What if Hitler was sent by God to punish the Jews for killing Jesus Christ?

0  2017-07-07 by [deleted]

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That's a lot to sort out. Heard an interesting theory that Hitler was born in the wrong time frame. He was supposed to be born into the Crusades when barbarism for idealistic religious purposes was the norm.

The Romans killed Jesus.

Wrong, Pilate was indifferent to killing Jesus, in fact I think he didn't want to but the Pharisee's demanded he be killed. He was also killed in a really brutal method.

Crucifixion is a Roman form of torture. That was their form of Capital Punishment back them.

Yeah I know, but like I said, the Pharisees demanded that Jesus be executed.

Indeed. Christ even pardoned the Romans when He said, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do."

The Jews killed Christ through the Romans as a proxy. The Scriptures are very clear about this.

What scriptures are those?

Several, but for starters:

1 Thessalonians 2:15 "The Jews...who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:"

This isn't referring to "Jews" as in the Jewish people but back then their were a relatively small number of followers of Christ. So anybody else was basically Jews.

OK, but if the people of that time believed the Romans were responsible for killing Christ, why would they not say the Romans? Your theory doesn't work.

The Romans were pretty ambivalent about who they killed it was all business for them. They weren't necessarily evil they killed Jesus because he was a threat to Roman rule.

I don't understand why people try to blame and be vindictive about Christ's death. He was meant to give his life. Do you think God sent his only son to Earth and didn't know it was going to be bad. Jesus had been tested throughout his life. His Crucifixion was his final test.

You are arguing based on feelings and emotions when the Bible is matter of fact clear about the responsibility for Christ's death. This is not debatable. The Jews killed Christ using the Romans as a proxy.

Says you?

I already provided one explicit passage from the New Testament naming the Jews as responsible. You downplayed and ignored it. No matter I provide, I am sure you will do the same. I am not sure what your agenda is, but you are not interested in truth.

God is responsible for everything that happens in this world. If you believe in the Bible you know Jesus was meant to die for your sins. Why contribute to some Antisemitic post borders on blasphemy?

Sounds like a bunch of heretical Calvinist nonsense. Oh, and what's that? You're going to use that tired old "anti-Semite" card? You're a joke.

It's clearly based in Antisemitism and to question God is Blasphemy.

What is anti-Antisemitism? Please explain.

The last sentence of the post "the Jews did it to themselves".

Stop. Explain what anti-Semitism means.

Google it.

I don't want Google's definition. I want yours. Now man up and tell me. If you can't explain then you can't accuse people of being it.

Man up?

This is the internet age you can google it.

You're not even making an argument defending yourself or the post. You've changed the argument into what is the definition of Antisemitism.

You are calling people antisemitic yet you cant even define it in your own words. You are an intellectual fraud.

I can I just refuse because that is not the question. This is pointless.

What color is the sky?

Blue.

What? No it's not. What's the definition of Blue?

That makes absolutely no sense. This one went right over your head. Obviously you're too dim to figure out what I was trying to do by asking you to tell me what it means. Stop wasting my time with nonsense.

What's your definition of the word stop? Explain yourself... You can't use the word stop without proving you know what it means. If you won't define stop then that means you're not smart.

Actually I was implying that the Jewish Diaspora and subsequently the Holocaust (if it even happened) was the result of the Jewish people killing the Messiah Jesus Christ and refusing to repent from their sin which led to the lose of their homeland.

Right questioning the Holocaust is definitely not Antisemitism.

I'm not even clicking on this.

In a speech before the World Zionist Congress in Jerusalem, Netanyahu described a meeting between Husseini and Hitler in November, 1941: "Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jew. And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here (to Palestine).' According to Netanyahu, Hitler then asked: "What should I do with them?" and the mufti replied: "Burn them."

That doesn't have anything to do with the Holocaust not happening.

No, but it certainly raises suspicion on why it happened. Instead of the narrative that it was completely Hitler's idea, this statement from Israel's Prime Minister says that it was the Grand Mufti's suggestion to burn the Jews, and Netanyahu explains that Hitler only wanted to exile them. Does this make Netanyahu an anti-semite as well? How about all of the Jews that don't believe in Zionism, or the legitimacy of the State of Israel?

So you go from out right questioning if it happened then backtracked to it raises suspicions why it happened. Not the same thing at all.

The Jewish Pharisees killed Jesus. You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

You quote the Bible in an Antisemitic post you created. Think Jesus would agree with that.

How is my post anti-semitic? I speculating on the will of God not saying the Jews deserved it. Although based on their actions today, Imo they are no better than the Nazis.

So you question God? That's called Blasphemy...

I didn't say I was questioning the will of God, I said I was speculating, which is completely different.

No it's definitely the same thing. You are questioning why and how. That's Blasphemy.

The definition of speculation is: the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.

The definition of question is: feel or express doubt about; raise objections to.

Similar, however clearly different in their definitions.

While we are at it, here is the definition of blasphemy: the act or offense of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things; profane talk.

It's Blasphemy.

Hitler failed.

Well he punished them not completely destroy them.

But he punished them for wrecking the German economy and for supporting Communists, not because of Jesus.

God's punishment of the Jews for killing Christ came long before Hitler. In 70AD, God used the Roman General Titus to obliterate Jerusalem and the Jews Temple—after which point, the Jews were completely dispersed from the land. Over one million Jews perished.

The year is 2017 and they still haven't accepted Jesus as the Meshiach or repented from their sins.

Then they are already condemned. It's over for them.

What if... you've bought into a delusion.

Hitler and the Nazi party were pretty specific about their reasons for kicking the Jews out of the country.

As for your question however, I'd have to say no. God seems to favor the Jews as they persevered and prospered after every setback they've encountered throughout the ages.

Out of the three characters mentioned in this post, only one actually lived and was real.

Right? The new testament is control fodder.

You quote the Bible in an Antisemitic post you created. Think Jesus would agree with that.

So you go from out right questioning if it happened then backtracked to it raises suspicions why it happened. Not the same thing at all.