Was Hitler actually the good guy? (serious)

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I'm not sure he was the great man from GSET, he had issues with a diverse range of people, not just the Jews...

However he hasnt a patch on Stalin for sheer numbers of dead.

As always history is written by the winners.

However he hasnt a patch on Stalin for sheer numbers of dead.

Who in turn still had far less than mao

And proves that communism is much more dangerous to the world than national socialism.

Not exactly, had hitler won the war it would be far worse than what either mao or stalin did

I seriously doubt that. He treated France with silk gloves for instance. A few years ago I've even read some new french historic research that came to the conclusion that some french elites even welcomed the invasion to get rid off the increasing influence of the communist groups.

Stalin would have invaded Middle Europe late 1941 if the German troops hadn't been so successful in the West. The final date for the Russian invasion was set to July 1942 which Hitler wittingly or unwittingly preempted in June 1942.

If you look at this map

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German-occupied_Europe#/media/File:World_War_II_in_Europe,_1942.svg

you mostly see military administrated territory which was militarily important. The rest were ran by local national governments as vassals or as allies until they imploded like Italy and its territories.

In almost every nation were forces at work during that time which had no real or less regard for human lives. But outside actual war action I can't see the level of mayhem to happen on the level of Mao or Stalin. You don't kill millions of people with just a few thousand death squads in Western Europe after the official war action ended.

'Silk gloves', they deported the country's jewish population (with the aid of Vichy of course)

'June 1942'? By that you mean June 1941 Don't you? Also stalin was shocked that germany attacked and refused to accept that it happened

Have you ever heard of the hunger plan?

Yes, silk gloves. What do you think they could have done to France if they wanted while the France exile government organised the partisan uprising and GB/US ran a massive civil bomb campaign in Germany.

Right, 1940 and 41.

The Hunger Plan doesn't surprise me during war times.

Hunger plan was meant for after victory. Not during the war.

Also from your previous comment, the einsatzgruppen didn't work because the people psychologically collapsed

Maoism and Stalinism are 99.5% nationalism

Pol Pot enslaved an entire country fwiw...so yeah, agreed.

How much do you or I really know about 'history' and where does this information come from? How can we verify it?

Who in turn still had far less than mao

But you never hear about it because the media isn't controlled by Chinese people.

Come to think of it, they control the media in China... and I bet you don't hear much about it there either.

That's primarily because of our eurocentric view of the world. Historians recognise it

eurocentric view

You still don't hear nearly as much about Russians, Ukrainians or Armenians though. Not here.

But in Russia and Ukraine (with Russian and Ukrainian produced media) there is a lot more attention paid to their history.

Thats not exactly surprising. People tend to care more about history of their own country/geographic area.

Also china doesn't talk about it because they don't want to discuss the major issues of mao. Technically they are still a communist country (though they aren't in reality of course). Just like you can't access anything about Tiananmen square

The idea of jews screwing up the economy isn't true. Looking at the wall street crash it wasn't intentional so blaiming the Jews was because of underlying antisemitism

Also the stab in the back (where it was believed Jews sold germany out at the end of ww1) is false. If anything the generals running the country completely freaked out and sued for peace (though the army had seen a collapse in morale)

Also look at the invasion of the ussr, numerous atrocities (e.g einsatzgruppen, who killed at least 100,000 jews in cold blood) and their plans upon victory (hunger plan)

Yes more died under stalin (though you xan argue that all of the deaths from the war in europe/africa were hitler's fault) but remember how long stalin was jn power compared with Hitler. Especially relevant since until like '36 Hitler wasn't strong enough within Germany to go that extreme

Looking at the wall street crash it wasn't intentional

Just one big happy accident, I suppose.

Not really. But it's a classic example of a market collapsing because people couldn't see the bigger picture. And it did lead to the nazis gaining power so not exactly 'happy'

There are many who like to act like the know and are "experts" on the man. However regardless of your view, it is instructive to hear the man's own words, and examine his political career via the lenses of his supporters. This well done but banned video does so. It has been mirrored here and is safe from the censors for now.

I've heard his own words, I'm not sure what you're meaning by this? Also his supporters practically worshipped him as a God so to only look at him through that is a immensely flawed way

People like Kershaw have spent their academic lives studying him

Kershaw conveniently skips over virtually all the material covered in the linked to censored video. But you are perfectly free to stick with Kershaw for the heavily promoted and narrow "wanted to revenge WWI with warfare" narrative.

But again, what do you mean? Should we just take everything at face value?

No historian ascribes to that idea of ww2 being just for revenge. There were numerous economic motivations and ideology seperate to versailles. For instance lebens raum, yes it was an idea by the end of ww1 but that was why the nazis (well one of the major reasons) that they invaded the ussr.

I always find it interesting when people try defending a very alternative view of ww2 they deliberately misrepresent the mainstream narrative

Do you even know the context for the Lebensraum ideology? It was born by the hunger blockade the Brits enforced on Germany during that time. Cause&Effect are important.

And it was to ensure the dominance of the aryan race. I don't see how that is particularly relevant to the discussion

Doesn't exactly make the nazis good guys does it?

I didn't say they were the "good" guys. There were no "good" guys on any side of this war but they followed a cause&effect logic and weren't some irrational evil bogeyman as they were portrayed.

Any political movement which needed to motivate its population for future war situations requires a certain "mythological" component.

The USA's is based on their "exceptionalism" belief, for the jews it's their "chosen by god" and racist belief to keep their group clean, the French had their "Grand Nation" and I don't think we need to discuss the Brits's upper class ideology. The US/GB elites created the eugenics movement which the NS party just adopted.

I see no real substantial differences here for the beliefs of all these nations during that time period.

No one tries to claim that what the nazis used was unique, it was copied from numerous other ideas. But the combination and the level of racial hatred that the nazis adopted was unique.

Also I would call their beliefs irrational. At the same timr you had Jews who were subhuman but also taking over the world. Plus the stab in the back was a complete myth

Yes.

For additional reading, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germania

He was an underucheiver

Ultimately, if God is in control, then He allowed it to happen. Hitler was a tool He used to complete His master plan. Plus, how many good things can a person do that get wiped out by one bad thing? And Mao killed so many more, how Hitler was propaganda of being most evil is crazy. Just remember the Rothchilds financed both sides, Allies and Axis and got all the banks. They are the most evil.

His mother was a maid for a Rothschild. I find that link very telling.

And no, he was an authoritarian war pig who was in bed with all sorts of scum. Stalin was worse but let's not kid ourselves about the freak.

Notice how a lot of their people were absorbed into our own military/intelligence through Operation Paperclip? Those people did awful things in that capacity.

He's the only Caucasian leader who spoke out against "fake" Jews (white khazars) and who the "real" Jews are; the negroes from the transatlantic slave trade.

For that he deserves notice!

No, he has rothschild roots and actually helped construct Israel.

Without Hitler, the Greater Israel project won't go this far and The European Union and United Nations cannot project their global tyranny that easily.

Guilt is the key to subjugating europe and america to waves of tyranny.

We can play a what if Germany won game. For starters, Israel would be chock full of Jewish people. I definitely see both sides being played by the same pro israel banksters.

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OP honestly we will probably never know the REAL truth.

Now Jews are running Hollywood.

And Washington DC and Wall Street.

Hitler's complaints about some of the Jew's conduct in pre-WWII Germany is eerily reminiscent of what is happening today. While Hitler correctly deduced their techniques, his solution of mass execution can't be justified.

If you are into conspiracy theories, a fairly interesting case can be made for Hitler being a Zionist agent.

there's nobody in power thats a good guy...never has been,never will be.

The Hebrew Israelites were. They were so good the Almighty God of Israel gave them his personal power to use in battle. The power was in the Ark of the Covenant. And only the Hebrew Israelites can use it.

I agree, but they weren't black. I surely hope you aren't a black supremacist.

Yes they were are and black people. The Messiah is a black man too. What's the problem? It's all there in fine print in the Bible. What would me being a black supremacist have anything to do with the truth?

You sound really suspect to be honest.

If tomorrow all newspapers printed Bruce Lee as a white man, wouldn't you find that blasphemous? If tomorrow Vladimir Klitschko was portrayed for whatever fucked up reason as a black man with 4 inch Afro, wouldn't you find it slightly odd? Or would you stay quite like a little effeminate bitch?

Description of the tribe of Judah:

Jeremiah 14:2King James Version (KJV)

2 Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are black unto the ground;

See what colour they are? Black

How does the Hebrew Israelite King Solomon describe himself?

Song of Solomon 1:5-6King James Version (KJV)

5 I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

Yep. He's black too. 99% of the people in the bible are black. So what's the problem?

That's not true. You guys are black supremacists and the biggest idiot on the planet. I know my Bible and read it in Hebrew. Black people were cursed. I bet you think Jesus was black too. And that white people have genetic problems and that blacks used to be kangs. You guys believe anything that boosts your self esteem for your race.

Only black people believe that, you can do 23 and me and get a genetic test. God's people were brown, not black smh... Pulling verses WAY out of context is a very common strategy.

White people do have a genetic disorder though. It's called "lack of melanin". Which race of people was suncream was invented for? The white race...if putting on a specific sun cream every day in order to survive the everyday beams of the Sun Isn't a genetic disorder...then I don't know what to tell you man.

Strangely enough, The God of Israel hates Esau, the father of the Edomite nation. Esau' s name means; he whose skin is wasted away. Hence the suntan lotion. Nothing taken out of context because the Almighty God of Israel doesn't lie.

And yes they were obviously brown and all shades of brown people in the 12 tribes of Israel. God's chosen people. God's special people. I use the term black because that's how the world ignorantly refers to people of colour. And yes the Messiah is a black man too.

I know you are right about many things. I have heard all the Esau information before except that you say it means "he whose skin wasted away" and I would like a reference for that. I never heard that before.

And before you go some rant just please answer the question. I probably know and practice more than your youtube videos could ever teach you in this regard.

Than after you answer .. rant on..

Hi Luckybella. If I told you that the "powers that be" have altered their translations would you believe me?

jump to the 12th minute and you'll realise why their time is up. They can't hide their secrets anymore! Shalom

I wouldn't put it past them but I will check the video and see what I think. I have asked for discernment and I trust The Most High to not let me be led astray so let's see.

The Hebrew Israelites were. They were so good the Almighty God of Israel gave them his personal power to use in battle. The power was in the Ark of the Covenant. And only the Hebrew Israelites can use it.

That's not true. You guys are black supremacists and the biggest idiot on the planet. I know my Bible and read it in Hebrew. Black people were cursed. I bet you think Jesus was black too. And that white people have genetic problems and that blacks used to be kangs. You guys believe anything that boosts your self esteem for your race.

Only black people believe that, you can do 23 and me and get a genetic test. God's people were brown, not black smh... Pulling verses WAY out of context is a very common strategy.