Nope they all left after the race riots in the 60's. They all live in the suburbs of Bloomfield Hills or secluded towns like Franklin, right outside Detroit.
3 billion is just the hard cash. When you add it all up its $15 billion for Israel and still $0 for Detroit, $0 for Baltimore, $0 for Los Angeles, etc..
Are you referring to how about 6 million Jews were murdered by the Nazis in World War 2, in the largest organized genocide in history, fueled by Jew hatred still around today? Because if you are then I'm not sure why Jews would like this number.
No, 6 million . I'm not making this up, look at the link of all the you tube vids that show newspapers long before ww2 that are already stating he threat to 6 million Jews. So that idea was already being supplanted in our news before there were even 6 million Jews in existence! Lol it's Jew propaganda.
First results: quarter million, three million, three million, one million, fifteen million, one million. I've gone through the whole first page and haven't seen 6 million even once. Are you familiar with the concept of cherry picking?
You put 'millions' and 'Jews' into a search. That's doesn't disprove what I'm saying. Try "6 million". But I have already linked the vids, so you are grasping at straws.
Ugh, that link is crap. In the link I show, in those vids they are mentioning this number in papers before the holocaust was even close to happening. Cherry picking something like that is easy because it shouldn't even be an idea yet.
Besides, your link is mentioning 'millions' and 'Jews' and the articles are about money, mostly. You are cherry picking! I have shown newspapers showing the "6 million Jews" as early as 1906 or 1915, I believe was the earliest.
I gave you a search engine. Search engines enable you to find information. YouTube videos enable you to find what other people think. There's a slight but important difference between things that are real and things that agree with you.
Anyone saying Detroit or any incorporated municipality even gets zero federal funding is completely uninformed. Local Public Agencies (think Transit Authority, Traffic Control, Water Management) get tons of federal funding for mundane things like bus stops and fire hydrants. Sometimes it's hard to pin down exactly how this money gets to the LPA because State agencies are often in control of the oversight on LPA projects and they have agreements in place with the LPA to see to it that the federal money is used to complete the projects that the LPAs (and local government) have prioritized. If Detroit is seeing zero federal dollars it has nearly everything to do with local politicians and their relationships with State agencies.
LA is very broke and very corrupt. They make it look rich like NYC on TV but it's very poor. Many people eat Raman noodles for breakfast, lunch, and dinner so they can afford their rent. It's a mess.
Or you know use the money for infrastructure, updated manufacturing for modern electronics... Unused land that was previously developed and could be used for new industry instead of spending it on a foreign country's military. But nobody wants that.
Pittsburgh re-purposed itself from heavy steel manufacturing to electronics and other tech so its been done.
The currency doesn't matter, it could be 1000 trillion $, which are just created on a computer screen anyway. What really matters are the weapons and research co-operations held with US. & Israeli "Defense" Contractors, such as Raytheon, Lockheed Martin etc.
The only measure preventing the Sionists of outgunning all the ethnic Arabian people is to lay a total embargo on the Israeli government and US. weapon manufacturers. Sadly the US. politicians, both in Senate and Congress, have stakes in these corporations and won't stop them from supporting the governmental terrorists.
So, we give Israel our universal health care. Nice. I sleep better, as opposed to worrying about my medical bills, knowing we are giving our universal health care to a country that has univesal health care.
The US should copy the Israeli universal healthcare system. It would save the US economy literally trillions of dollars a year compared to what the US spends now on healthcare.
Israel's 2013 GDP was $292.4 billion. If Israel spent as much as America spends on healthcare, it would cost Israel 10% of its GDP, or $29 billion.
American foreign aid to Israel was about $3 billion in 2013. It's not that Israel can afford expensive universal healthcare because of the American aid, it's that universal healthcare is cheaper than the monstrosity America created.
To put it another way, adopting the Israeli health system as-is would save America 10% of its GDP, which is about $1.8 trillion a year.
And we haven't. Until we did reform healthcare properly this is a mute point. What we are doing now is giving them billions. That is a reality Now. What we can do with healthcare is speculation and honestly deserves it's own thread, not this one.
Healthcare has issues, Detroit has issues, Israel has issues, and they're mostly distinct. Blame healthcare and Detroit on Israel and you're detracting from discussion of healthcare and Detroit. Want to discuss eliminating foreign military aid? Be my guest. Blame it on the Jews? Then A, you're wrong, and B, you're not solving any issues.
I am simply pointing out this system is fucked. Glad you agree. You want to solve it by making us into Israel, then doesn't that make you wonder why why fund Israel while our own city governments are broken? We are giving away our power to them. My power, our power, our taxe, labor, effort, energy. Gone to them, meanwhile our cities fall apart. Thats reality.
I'll solve this for you. I blame it on the Zionists who run Israel, and who have subverted the entire US Congress and much of the rest of the US Government.
Moreover, if you reject this, then you are part of the Zionist problem under which we suffer.
If the Zionist overlords implemented universal healthcare in the US like they have at home, they'd have $1.8 trillion a year more to wage wars with, no?
If you think what you just posited makes any sense at all then why don't you try to express your thought and reasoning in a fashion which is sincere and detailed?
US total foreign aid is tiny. It is less than 1 percent of the federal budget. The problems with Detroit have nothing to do with foreign aid to Israel or any other country for that matter. The problem has to do with an incompetent local government and political infighting among the two US political parties.
No offense but our healthcare system is intended to bilk us as much as possible, and that is why prescription drugs have literally no cost controls. "Obamacare" was a gift to the insurance industry, because the american people are meant to be milked like cows in a dairy for every nickel. It's all about greed, not what is good for the people.
Israel has a universal system because we give them billions of dollars. How much would it cost them if they weren't so weak and dependant on our money?
I typically lean towards the right on most issues, but when it comes to healthcare and education, I believe it is paramount to make them public and universal.
Preventative care is much cheaper than catastrophic care, and increasing the human capital in an economy will pay dividends over time.
Are you trying to say that universal healthcare in the US would cost $3 billion dollars...? Here everybody, have $8 and make it last to the end of the year!!
Not only does Detroit get tens upon tens of millions in a myriad of direct, federal to state and city grants, but they also get literally billions from all sorts of different federal programs. From Title 1 monies (>$1000 per year per student, and 200,000+ students qualifying), to SNAP benefits (hundreds of millions of dollars a year), to Medicare/Medicaid, Welfare, Social Security, Pell grants, housing subsidies, heating subsidies, EITC, unemployment benefits, fuel subsidies, and so on and so forth.
Oh so that's why the city is Thriving. It's a fucking welfare dump and you call that aid? Even still, you add all those numbers up and it's Not The Three Plus Billion we give to Israel while our own infrastructure is shit.
Here's one analysis that's a few years old, only counts a few things, and has numbers much lower than where there are today, and he still puts federal monies to Detroit at well over 2 billion.
No they don't, Welfare just keeps people slaves to the system and with no opportunity. That's not aid. They just give detroit welfare. See the difference?
If you are even saying because a person gets 150 bucks a month for food on a snap card, that is sufficient, then you are part of the problem.
I hate to jump in this late but it's really corporate welfare. We give them the money as long as they buy from lockeed or Boeing or whatever. It's a scam. Either way it's fucked.
More to the point, Israel should get jackshit. They can fend for themselves. Who the fuck are they going to turn to as allies? They have managed to piss off most of the world.
Uhh, dude, what do you want? It shows your post is a bullshit talking point. You can throw money into a black hole all day. But then you have to question the efficacy of trying to fix a black hole with money.
Flint has poisoned water. So no, it is not receiving the aid it needs. Israel gets better aid than our own cities. I'm not really changing my mind on this until detroit has improved Infrastucture through federal aid.
Israel has a really good deal going right now. You give me 3 billion, I will give you 2 billion in campaign funds. Net 1 billion dollars. Seriously though, Israel is a very important and great ally to the US. The laptop battery intel was their intelligence agency.
I didn't say anything about Israel, did I? We don't have to give anyone money.
If you hand a pile of money to Detroit it will be no different than handing a pile of money to New Orleans or a random 3rd world dictator. Might as well burn it.
Detroit don't increase GDP by buying F-15, nukes (sssshh), weapons, lobbying for USA in middle east, and most of all bully Palestine/keep Iran in a short leash.
System is fucked. Let's fix it. We'd rather Israel have some weapons then detroit have clean water and better neighborhoods. I can't believe we allow this to continue. Funding wars for profit instead of clean water for our own American citizenry.
And if they don't give a fuck about detroit, when the city you live in goes to shit don't expect it to improve until you show up at the governor's mansion with fucking pitchforks. That's what it will take.
What are you talking about? All those cities get more federal dollars than some states..Trump just sent 100M to Michigan for the Flint situation alone..
Not defending the puppet master state but this is misleading. Detroit receives federal funding and its poor residents receive welfare...but those residents are tax payers for the most part. Those residents aren't dragging us into Zionist interest led wars. Those residents aren't manipulating our politicians through AIPAC. Those residents aren't stealing the homes of Palestinians in what amounts to asset seizure. Those residents werent in NYC to "document the event". Oh fuck it....
United Nations was established in 1945, a month after the end of World War II. The Roswell crash was in 1947. Israel's creation depends on your interpretation. There was a resolution in the UN in 1947 calling for the creation of separate Arab and Jewish states in Palestine. However, it was not until 1948 that the state of Israel truly began to form.
And to think jews were helpless and persecuted yet somehow many things worked incredibly in their favor. Makes you wonder whether the Holocaust was an inside job.
There are reports from early 1900s were there is discussion of "6 million jews" tell me how do get the number of people killed before and event even happens. They somehow get a $38 billion dollar deal for 10 years where we support their military where Puerto Rico can't get funding, college students are in debt, we have a lack of healthcare, and numerous cities facing crises.
They're siphoning billions from the U.S., I'm starting to understand the Germans.
That's the dirty secret of Israel. It's financially unsustainable due to its small size, lack of resources and vast, freeloading population of religious fanatics who don't work. It requires a constant influx of cash from the diaspora and the US government.
We get that. You've said that plenty. They got the money they just haven't put it to good use. That's the state's fault, not the federal govt's fault. I agree we spend too much on Israel but to say Detroit got 0 dollars is an exaggeration.
PropagandA? Fuck the Jews, they have been using propaganda on the world since they started their 6 million Jews bullshit 30 years before Hitler. And you want to make this a problem? Fuck you! Why don't you address Jewish Propaganda?? Huh? Detroit has poisoned water, Israel gets better aid than our own cities. Fuck you for stringing me along some bullshit argument where you make me a propagandist instead. Shame on you. This is our country and you would like to see it fall apart in favor of Zionism you fucking sellout!
Just remember that Israel have 100000+ people working 24/7 around the clock to disinform, stear, and bring isreal in good light. Watch every thread. Go to youtube anfd find me a video that shows all isrealis and there atrocetys with 500.000 views. To find out who controls you find out who u cant critices
Funny thing is. In around year 2011/12 some eu leaders started to crtices isreal for what they are doing. 2013 comes the big muslim refugee invasion. Its almost as if they wanted to say "ok, you go against us and defend the muslims. Then here you go and now you try to live with them"
Pretty much, They attempt to destabilize any country that wants to break free from banks and the petrol dollar. They also destabilize the participating countries by using fear And social disturbances. Easier to control people when they are afraid of immigration instead of focusing on their slave masters. There is actually a lot of things they do just to keep us from paying attention to what they are doing.
It is not the Federal governments job to fix cities inside the United States, that is and always has been the states job. The Federal government is supposed to deal with securing the borders and international relations. That being said I do not support the funding of forigin militaries or infrastructure.
Like I said, it is not and should not be the FEDERAL governments job to help individual cities. This a Michigan problem not everyone elses. The reasons for Detroit's issues are local and state policies and taxes that encouraged automakers and other factories to move to other states like Alabama so they could retain profits. Michigan decided to become a welfare state companies didn't like it and moved, this led to less tax revenue and no jobs so every one who wanted to be productive moved to other cities and states where there was gainful employment. This decreased property values which furthered the erosion of tax dollars. The city then decided to tax goods at higher rates which led to more people moving. How is this a Federal problem?
It's a problem in our country so it affects everyone here. Let's fix it instead of arguing where the aid should be coming from or how the state government is faulty. This is the United States. We are all part of this country and if an area of it is fucked up its our responsibility to aid that area and fix it. Agree?
Or let it fail and stand as an example of what will happen to any other city that decides to go down this path. I dont care about the city and would rather let it be a ruin than waste resources on people who wont help themselves first.
Mine too, many drunken nights there after a show at The Shelter. Saw some cool bands there before they got huge. Incubus, Deftones. Used to do urban art and explore the ruins of Packard. Got busted at a Blind Pig, rave party. Early nineties was a cool scene there. Detroit will always be in my heart, I've since moved to marry a girl , but still have family there.
I am simply pointing out this system is fucked. Glad you agree. You want to solve it by making us into Israel, then doesn't that make you wonder why why fund Israel while our own city governments are broken? We are giving away our power to them. My power, our power, our taxe, labor, effort, energy. Gone to them, meanwhile our cities fall apart. Thats reality.
That's the dirty secret of Israel. It's financially unsustainable due to its small size, lack of resources and vast, freeloading population of religious fanatics who don't work. It requires a constant influx of cash from the diaspora and the US government.
I'll solve this for you. I blame it on the Zionists who run Israel, and who have subverted the entire US Congress and much of the rest of the US Government.
Moreover, if you reject this, then you are part of the Zionist problem under which we suffer.
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1 dickrichards997 2017-08-19
but does detroit have to buy boeing f15?
1 HempCO719 2017-08-19
only water, but who needs that stuff anyway
1 EricCarver 2017-08-19
You mean flint?
1 HempCO719 2017-08-19
Flint wasn't the only place in Michigan affected. Flint was the worst. (And still is, if I'm not mistaken)
1 NOT_SoonerChad 2017-08-19
Aint no jews in Detriot.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Nope they all left after the race riots in the 60's. They all live in the suburbs of Bloomfield Hills or secluded towns like Franklin, right outside Detroit.
1 mconeone 2017-08-19
You forgot west Bloomfield!
1 LightBringerFlex 2017-08-19
3 billion is just the hard cash. When you add it all up its $15 billion for Israel and still $0 for Detroit, $0 for Baltimore, $0 for Los Angeles, etc..
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
It should be "6 million", they love that number.
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
Are you referring to how about 6 million Jews were murdered by the Nazis in World War 2, in the largest organized genocide in history, fueled by Jew hatred still around today? Because if you are then I'm not sure why Jews would like this number.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Because they were saying 6 million Jews long before Hitler. And I have proof:
https://m.youtube.com/results?q=6%20million%20jews%20in%20newspapers%20before%20ww2&sm=3
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
Did they also say 5 million Jews?
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
No, 6 million . I'm not making this up, look at the link of all the you tube vids that show newspapers long before ww2 that are already stating he threat to 6 million Jews. So that idea was already being supplanted in our news before there were even 6 million Jews in existence! Lol it's Jew propaganda.
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
https://newspaperarchive.com/tags/million-jews?pr=10&pci=7&ndt=by&py=1920&pey=1929/
First results: quarter million, three million, three million, one million, fifteen million, one million. I've gone through the whole first page and haven't seen 6 million even once. Are you familiar with the concept of cherry picking?
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
You put 'millions' and 'Jews' into a search. That's doesn't disprove what I'm saying. Try "6 million". But I have already linked the vids, so you are grasping at straws.
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
You know, I think that if I put 6 million in the search box, I'll get occurrences of "6 million". I know it because that's how search engines work.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Then do it and report back with what is said.
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
I bought a box of cherries and all it had were cherries. Clearly the world is comprised of cherries.
1 Blend_Master 2017-08-19
Here's a link for future reference https://archive.org/stream/TwoHundredSixMillionJewsAllegationsFrom19001945/TwoHundredSixMillionJewsAllegationsFrom1900-1945_djvu.txt
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Thanks. Bookmarked
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
https://newspaperarchive.com/tags/million-jews?pr=10&pci=7&ndt=by&py=1920&pey=1929/
Observe how numbers other than six million Jews were mentioned. You're eating cherry-picked bullshit.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Ugh, that link is crap. In the link I show, in those vids they are mentioning this number in papers before the holocaust was even close to happening. Cherry picking something like that is easy because it shouldn't even be an idea yet.
Besides, your link is mentioning 'millions' and 'Jews' and the articles are about money, mostly. You are cherry picking! I have shown newspapers showing the "6 million Jews" as early as 1906 or 1915, I believe was the earliest.
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
I gave you a search engine. Search engines enable you to find information. YouTube videos enable you to find what other people think. There's a slight but important difference between things that are real and things that agree with you.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Alright that's enough. Now your going off topic and making this about me. My work here is already done. Ive shown what I intended to.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Alright that's enough. Now your going off topic and making this about me. My work here is already done. Ive shown what I intended to.
1 037_Engineering 2017-08-19
Anyone saying Detroit or any incorporated municipality even gets zero federal funding is completely uninformed. Local Public Agencies (think Transit Authority, Traffic Control, Water Management) get tons of federal funding for mundane things like bus stops and fire hydrants. Sometimes it's hard to pin down exactly how this money gets to the LPA because State agencies are often in control of the oversight on LPA projects and they have agreements in place with the LPA to see to it that the federal money is used to complete the projects that the LPAs (and local government) have prioritized. If Detroit is seeing zero federal dollars it has nearly everything to do with local politicians and their relationships with State agencies.
1 conspiracy_edgelord 2017-08-19
But how is LA, a city that gives massive handouts to illegal immigrant, broke? /s
1 LightBringerFlex 2017-08-19
LA is very broke and very corrupt. They make it look rich like NYC on TV but it's very poor. Many people eat Raman noodles for breakfast, lunch, and dinner so they can afford their rent. It's a mess.
1 Herxheim 2017-08-19
sure dude.... detroit needs more heavy munitions.
1 maiqtheliar 2017-08-19
Or you know use the money for infrastructure, updated manufacturing for modern electronics... Unused land that was previously developed and could be used for new industry instead of spending it on a foreign country's military. But nobody wants that.
Pittsburgh re-purposed itself from heavy steel manufacturing to electronics and other tech so its been done.
1 Dogetor_Doge 2017-08-19
The currency doesn't matter, it could be 1000 trillion $, which are just created on a computer screen anyway. What really matters are the weapons and research co-operations held with US. & Israeli "Defense" Contractors, such as Raytheon, Lockheed Martin etc.
The only measure preventing the Sionists of outgunning all the ethnic Arabian people is to lay a total embargo on the Israeli government and US. weapon manufacturers. Sadly the US. politicians, both in Senate and Congress, have stakes in these corporations and won't stop them from supporting the governmental terrorists.
1 petedacook 2017-08-19
So, we give Israel our universal health care. Nice. I sleep better, as opposed to worrying about my medical bills, knowing we are giving our universal health care to a country that has univesal health care.
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
The US should copy the Israeli universal healthcare system. It would save the US economy literally trillions of dollars a year compared to what the US spends now on healthcare.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Wow, you defend Israel in this whole thread now you say the U.S. should be like Israel. Interesting to say the least.
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
As I wrote a few months ago,
Israel spent 7.5% of its GDP on healthcare in 2013, OECD average is 8.9%: https://www.oecd.org/israel/Health-Policy-in-Israel-April-2016.pdf
America spent 17.4% of its GDP on healthcare in 2014. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_finance_in_the_United_States
Israel's 2013 GDP was $292.4 billion. If Israel spent as much as America spends on healthcare, it would cost Israel 10% of its GDP, or $29 billion.
American foreign aid to Israel was about $3 billion in 2013. It's not that Israel can afford expensive universal healthcare because of the American aid, it's that universal healthcare is cheaper than the monstrosity America created.
To put it another way, adopting the Israeli health system as-is would save America 10% of its GDP, which is about $1.8 trillion a year.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
And we haven't. Until we did reform healthcare properly this is a mute point. What we are doing now is giving them billions. That is a reality Now. What we can do with healthcare is speculation and honestly deserves it's own thread, not this one.
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
Healthcare has issues, Detroit has issues, Israel has issues, and they're mostly distinct. Blame healthcare and Detroit on Israel and you're detracting from discussion of healthcare and Detroit. Want to discuss eliminating foreign military aid? Be my guest. Blame it on the Jews? Then A, you're wrong, and B, you're not solving any issues.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
I am simply pointing out this system is fucked. Glad you agree. You want to solve it by making us into Israel, then doesn't that make you wonder why why fund Israel while our own city governments are broken? We are giving away our power to them. My power, our power, our taxe, labor, effort, energy. Gone to them, meanwhile our cities fall apart. Thats reality.
Solve it.
1 WhyNotManere 2017-08-19
He doesn't understand that some problems aren't easy to solve ant aren't fixed in one simple step.
1 Ickyfist 2017-08-19
He's not blaming it on israel...He's saying that it is dumb to spend money on israel when we should be spending that money for our own problems.
1 Dhylan 2017-08-19
I'll solve this for you. I blame it on the Zionists who run Israel, and who have subverted the entire US Congress and much of the rest of the US Government.
Moreover, if you reject this, then you are part of the Zionist problem under which we suffer.
1 naturalproducer 2017-08-19
When I really looked into it, what you just said turned out to be true.
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
Why do the Zionists care whether the Americans have a good healthcare system or a bad one? Or about Detroit?
1 Dhylan 2017-08-19
The Zionists don't care that Americans have a bad healthcare system - or that Americans don't have any healthcare system at all.
What the Zionists do care about is that every year they get Billions of Dollars of Welfare (i.e. foreign aid) authorized by the U.S. Congress.
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
If the Zionist overlords implemented universal healthcare in the US like they have at home, they'd have $1.8 trillion a year more to wage wars with, no?
1 Dhylan 2017-08-19
If you think what you just posited makes any sense at all then why don't you try to express your thought and reasoning in a fashion which is sincere and detailed?
1 ZombieRightsActivist 2017-08-19
US total foreign aid is tiny. It is less than 1 percent of the federal budget. The problems with Detroit have nothing to do with foreign aid to Israel or any other country for that matter. The problem has to do with an incompetent local government and political infighting among the two US political parties.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Yes our government as a whole is incompetent.
1 Yousunkmyredditship1 2017-08-19
I think you misspelled dramatically lower quality, with increased wait times, doctor shortages, and death panels.
charliegard
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
None of that is true. US healthcare is both the worst and the most expensive healthcare system among first world countries.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-healthcare-comparison-20170715-htmlstory.html
1 motnorote 2017-08-19
Israels healthcare system is many times better than the US. We have the dumbest one imaginable.
1 crumblingempireinc 2017-08-19
No offense but our healthcare system is intended to bilk us as much as possible, and that is why prescription drugs have literally no cost controls. "Obamacare" was a gift to the insurance industry, because the american people are meant to be milked like cows in a dairy for every nickel. It's all about greed, not what is good for the people.
1 Middleman79 2017-08-19
Or copy the UK system..the original.
1 Yousunkmyredditship1 2017-08-19
Charlie Gard wouldn't suggest that. Neither would anyone with three working brain cells.
1 Mike_McDermott 2017-08-19
Israel has a universal system because we give them billions of dollars. How much would it cost them if they weren't so weak and dependant on our money?
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
Not true, and I've probed it in this thread.
1 Mike_McDermott 2017-08-19
So extra BILLIONS doesn't allow them to spend more on their healthcare? You expect people to believe that?
They're welfare queens.
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
It can account for at most 10% of the Israeli healthcare budget.
1 Mike_McDermott 2017-08-19
Significant.
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
You were only 90% incorrect.
1 tatadoo 2017-08-19
I typically lean towards the right on most issues, but when it comes to healthcare and education, I believe it is paramount to make them public and universal.
Preventative care is much cheaper than catastrophic care, and increasing the human capital in an economy will pay dividends over time.
1 reb1995 2017-08-19
Are you trying to say that universal healthcare in the US would cost $3 billion dollars...? Here everybody, have $8 and make it last to the end of the year!!
1 Mike_McDermott 2017-08-19
Why don't democrats bring this up?
1 ermanito 2017-08-19
Who on earth upvotes this? Universal healthcare costs a bit more than 3 billion a year.
1 skralogy 2017-08-19
Univeral healthcare would probably cost closer to a trillion, but 3 billion would definitely fix flints water.
1 modtrigger3000 2017-08-19
The states take care of themselves and the federal government handles our foreign relations..I believe that's how the founding fathers intended it.
1 petedacook 2017-08-19
I've heard from a reliable source that the constitution is just a god dam piece of paper.
1 Wanderken 2017-08-19
Sounds about right.
1 _____42_____ 2017-08-19
Repost, and still really, really wrong.
Not only does Detroit get tens upon tens of millions in a myriad of direct, federal to state and city grants, but they also get literally billions from all sorts of different federal programs. From Title 1 monies (>$1000 per year per student, and 200,000+ students qualifying), to SNAP benefits (hundreds of millions of dollars a year), to Medicare/Medicaid, Welfare, Social Security, Pell grants, housing subsidies, heating subsidies, EITC, unemployment benefits, fuel subsidies, and so on and so forth.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Oh so that's why the city is Thriving. It's a fucking welfare dump and you call that aid? Even still, you add all those numbers up and it's Not The Three Plus Billion we give to Israel while our own infrastructure is shit.
1 _____42_____ 2017-08-19
Detroit isn't thriving for a number of reasons that have nothing to do with federal aid.
You do know welfare is aid, right?
No, it's undoubtedly much more.
Some new bridges aren't going to fix Detroit's ills.
Stop the lies.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
So you are defending us giving Israel this amount , while our own cities go to waste. I think we see Your side of the argument, Thanks!
1 _____42_____ 2017-08-19
I'm saying your post is completely bullshit, as well as a commonly debunked repost. I didn't defend the amount we give Israel at all.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
It's not bullshit, we give Israel billions and keep the poor folk in defunct U.S cities on welfare.
1 _____42_____ 2017-08-19
It is bullshit, because Detroit gets billions of dollars in aid more than Israel, and not $0, like you lied about.
1 RedeyedRider 2017-08-19
Sources?
1 _____42_____ 2017-08-19
Here's one analysis that's a few years old, only counts a few things, and has numbers much lower than where there are today, and he still puts federal monies to Detroit at well over 2 billion.
http://blog.heartland.org/2013/08/federal-aid-to-detroit-in-reality-more-than-2-billion-but-to-what-end/
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
No they don't, Welfare just keeps people slaves to the system and with no opportunity. That's not aid. They just give detroit welfare. See the difference?
If you are even saying because a person gets 150 bucks a month for food on a snap card, that is sufficient, then you are part of the problem.
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
What is aid then?
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
No idea, what does Israel use it for?
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
Buying military stuff from the US. Presumably a man would be much happier with a rifle than with a $150/month food budget, yes?
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
So we give them 3 billion and then we them weapons? What are you talking about? How is that aid?
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
That's why it's called "military aid".
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
So i suppose to aid Detroit would be to fix their fucking water , it's poisoned! Ok????
1 Evil_Skip_Bayless 2017-08-19
I hate to jump in this late but it's really corporate welfare. We give them the money as long as they buy from lockeed or Boeing or whatever. It's a scam. Either way it's fucked.
1 _____42_____ 2017-08-19
It is explicitly and unequivocally aid. I think the issue here you don't know the definitions of the words you're using.
1 LarryKleist711 2017-08-19
More to the point, Israel should get jackshit. They can fend for themselves. Who the fuck are they going to turn to as allies? They have managed to piss off most of the world.
1 comebackjoeyjojo 2017-08-19
The point is, your title is wrong. US "aid" (which is a vague term) is more than $0 to Detroit. Is it enough? That's worthy of debate.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
We give a foreign country more aid than we give u.s. cities that need it. Better?
1 comebackjoeyjojo 2017-08-19
Yes, that is better (much less misleading).
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Why, because I didn't say Israel?
1 comebackjoeyjojo 2017-08-19
Don't be obtuse.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Go to flint and drink their water
1 _____42_____ 2017-08-19
Now it's better.
1 Smoothtank 2017-08-19
Uhh, dude, what do you want? It shows your post is a bullshit talking point. You can throw money into a black hole all day. But then you have to question the efficacy of trying to fix a black hole with money.
1 ZombieRightsActivist 2017-08-19
Arab countries get twice as much US aid than Israel receives.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
And? What's your point? Giving away more resources to destabilize and rebuild the middle east while our own country goes to shit. That's my point.
1 ermanito 2017-08-19
So you admit that your title is bullshit?
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
I admit not everyone agrees. That doesn't diminish our problems though, so no.
1 ermanito 2017-08-19
So is Detroit getting federal aid or not? You claim that it doesn't. Do you maintain that claim?
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Flint has poisoned water. So no, it is not receiving the aid it needs. Israel gets better aid than our own cities. I'm not really changing my mind on this until detroit has improved Infrastucture through federal aid.
1 ermanito 2017-08-19
So instead of admitting of making false claims you simply move the goalposts.
Sad
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
So sad, go cry to mommy.
1 Balthanos 2017-08-19
Removed. Rule 4.
Warning, further violations may result in a ban.
1 FoxyRoxyMoxie 2017-08-19
This should be commented on every repost of this thread..
1 genji_of_weed 2017-08-19
3AD5F3-B6645
1 PM_ME_FAV_PICS 2017-08-19
Israel has a really good deal going right now. You give me 3 billion, I will give you 2 billion in campaign funds. Net 1 billion dollars. Seriously though, Israel is a very important and great ally to the US. The laptop battery intel was their intelligence agency.
1 GrayManTheory 2017-08-19
Even if you gave Detroit 3 billion they'd squander it with fraud and somehow end up with an even bigger more decrepit shithole.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Nice attitude. So that's a good reason to give it to Israel instead?
1 GrayManTheory 2017-08-19
I didn't say anything about Israel, did I? We don't have to give anyone money.
If you hand a pile of money to Detroit it will be no different than handing a pile of money to New Orleans or a random 3rd world dictator. Might as well burn it.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
You have lost faith in the representatives of these major cities, I don't blame you.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
I think one of Detroit's previous Mayors (Kilpatrick?) Is still in prison for racketeering.
1 TrpWhyre 2017-08-19
Detroit don't increase GDP by buying F-15, nukes (sssshh), weapons, lobbying for USA in middle east, and most of all bully Palestine/keep Iran in a short leash.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
System is fucked. Let's fix it. We'd rather Israel have some weapons then detroit have clean water and better neighborhoods. I can't believe we allow this to continue. Funding wars for profit instead of clean water for our own American citizenry.
And if they don't give a fuck about detroit, when the city you live in goes to shit don't expect it to improve until you show up at the governor's mansion with fucking pitchforks. That's what it will take.
1 BanMikePantsNow 2017-08-19
The fact that we have $3B/year for a country that was complicit in 9/11 while American's in Flint have to drink contaminated water makes me ill.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Thank you! I can't believe people even argue that it's o.k. see this thread for examples.
1 BanMikePantsNow 2017-08-19
I've seen it before. You know what is right. Ignore the hasbara.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Yep. Thanks for speaking up.
1 paypayspeepee 2017-08-19
What are you talking about? All those cities get more federal dollars than some states..Trump just sent 100M to Michigan for the Flint situation alone..
1 Loffler 2017-08-19
Yeah, this is dumb. I agree that we give too much to Israel, but I guarantee that Detroit gets federal cash
1 LupusRexVidar 2017-08-19
Jews own the USA, and use the Goyim to build their country.
1 airzoom23 2017-08-19
Not defending the puppet master state but this is misleading. Detroit receives federal funding and its poor residents receive welfare...but those residents are tax payers for the most part. Those residents aren't dragging us into Zionist interest led wars. Those residents aren't manipulating our politicians through AIPAC. Those residents aren't stealing the homes of Palestinians in what amounts to asset seizure. Those residents werent in NYC to "document the event". Oh fuck it....
1 StGabriel5 2017-08-19
Are these figures accurate? Where did you get them from?
1 _____42_____ 2017-08-19
They're not, and his ass, respectively.
1 hidflect1 2017-08-19
Fuck you liar. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/14/world/middleeast/israel-benjamin-netanyahu-military-aid.html
1 _____42_____ 2017-08-19
And show me where that says Detroit has all of a sudden stopped receiving all federal funding.
It doesn't, so fuck you, liar.
1 Negative_Return 2017-08-19
I swear, I'm the only one who finds the 1940s so interesting
United Nations, The Roswell crash and Israel were all created in the same year
No wonder I'm everyone's downvote magnet
1 pingveno 2017-08-19
United Nations was established in 1945, a month after the end of World War II. The Roswell crash was in 1947. Israel's creation depends on your interpretation. There was a resolution in the UN in 1947 calling for the creation of separate Arab and Jewish states in Palestine. However, it was not until 1948 that the state of Israel truly began to form.
1 agoofyhuman 2017-08-19
And to think jews were helpless and persecuted yet somehow many things worked incredibly in their favor. Makes you wonder whether the Holocaust was an inside job.
1 JQ_maga_1488 2017-08-19
wew lad
1 agoofyhuman 2017-08-19
There are reports from early 1900s were there is discussion of "6 million jews" tell me how do get the number of people killed before and event even happens. They somehow get a $38 billion dollar deal for 10 years where we support their military where Puerto Rico can't get funding, college students are in debt, we have a lack of healthcare, and numerous cities facing crises.
They're siphoning billions from the U.S., I'm starting to understand the Germans.
1 JQ_maga_1488 2017-08-19
who the fuck even are you
1 agoofyhuman 2017-08-19
who the fuck even are you
1 JQ_maga_1488 2017-08-19
A concerned Jew
1 agoofyhuman 2017-08-19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKplabTRuak
These are concerned jews.
1 ahtopsy 2017-08-19
What is the difference between a Israeli and a jew?
1 mcnealey720 2017-08-19
Why do we need to provide them with anything? You'd think they could hold their own. Sick of being the goyim
1 hidflect1 2017-08-19
That's the dirty secret of Israel. It's financially unsustainable due to its small size, lack of resources and vast, freeloading population of religious fanatics who don't work. It requires a constant influx of cash from the diaspora and the US government.
1 Kryptek01 2017-08-19
Detroit gets tons of federal aid. Any educated person stopped reading after the headline.
1 nliausacmmv 2017-08-19
Detroit gets billions, all told.
http://blog.heartland.org/2013/08/federal-aid-to-detroit-in-reality-more-than-2-billion-but-to-what-end/
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2016/06/01/blight-fight-federal-funds/85262372/
You can argue over if they need that money, or if it's being put to good use, but to lie and say they don't get any is just that, a lie.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Poisoned water. Still. Ill say it again. Poisoned water for years now. Understand?
1 fluffles724 2017-08-19
We get that. You've said that plenty. They got the money they just haven't put it to good use. That's the state's fault, not the federal govt's fault. I agree we spend too much on Israel but to say Detroit got 0 dollars is an exaggeration.
1 bri9and 2017-08-19
How much would it take to "fix" detroit? Doesn't seem like we are even trying.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Just fix the fucking water, right? What the fuck is going on, it's poisoned!
1 d3rr 2017-08-19
Just rename White Nationalism to White Zionism and Amazon will stock your books again. Zionist speech is protected, hop aboard.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Oh good good, need 100 copies of the protocols of Zion for me and my fellow cucks
1 Mrexreturns 2017-08-19
The us has no money to fix infrastructure but millions for war and overseas coups. Think about it.
1 GhostDog999 2017-08-19
The us has no money to fix infrastructure but
millionstrillions for war and overseas coups. Think about it.👌
1 overtaxedoverworked 2017-08-19
Detroit gets far more than "zero" aid ... how is this blatant disinformation so highly upvoted?
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Welfare is not aid. Aid is when you fix a poisoned water supply in your own country.
1 overtaxedoverworked 2017-08-19
I guess ~$2 billion in aid is equal to zero in your misinformed world:
http://blog.heartland.org/2013/08/federal-aid-to-detroit-in-reality-more-than-2-billion-but-to-what-end/
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
We give more to Israel , and Detroit still has poisoned water, btw
1 overtaxedoverworked 2017-08-19
Doesn't make your misinformed headline any more true ...
Is an absolute fabrication, period.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Hahaha. Let me get you a glass of flint water. Cheers. I love my headline.
1 overtaxedoverworked 2017-08-19
Um, no thanks??
Yup, misinformants are normally proud of their work to distract and spread ignorance.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Totally proud of what I've done here. Call it what you will. My thread stands.
1 overtaxedoverworked 2017-08-19
Well, propaganda is an art and most artists are proud of their work.
Lying disinformation seems to suit it perfectly.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
PropagandA? Fuck the Jews, they have been using propaganda on the world since they started their 6 million Jews bullshit 30 years before Hitler. And you want to make this a problem? Fuck you! Why don't you address Jewish Propaganda?? Huh? Detroit has poisoned water, Israel gets better aid than our own cities. Fuck you for stringing me along some bullshit argument where you make me a propagandist instead. Shame on you. This is our country and you would like to see it fall apart in favor of Zionism you fucking sellout!
1 overtaxedoverworked 2017-08-19
You can go on an unhinged tirade all you want, doesn't magically make your lie true.
1 Dalai_Loafer 2017-08-19
George Carlin was right: We are owned. We have have owners.
1 obliterationn 2017-08-19
Americans are so fucking deceived by their "great" allies. You are brainwashed into loving Israel, they are the true leaders of the USA
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
As an American I support your post.
1 bojay187 2017-08-19
Just remember that Israel have 100000+ people working 24/7 around the clock to disinform, stear, and bring isreal in good light. Watch every thread. Go to youtube anfd find me a video that shows all isrealis and there atrocetys with 500.000 views. To find out who controls you find out who u cant critices
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Exactly.
1 bojay187 2017-08-19
Funny thing is. In around year 2011/12 some eu leaders started to crtices isreal for what they are doing. 2013 comes the big muslim refugee invasion. Its almost as if they wanted to say "ok, you go against us and defend the muslims. Then here you go and now you try to live with them"
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Pretty much, They attempt to destabilize any country that wants to break free from banks and the petrol dollar. They also destabilize the participating countries by using fear And social disturbances. Easier to control people when they are afraid of immigration instead of focusing on their slave masters. There is actually a lot of things they do just to keep us from paying attention to what they are doing.
1 littleking12 2017-08-19
It is not the Federal governments job to fix cities inside the United States, that is and always has been the states job. The Federal government is supposed to deal with securing the borders and international relations. That being said I do not support the funding of forigin militaries or infrastructure.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
This is not acceptable! Funding a foreign country while neglecting our own is totally unacceptable.
1 littleking12 2017-08-19
Like I said, it is not and should not be the FEDERAL governments job to help individual cities. This a Michigan problem not everyone elses. The reasons for Detroit's issues are local and state policies and taxes that encouraged automakers and other factories to move to other states like Alabama so they could retain profits. Michigan decided to become a welfare state companies didn't like it and moved, this led to less tax revenue and no jobs so every one who wanted to be productive moved to other cities and states where there was gainful employment. This decreased property values which furthered the erosion of tax dollars. The city then decided to tax goods at higher rates which led to more people moving. How is this a Federal problem?
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
It's a problem in our country so it affects everyone here. Let's fix it instead of arguing where the aid should be coming from or how the state government is faulty. This is the United States. We are all part of this country and if an area of it is fucked up its our responsibility to aid that area and fix it. Agree?
1 littleking12 2017-08-19
Or let it fail and stand as an example of what will happen to any other city that decides to go down this path. I dont care about the city and would rather let it be a ruin than waste resources on people who wont help themselves first.
1 sHaDowpUpPetxxx 2017-08-19
No need for aid, just send more hotdogs. God I could go for a coney.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Can't go wrong with Lafayette
1 sHaDowpUpPetxxx 2017-08-19
That's my fave.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Mine too, many drunken nights there after a show at The Shelter. Saw some cool bands there before they got huge. Incubus, Deftones. Used to do urban art and explore the ruins of Packard. Got busted at a Blind Pig, rave party. Early nineties was a cool scene there. Detroit will always be in my heart, I've since moved to marry a girl , but still have family there.
1 Todos1881 2017-08-19
WE GIVE THEM $3.8 BILLION. $38 Billion over 10 years. Let's not forget that extra $800 million.
The real amount we give them is probably insane though. They have unlimited credit.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Someone with a Brain. People try to call me propagandist because they say detroit gets enough federal aid. You my friend just crushed them for me.
1 CrookedHillaryBot 2017-08-19
Detroit doesn't have jews though.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
Someone already said that. :)
1 comebackjoeyjojo 2017-08-19
Yes, that is better (much less misleading).
1 _____42_____ 2017-08-19
Now it's better.
1 Beneficial1 2017-08-19
I am simply pointing out this system is fucked. Glad you agree. You want to solve it by making us into Israel, then doesn't that make you wonder why why fund Israel while our own city governments are broken? We are giving away our power to them. My power, our power, our taxe, labor, effort, energy. Gone to them, meanwhile our cities fall apart. Thats reality.
Solve it.
1 WhyNotManere 2017-08-19
He doesn't understand that some problems aren't easy to solve ant aren't fixed in one simple step.
1 Ickyfist 2017-08-19
He's not blaming it on israel...He's saying that it is dumb to spend money on israel when we should be spending that money for our own problems.
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
None of that is true. US healthcare is both the worst and the most expensive healthcare system among first world countries.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-healthcare-comparison-20170715-htmlstory.html
1 unruly_mattress 2017-08-19
It can account for at most 10% of the Israeli healthcare budget.
1 hidflect1 2017-08-19
That's the dirty secret of Israel. It's financially unsustainable due to its small size, lack of resources and vast, freeloading population of religious fanatics who don't work. It requires a constant influx of cash from the diaspora and the US government.
1 Dhylan 2017-08-19
I'll solve this for you. I blame it on the Zionists who run Israel, and who have subverted the entire US Congress and much of the rest of the US Government.
Moreover, if you reject this, then you are part of the Zionist problem under which we suffer.
1 JQ_maga_1488 2017-08-19
A concerned Jew