kind of a prick, and not very nice to the transgender folks who have popped in to comment on his articles, but I still agree with the central thesis of his argument.)
n/a TrowwayFiggenstein 2017-06-26
where is this "lake of fire" that thou speakest of?
n/a Iamamansass 2017-06-26
Reincarnation. Canaanites used to sacrifice their children to the fire bull. The head of "moloch", whom the sacrifice was made (thrown into the fire), looks a lot like a woman's reproductive system.
n/a TrowwayFiggenstein 2017-06-26
yikes.
n/a Iamamansass 2017-06-26
That fire is reincarnation. Hell is this existence (the one without God). I think this agenda is so big because there is no more walking through the fire. We're in the last age. So we better get good with the big guy.
n/a ghansell1434 2017-06-26
I agree with several points I here but not as extreme as some of them. I think one of the major issues is that the trans and to a lesser extent the lgbtq community is such a small percentage of the population but they are one if the loudest voices.
Every other week theres some new right that is wanted some new word that can't be used etc. Like you said the trans community is .01% and yet they ate making demands that every business in the US needs to have dedicated trans restrooms or pay for their procedures.
I'm not against trans or the lgbtq I just think that they, and a few other groups, have too much power for such a small portion of the population.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
That makes a lot of sense. I assumed this is how most people feel but there are a large number who feel a stronger agenda is here than a bathroom.
n/a ghansell1434 2017-06-26
I believe that there is a stronger agenda as well, when you hear about the stories of the parents who are telling their young children that they are trans just because their daughter wants to play army or their son likes Barbie.
I've read one story where they even c introduced their child as the opposite gender whenever they meet people. I think that a child shouldn't have anything like that decided for them and I think they should need to wait till they are at least 18 to make any life alerting decisions around procedures.
It's okay to be confused about sexuality, it's okay to truly be trans (regardless of personal religious beliefs), it's not okay to force children who don't know what the hell is going on into a life path they might never have wanted
n/a paulie_purr 2017-06-26
You can take anything you don't like or understand that is "other" to what you know and get and frame it as a grand conspiracy being perpetrated in order to cause harm. If you just go around calling trans people freaks who shouldn't exist, you're just gonna look like a bigoted asshole. Better to turn it into some type of devious scheme being perpetrated against the decent, "normal" people. I imagine those who promote transgenderism as an evil conspiracy probably just don't understand/hate transgenderism as a concept.
This has been done in response to essentially every social movement, by the way. Trans people having rights like everyone else isn't really a social movement so much as a campaign for acceptance, part of the goal maybe being less trans people will be murdered or ostracized or reduced to simply being "mentally ill." A similar thing happened when being openly gay was across-the-board illegal and conversion therapy, always religious-based, was a thing.
n/a Frogreddit 2017-06-26
I guess I am a bigoted asshole
n/a Mrexreturns 2017-06-26
They talk about it every day to induce political division and weaken the population.
n/a TrowwayFiggenstein 2017-06-26
The powers that be would like to destroy the nuclear family to create more government dependence. TPTB are trying to shift cultural norms.
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
Yes see I get this "cultural norms" so many people don't understand what those two words mean together and what is implies as a whole for our understanding of "Family" in the American culture.
n/a LurkPro3000 2017-06-26
"Family" should not be in quotations. It's a real thing that everyone who is born has, regardless of whether they are good family or not.
Babies are born by women. Men inseminate women in order to make babies. This is the difference in genders. Women have to spend their lives caring for the babies, regardless of whether or not she is supported. I don't care what people want to do in their own lives, but i do believe the trans/pseudo-fem movement is a direct attack on the classic Sacred Feminine and Masculine traits that create good family units.
If you think about it, the feminist movement itself is doublespeak, or newspeak. There is nothing "feminine" about the movement at all. It's not asking for women to be treated equally when they are in the home, caring for their children and husband. It's asking for women who act like men to be treated equally as men. The benefit for the government and corporatocracy is 1) get to lower wages/more labor competition within the workplace 2) govt gets to collect double payroll taxes with 2 workers instead of 1 3) with both parents busy at work the state gets to raise your child in endless daycare and public schooling - preparing them to replace their parents like a cog in the corporate workplace once they are used up. Win win win.
n/a OsoFeo 2017-06-26
This is exactly correct.
I'm a gay guy and I strongly believe that gay men and lesbians should be allowed sexual, romantic fulfillment (with one person in a committed monogamous relationship). However, we are really a small minority. Most people are heterosexual, and should be encouraged to form healthy families where children grow up with the proper emotional support from both parents.
All of the cultural messaging in the last 30-40 years has been the opposite of this, incentivizing broken families and emotionally traumatized children.
So my inclination is to agree with people who are concerned about the breakup of the nuclear family, but I wish they'd get off their high horse about gay people. We are not the problem.
n/a LurkPro3000 2017-06-26
I don't think majority of people give a flying toot what other people do in their own home. Except for the minority of high-horse religious folks who feel it's their duty to warn everyone about hell, I think most generally religious people would agree. I think that just as someone else here said the media is blowing the gay/trans perspective out of proportion, I think they may also be blowing the religious/anti-gay perspective out of proportion as well. Divide and conquer, eh?
n/a OsoFeo 2017-06-26
Pretty much.
My in-laws are devout Christians, and I love them dearly. They're fine with me, and appreciate that I make their son happy. I think they may have an issue around same-sex marriage in the abstract, so we're on the down-low about the fact that we're legally married, but other than that everything works pretty smoothly. (I'm not crazy about the idea of same-sex "marriage", as I think the organizing principle around marriage in the religious sense should be preparation of the next generation, but the bundle of tax, property and inheritance rights that comes with civil marriage in the US should be available to all couples, and right now "marriage" is the only way to secure them.)
n/a LurkPro3000 2017-06-26
Glad to hear your story and perspective :) Thanks for sharing
n/a LurkPro3000 2017-06-26
Also, if you want to watch some non-religious videos on the sacred feminine and sacred masculine, what they are and how they are being attacked by western culture - check out Marc passio's videos on YouTube. They are an absolute treasure trove of occult information an how our ignorance of it is being used against us. Hope you and others check it out
n/a PM_ME_FAV_PICS 2017-06-26
Transgender is the new gay rights. Gay rights was the new Civil rights. The idea is to use a social issue that people get more passionate about to entice people to a party while they get robbed blind in taxes.
n/a IndigoMD 2017-06-26
Just fear mongering with lol no shit media stirring the pot.
So you have conspiracy theorist projecting their insecurities on to them through occult means
You have the religious being backwards as always
Then you have the well I don't hate em, but I have no concept of how times change. These are the same people given slavery still being popular probably would have a slave, but it'll defend slavery.
n/a ILoveJuices 2017-06-26
The rates of people identifying as transgender is increasing exponentially. Likely due to xenoestrogens increasing in the environment. The conspiracy is that this being covered up while people are being distracted by the CO2 debate instead.
n/a LurkPro3000 2017-06-26
64 comments and 2 up votes on this post? Wtf?
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
The people who yell at people for not going along with the "gay agenda" are idiots themselves. They are just as "closed minded" as the people they are persecuting. For instance the cake store who wouldn't sell cakes to gay couples. Just go somewhere else, who cares? Write a review on yelp if you're so angry this is a capitalistic society. The cake place that sells more cakes will prosper while the one who sells less won't, or they can both sell cakes who cares it's their store. There are tons of gay people who also feel that way. We're just told by the media who try to divide us that it is the way you feel when it's not when you start talking to individuals one on one were just being divided by the MSM who sensationalise stories to where the outcome is people are taken to court because they didn't want to bake a cake.
n/a Putin_loves_cats 2017-06-26
I feel sorry for your kids, because the stats are against you. Does pappy have a dildo? Yea....
n/a AwakenedIthink 2017-06-26
I just really don't think you understand how hormones work. I think you should read up on what testosterone and estrogen do and the reason your body produces one or the other. Because estrogen does not make you use spray tan and look in a mirror. That's all I'm saying here. I understand where you're coming from but a lot of your conclusions also come from a lack of medical knowledge when it comes to hormones in the body and their effect on it.