What can we do about r/politics?

19  2017-07-28 by [deleted]

They literally ban people simply for making conservative arguments ESPECIALLY if those arguments involve logic and empiricism and get attention. How are they able to get away with this and still masquerade as being unbiased and a place for political discourse? It's obvious the intention of that place is to convince normies that the overwhelming popular opinion is authoritarian and "liberal," and they do this by banning any arguments that go against authority and neo-liberalism while promoting shills and bots.

Fun story: There was an account spamming that wikileaks had released false emails and he claimed to "work in cyber security and IT" but then I asked him if he knew how email cryptographic verification worked and he said it was easily fooled and then proceeded to call me a Russian dis-info agent and tell me that he "worked for his country," which basically means he admitted to being a paid shill. I reported him but he wasnt banned.

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Let them dissolve naturally.

delete the sub from your subscriptions. I did it a year ago.

When it switched overnight from being essentially pro Bernie and anti Hillary to propaganda for Hillary I unsubbed. It was so blatantly obvious.

The there was the day after the election when it returned to normal cause they didn't think they would need to pay people to lie about them. That didn't last. Creepy and obvious as fuck.

It was a completely different place on the day of calm - temporarily civilised!

Any theories as to why that might have happened?

Possibly due to TPTB not having a social media damage limitation plan for the unexpected election result. Shills had no guidance so stepped away from the usual conversation manipulation.

Serious question, how confident are you that these 'paid shills' exist? 100%?

The numbers do not add up. I saw it firsthand, but that can be considered anecdotal, but the raw data you cannot overlook. Politics doesn't represent this data at all. The majority of reddit are millennials, 75%+, the majority of millennials support Sanders and his policies, similar numbers 75%+. Anything that speaks of Bernie or of his policies should be upvoted, that isn't the case at all.

On the night of clinton snaggin the nomination the shilling became so outrageous with R/politics I backspaced my address bar and punched in /conspiracy instead.

Then wikileaks and then pizzagate. Now alls left is "why did obama meet with alefantis in the whitehouse?"

So, why did the former president meet a guy who's an ex-boyfriend of another guy who censors social media?

But r-politics followed everyone here

Yep, a lot of people here are refugees from that place during the election.

It turned so quickly.

delete the sub from your subscriptions. I did it a year ago.

Preach brother.

It's mainly bots and shills talking among themselves. Don't visit that sub, it's like an alternate reality and will drive you insane.

I've been thinking recently, looking at how formulaic posts on the_donald are (I do agree with some of their views, but you can't say that that subreddit is the place to find intelligent discourse when 90% of the posts are less than 10 words).... I've been thinking, do you know how AI chatbots learn? Like how they taught Tay-Tay to be racist?

They just learn phrases and responses and stuff based on what other people have said. Then when someone asks them a question or something, they just give a similar response to what someone else said before. Now, if you go to cleverbot or a similar chat robot, and you open 2 tabs, and copy+paste the responses back and forth, it's a eerily humanlike conversation.

So really, when I look at a board like Politics or The_donald, that's all I see. Even if there are a lot of humans there, they're just conditioned to give the same responses like they're robots. It's just really weird. Just a bunch of programmed responses to each other, manufactured so that outsiders looking in are fooled into thinking this is real.

Weird, I go there all the time and all I see jokes and discussion? What bot like behavior are we talking about? Any examples?

Boilerplate Trump disses and I assume that you could program a bot to comment common jokes as well. I havent actually been able to prove anyone is a bot per se but it looks suspicious when that is all a certain account posts. Shills on the otherhand are blatant and obvious and it's not inconceivable and likely probable that there are sort of hybrids that when responded to alert a user so that human responses can be incorporated. It's best not to underestimate your adversary and so i can only assume their techniques are getting more sophisticated each day.

Shilling and robotizim is so deep now, they don't even notice it when they do it themselves.

lobotomy in action

They literally ban people simply for making conservative arguments ESPECIALLY if those arguments involve logic and empiricism and get attention.

Care to show evidence?

How are they able to get away with this and still masquerade as being unbiased and a place for political discourse?

Because subreddit's are ran by users, and those users can run it pretty much how they please.

It's obvious the intention of that place is to convince normies that the overwhelming popular opinion is authoritarian and "liberal,"

Err... Reddit is mostly young people, young people are more likely to be liberal, it's not hard to put two and two together here.

and they do this by banning any arguments that go against authority and neo-liberalism while promoting shills and bots.

Evidence please.

Fun story: There was an account spamming that wikileaks had released false emails and he claimed to "work in cyber security and IT" but then I asked him if he knew how email cryptographic verification worked and he said it was easily fooled and then proceeded to call me a Russian dis-info agent and tell me that he "worked for his country," which basically means he admitted to being a paid shill. I reported him but he wasnt banned.

Not as fun a story as I was hoping for, someone saying their a shill doesn't mean they are telling the truth.. Nor does it prove they are shills in any way shape or form, you want a mod to ban someone based on the off chance they weren't lying? Do you really think shills would be going around telling people they are shills? Unless of course it's a double bluff, ah ha, say they are shills so people don't think they are.. Or maybe it's a triple bluff..

Pretty much all of the big subs are bad. Reddit is terribly designed for discussion, the upvote system naturally creates hiveminds where popularity wins out over correctness and low effort contributions are rewarded more than high effort is.

you NEED so much evidence, that im sure you have no evidence for "young people being mostly liberal"...besides the fact that this statement attempts to establish that subs metrics are organic

The user /u/Simplicity3245 did an excellent statistical rundown of /r/politics that basicly indicates a lot of shilling.

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Evidence please

Just go to the goddamn sub. It's blatant and routine. You'll also find a lot of screenshots on T_D of people getting banned from /politics for mundane posts that don't tow the current narrative. Your Devil's Advocacy is obnoxious and suspicious.

Eh, T_D can be just as bad. I got banned for asking a well received question that was a common misconception. It led to a 12-hour well cited discussion with lots of people commenting in replies just saying "thanks for bringing this up" yet I got banned.

Pfft...

That's not very nice but at least T_D admits to being heavily biased where as r/politics is literally a psyop towards normal people that dont sit infront of the computer all day.

Care to show evidence? I was banned a week ago without explanation after making a few logical points that got a moderate amount of attention even though being downvoted to hell, and I didnt break the rules of the sub. A lot of the comments people make there break the rules of the sub but they are making fun of conservatives so then their incivility is ignored.

Because subreddit's are ran by users, and those users can run it pretty much how they please. R/politics seems to be an "official" sub or something and seems to have administration all the way from the top. Ofc I can't prove it but the amount of traffic, fake or not, would logically get attention from corporate. If it really is ran by some random users then they are certainly receiving promotion from corporate, and it is not called r/liberalpolitics but instead tries to falsely bill itself as unbiased just from the name alone.

Err... Reddit is mostly young people, young people are more likely to be liberal, it's not hard to put two and two together here. There are plenty of anti authoritarian young people and r/politics is ALL about authority. The people that want the government to prosecute hate speech and whatnot are a VOCAL minority.

and they do this by banning any arguments that go against authority and neo-liberalism while promoting shills and bots. I'm just commenting from my own experience mostly but it's very obvious that sub is infested with bots and shills just look for yourself. Anyone with half a brain and time can deduce as much.

Do you really think shills would be going around telling people they are shills? This guy ACCIDENTALLY let it slip that he "worked for his country" and was trying to say he works in IT security which to me seems very likely to have been from a paid shill when you take into account human psychology. It's anecdotal.

R/politics is run by the admins bro not the users

Why do you care?

Lying isnt ethical although ofc im not saying there should be a law against it or something but it's bad because normies think theyre looking at an organic and unbiased sub. R/politics is trying to convince people that the majority of reddit posters support authoritarianism and the neo-liberal agenda. This inspires false group think and "If i cant beat them I might as well join them" behavior. Although it's obvious what is going on to anyone with experience on the internet and deduction capabilities.

You don't have to go there? I haven't been there for like 5yrs. I wouldn't even remember they exist except people keep bringing them up.

It's bad though because like i keep saying, r/politics is a psyop targeting normies that casually get onto reddit just to take a peak at cat pictures and possibly see what is going on politically. It's like a false narrative. I hate authoritarianism but when things like this occur they deserve exposure, but somehow I feel like its improbable mainstream media would cover such a story.

r/politics is a psyop targeting normies

And this right here is why people don't take conspiracy theorists seriously.

Because most people there are idiots easily brainwashed by psyops?

Mainstream media could be considered a grand psyop.. Psyop doesnt mean necessarily originating from the government, although there is project mockingbird.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

How about: Politics is a sub meant to make new and casual users of reddit believe the world universally loves H.Clinton, nothing bad is happening with them but nothing BUT bad things is happening with the currently sitting President (often when said President has nothing to do with it, like rebranding everything the military or other groups do as "Trump's This-and-That and how awful it is", and usually even that is a lie or misrepresented like saying X happeneded when in reality Y happened but X was mentioned in an unrelated manner.

It's true, though. A very large percentage of the conversation (>50% is my personal feeling) is fake. Media Matters has owned that subreddit completely for at least a year. They are very obviously 'home base' for ShareBlue and formerly CTR.

Because one dude? I guess if you need a reason to dismiss a diverse group of people...

Exactly. That's why some bullshit story is on the top of r/all everyday

Yep, avoid it like the plague and then you won't have to constantly poison yourself huffing their propaganda.

Nothing. I go over and kill some karna every now and then. If you ask them for facts or point out their hypocrisy they stop responding and only downvote you. All of Reddit has become so strange, I recently switched to iOS and the official Reddit app won't let me filter out subs that Reddit is fun did on Android. So now I see the Trump spam and other bs subs. I hate that the conversations I used to have on politics are gone. For instances, I have no problem with gays serving openly, I served 8 years and ran a large avionics shop. My 2 best workers were lesbian and I would rather work with them to get a job done then the men in my shop. I hated sick bay commandos, people who stubbed their toe and had to go to medical. We had a lot of these people too. They didn't affect readiness because I didn't count on then at all, they weren't bad people, they were just useless in my eyes. Every trans person I've ever met seems to have just come from the doctor or is telling me about their next appointment, and really wants to tell about them. But here's where I think the American people really get screwed by letting trans serve. These people will go to medical for everything, which I should have done. I worked in really dangerous places I.e war zone, carrier flight deck, test cell, air refueling, but I never went to medical for anything and got out with 0% disabled, in the VA's eyes I almost didn't serve. Some trans that goes to medical all the time, build up their VA percentage and would probably take about 2 years to get 100%, which means 100% medical and dental for life, including paying for their transition. Then they can get out and be interviewed to CNN about how they honorably served. I know people really fucked up from serving their country who only get 20 or 30% and people who never did shit get 100%.

My opinion, but a few years ago I could have this discussion over at politics. If I posted that opinion over there now, I'd be compared to Hitler slaughtering the Jews for not standing up to trans rights.

Hmm the medical thing seems like a consequence of the public sector IMO. What do you think about hypothetically privatizing military aviation? Also what kind of aircraft did you work on?

What kind of aircraft? Also, dont you think that the medical thing is a consequence of the public sector more than a sexuality issue? And how do you feel about privatizing the military, especially things like maintenance?

I was AIMD, so I worked mostly on components from aircraft, so I could say all of them. I also worked on a system called buddy stores, air-to-air refueling, so I spent some time on the flight deck, fucking nuts is the best way to describe it. Testing engines on a test cell was also fun and crazy too.

The long term medical is never considered in the debates I've heard, just the first while active. I don't know the right answer, as I'm sure some trans will be great solders, but it seems like a stupid debate to be honest as it's such a small percentage. The military is and needs to be mission based, not a barometer for social change.

I served from 91 - 98, and the F-18 seemed like a disposable aircraft, by that I mean we sent most parts on to depot (manufacturing) or tossed and replaced. The F-14 were my favorite to look at and watch fly, but least favorite to fix. The older helos had to leak to fly, if it wasn't leaking, it was out of fluid. So it seems with more advanced electronics more mainframe will be privatized, but not all.

FUCK r/politics and their brainless moderators who are nothing but useless lackeys and their horde of "junior mods" who do the slave work and have been removing articles/posts from the system (for at least the last year)

UNSUBSCRIBE

Unsubscribing is fine for us but for the casual people that are unaware there must be a way we can expose them maybe on social media or something like twitter or facebook.

It's pretty much OVER for r/politics (just like r/news became a useless tool). Last year they began removing content and changed their rules drastically, which included discontinuing "self-post saturdays." The mods and jr. mods even went back months to remove posts/links (this affected searches more than anything). I have no proof of this--but I'm pretty sure other users or mods of this sub will back me up on this (regarding the removals).

In the original post which r/politics made to discontinue self-post saturdays--they said they might bring them back after the election (never happened). I think that was in April or May 2016.

There is a difference between liberal and neo liberal. Also try posting a comment supporting a left wing policy like single payer Healthcare. That's a ban. Not only is politics fucked but the entirety of reddit is dying. Or more like being murdered by corporate power. Don't make this a partisan thing.

Aren't dems synonymous with neo-liberal? There is also "the regressive left" and "libtard" as well or "authoritarian left."

All very strange labels. Liberal is not neo liberal. Just like conservative is not neo conservative. Neo liberal and neo con are very similar to one another. As in crooked sell outs to the military industrial complex.

Theyve twisted liberal to mean.. liberty to enforce authority.

Also try posting a comment supporting a left wing policy like single payer Healthcare. That's a ban.

I don't really visit the sub anymore but I don't think this is true. /r/politics, last I checked is open to far left ideologies including single payer healthcare and basic income.

They don't let you post non mainstream sources. It's an authoritarian shit show.

They also don't ban for conservative ideas.

Yes they do. I challenge you to go there and start raising up a stink with logical but also be civil. If you actually make a logically point and get attention after a couple weeks you will get banned.

My reddit life got infinitely better when I unsubbed from /r/politics and /r/funny

They literally ban people simply for making conservative arguments ESPECIALLY if those arguments involve logic and empiricism and get attention

Citation please

I have another fun story: There was a guy on /r/T_D and /r/conspiracy who LARPed about working at Amazon and claimed that the CIA is using the cloud to spy on everyone, but his story fell apart as soon as people pointed out that he was full of shit. The people still ate it up because it fit their preconceived narrative.

Shit happens in every sub

The people still ate it up

They're still eating it up, too. This is currently on this front page of this sub.

I have another fun story: There was a guy on /r/T_D and /r/conspiracy who LARPed about working at Amazon and claimed that the CIA is using AWS to spy on everyone, but his story fell apart as soon as people pointed out that he was full of shit. The people still ate it up because it fit their preconceived narrative.

I missed that one but I could definitely see that happening. Most people here are more concerned with having an opinion counter to the mainstream, whether or not it makes any sense at all is immaterial as long as it's "alternative" lol.

hahaaa.... wow that is a doozy

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Looks like OP deleted this account after people called him out for being a snowflake.

Odds on that OP created a new account and subbed to r/politics

UNFOLLOW IT.

Why do we need to do anything about /r/politics?

Because a certain sub gets their feelings hurt quite easily.

r/politics?

Because /r/politics is a massive propaganda outlet for elite criminals via their surrogate David Brock and his 'journalists' over at Media Matters.

and you think there is something "we" can do about that?

No, that would be the responsibility of the moderators of /r/politics and the Reddit admins. However, the moderators of /r/politics and the Reddit admins have proven themselves to be some of the worst people on the planet, so the best we can do is refuse to be silent about the manipulative agenda behind the largest political subreddit.

if you think that will help, knock yourself out.

Okay, go ahead and dismiss the information war. This subreddit is irrelevant, right, so don't even bother standing up for the truth. Meanwhile, Media Matters spends millions to influence discussion here.

do you have millions to spend to counter them?

Oh shit, you're right! Resistance is futile! I suppose I should give up then.

What ever floats your boat and makes you happy!

You must be fun at parties.

I like people to be happy, so....probably? I typically bring the whiskey and hookers.

How often do you actually fuck hookers be honest? I feel like people that fuck hookers exaggerate how often they do it. Im just curious btw not trying to be offensive.

Zero times.

Speaking out against lies and propaganda of elite criminals and the Deep State makes me happy. It makes me happy when other people do it, too. I can't compete with ShareBlue's efforts and budget, but I will never stop resisting them by choice.

I wish you the best of luck friend!

sarcasm detected

Ignore it.

So OP deleted their account. I assume this was intentional. However, does anyone here have proof that /r/politics bans users for posting political opinions only? I haven't seen that to be the case at all. Typically if you sort by controversial, it's flooded with opinions that differ from the majority of that sub...

Make some points using logical and rationality only from the opposition and see what happens for yourself idk. And I dont see that many controversial opinions atm but I do see deleted posts.

Do you have an example of this? I'd love to see it.

They deleted the accounts. But if you dont believe me, make a throw away and try it yourself. Make some logical points criticizing global warming and see how long it takes you to get banned and try to be as civil as possible. Another hot topic is comparing Donald Jr's opposition research to the pee pee dossier.

Wait...you're claiming the mods of /r/politics didn't just ban users, but actually deleted their accounts??

Mods don't have the ability to do that.

NO i did not imply that, the users deleted the accounts apparently but I wouldnt even know that because im not a hyper reddit user. Like I said, if you dont believe me try it yourself for a couple weeks and see how long it takes you to get banned but judging from what ive observed if you make enough logical points and they get attention then eventually you will be banned without explanation. Also when I witnessed this the comments that got the accounts banned were on posts that had thousands of comments and the original post was from a liberal source critical of trump or something similar.

First of all, I apologize for the misunderstanding on my part.

Thanks for the anecdotes but is love to see someone who had actual proof of this

Why dont you try it? It doesnt take much effort to make a throwaway and play devil's advocate.

You'd think if it were that easy to get banned that there would be evidence of it.

If you dont believe me try it for yourself with a throwaway. Ive seen it and I know what I saw but I unfortunately dont have screen caps.

If you're so convinced, do it yourself and then post it here to /r/conspiracy, it'll easily make it to the top. I happen to think you're full of shit, though, which is why you're arguing that "It's so easy anybody can do it in no time but I have no evidence and I can't be bothered to get any."

I'm wary of breaking the terms of service that reddit enforces by shadow banning people but if I ever do see it happen again then I will surely document it but when users delete their accounts and comments after being banned then that makes it very hard like what happened with OP.

But yeah i would like it if someone else had screen caps or proof to present but i know that I have witnessed this.

The problem with reddit/redditors is they act like the United States is the only fucking country on earth.

The internet and reddit are both global, yet /r/politics is devoted to 1 country as opposed to global politics.

Don't be fooled, this is very powerful. SEO dictates which communities become the biggest, and having a good subreddit name certainly helps.

/r/politics should be devoted to ALL politics, just like's it named suggests, and in it's current form should be changed to /r/uspolitics or /r/americanpolitics

There is global r/politics but in essence youre right.

Its because all other politics basically hinges on American politics

It's obvious the intention of that place is to convince normies

Ah, a t_d poster.

I knew that just by the title. The Trump people are always complaining there's too many negative stories about him.

I have had exactly one good discussion with a Trump supporter there. Their arguments are usually childish with insults.

Just because someone is outraged with a false narrative and blatant propaganda that doesnt mean they are supporters of Trump. They might be anti-authoritarian and support decentralization for example. Normal people dont sit on reddit all day and may not understand the nuances of each sub and may mistake fake shills for real people and not realize that any dissenting opinions get deleted/banned. That creates a false narrative and makes a vocal minority seem like an organic majority. This isnt good for liberals either because it discredits their community as well when people try posting there and see what actually happens.

OP probably should have said "lurkers" instead, but falsely assuming anyone that questions the narrative is a trump supporter doesnt do anyone justice including liberals.

"normies" is a t_d term, I'm not assuming, I know.

They didnt invent that term anon. Im sorry but in this case you are ignorant.

Don't be purposely dense, it is a term they regularly use.

Defend the shitheads all you like, in the end they're still shitheads

Wow no need to be rude. But youre being incredibly ignorant if you think that posters on TD are the only ones that say normie. Have you ever been on 4chan and before you call me some name for going there, 4chan is actually more about hobbies and creative stuff but there just happens to be a political forum there as well.

Are you just going to ignore the fact that others in this thread already found his other posts in t_d?

Whos?

OP, the subject of this discussion.

The one who deleted his account after he was called out on it.

No one found his posts on T_D.. where do any of the comments on this post say that and link to the comments? If OP didnt delete them then they should still be there because this post is still here.

How are they able to get away with this

Free speech

Theyre currently shutting down free speech ironically. I understand that it's in their right to do pretty much whatever they want but r/politics doesnt deserve to be credible anymore. It's atrocious that r/politics appears at the top of the webpage and isnt reported on by mainstream media. A massive shilling operation that "colludes" with admins and mods would actually be a good story yet you will never see it on CNN or MSNBC. It's amazing that people do not demand more quality from their media sources and even if I agreed with the narrative presented on r/politics I would be outraged that political discourse is actively discouraged. People should want the truth and for arguments to be logically debated and dissected because if the argument is correct then challenges to that argument only serve to make it stronger. R/politics is a disservice to all sides of the political spectrum.

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Block that shit

They don't ban people for being conservative. Stop lying.

Go there and start challenging the narrative with logic and rational while maintaining civility and see how long it takes you to get banned. I dont know how to prove it otherwise but anyone that has experience or has witnessed this knows its true. Just try it and I promise if your arguments are strong and you get attention they will ban you outright with no explanation.

It'll take a long time because they don't ban for that.

Go ahead and prove it. You're claiming they ban even though their rules say they don't. Back it up.

I've seen people like you try to claim this for a year now and every time you get smacked down.

The problem is that using multiple accounts to evade bans could get my IP shadow banned from other subs besides the cess pool that is r/politics, but if i manage to do so I will make a thread on conspiracy. Anyway you sound emotionally invested in r/politics' credibility. I cant imagine why, and why the hell would I lie? I have "witnessed" people banned from there multiple times without them breaking the rules of the sub and that is simply a fact, although I lack evidence it is true and other people echo my experience so why reject their claims 100 percent instead of keeping an open mind?

Why not do an experiment yourself and find out for yourself? What do you have to lose if you love r/politics so much why not try to defend their credibility? I admit that it may be certain mods that engage in this behavior and not an orchestrated "conspiracy" but there is such a thing as turning a blind eye and claiming plausible deniability. It's not in their interest to investigate "rogue" mods if that is what is going on but it may actually be more deliberate than that. Why do you think this post received so much attention if OP's claims are completely false?

Are you really trying to tell me that r/politics and the people moderating that sub are actually trying to promote open political discourse? Why are posters that say rude things about conservatives ignored but even the smallest trivial "incivility" towards liberals used as an excuse to shut down their opinions? I'll admit that most of the bans i have witnessed have been with the excuse of incivility but I have seen people at least twice banned without a good reason other than they were providing logical and concise arguments proving hypocrisy in the left's narrative or challenging BAD SCIENCE like global warming and their comments received moderate amounts of attention despite being downvoted to hell. If the liberal arguments were so strong then wouldn't the mods want people to challenge them so that they can provide proof and rationality to support their points of view even stronger?

Again, you don't get banned for being conservative. You can get banned for being an asshole.

If you're getting banned it's because you're being an asshole. Meaning you can't provide proof and rationality, only insults.

Still waiting on that proof bud.

Jesus christ you misread my posts. I have witnessed people trying as hard as they can to be civil and then still getting banned specifically for being LOGICAL and RATIONAL. The mods cant handle when someone makes a good point. The next time it happens i can message you but users have a habit of deleting their accounts and posts after they get banned so I cant show you proof now but when dozens of people have the same complaint you might consider taking them seriously. It doenst help you at all to remain delusional and it doesnt help the liberal narrative either when the mods act like that because they are only discrediting themselves. Tbh I think you are afraid to try it yourself because your ego wants r/politics to be legitimate or something similar.

No, you haven't.

It doesn't take much. Go post that you agree with Trump firing Priebus. See if you get banned. You won't.

Another post of you trying to attack me thinking it will distract from you being unable to support your own claim. It's not going well.

Youre not in my brain so how do you know what ive seen or witnessed? The last time it happened it took two weeks and im too fucking lazy right now and tbh it doesnt even matter to me whether you believe me or not but youre lying to yourself. How am I supposed to support this claim if the users kept deleting their accounts? If i get around to it ill send you a message when it happens next time but this conversation is going nowhere and youre unwilling to even consider an alternate point of view but I know what I saw and other people that have posted in this post and others have echoed the same experience. Like I said, youre lying to yourself or you work for (((them))) as well.

Go make a post that's conservative but not insulting people. It's literally that simple.

And we both know you won't do it because you know it'll prove you wrong.

I didnt say 100 percent of the posts get deleted. I said that I've seen it happen twice and those people had accounts that were a few weeks old. I dont think they ban EVERY single post but I think that eventually if you keep making posts that poke holes in their narrative you will get banned.

When I get around to it ill message you when I get banned but this account is already banned so its a major pain in my ass.

This isn't really wrong. How much of a positive contribution users are generally factors into moderation. Getting emotional and popping off once in awhile is human. Constantly being a disruptive contrarian and treating others like shit isn't going to serve anyone in those circumstances they break rules. Because everyone breaks them from time to time. If every instance of every rule violation caused a ban, this sub would be tumbleweeds.

People disagreeing with you is not a bias.

Okay but when people on that forum say Trumptard and other rude and uncivil things about conservatives yet dont get banned that is bias. And the mods will ban any conservative post that uses even the most mild "incivility," or simply is too logical and gets too much attention.

I see both, do you have proof more conservatives are banned for it?

Anecdotal experience twice and a third person was banned for simply using emojis. And something you can easily see right now is that users are allowed to make rude comments about trump supporters but even the slightest humorous jab at liberals results in a ban. But twice i have seen a user being polite on purpose but the argument was extremely logical and they were banned with no explanation but the problem is that both the users deleted their comments and their account.

What facts do conservatives get banned for?

I saw a guy get banned for questioning global warming and another for showing logically that libs were okay with opposition research from Russian sources like the pee pee dossier which was actually fake which makes it worse but it was against Trump so they liked it but then screamed collusion when Trump Jr. was trying to dig up dirt on shillary, hypocrisy. I cant find the posts now but in the future I will make sure to screencap when this happens. I also saw a person banned for using smiley faces and emojis while providing support for a conservative argument YET if you go to r/politics posters there mock and are uncivil towards trump supporters and are never banned. They are obviously biased and will resort to outright banning arguments that are too logical and get too much attention. If you dont believe me try it yourself.

if you think that will help, knock yourself out.

You must be fun at parties.

Speaking out against lies and propaganda of elite criminals and the Deep State makes me happy. It makes me happy when other people do it, too. I can't compete with ShareBlue's efforts and budget, but I will never stop resisting them by choice.

Jesus christ you misread my posts. I have witnessed people trying as hard as they can to be civil and then still getting banned specifically for being LOGICAL and RATIONAL. The mods cant handle when someone makes a good point. The next time it happens i can message you but users have a habit of deleting their accounts and posts after they get banned so I cant show you proof now but when dozens of people have the same complaint you might consider taking them seriously. It doenst help you at all to remain delusional and it doesnt help the liberal narrative either when the mods act like that because they are only discrediting themselves. Tbh I think you are afraid to try it yourself because your ego wants r/politics to be legitimate or something similar.

Are you just going to ignore the fact that others in this thread already found his other posts in t_d?

This isn't really wrong. How much of a positive contribution users are generally factors into moderation. Getting emotional and popping off once in awhile is human. Constantly being a disruptive contrarian and treating others like shit isn't going to serve anyone in those circumstances they break rules. Because everyone breaks them from time to time. If every instance of every rule violation caused a ban, this sub would be tumbleweeds.

I didnt say 100 percent of the posts get deleted. I said that I've seen it happen twice and those people had accounts that were a few weeks old. I dont think they ban EVERY single post but I think that eventually if you keep making posts that poke holes in their narrative you will get banned.

When I get around to it ill message you when I get banned but this account is already banned so its a major pain in my ass.

Anecdotal experience twice and a third person was banned for simply using emojis. And something you can easily see right now is that users are allowed to make rude comments about trump supporters but even the slightest humorous jab at liberals results in a ban. But twice i have seen a user being polite on purpose but the argument was extremely logical and they were banned with no explanation but the problem is that both the users deleted their comments and their account.