I Found a question that can't be answered by Heliocentrists. Does this disprove it?
0 2017-08-03 by Beneficial1
- How is it possible to see Venus in the sky at night if its orbit is inside of Earth's? The side of the Earth that is night faces away from the Sun. Explain it.
(This is a conspiracy because we are being taught the heliocentric model by our government education)
29 comments
1 Definitely-Not-CIA 2017-08-03
Wut
1 321WHATTHE 2017-08-03
sigh Venus has an orbit far enough away from the sun, that it is still visible during the first couple of hours after sunset, or the last couple of hours before sunrise.
Mercury does this too, and we can prove that is is closer to the sun because the "viewing" window is much shorter than Venus' is; only being visible for a few minutes after sunset, and a few minutes before sunrise.
1 Definitely-Not-CIA 2017-08-03
Get your dirty science and logical thinkin' outta here, boy!
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-03
That's not logical thinking. Logic says an inner orbit wouldn't be visible at all. As we are spinning and approaching night and once it's dark , and anywhere on an elliptical orbit Venus would not be visible. I knew this would be a challenge against the active denial systems.
1 davidickewasright 2017-08-03
Gtfo troll.
1 HBombthrow 2017-08-03
Venus's orbital diameter is like 75% the size of earth's. Draw a point on a piece of paper. Then draw a circle three inches in diameter around it. Now draw a circle four inches in diameter around the point. Imagine being at a point on that outer circle, and look where Venus can be on that inner circle -- it can appear to be pretty far from the sun.
The sun is about 800,000 miles in diameter. Venus's orbit is about 67 million miles from the sun. That means that when Venus, the earth, and the sun form a right triangle, however big the sun appears to be, Venus can be appear to be at most about 83 times that distance away from the sun. That's far enough away for Venus to be above the horizon while the sun is below it.
1 TXROADWARRIOR 2017-08-03
then explain how i can see the moon during the day. you aren't applying logic at all
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-03
You explain it. This is the point.
1 TXROADWARRIOR 2017-08-03
i can see it because the light enters my eyes. explained.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-03
Ok
1 TXROADWARRIOR 2017-08-03
so it's settled then
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-03
For you I suppose it is. Simple answers are ok. I will most likely explore the idea some more until it's answered in a way that I can wrap my intellect around as well as what im seeing. It's just a puzzle to me.
1 TheWallOfTrump 2017-08-03
This guy thinks nasa uses cgi to trick us into believe the planets are farther away than they actually are
1 HBombthrow 2017-08-03
Hence Venus being known as the "Morning Star" (and sometimes "Evening Star") for like thousands of years
1 HideFoundHide 2017-08-03
Planet Venus viable all night long
Common model
Want to draw the dark side of the Earth and where it is facing to be able to view Venus?
1 Guerrilla_Time 2017-08-03
Similar to the way it's possible to see the moon at night when it's on the same side of the Earth as the sun.
http://faculty.icc.edu/easc111lab/labs/labk/Figure4.jpg
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-03
I don't see how that answers the Venus question. Please explain.
1 Guerrilla_Time 2017-08-03
The moon at times is also on the inside of Earths orbit, just like Venus. We can still see the moon when it's on the same side as the sun, just like Venus.
The light area is what the sun is hitting. Notice how you can see the light area, from Earth, in all the angles except 'new moon' phase, even when it's on the same side of Earth and the sun?
1 davidickewasright 2017-08-03
You're fu##ing retarded
1 CelineHagbard 2017-08-03
Removed. Rule 4/10. Final warning.
1 No8145 2017-08-03
Because it doesn't orbit in perfect synchronicity with Earth, it's not always (in fact, almost never) between us and the sun.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-03
But that doesn't matter. It's not like it's off to the side in some visible outer orbit. It is on the light side of the earth because it's an inner orbit. When it gets dark you wouldn't see it.
1 TheWallOfTrump 2017-08-03
Basic geometry explains this away
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-03
That's the funniest fucking thing I have seen all day. Look how big the stick figure guy is!!!. it's not even an elliptical orbit! And look at its arrow pointing to one little quarter of the earth like that's only dark. This was horrible. Please don't use this as your proof.
1 TheWallOfTrump 2017-08-03
The line is drawn from the earths surface, the stick figure is just to help you understand where the observer is.
I don't know what you mean by "arrow pointing to one little quart of the earth'. It's clearly half.
The elliptical orbit is almost a circle. Also, the orbit lines are only to show that earth is farther away than venus. They don't need to be accurate to show that its possible to see venus at night.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-03
Yes I get all of that. I get what you are attempting. I did the same. But it doesn't seem to work. There is no way it would be visible past a threshold of spinning horizon. Yet I've seen it for many hours after dark.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-03
Another thing, you see that straight line you drew? That line is showing you the horizon.as soon as the horizon spins to darkness , dusk, bye bye Venus. Because your line should be pointing down because you are on a curved earth. You drew a flat earth horizon.
1 TheWallOfTrump 2017-08-03
You see in straight lines.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-03
Convergence. The people in the southern hemisphere see Venus. Don't think you are done cause you catch a glimpse of the ellipse. You still have to explain how the southern hemisphere can see it. Or that area right where the arrow is.
1 8BitFlash 2017-08-03
OR you could just ask them to show a picture of the earth's curvature. Much easier. That is where the argument for a globe dies. There is no curvature, point blank.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-03
Yea, they ignore that too.
1 TXROADWARRIOR 2017-08-03
i can see it because the light enters my eyes. explained.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-03
Yea, they ignore that too.