That's a lot to sort out. Heard an interesting theory that Hitler was born in the wrong time frame. He was supposed to be born into the Crusades when barbarism for idealistic religious purposes was the norm.
Wrong, Pilate was indifferent to killing Jesus, in fact I think he didn't want to but the Pharisee's demanded he be killed. He was also killed in a really brutal method.
1 Thessalonians 2:15 "The Jews...who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:"
This isn't referring to "Jews" as in the Jewish people but back then their were a relatively small number of followers of Christ. So anybody else was basically Jews.
OK, but if the people of that time believed the Romans were responsible for killing Christ, why would they not say the Romans? Your theory doesn't work.
The Romans were pretty ambivalent about who they killed it was all business for them. They weren't necessarily evil they killed Jesus because he was a threat to Roman rule.
I don't understand why people try to blame and be vindictive about Christ's death. He was meant to give his life. Do you think God sent his only son to Earth and didn't know it was going to be bad. Jesus had been tested throughout his life. His Crucifixion was his final test.
You are arguing based on feelings and emotions when the Bible is matter of fact clear about the responsibility for Christ's death. This is not debatable. The Jews killed Christ using the Romans as a proxy.
I already provided one explicit passage from the New Testament naming the Jews as responsible. You downplayed and ignored it. No matter I provide, I am sure you will do the same. I am not sure what your agenda is, but you are not interested in truth.
God is responsible for everything that happens in this world. If you believe in the Bible you know Jesus was meant to die for your sins. Why contribute to some Antisemitic post borders on blasphemy?
That makes absolutely no sense. This one went right over your head. Obviously you're too dim to figure out what I was trying to do by asking you to tell me what it means. Stop wasting my time with nonsense.
What's your definition of the word stop? Explain yourself... You can't use the word stop without proving you know what it means. If you won't define stop then that means you're not smart.
Actually I was implying that the Jewish Diaspora and subsequently the Holocaust (if it even happened) was the result of the Jewish people killing the Messiah Jesus Christ and refusing to repent from their sin which led to the lose of their homeland.
In a speech before the World Zionist Congress in Jerusalem, Netanyahu described a meeting between Husseini and Hitler in November, 1941: "Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jew. And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here (to Palestine).' According to Netanyahu, Hitler then asked: "What should I do with them?" and the mufti replied: "Burn them."
No, but it certainly raises suspicion on why it happened. Instead of the narrative that it was completely Hitler's idea, this statement from Israel's Prime Minister says that it was the Grand Mufti's suggestion to burn the Jews, and Netanyahu explains that Hitler only wanted to exile them. Does this make Netanyahu an anti-semite as well? How about all of the Jews that don't believe in Zionism, or the legitimacy of the State of Israel?
The Jewish Pharisees killed Jesus. You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
How is my post anti-semitic? I speculating on the will of God not saying the Jews deserved it. Although based on their actions today, Imo they are no better than the Nazis.
God's punishment of the Jews for killing Christ came long before Hitler. In 70AD, God used the Roman General Titus to obliterate Jerusalem and the Jews Temple—after which point, the Jews were completely dispersed from the land. Over one million Jews perished.
Hitler and the Nazi party were pretty specific about their reasons for kicking the Jews out of the country.
As for your question however, I'd have to say no. God seems to favor the Jews as they persevered and prospered after every setback they've encountered throughout the ages.
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n/a Beneficial1 2017-07-07
That's a lot to sort out. Heard an interesting theory that Hitler was born in the wrong time frame. He was supposed to be born into the Crusades when barbarism for idealistic religious purposes was the norm.
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
The Romans killed Jesus.
n/a LyleMillar 2017-07-07
Wrong, Pilate was indifferent to killing Jesus, in fact I think he didn't want to but the Pharisee's demanded he be killed. He was also killed in a really brutal method.
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
Crucifixion is a Roman form of torture. That was their form of Capital Punishment back them.
n/a LyleMillar 2017-07-07
Yeah I know, but like I said, the Pharisees demanded that Jesus be executed.
n/a DrDuplicitous 2017-07-07
Indeed. Christ even pardoned the Romans when He said, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do."
n/a DrDuplicitous 2017-07-07
The Jews killed Christ through the Romans as a proxy. The Scriptures are very clear about this.
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
What scriptures are those?
n/a DrDuplicitous 2017-07-07
Several, but for starters:
1 Thessalonians 2:15 "The Jews...who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:"
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
This isn't referring to "Jews" as in the Jewish people but back then their were a relatively small number of followers of Christ. So anybody else was basically Jews.
n/a DrDuplicitous 2017-07-07
OK, but if the people of that time believed the Romans were responsible for killing Christ, why would they not say the Romans? Your theory doesn't work.
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
The Romans were pretty ambivalent about who they killed it was all business for them. They weren't necessarily evil they killed Jesus because he was a threat to Roman rule.
I don't understand why people try to blame and be vindictive about Christ's death. He was meant to give his life. Do you think God sent his only son to Earth and didn't know it was going to be bad. Jesus had been tested throughout his life. His Crucifixion was his final test.
n/a DrDuplicitous 2017-07-07
You are arguing based on feelings and emotions when the Bible is matter of fact clear about the responsibility for Christ's death. This is not debatable. The Jews killed Christ using the Romans as a proxy.
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
Says you?
n/a DrDuplicitous 2017-07-07
I already provided one explicit passage from the New Testament naming the Jews as responsible. You downplayed and ignored it. No matter I provide, I am sure you will do the same. I am not sure what your agenda is, but you are not interested in truth.
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
God is responsible for everything that happens in this world. If you believe in the Bible you know Jesus was meant to die for your sins. Why contribute to some Antisemitic post borders on blasphemy?
n/a DrDuplicitous 2017-07-07
Sounds like a bunch of heretical Calvinist nonsense. Oh, and what's that? You're going to use that tired old "anti-Semite" card? You're a joke.
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
It's clearly based in Antisemitism and to question God is Blasphemy.
n/a DrDuplicitous 2017-07-07
What is anti-Antisemitism? Please explain.
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
The last sentence of the post "the Jews did it to themselves".
n/a DrDuplicitous 2017-07-07
Stop. Explain what anti-Semitism means.
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
Google it.
n/a DrDuplicitous 2017-07-07
I don't want Google's definition. I want yours. Now man up and tell me. If you can't explain then you can't accuse people of being it.
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
Man up?
This is the internet age you can google it.
You're not even making an argument defending yourself or the post. You've changed the argument into what is the definition of Antisemitism.
n/a DrDuplicitous 2017-07-07
You are calling people antisemitic yet you cant even define it in your own words. You are an intellectual fraud.
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
I can I just refuse because that is not the question. This is pointless.
What color is the sky?
Blue.
What? No it's not. What's the definition of Blue?
n/a DrDuplicitous 2017-07-07
That makes absolutely no sense. This one went right over your head. Obviously you're too dim to figure out what I was trying to do by asking you to tell me what it means. Stop wasting my time with nonsense.
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
What's your definition of the word stop? Explain yourself... You can't use the word stop without proving you know what it means. If you won't define stop then that means you're not smart.
n/a LyleMillar 2017-07-07
Actually I was implying that the Jewish Diaspora and subsequently the Holocaust (if it even happened) was the result of the Jewish people killing the Messiah Jesus Christ and refusing to repent from their sin which led to the lose of their homeland.
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
Right questioning the Holocaust is definitely not Antisemitism.
n/a LyleMillar 2017-07-07
With posts like this how can you not question the validity of the Holocaust?
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
I'm not even clicking on this.
n/a LyleMillar 2017-07-07
In a speech before the World Zionist Congress in Jerusalem, Netanyahu described a meeting between Husseini and Hitler in November, 1941: "Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jew. And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here (to Palestine).' According to Netanyahu, Hitler then asked: "What should I do with them?" and the mufti replied: "Burn them."
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
That doesn't have anything to do with the Holocaust not happening.
n/a LyleMillar 2017-07-07
No, but it certainly raises suspicion on why it happened. Instead of the narrative that it was completely Hitler's idea, this statement from Israel's Prime Minister says that it was the Grand Mufti's suggestion to burn the Jews, and Netanyahu explains that Hitler only wanted to exile them. Does this make Netanyahu an anti-semite as well? How about all of the Jews that don't believe in Zionism, or the legitimacy of the State of Israel?
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
So you go from out right questioning if it happened then backtracked to it raises suspicions why it happened. Not the same thing at all.
n/a LyleMillar 2017-07-07
The Jewish Pharisees killed Jesus. You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
You quote the Bible in an Antisemitic post you created. Think Jesus would agree with that.
n/a LyleMillar 2017-07-07
How is my post anti-semitic? I speculating on the will of God not saying the Jews deserved it. Although based on their actions today, Imo they are no better than the Nazis.
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
So you question God? That's called Blasphemy...
n/a LyleMillar 2017-07-07
I didn't say I was questioning the will of God, I said I was speculating, which is completely different.
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
No it's definitely the same thing. You are questioning why and how. That's Blasphemy.
n/a LyleMillar 2017-07-07
The definition of speculation is: the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.
The definition of question is: feel or express doubt about; raise objections to.
Similar, however clearly different in their definitions.
While we are at it, here is the definition of blasphemy: the act or offense of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things; profane talk.
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
It's Blasphemy.
n/a GlobalSouth 2017-07-07
Hitler failed.
n/a LyleMillar 2017-07-07
Well he punished them not completely destroy them.
n/a GlobalSouth 2017-07-07
But he punished them for wrecking the German economy and for supporting Communists, not because of Jesus.
n/a DrDuplicitous 2017-07-07
God's punishment of the Jews for killing Christ came long before Hitler. In 70AD, God used the Roman General Titus to obliterate Jerusalem and the Jews Temple—after which point, the Jews were completely dispersed from the land. Over one million Jews perished.
n/a LyleMillar 2017-07-07
The year is 2017 and they still haven't accepted Jesus as the Meshiach or repented from their sins.
n/a DrDuplicitous 2017-07-07
Then they are already condemned. It's over for them.
n/a Awesomo3082 2017-07-07
What if... you've bought into a delusion.
n/a AFbeardguy 2017-07-07
Hitler and the Nazi party were pretty specific about their reasons for kicking the Jews out of the country.
As for your question however, I'd have to say no. God seems to favor the Jews as they persevered and prospered after every setback they've encountered throughout the ages.
n/a Mike_McDermott 2017-07-07
Out of the three characters mentioned in this post, only one actually lived and was real.
n/a falconerhk 2017-07-07
Right? The new testament is control fodder.
n/a codaclouds 2017-07-07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAaBg_XPwe0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEZkvsK7nfo
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
You quote the Bible in an Antisemitic post you created. Think Jesus would agree with that.
n/a useyourimagination1 2017-07-07
So you go from out right questioning if it happened then backtracked to it raises suspicions why it happened. Not the same thing at all.