Assange said theys can prove that the leaks they received did not come from any russian sources, which would be seal the deal damning against the on going russia hysteria trump collusion story.

BUT can they prove it?

So can assange prove it?

We shall see. Also..the post is really about a hit piece coming out on him hours after the Dana R. story..(not gonna go look up the name)..speaking of which..do you find it curious that a few articles came out about the congressman right after the meeting..painting him as a Putin ally?

It's not curious. Because he's meeting with Assange, he's suddenly big news. Therefore, relevant or at least attention grabbing stories about him are suddenly worth more. It doesn't have to be part of a coordinated effort, it would happen quite naturally.

Like I said, his Russian connections have been long a matter of record.

You not knowing this isn't indicative of anything outside your bubble.

Source

Anything. Wiki for one unless you're afraid of Jews

As expected, no sources

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/putin-congress-rohrabacher-trump-231775

Sorry you couldn't type for yourself

politico

As expected, no sources.

Please yourself

The Putin connection has been following Rohrabacher a lot longer than the past few days.

Rorabacher's connections to Russia and Putin are well known and go back a long time.

Kevin McCarthy commented that then-presidential candidate Donald Trump and California congressional colleague Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Huntington Beach) were being paid by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy said in the recording of a June 15 exchange obtained and published by the Washington Post. At that point, House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) cut off the conversation and swore those present to secrecy.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-year-old-mccarthy-comment-that-trump-1495063901-htmlstory.html

You can listen to the audio yourself if you'd like.

A group of politicians behind closed doors thinking they're not being recorded talking among one another about how one of them is bought and paid for by Putin.

It's pretty damning evidence despite your attempts to spin it and downplay it.

Honestly, if there's anyone in the country who knows more about being bought and paid for - it's politicians. Its pretty much in their job description.

The fact that you're here on /r/conspiracy trying to defend these guys is really odd to me.

I mean, anyone can just scroll up and see you trying to spin this. You're not really subtle about it.

Of course there's no solid evidence of it. You're talking about corrupt politicians discussing behind closed doors being paid off by foreign governments. If there was evidence of it they'd be out of a job and possibly facing treason charges.

The fact that this is the length you go to defend these politicians is mind-blowing to me. Why are you even on this sub?

Politicians, as in multiple people who are politicians, were the ones discussing this behind closed doors. Maybe take your own advice and get your own facts straight, buddy.

What is it about this one singular politician that causes you to go through all this effort to protect him?

What makes your posts especially odd is that just the other day you were attacking Google for removing an app from their appstore. Where is your 'Google is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law' posts in that thread? Hint: there is none. Seems like you only apply that one argument to this Russian-connected politician and no one else.

this isnt news in the US, we already know

people have already linked you the relevant research :)

best thing is its leaked audio from republicans who thought they were off the record, perfect for conspiracy theorists

an insider who would know

why do you think they mentioned that guys name, of all the people to name

It'll take you about 20 minutes tops to realize that Rohrabacher is involved with the Russian Lobbyist that met with Junior, Manafort and Kushner .

That Rohrabacher has said he'd be OK with Alaska leaving the United States to join Russia.

That Rohrabacher is being investigated for violating the Magnitsky Act.

That his fellow republicans think he's taking money from Putin.

And now, that Rohrabacher went to meet with Julian Assange.

It all adds up to one hell of a damning picture.

So you guess what you'll find before you look?

Free thinkers, everybody

Very much so.

Getting called a shill for asking does dampen the ardour though..

Hell I won't argue with anyone looking for information, it's how we do it.

It's the automatic reaction sometimes though, hard to argue with.

Say what you like about me, doesn't matter.

I'll still call anyone out for predicting what they expect to find before looking.

Bull. Shit.

It's long been known that Rohrbacher is sympathetic to and connected with Russia.

Just because you weren't aware doesn't make it new.

Painting him as a Putin ally? Do you not know anything about Dana Rohrabacher?

He's been accused of being a Russian ally for much longer than you are describing. His own party's leadership has accused him of being a Putin ally behind closed doors. There's good reason for it.

So you're saying we should take the word of the Republican party leadership? I thought most high ranking politicians were liars.

Dana R.

You should probably read more about him

Rohrabacher has been an accused Putin stooge for years now. Paul Ryan and McCarthy were recorded without their knowledge and said he thinks Putin pays Rohrabacher and maybe trump....and that story is from 2-3months ago...his own political party/allies accused him of it in private...think about that for a moment

So to say Russian accusations just came about the last couple days is demonstrably false. Rohrabacher added fuel to that fire.

Now that I know Paul Ryan thinks it, too, I'm convinced. That guy is totally legit.

Oh wow! You got attention from a lot of the regular dissenters. To see every response to a comment be from tagged accounts, what a sub.

"AGREE OR GET TAGGED" your shill detection system seems touchy

im not the one crying about tagging dissent

For what it's worth you have almost double-digit upvotes, and I don't know why you are associating me with Dana or Republicans? This is pretty much exactly the type of post I look to downvote.

double digit upvotes?

RES score, it seems that I've been generally not finding your contributions shitty, not that I expect anyone to give a shit what someone random has them scored at on Reddit.

It's not just that every suspicious account responded, it's that they all had the same response. Like, how do I type the exact same thing with slightly different punctuation so it looks completely original.

I like witch hunts too

You're all suspicious,!

You seem like a nice person

Rohrabacher has been a known friend and associate of Russia for at least a decade, he was informed by the FBI in 2012 that Russian intelligence was targeting him, and he's currently under investigation for violating the Magnitsky Act.

Or this is a part of a preplanned amnesty for assange. They keep everything in congressional secrecy, tell everyone what to think, then bury the truth and restore faith in America and the media?

This has to be it. Assange was captured October 2016.

Most certainly. Looks like he wants to cut a deal though, which might not work out.

Don't be such a jerk to people asking questions.

If they want to, almost certainly. Just a question of whether these circumstances are exceptional enough that they'll break precedent and identify their source. IF the source really was Seth Rich, they might be at the stage where it's a moral imperative because of how successfully the media and DNC have buried that case, even when Seymour Hersh confirmed the leaked audio.

Hersh did NOT confirm the audio, he did the opposite.

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/08/08/a-new-twist-in-seth-rich-murder-case/ --

I contacted Hersh on Friday via email. He confirmed to me that it was his voice on the tape by angrily condemning those who he said secretly recorded him, without identifying them. He did not respond when I asked him whether he thought the tape may have been altered. Hersh refused to comment further.

Hersh released his own statement regarding the audio.

Why don't you post that?

I'm not sure what you're referring to. The only other statement I'm aware of (and can find in a quick google for 'seymour hersh leaked audio statement) is the one to NPR that came before the audio itself was released. Has he made any other statements after the audio surfaced? Anything that came before is less relevant.

Yes, he made well publicized statements regarding the audio after it was released.

He said its unreliable.

Searched for 'Seymour Hersh audio unreliable' and still can't find what you're referring to. Where was this statement made? All I've seen to date are this article from Consortium News where he confirmed it was him and wouldn't comment on whether it can been altered, and the NPR line about "I hear rumours" from before the actual audio was released. Would be interested in any other sources where he's commented on this -- just can't seem to find them. Link?

There were numerous threads in this sub about it.

Helpful...

I bet Russia did hack a bunch of shit, Butwhat the media has been running is a big lie. Both sides hack each other 24/7. I think people are oblivious to cyber warfare, or know one has put it into context that is easily grasped?

Not quite. Mueller's investigation isn't covering the DNC emails.

Huh?

Trump/Russia collusion is not solely dependent on the DNC emails. It's not even an avenue that Mueller appears to be pursuing.

And Assange is sitting on this info.... Why, exactly???

waiting for instructions from his boss

Already been debunked

Assange also tried to invent a fake disease to claim Hillary Clinton was unfit to be president.

Dude lies through his teeth for political gain. Anyone can see that he's a partisan hack.

Assange didn't "invent a fake disease," he was quoting an email exchange between Clinton and Mills. It's basically a sales pitch for modafinil. Can you link to a tweet where he actually claims she is unfit?

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23981#efmAFIAFlAICAImAI3AJW

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/25404

Not expecting that to happen, just tag the account and move on, fucking straight-up lying disinformers.

And you're so honest

Just reinforcing those bright and true colors of yours I see.

Some context: This is around the same time of her "coughing fits" and when she "fell" off a "plane." The narrative certain people were trying to spin was that she was "unfit" to be president because of all of this.

Given that context, the motive behind the tweet is obvious.

That doesn't seal the deal against Trump Russia collusion there's a ton of other evidence...

That would only disprove the russia hacked the election story. The whole collusion with the trump administration and russia is still very much open for debate.

That would only disprove the russia hacked the election story

Technically this would only disprove a single aspect of the russian hacking story. There's a lot more to it.

Then he should have done it a long, long time ago.

http://www.businessinsider.com/assange-turned-down-documents-related-to-russian-government-corruption-2017-8

They already "proven" it by showing the data rate by which it was downloaded was way too high to be over the internet. As much as I think Salon is garbage, im not sure how they let this one slip past their progressive censorship.

Salon article

Yup...saw this on r/all and came straight here. I'm sure that is completely organic.

Fucking incredible. I've always passively known about shills and media manipulation...seeing it in such real time is so...discouraging...depressing. It's easy to get fatigued from the constant onslaught.

What about the other way around? What is Assange knew about the piece about the be published because he was asked to comment on it, so Russians connected the most friendly To Russian American congressman and Assange to give legitimacy to him before the negative article was published. That could be the conspiracy too, and the fact that Dana was the one to meet with him gives this idea credibility.

So Assange and the Russian governement arranged a sitting U.S. Senator to fly to London, publicized a meeting, got multiple articles written and published all before Business Insider could post an article with no sources and a weak point?

It wasn't Russians that connected Assange to Rohrabacher, it was Alt-Righter Chuck C. Johnson.

Assange' spread statement said Rohrabacher reached out to him.

They also did not release on Russia because the documents could not be verified.

They release stuff that can't be verified all the time. Here's one that they admit in the description could be a forgery.

https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs_purported_HIV_medical_status_results,_2008

This one was not only unverifiable, but very questionable, AND already largely published. It would have been a big wasted of time.

Incoming new leaks!

I don't think I will ever think everything in October was hunky dorey. But, I dunno, leaks still make me happy.

I went to lunch with someone today that was explaining how lack of herd immunity is endagering his kids, and how glad he was that they were forcing people to get vaccines now.

I'm not really antivaxx, but he just spewed big pharma prop for an hour. It was gross, and I realized how far apart I am from people in normal society. And I wouldn't have it any other way. CT 4life

I hope he stays away from windsurfing.

Lol 'big pharma prop' aka basic biology

You are gonna go far.

"I am not anti-vax but I was disgusted that my friend sat there and listed off reasons vaccines are important."

You couldn't build bunkers this thick.

Here's my conspiracy theory on that. Vaccines aren't the problem. It's oral contraceptives. You can find some data on the web showing the relationship between oral contraceptive use and autism. Pharma itself pushes the vaccine narrative because vaccines make no money anyway and bc pills make billions.

Oh shit, now that is interesting. Any sources?

No, it's unfounded conjecture.

Well shit, that's enough thinking about that subject! Pack it up.

I mean, you can think about it and research it. I was just answering your question on whether there are sources about it.

There are plenty of sources about it. The question is if they are any good.

Not offhand, but I'll look around. There was one guy that had it nicely collated and organized and showed how when oral BC is introduced in a country, autism rises right along behind it. He also showed that in countries with substantial populations of observant Catholics, the effect is muted. It also explains why autism is mostly nonexistant in the Amish community.

OK here's one:

http://fathersmanifesto.net/autismbirthcontrol.htm

And a quick Google search shows that it's beginning to gain some traction:

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1SFXN_enUS639US639&q=oral+contraceptives+autism+&oq=oral+contraceptives+autism+&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i22i30k1.42382.44561.0.45444.14.14.0.0.0.0.109.1229.11j2.13.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..1.11.1052...33i21k1j33i160k1.VxBqZOc3QE4

That makes a lot of sense considering all the problems being on antidepressants during pregnancy causing all kinds of problems. Yep folks, we're not supposed to be artificially fucking with our hormones. We don't even know nearly enough about how they work.

I mean, big pharma doesn't lie about everything. There's very good science behind vaccines being extremely effective medically and cost effective. Just because a big industry advocates for it doesn't make it automatically suspicious.

Vaccines are generally good for people and very beneficial for society as a whole. That also makes them a perfect carrier for other bad stuff. There's no reason to still have mercury in some of them. The fact they call it Thiomersal to hide that there's mercury shows they're not being honest.

Assange is very concerned about a color revolution occurring in the US.

This is the answer. Things are coming to a head. People are about to start leaking real, damaging info and something bad will likely happen to distract from it. The Cabal and anti-Cabal called a truce based on mutually assured destruction, and the truce is now off.

sorry if this is a silly question, but who is "they"? I'm not trying to be a dick, but every other comment mentions "they".

In this case "they" are the unknown person(s) these hypothetical leaks I'm suggesting will implicate.

Watch this space. WL won't divulge the identity of their leakers, but what if they received a leak confirming SR. Would they release that I wonder.

I wonder how many knows that there have been two, maybe three professional smear operations against Assange. It was the dating site company that was uncovered, the government group flying to New Zealand for a shady operation that was sent packing by their government and lastly I think I recall some unfounded paedophilia accusations.

Assange has been under attack for some time now. I hope Assange keeps at it, they're great at spitting truth at the corrupt!

Merely a coincidence I'm sure.

Assange is a Russian collaborator... we just went ahead and stepped right back into McCarthyism didn't we?

no substantiated proof

And when has that ever fucking mattered here?

of course I ask for proof, just seems weird when someone in /r/conspiracy is against a conspiracy on the basis of the lack of evidence. What, now it's against assange, suddenly proof is important?

accuracy track record of 100%

Wiki leaks just leaks government documents brothers ,its not fkg.cnn ,bbc or newyork post which got framed ,edited or misinformed..by bias

Did you not get the memo? The narrative is Nazis now.

Worried? I don't know. He's a very divisive and controversial person and he has popped back up in the news.

r/Worldnews is a shit show.

Filled with partisan democrat hacks. I'm a fan of Jeremy Corbyn here in the UK. If Wikileaks and Julian Assange exposed foul play, corruption orchestrated by Corbyn specifically (not a fan of the party in general), I wouldn't start pointing at how they supposedly treat Russia different or how Wikileaks is under Russian control (bs). I'm not Russian, I couldn't give a fuck about them. If they're providing accurate information to do with my country that's all I care about. Notice how nobody ever questions the contents of their leaks, it's the source. As far as I'm aware the "left" who don't like Wikileaks are apologists for corruption.

The intel community of stupidity and deception will have to own the hack claim that has never made any sense with that much data. That BS needs to blow up soon but I have a feeling they want to cover it up for the "good of the country." The truth be damned.

Of course, released shortly after Assange says he can prove the DNC leaks were not from Russia.

What a joke.

I find it funny because we get a whole bunch of leaks from wikileaks that never see the front page or light of day. Things like Seth Rich was our informant and numerous CIA technology leaks. Then there is one thing about them not releasing some Russian information, which was already released prior, and its all over front page and people are talking about it.

The people of today can be so simple minded.

The worldnews thread is crazy. If you blindly support an article that provides no evidence of its claims and doesn't provide the chat logs, you get mass upvoted. Any skepticism gets nuked.

Business Insider also calls Soros a great philanthropist and are full of shit.

It is parroting the same obviously nonsense position ForeignPolicy's article took.

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Notice how nobody attacking Assange ever actually attacks the information he revealed, they just do personal attacks against him.

Assange was a liberal hero until he didn't follow suit and kiss hils ring. Now he's a traitor

we already know assange is compromised. its not a hit piece to reveal this. 'look at this adolf hitler hit piece I found in my textbook'

thanks for bringing it to our attention though.

I think those articles started appearing about 12 hours (maybe less) after the news of that (R) congressman visiting Assange. It was so predictable and yes, it only tells the rest of us the MSM are shitting themselves.

I guess we'll find out soon enough.

So you're saying we should take the word of the Republican party leadership? I thought most high ranking politicians were liars.

an insider who would know

why do you think they mentioned that guys name, of all the people to name