Marijuana hype = bad?
5 2017-07-06 by oceanstwentythree
Hey everyone, I've noticed a SHIT TON of pro marijuana stances from the MSM to every you tuber.
The thing is I feel like there's a conspiracy behind it, why would the MSM be advocates of it if the big "pharmaceuticals" control the industry.
If you read protocols of Zion it could be to degenerate the generations to come.
Look I know marijuana does not kill etc etc but look at stoners channels on YouTube of them hitting bongs, they all look large lazy and arrogant.
People claim they need marijuana because it makes things more fun just seems like a delusion Addicts tell themselves to feed their addiction.
I've smoked weed many many times, but now only once or twice a month or whenever it comes to me but seriously I feel like it's overhyped.
When you smoke you laugh at something that's not funny for 2 minutes, then get insecure. I have yet to find someone who's extremely loud and leading while extremely high, it "couch locks you"
This may seem like an anti marijuana post, but I assure you it's not, I'm just curious on what everyone's take on marijuana is. Do you think it's weakening or strengthening society.
To finalize my point, despite anecdotal, It's strange that marijuana is so popular all the sudden, from something the pharmaceuticals hate and will never be legal to everyone loving "tha herb"
On a sidenote this is about the use of RECREATIONAL marijuana, and not medicinal use.
52 comments
n/a 5word 2017-07-06
Who cares if it makes some people lazy, I would rather have a society full of lazy people than a society addicted to pain pills, sleeping pills, cigarettes and alcohol.
n/a oceanstwentythree 2017-07-06
Oh Yeah ha ha ha? You want a less productive society that will eventually canabozile itself Vs a productive society? I'm not insulting medicinal purposes but recreational
n/a NimSauce 2017-07-06
Nixon era bullshit is the only reason you feel this way.
If every alcoholic swapped to pot hundreds of thousands of lives would be saved, countless episodes of violence wouldn't happen AND big pharma would lose billions in profits.
n/a Zybbo 2017-07-06
What evidence do you have for that?
n/a Chokaholic 2017-07-06
The evidence is in the way people behave while drunk vs stoned. Alcohol is also alot more toxic/neurotoxic.
n/a 5word 2017-07-06
I want a society full of living and breathing people, a productive society in your definition is the success of capitalism, a productive society in my definition is living in peace with freedom, where you don't end up in a cage for using a plant.
n/a RiggedITdotCOM 2017-07-06
If you preach 'responsibility' yet are uneducated in the information era...
You should probably learn to spell & comprehend grammar before you preach from your ivory tower.
Ignorance is indolence of the mind.
Indolence = Laziness
n/a StHa14 2017-07-06
But you can't really categorise every weed smoker as not productive or less productive. I used to get high all day and night working at a ridiculously busy bar, but practically every night my till had took the most money
n/a birdman5000 2017-07-06
marijuana = bad? hmmm.. i'll have to put some in my pipe and smoke it.
n/a oceanstwentythree 2017-07-06
If you read protocols of Zion you'd understand. It's hard to put in words but basically it's a goal to create degeneracy
n/a birdman5000 2017-07-06
yeah but weed is cognitively enhancing at times, man. also food tastes awesome.
n/a cmai3000 2017-07-06
I'd rather have the right to be a lazy degenerate then live in a society that demonizes a fucking plant.
n/a Reality_is_a_scam 2017-07-06
i would gauge the typical user by Weedtubers they are like stunt ppl. or ppl who tried and eat or drink giant portions for the novelty of it. most users are pretty lowkey dont bother nobody and just want to be left alone to enjoy their weed in peace lol
n/a oceanstwentythree 2017-07-06
https://youtu.be/TqiNZCIBXnw
n/a Reality_is_a_scam 2017-07-06
yeah the markets ripe for a more conservative weedtuber.
n/a surd117 2017-07-06
You clearly have never smoked a good sativa strain.
I myself am an advocate for "tha herb", and o have asked myself the same questions you have about the MSM and positive support for marijuana. In my experience smoking marijuana, it is very easy to abuse it. I find myself abusing it every now and then but if your going to partake in the jazz cabbage, you have to find your equilibrium. Like those famous words"everything in moderation"; that moderation is subjective and needs to be sought out. IMO, if you can master that moderation, marijuana can be the key to open your eyes to a lot of the crap going on in the world. I picture it works in a way where it removes a filter from your brain in a sense and places your mind on a different angle of thought. However, like i said earlier, that moderation must he sought out and will not just finds it's way to you. Like you said earlier, marijuana can make people very lazy and arrogant, especially when abused.
I believe the MSM is using the fact that marijuana has been forbidden for so long (possibly doe the reasons i mentioned above) and now its making a strong comeback. The MSM is going to use all this positive info to build up the water at the dam and then once weed is legalized and the dam finally breaks, the whole nation will be overjoyed into abusing the shit out of the herb, thus dooming everyone to be lazy and arrogant and easier to control. It's almost poetic
n/a oceanstwentythree 2017-07-06
Thanks for the reply, my fav strain is jack herer a solid sativa.
I'm just generalizing there but the hype does not live up to it imp
n/a 5word 2017-07-06
Maybe you're just not an open-minded individual who can take advantage of something people believe helps to open their minds. This thread proves that with your discrimination of all people who partake for recreational reasons, saying they are all lazy and arrogant because you watched some Youtube videos.
n/a oceanstwentythree 2017-07-06
Well protocols of Zion specifically mentions this behaviour. Stop being glib and read it friend
n/a 5word 2017-07-06
Drop a quote and we can discuss it.
n/a oceanstwentythree 2017-07-06
I don't have the book on hand but "and then the goyim will suck up to the herb, it will protoize them, and then when their eyes are red and filled with a herb, undead but human we will enslave them"
~ Protocals of Zion
n/a 5word 2017-07-06
If you can find that quote in there I'd be interested in reading more, but my searches bring up nothing about a herb or red eyes.
n/a oceanstwentythree 2017-07-06
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/23739770.2013.11446567
1 oceanstwentythree 2017-07-06
What's your take on that quote in the protocols of Zion?
1 5word 2017-07-06
I couldn't find it using an internet search, maybe you read it somewhere else?
n/a surd117 2017-07-06
Well yea marijuana can be used to "open ones mind" however, OP is right to fear the Zionist intentions. Just like many things, you can have too much of a good thing and i believe that is what they are setting up to happen, whether that be to create a lazy easily controllable population or to use it aa a boomerang effect to give weed a bad name once again
n/a DarthStem 2017-07-06
I live in a legal state and am trying to get into the industry. I have noticed MJ has become more mainstream with legalization. Like the Snoop Dogg/Martha Stewart commercial from the super bowl. They are just making it a social norm by using subtle propaganda just like everything else.
But I think they are going to let the movement continue and grow because the war on drugs and the DEA are running out time to go after weed. So why not make people think its ok then when Monsanto starts producing their cannabis and adding who knows what to it then we get into a new opioid type addiction cycle. We aren't going to be able to keep big pharma out of the industry but that is the eventual goal IMO.
n/a RRSig 2017-07-06
Personal opinion, I like weed better than booze. Don't get me wrong, I like beer, but I'd rather be high than drunk. I don't like the feeling of being drunk. I like being high and relaxing. Everyone reacts differently to weed. I've know people that freak out, relax, space out and pass out. Others it just makes them paranoid and it makes for a bad Time. There is always going to be people that constantly abuse substances to the extreme, that's where you get your "stoners". I personally think marijuana is not at all bad. I believe in the medicinal properties that it has. I miss smoking, I can't anymore due to my career.
n/a aevans395 2017-07-06
There are many positive effects of MJ on spirituality. If you meditate try doing it stoned and you will be blown away. At least for me it greatly impacts the activation of the pineal gland. I believe that if it's going to be legalized they want to control the market from top to bottom to make the weed worse for us and take away it's spiritual capabilities.
n/a oceanstwentythree 2017-07-06
I prefer meditating sober
n/a Sebastiannotthecrab 2017-07-06
This guyyy gettin all ramped up with the religious mumbo jumbo
n/a oceanstwentythree 2017-07-06
What?
n/a transcendReality 2017-07-06
Cannabis is the free thinkers drug. If anything, it encourages us to think more existentially, not less so. You've seen cannabis and how it's used in younger circles. It's very different among older folks. All of the most intelligent people I have ever known have at least tried cannabis.
n/a oceanstwentythree 2017-07-06
Like who?
n/a transcendReality 2017-07-06
The people I know?
n/a oceanstwentythree 2017-07-06
Yeah that's not completely anecdotal
Go to r/leaves
I know plentiful of smart people that don't smoke weed and are philosophical as ever.
I always AMOG stoners with their girlfriends too because their defences are down. Not on purpose but because it comes naturally.
Twice a girl left with me because the "guy they were with" was high
n/a transcendReality 2017-07-06
What exactly are you saying? At least one study has found that drug users tend to be more intelligent than non-users.
n/a oceanstwentythree 2017-07-06
Wow one study? That's completely trustworthy and probably had much scientific fact /s
I can assure you for every smart stoner there's 10 dumb ones
n/a transcendReality 2017-07-06
Why Kids With High IQs Are More Likely to Take Drugs
Why Intelligent People Use More Drugs
Smarter People Stay Up Later, Do More Drugs and Have More Sex
Perhaps you'll give these a read for a better understanding. You first must be aware of your consciousness before you can aspire to alter it. The more intelligent you are, the deeper ones understanding of perception is, the more likely they are to experiment with altering it. Furthermore, drug education is almost purely propaganda.
Propaganda is more easily recognized by those smart enough to see it, which, naturally, leads to a greater degree of curiosity. Drug education therefore fails to have any impact on our best and brightest students, and often, does more harm, than good.
n/a Zigora 2017-07-06
Remember the drug that kept the masses quelled in Brave New World?
Well it won't be pot. It will be the synthetic pot the big pharma companies develop.
Welcome to the beginning of the NWO.
n/a oceanstwentythree 2017-07-06
Thank you for substantive input and not "pot is amazing you're being stupid" talk.
n/a Zigora 2017-07-06
Pot is good. For many things. Including mental health.
The second Monsanto gets its hands on its patent, pot will become bad.
That's why big pharma is pushing for the control of it and paying millions, maybe billions, to fight against you growing your own.
n/a DoEyeNoU 2017-07-06
I agree with you.
n/a Girlforgeeks 2017-07-06
Marijuana is absolutely harmful.
Check out r/leaves.
I believe you are into something here.
n/a oceanstwentythree 2017-07-06
Thanks for the input
n/a DoEyeNoU 2017-07-06
Just as with any medication, some it helps and some it hurts. I visited that subreddit and can appreciate their flight. I wish it had been good for them as it was me. They are an amazing group and support all of them in kicking it from their lives.
n/a Girlforgeeks 2017-07-06
agreed, it's really an addiction issue. Thanks.
n/a DoEyeNoU 2017-07-06
Daily user. The image you associate with stoners is the one you've been indoctrinated to have. As a diagnosed sufferer of chronic depression, peripheral neuropathy, and IBM, as well as a host of other undiagnosed ailments, MJ has changed my life for the better. Before I began using, you would have mistaken me for a stoner based on your description. If you knew me before, you'd be amazed as this optimistic, energetic person with an intense love of life I am today.
I assure you there are more stoners in your life than you know. You don't even suspect they're using because you believe in the stereotype taught to you because a of a few silly kids who made videos for YouTube. Don't fret though, it's all good. Most of us are just average people, making our way through life like everyone else. It's not always easy though and MJ helps us cope with the every day stresses of asshole bosses, rising inflation, fighting kids, grumpy spouses, and neighborhood drama. We don't want to hurt anyone, we just want to be able to smoke in peace without being judged as the dunces of society.
The PTB realize they are losing the fight. The truth is coming to light based on personal experience. Now the narrative will change. They're admitting in MSM the benefits of natural substances such as weed and mushrooms. They will regain control over MJ by legalizing it, taxing it, and controlling it. They will also learn who uses it as visitors to dispensaries are registered to a state database. Legalization also opens the door for Big Pharma to get in on it as well.
Think not for a moment TPTB have simply given up on the issue. No, this is all by design.
n/a oceanstwentythree 2017-07-06
R/leaves
n/a beware_the_spooks 2017-07-06
This all assumes these protocols are taken as gospel and and that point my friend, you lose me in your ignorance.
n/a transcendReality 2017-07-06
The people I know?