yes

Been actively manipulated for atleast a year, if not more. They are getting good at it.

They were always good at it. They just started spending more time here.

Ah well, just shows we are on to something. I have come to appreciate the attention. Nothing much we can do about it, anyway.

Just harness the energy of the downvotes we are flooded with

Just keep sharing information. We need more people to speak out and share real conspiracy information, not stuff that was designed to divide us. We have much more in common than we think. If you source your posts/comments well, and if you get occasionally lucky, you can negate all of the propaganda that many thousands of people have consumed on a topic. It takes a lot of effort for propagandists to bring darkness to a topic, but all it takes is a single candle to light the room.

A few examples:

https://np.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/65vk6j/what_are_people_slowly_starting_to_forget/dgdiwit/

https://np.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/4psqmu/til_kim_kardashian_was_paid_to_post_a_selfie_on/d4nji6n/

https://np.reddit.com/r/Documentaries/comments/65d2mu/fed_up_2014_revealing_a_30year_campaign_by_the/dga36qd/

There are a lot more. Hopefully people here realize that their efforts are worth it.

Keep up the awesome work, you're a beacon of light around here.

Thank you :)

I think there are enough people in this sub who each have knowledge of specific topics that the periodic sharing of that knowledge could cause a very positive shift on this website. I think some of them believe they won't make a difference. Others think they have no chance against paid manipulators. A lot of us have noticed the manipulation on this website. It's good to point out, but don't let it affect your motivation. The forum police can't crack down on every thread every day.

lol that's funny because they originally set this subreddit up to get away from conspiracy theories but they aren't even satisfied to leave us alone in an irrelevant corner of the internet

Not sure what ya mean? They used this as a place to attract and contain CTs?

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5v4g75/til_the_worldnews_subreddit_was_created/

I forgot all about that. Shit.

This subreddit is like the online version of Israel.

Yikes. I wish that was a bad analogy.

I forgot all about that. Shit.

I think they're terrible at it. They just have the resources

It's was designed to be manipulated since it's inception. You know, there's that whole upvote downvote thing.

It's was designed to be manipulated since it's inception.

Same person who created r/conspiracy created r/history

You don't say /u/EricCarver

Hey Zeph, how are you?

Pretty good other than how disgusted you people make me.

Yeah, well, if you and your dupes don't like dealing with organics, then other subs may make you less disgusted.

Lol nice attempt at deflection /u/EricCarver

I wish I could tell you what I have you RES tagged as without breaking this subreddits rules.

If you know me well enough, you know I couldn't care less about what a user like you thinks.

Obviously Mr. 3 letter.

What is going on here

It's fucking middle school

Just telling it like it is. /r/conspiracy is dead and this guy is part of the reason.

What does the 3L P2P stuff mean?

You will have to figure that one out for yourself, I can't say. But I promise its not too hard to figure out.

Yeah I saw what it was from another comment

They're edgelording and making more great r/conspiracy contributions as usual. Just move on, you won't find anything of substance here.

I don't know what 3L means, it P2P means pay to post.

He's accusing people of being shills and he hasn't been banned yet

3L is 3 letter agency I think. Fbi, cia, nsa, etc.

Whoa I never did any such thing. Your the one whos saying thats what I'm saying.

You're* and your allegations are weak.

You must be talking about your own arguments and approach. You are just terrible at what you do.

Oh do tell me what I do, I love a second-hand experience of my own life.

You know what you do. I know what you do. We all know what you do. There is no need for me to type it.

Ahhh the ever famous make a claim and then don't back it up trick. That's a classic.

/u/ Tall_Trombone_Guy your comments are all the proof I need for my claim. Are you even human?

Well I'm certainly not a dancer.

I can't see how any of my behavior is 3 letter like or how it could be construed as such.

You are either 3L or P2P its beyond obvious

Be careful.

I'm lost.

HLSNAMEWASSETHRICH is trying to call EricCarver a shill I think, "3L" and "P2P" just being shorthand for other accounts he thinks EricCarver uses.

Except for the whole part EricCarver seems to be pretty respected from "both sides" since he doesn't seem to get overly emotional with his posts, defaulting to "you're a shill" like most users do here.

3L = 3 Letter

P2P = Paid 2 Post

:)

Went way over my head then. Why not just say those things?

Probably thinks he can avoid a rule 10 violation that way.

If not then its been fun while it lasted.

Not seeing the deflection, he addressed your hatefulness.

Right back at ya on RES.

What about up-voting ridiculous/ambiguous topics, while ignoring conspiracies that are getting proved or gathering evidence.

Oh yeah, they got that down pat too.

Disable voting.

This entire site is based off votes. If you want to delete that then delete Reddit.

User name checks out

Good idea!

then were just /x or /pol though. Which is not tragedy but different for sure.

Meh.

flat earth cough cough

lol

Nah but there was a shutter roll on the footage so the moons gotta be a hologram man

Don't get me started on Flat Earth.

We've been doing this for longer than you realize. Serve.

If they were, why is this post front page?

Its like a blender in here. And if you attack pedophilia, you get defenders that say stuff like scaremongering, what evidence?, and the personal what are you doing so great. Same words come from multiple profiles. Damned kid fkers

Meta

By RINOs and establishment Democrat types.

Saw a Fox segment on Gorka. Panelist used verbatim comments what is on conspiracy & other boards hours earlier. Political organizations and/or 'think tanks' are posting.

Post Proof or GTFO.

Develop critical thinking skills or GTFO.

He said panelist used verbatim comments. That is easy to prove, if it did happen.

Don't let your political leanings open you up to manipulation. Ask for proof, or be taken for a fool.

I don't have political leanings I am politically independent. Your comment was very dismissive and I was merely mocking your dismissive comment.

I was asking for proof of something that should be easily provable and this is a conspiracy sub.

Why are you here if you will believe anything that comes out of peoples mouths/posts?

If I told you Santa is coming to your house later today, will you start baking cookies and decorate a tree? (That is what a dismissive comment looks like, I hope you can tell the difference now)

If you hadn't added your GTFO I wouldn't have even responded or downvoted you.

Okay, and? What are you trying to go for here? If it's the language, I should tell you that this sub is no safe space.

I asked for proof of something that is easily provable, i'm not going to apologize for that

Nothing I was mocking you. That's my point.

I'd rather be mocked for being an asshole over being mocked for being gullible.

This place may be a little bit too much for you I'm afraid

I don't even know why your still responding to me its like you trying to defend or correct something.

Dude your the one who posted to "mock" me, without adding anything to the original conversation. Take your L and leave.

I just want to interject that in the time in which you requested "proof", not to mention the time spent arguing, you could have easily searched for the shit on the internet. Why is it if you demand proof you are in the right of an argument? This isn't some scientific fucking expedition or research committee. Click open an extra tab and look. If there is nothing roast him and say "a simple google search proved nothing. You are full of horseshit." And then, this is the important thing, move on. Otherwise do you own leg work. Most of the people here do anyway. Damn.

And where would I start, genius?

The original question only alluded some statements, yet none of those statements were ever clarified. i can't search when I don't know what I am searching for. So that was my first sign of bullshit.

Now my question to you is, how can you even manage the IQ to breath, nonetheless post in a conspiracy sub, where we are supposed to be critical of all information given? Especially when the statement can easily be proven within his original posts?

I've also noticed that the original OP never replied, yet I have these idiots defending bad logic like its their job.

Your bias is showing, you might wanna fix that shit partner.

Dude, the news about Gorka just came out. He mentions Fox. He also mentions a panel. From that, literally knowing nothing of Fox shows save some names, I would guess it was a segment on The Five over the last two days. YouTube it and quick scan talking points. Twat.

You would make a shit lawyer, anyone ever tell you this?

I'm not going to do the OP's job for him. Talking points are not "verbatim" (you don't even seem to know what that word means). I am not going to search thru transcripts when the original OP can't even do it themselves.

Why are you on a sub that requires a skeptical mind when you obviously just assume any info that conforms to your worldview is correct?

Fucking Sheep.

Haha, as an attorney you evaluate all options. You mean to tell me you think your opposition will tell you their argument or sources? Who is paying you to say this stupid shit? Sure there is discovery but who sits on their ass instead of being proactive. So are you a law student? Since your mind went there first I'm thinking you are a student or paralegal or some silly shit. Maybe a practicing attorney in some po dunk law firm but I doubt it. Gain initiative. Nothing in this life worth having is giving willingly. This sub is based off people willing to search themselves when there is nothing. God damn man. Seriously, fuck off.

Telling me to "fuck off" when no one asked for your opinion anyway. Classic.

Good night, you sheep.

You're username says otherwise.

PSAYou can think the DNC is corrupt and also think the RNC equally is corrupt!

Oh, politically Independant.

Of course.

Obviously. My favorite that never reaches the front page is anything about flat earth.

Flat earth is one of those things where some of the points are fascinating but the logic and reason on others just blow it apart for me. I miss ancient aliens and shit like that the most. Lost archeology is my shit.

http://www.genesis6giants.com/

Flat earth is openly mocked around here, quite often in fact.

Rightfully so.

Agree, flat earth is weeding out the dulls

Agree, flat earth is weeding out the dulls

Agree, flat earth is weeding out the dulls

I disagree, though not because I'm a believer in it. My own personal opinion is that people here should be encouraged to engage in critical thinking, skepticism, and challenge each other on even small details, but at the same time mocking each other, derision, bickering, and fighting should be heavily discouraged(though not by mod intervention unless it's egregious abuse).

It's always like that lately. Top few posts are popularized conspiracies where the opinions can have a wide range and especially a division .

Real conspiracies are at the bottom under a pile of negative votes.

Not all posts are good, I get that, but the type of posts that are popular follow a pattern normally on this sub. Now the things that get thousands of votes are abnormally brigaded. Don't follow the pattern. To the point I don't even read them now.

Anything that gets to All. 90% of the time that has some agenda. Sometimes it's a sneaky product placement, sometimes it has to do withering an opinion for YOU.

That's what was thinking and noticed too.

Yea, it should be part of the user agreement ...wat They probably hide it as an agreement to be Enter-Tained.

Lots of Arpiao populating the front page today.

Seems TOTALY organic

Yeah, I felt the same way about the "game developer tweets pizzagate is 'totally true'" post getting hundreds of upvotes.

I feel that way about you.

Cool story.

Likewise.

Did you feel the same way when any of those Seth Rich narrative blitzes were all over this sub?

Seeing as how that has always been a huge topic in this subreddit since before you people invaded. Duh.

"You people"?

Just wanted to see how biased you were, thanks for letting me know. Weird how the people who claim to hate pedophiles have a soft spot for someone who protected them.

You guys really love that talking point don't you?

Who? And what talking point? Not my fault you're biased af.

Welp, truth is the truth. Sorry about your username, that must be frustrating for you.

Sorry you can't see the light. Enjoy your tunnel of darkness.

Yeah this one sided perspective is getting fucking old.

All these posts about one thing are all over the page, do I agree with them?

If yes, this is awesome and we'll uncover truth!

If no, we're under attack! Omg the narratives! Bots and shills!

And you seem TOTALLY politically independent.

Interesting Read! Thanks

They just had a coup against the only two mods from pre-shill days.

? It looks like Flytape was removed, who was actively encouraging shills from /r/the_donald to come over to this sub.

Which two mods are you talking about that were here "from the pre-shill days"?

who was actively encouraging shills from /r/the_donald to come over to this

No, and that's complete and utter bullshit.

One of the first things he did was run to TD and complain about it.

And that's a fact.

That isn't proof of what that other user was saying. It's not like it's a secret that he posted over there or something. Pretty sure he acknowledge his support for Trump here, on a few occasions. Nothing wrong with supporting Trump and being a mod here. There are at least two mods here, that I know of, who said they supported Bernie Sanders. Mods can have their own political beliefs and still be a mod, believe it or not.

On a few occasions? Dude, some people are claiming that he was a mod at T_D.

I don't know if that's true or not, but I do know that he's started his own right wing sub and he's been pretty open about his disdain for Trump/Russia threads....... And his own political bias.

It's pretty damn hard to be a neutral moderator on political topics when you're extremely partisan.

I don't see anything wrong with it. It's good to have different opinions.

Yes, but there is something wrong with giving preferential treatment to troll/t_d accounts in regards to the rules.

I think it's silly Flytape it bitching about creq, considering Flytape AND DronePuppet were reversing creq's bans and post removals on troll accounts.

A lot of users dont trust creq

Like you always ask, prove it. Prove that's bullshit.

They are referring to a post that flytape made when T_D closed it's doors for x amount of time (in protest?). Members over there were flocking to this sub as refugees, and all flytape did, was basically say: "We know you are here, you are welcome as everyone else is, but this is not T_D. Respect our rules and enjoy your stay". That was basically it. That's was not encouragement, that was acknowledgment and being proactive as a mod.

Flytape was one of the better mods here, imo. He's a veteran here who knows how reddit works, and was able to keep shill/troll groups at bay, among other things. We shall see what happens here, moving forward.

Nothing you said was inflammatory or bullshit. Still you were downvoted...

Still you were downvoted...

Because he was telling the truth.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6c841d/attention_all_refugees_from_the_donald_youre/?st=j63pyda4&sh=7b86b709

ShareBlue has been pushing this bullshit for months. They have quite literally been conspiring against /u/Flytape for months. Go read the thread. There is nothing inappropriate about that post. They have spread lies about this thread, intentionally, for months just to further the agenda to remove /u/Flytape.

It's not like this same tactic has been employed before to discredit conspiracies.

I don't agree with how u/flytape tried to address this issue, but it's still a fucking issue. Saw this shit building for months and of course the regular dissenters are here to pile on the narrative.

And that post was followed by the mod vote post...

Flocking over as refugees? WTF does that even mean? You aren't bound to one sub on Reddit, the very concept of them as refugees is insane.

SC and Flytape were imo the only two mods who were absolutely above suspicion of being shills. I'veseen this happenin a few subs now. Get rid of the old guard, then bring in new mods who fit the narrative. Bet they move to add mods soon (and I bet I know who they add).

Ha.

Flytape would actively nullify other mods bans and post removals for clearly shill accounts from /r/the_donald. It's in the public mod log. Your feelings don't trump the facts.

You know that you're making a case for flytape, right?

Go to TMoR and find out which mod they love the most.

I'm making the case for Flytape being removed as mod from this sub for the second or third time, yes. Not sure what TMoR has to do with that.

TMoR is a sub that's dedicated to deatroying this one. There are 4 mods they like, and one they just love. Find out who they are, then compare that against what Flytape was doing.

Yeah, but TMoR aside, Flytape has previously had issues modding this sub, to the point he was removed at one point before being reinstated at a later time. It got bad enough, former moderators have since left in protest of how this sub was starting to be moderated.

To act like he's been an angel of a moderator to this sub shows you haven't really been paying attention to this sub.

I act like I trust Flytape, and I do not trust many of the other mods. There are 2 mods I believe are either SB or IS, and a whole bunch of others who are either rule obsessed control freaks, horrifically biased, or straight up pushing a narrative. I don't agree with Flytape's politics, but there's no way he's a shill, and for that reason I think he should stay right near the top of the list.

After the video fiasco a couple years ago he should've been booted from power; if you don't see how he was making those moves to consolidate stewardship of this sub under himself and eventually lead to monetizing it then you silly

He can remain as a power user; it baffled me back then how he continued to be given the keys

Dude, Flytape just started a subreddit for "Right ONLY" conspiracy discussions. How is that not shilling for a controlled narrative?!

Flytape has always been extreme right, but it's honest belief, not shillery. There are 8 mods who have made comments / posts openly supporting Hillary, and not a single pro Trump mod left.

Why does honestly believing in Trump make him above suspicion of being a shill, but not being explicitly pro-Trump makes all the other mods suspicious? Why does the benefit of the doubt evaporate if there's no support for your guy? I honestly don't get it...

Not every person who is critical of the president is being paid by Soros or whoever. And given the existence of Cambridge Analytica and the Kochs in general, not every person who posts in favor of Trump is above suspicion of being paid!

The whole shill or not argument can't just be about left/right, pro/anti because the fact is, the conversation is being engineered in some way from all sides. It's frankly ludicrous to treat the very real problem of social engineering via social media as if it's partisan issue. And Flytape's open partisan bias, admirable it may be, makes it impossible for him to address it.

Flytape has always been far right, and has never once deviated from that. He was around long before Trump was.

Shills are people who are paid to push a narrative. I have nothing against people I disagree with posting their views; I have a huge problem with outside organizations brigading and botting to push their narratives.

Flytape was extremely anti shill, and was in favor of banning them based on human judgment (which I agree with). Some of the mods have publicly stated that they believe shills have a right to be here too. Also, several of the mods are darlings over at TMoR, a sub dedicated to making this sub look bad. If you find out which mods those are, then look through their moderation history you'll see a pretty clear pattern emerging.

I have nothing against people I disagree with posting their views; I have a huge problem with outside organizations brigading and botting to push their narratives.

We've got common ground there at the very least. cheers.

If you can't PROVE they're shills , you're banning people for their beliefs.

There are 8 mods who have made comments / posts openly supporting Hillary

This is a statement you made in another thread, and when asked for anything to support it, you sent me on a wild goose chase down an unknowably deep rabbit hole.

Either provide some evidence to support the claim that "there are 8 mods who have made comments / posts openly supporting Hillary" or stop spreading disinfo lies to discredit this subreddit.

I'm not digging through months of posts to prove something to you. I tagged every mod during election season when they made statements of political belief; that's enough for me. If you don't believe me that is of course your right. If you actually care, dig yourself. I'll PM you the mods I have tagged if you like.

Flytape is a confirmed shill after he made his new sub conspiracyright. Doesn't get more shill than that.

Did we read the same post. Fly was telling the trump people who inevitably came to our sub to be respectful of the rules.

The age of spin.

The_donald explicitly forbids the criticism of the current political administration. How could you possibly imagine that culture would be a good fit for this particular sub? Why on Earth was the red carpet rolled out for them? (Again, not because of their politics. Because, right on the box, the_donald is a groupthink incubator and proud of it, while conspiracy is supposed to be the literal opposite)

so you would have asked them to fuck off instead of asking them to follow the rules...

Yes, there is little to no use here for members of a sub whose sole purpose is to pump sunshine up the president's sphincter.

you aren't the same guy who i was commenting to but sure lay out your plan for getting rid of these "deplorables"..

I wish there was a plan for that. Oh I know, , don't be scum? Deplorable is in no way redeeming.

I would have said nothing either way, the cultures are completely contradictory. Would have been welcoming to T_D users who came here and followed the rules/culture, and debated and reported those who didn't. Rolling out the red carpet for such an obvious culture mismatch was going to cause nothing but problems.

i didn't know we had a red carpet.

The rolling out the red carpet is a figure of speech that indicates an incredibly warm welcome.

Are you not able to respond to the actual content of my argument?

Don't play stupid. Many people at /r/The_Donald consider this their second choice community on Reddit. This is no secret. It's their choice where they want to spend their time. They were coming here, no matter what. Nobody had to say a damn thing. They were coming here, because we're not fucking idiots and we know what is going to happen when a subreddit shuts down. It doesn't hurt to remind them of our rules.

Just stop.

I absolutely agree, no one had to say a damn thing. Further, doing so is incredibly inappropriate because of drastic mismatch in subculture. The Donald's specifically forbids the questioning of the current Administration. The blind acceptance of power is antithetical to conspiracy.

Just like some users spend a lot of time reading stories on politics!

Donald Trump was popular as hell with REAL /r/conspiracy people because he'd talk about things WE talked about. Like anomalies related to 9/11, Obama fraudulent birth certificate, the JFK assassination, the phony evidence in the run-up to the Iraq War, etc.

He'd get away with mentioning things that were considered career suicide for any normal person on TV.

I mean, can anyone imagine someone (before Trump) having a press conference with Bill Clinton's rape victims?

Any new subscriber to this subreddit who claims that /r/conspiracy was ever against Trump is a fucking George Soros ShareBlue shill. Period. End of story.

I'm a long-time subscriber to /r/conspiracy (like eight years long), AND a subscriber to the_donald. I guaran-fucking-tee it I've been on this sub reddit longer than your ass has.

I'm the real deal. Anyone can read my comment history going back forever.

I'm disgusted at the shills coming on here, pimping their DNC propaganda.

"/r/conspiracy hates Trump! We should ban the-donald! Let's censor! Sheriff Joe is evil, etc".

We (the real posters) see through your clownishness. No one believes or trusts you, Soros-employees.

Go shill elsewhere.

Not a goddamned person on here thinks for a second that we hate the only guy out there, on a national platform, echoing the same concerns we have [i.e., Trump].

He's the guy who took down the mainstream media, and normalized discussions of the Deep State.

You really think we'd be against him?

Go suck an egg, astroturfer.

Well stated.

I agree with the point but unfortunately the volatility expressed is exactly what these shills and trolls are trying to bring out in us. It's hard to fight something so obvious when making a claim based on a long chain of behavior that is able to be referenced is considered a bannable offense.

I agree with you. This exactly what they are trying to do to us. Make us divide on purpose. Unfortunately most fail to see through the charade being presented. How sad it is what we see going on in society today and expressed on the news feeds being fed to us on purpose. Stay strong. The good will always overcome.

So all Donald Trump had to do was sweet talk some classic conspiracies to get a traditionally anti-government conspiracy community to suddenly trust and even defend the government.

And if you don't suddenly trust and defend the government, simply because Donald Trump decided to grandstand with acts like a press conference with people who claim they were raped, you're a shill. Got it.

Good to know what the official t_d narrative is at the moment, anyways.

Hope mods to anything and everything to prevent this place to become r.politics 2.0. that place is cancer

Why not advocate for not /r/politics2.0 AND not /r/the_donald2.0?

Because td is contained, but leftist subs are running rampant all over my fro tpage, with 20 subs flooding it with same shit every day

It's centrist propaganda. You're the one who moved right.

Leftist subs like: /r/The_Donald, /r/StillSandersForPres, /r/Kossacks_for_Sanders, /r/uncensorednews, /r/WayOfTheBern, /r/USNEWS, /r/Republican, /r/conservatives, /r/C_S_T, /r/SandersMedia, /r/altnewz, /r/WorldNewsRevenge, /r/POLITIC, /r/HillaryForPrison, /r/TruthLeaks, /r/usanews, /r/TumblrInAction, /r/KotakuInAction, /r/Physical_Removal, /r/WikiLeaks, /r/shills, /r/conspiracyundone, /r/conspiracyright

?

What about, typical fencing response by lefties

What about her emails???

Buttery males

You just don't know how to use the site then.

Ffs why not both?

Trump has been dishing in so-caled "conspiracy theories" for decades. He hasn't changed at all.

It's not something he put on for the campaign.

He didn't do the Hillary Clinton focus group crap. He doesn't change based on what "strategists" tell him.

It's why the Establishment GOP is still enraged at him. He's still Tweeting. He's still being EXACTLY who he's been for years.

Why do you think they're ranting about him not being "Presidential"?

It's because he didn't suddenly acquire a new personality that handlers and focus groups told him to put on.

Which is why Hillary Clinton was so toxic. She came across as robotic, scripted: Fake.

Trump, for all his warts, is exactly who Trump has always been.

This kind of shit proved how low this sub has gone

Trump was more popular than Hillary but the majority of REAL /r/conspiracy users thought that he was as much an establishment candidate as anyone else. The REAL /r/conspiracy users saw his connections with the Clintons and other elite. I remember clearly the influx of Trump supporters on this sub before the election but the people who'd been here the whole time repeteadly emphasized his establishment connections and past.

Absolutely. And now that he's got the power to release that information and really doesn't give a shit, it's almost like he used you as a political pawn.

Brilliant strategy, targeting 4channers and conspiracy nuts, really it was, but it's just political smoke blowing.

Hell even mods of a second rate sub get corrupted by power. The things people will do for power is nuts

Or: It's almost as if he isn't working in a vacuum and has to tread very carefully, lest he get assassinated like Kennedy.

The media is signaling every day that it's alright to kill him. They constantly run articles about how Trump (despite not taking a salary) is so expensive that the secret service can't afford to protect him. See? So if a crazed lone gunman got in to shoot him, it would really be Trump's own fault, right?

I would hope you would wake up eventually, yes. He's not what you want to believe. He could have declassified anything if he wanted.

the_dump users are cancer

Wow, you really drank the Kool aid and even went back for seconds.

This isn't true.

LOL okay

Glad you posted this.. helps others to see exactly through the bullshit. A Trump supporter upset with pardoning Arpaio.. lol. Like.. you'd really have to look hard to find that.

Not really

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Every goddamn comment deleted except the ones saying No? Looks like another weak attempt at a narrative.

yeah, im sure thats why the mods nuked the post, because it deviated from their carefully crafted narrative that many trump supporters dont agree with that decision.

don't you get it. you are the flatearthers. the crazy ones.

That's name-calling.. an error in reasoning. No point in arguing with you until you make a valid argument.

I don't want to argue with you, I just wanted to give you a hint to think about.

It's sad to watch happen in real time.

Don't let it reduce your interest in the issues; fight to make your points and speak your mind here, but don't forget to seek out other forums of discussion/analysis.

Absolutely right. Its really obvious to most of us who frequent the sub. Expect those complicit in the manipulation to come argue with you or dismiss your concerns in this thread in 3...2...1...

/R/Conspiracy has been compromised. 14 new mods last night. This place is no longer safe. Eject

Afaik none of the mods are new. The only change was the removal of FlyTape.

And he resigned himself when his coup failed.

You mean it's not longer a... safe space?

No new mods. It was an attempted coup by flytape and sarah. sarah removed them and then they were reinstated.

No new mods were added, the mods who were purged in retaliation were restored. You should really stop pushing this lie.

I actually didn't know this. Cheers

Thank you for being open to new information, and I don't mean that in a snide or shitty way at all. Much respect. :)

So what you are saying is that this subreddit is being manipulated via bots who upvote content and downvote content? That certain posts can reach the top and be seen more widely through bots upvoting. While other posts, who may have legitimate content, can be downvoted enough so most people won't be able see them? Bot manipulation.

Reddit as a whole is like this. Instead of deleting posts or banning content or opinions one could use bots to manipulate what a viewer does or doesn't see.

Yeah it's pretty noticeable when this sub gets brigaded. It usually happens right after the MSM attempts to fight back. It wasn't a good look for them when they basically endorsed the actions of Antifa.

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there is certainly a narrative being pushed around here.. that is all im saying..

Yeah, you are pushing a narrative. We get it.

Well this is just getting retarded.

Every fucking time something negative about Trump hits the top, a post like this follows. >1000 isn't even that unusual since the algorithm was changed. Look at top for the month.

If anything is being bot voted up, it's the Seth Rich "reminder" posts that we get flooded with every time Trump does something rally bad.

This sub really isn't as active as subs that hit r/all a lot. They get noticed here.

I'm more inclined to believe the obvious: that a forum populated by conspiracy theorists is likely to have high incidences of users believing that they see bots regardless of whether or not there are bots.

In other words, theorists gonna theorize.

Sure. Paranoia is a big deal here, but anomalies are always noticed; especially if they break patterns.

Or people are genuinely upset about someone who campaigned on law and order pardoning someone rightfully convicted. Someone who called his prison's 'Concentration Camps'.

Botty bot bot

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These fake accounts are getting funny by azn_gay_conservative, well I am sure you are one of those 3 things.

It appears that anyone using the format word_word_word is a bot to push Clinton/soros agenda

My biggest fear is how it somehow became pro-establishment over night. Posting on alt. account just in case.

This post is horrible. You gave absolutely zero evidence and presented it as proof. You don't even specify which post you are referring to ('the top post' means nothing as the top post is changing all the time and depends how you sort the sub)

My favorite part is how he talks about the narrative being pushed.. As he pushes his and even throws in a deflection to Obama.

I'm a bot, bleep, bloop. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit:

• [/r/betternews] r/conspiracy is being manipulated

^{If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads. (Info / Contact)}

Why does everyone focus so much on upvotes? Honestly, I have never paid attention to how many upvotes or downvotes a post or comment gets.

Because people are like herds of sheep. They tend to believe the most upvoted comments because they don't want to feel like "holy shit everybody believes this but me. Must be true then." So like the sheep they are they just follow along. That why paid upvotes pushing propaganda, agendas and narratives is such a big deal, and why this sub is a war zone. I sort by controversial, those are more often than not the organic users, while the guys at the top are paid for to push agendas. One day this sub is pro trump neo-Nazi, the next its an antifa-lovin' crowd. It scares people off and associates us with them. Anyone that supports trump isn't "woke", and vice versa. This sub is anti-establishment and always will be. None of us that we're here pre-election buy that trump is the savior to politics from the outside, and that he's one of us. lol he's a billionaire.

Oh, don't worry about me. Like I said, I don't even pay attention to upvotes. I always look at the "new" page and I always look at the "top", "hot", and "controversial" pages too. I make sure I don't miss anything that might be of interest to me.

By using vote manipulation you can easily control the content. Vote manipulate down what you want to suppress, vote manipulate up the propaganda you want to push.

We see this here every day, it is a gigantic problem for Reddit as a whole and it is what has killed the site.

Oh no, people are being critical of Trump and right-wingers. Quick, make a post about how /r/conspiracy has been compromised!

It has been compromised. We are forbidden from calling out shills, even though they are so fucking obvious because they fail at life. Just like they banned it over at /r/politics.

Prove the shills and the mods will take action. Throw witchunts and don't don't cry when you come up empty handed.

Wow wow so aggressive, it's almost like you don't have this sub's welfare at heart :O

The concept of burden of proof is not idiot proof, I see. If it were, you would understand that it rests on he who has more to prove. You're not fooling anyone, so why not cut the act? Not accusing you of anything, of course;)

Outed myself? As what, an anti trump antiaithoritarian? Bring it on mo fo.

Lol, accusing users of being shills has been forbidden for a long time. You'd know that if you'd been here longer than T_D has been around

It's always reassuring to see a few hours after these garbage posts percolate up, all the usual users or common sense replies override the dumb dumbs who think they're being super sneaky and blending in

As a neutral user, I would say there are shills on both sides and both sides suck, get it in your head that other neutral users don't like trump or most of the bullshit trumpeepees spam.

We are forbidden from calling out shills

I wonder why.

they are so fucking obvious

Oh, right. That's why.

You're not allowed to call people "shills" because if you were allowed to call people "shills", you'd be calling literally everyone a shill. Because you think it's obvious.

No, I wouldn't just call everyone a shill. I only do that when it's blatantly obvious, when the user is acting like a third party, neither a Democrat nor a republican (or foreign versions of them), and they don't seem to care about the welfare of the sub.

They react with hostility when I mention shills - the argument between actual users is not whether there are shills here, but how dominated the conversation is.

when the user is acting like a third party, neither a Democrat nor a republican

Uh, you do realize there are people who don't subscribe to the ideologies of either of the two major political parties, right?

From a 10 month old account in a sub where there's been a strong following for years! Act like you've been here all along and hope they don't check your profile once you submit the thread!

I'm more concerned about all the posts that say the 9/11 official story is accurate and true.

Yup, I came in here today going, wait is r/politics?

People don't like Trump. God this is such a crazy alt right sub now. If posts opposing Trump reach the top, that just means people oppose Trump. Sorry it doesn't conform to your fake news narrative

Who would have thought that a t_d poster going for the all time great but what about obama argument some quality content we have here.

REDDIT has been compromised. Not surprising.

Ya think!

Why is it so difficult to fathom that a person could have voted for Trump, but not like Arpaio?

Why is it so difficult to accept the fact that a person could have voted for Trump, but now be unhappy with his performance as president? Are Trump voters not allowed to change their minds? Are we required to stay loyal to the emperor god, no matter how shitty a job he's doing? Or are atrump voters allowed to be intaellectually honest and have opinions about trump that differ from those on T_D?

And, yeah, it's entirely possible for someone to be anti- illegal immigations and STILL hate Arpaio for his human rights abuses.

Not everyones values fit into a neat little box. That's not a conspiracy.

This wont get as many upvotes than an anti trump post bc reddit is now media matters propaganda

I noticed this.

gasp it's a conspiracy in a conspiracy...what a twist

Ehehm.. reeeeeeeeee. Shut your stupid cult lies back up in the vault.

People from other subs can upvote threads if it comes to them (like they look at rising on r/all )

Yep

Notice how when there's a Hillary/Obama/antifa/Sanders/leftist post, the comments are always bashing OP, attacking this sub, mocking conspiracy theorists or just generally trying to derail the conversation.

Yet when there's a Trump/Russia post, suddenly all the comments are "organically" discussing the conspiracy and any dissenting comments are downvoted to the bottom and mocked.

Obvious this sub is trying to be taken over by the same subs that have taken over most of reddit post-election.

You got that right.

President Obama didn't pardon thousands. He pardoned 212 people. He did commute a lot of sentences, still not thousands.

No it's just being called out on it's partisan bullshit as of late. If this sub hadn't become an offshoot of TD you probably wouldn't be seeing this backlash.

This.

Can't have any sub outside of the "alt right Nazi racist mysoginist antisemite t_d" go against the hive narrative.

Soros

It's Social Media viewed by millions, that has changed numerous times on the way it views up-down votes, #'s of views, ect. in order to dial it in just right, for the unsuspecting to believe it's all real, in order to get the desired effects on the type of propaganda narrative feed to the credulous.

Im afraid their plan is to cloud the sub enough to make people lose interest.

They took our jobs!!!!

Nope, just gullible

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I agree that /r/conspiracy is being manipulated, this is happening across Reddit. Any subreddit that can sway public opinion is actively being manipulated. What I don't understand, is the example you used as proof, regarding Joe Arpaio. Do you honestly believe that the disdain many Americans have for his man is completely manufactured? Is it difficult to believe that many Americans disagree with rounded up undocumented immigrants and sticking them in a tent city with inhumane/deplorable conditions? The examples you used don't even make sense. Untested rape kits in Georgia have nothing to do with Joe's policies in Maricopa County Arizona. Perhaps if Joe had spent less money on his illegal and inhumane tent cities and more money on catching these awful child molesters there would be more justice but there wasn't. The comment about Obama pardoning drug offenders also doesn't make sense. Pardoning low level drug dealers (non violent crimes) is not the same as pardoning a man who willfully broke the law to continue a racist and inhumane campaign against illegal immigrants who serve as a foundation to the economics of the county because they are the only ones willing to the do the shit low paying jobs Americans refuse to do.

While I agree that Reddit is manipulated, including this sub. Not every example of outrage against Trump is manufactured. A lot of people just think he is a selfish dick and his own actions can speak louder than any MSM talking head.

Want real evidence that the MSM manufactures consent and outrage? Look at how MSM covers Saudi Arabia war crimes? Look at how they covered Obama in Libya before Bengazi. Or look at how they record civilian deaths to drone bombs. There are a lot of examples you could use but defending a racist psychopath doesn't seem like your strongest example.

Yep, some mods in on it. Lots of "you're mental" posts.

I don't have political leanings I am politically independent. Your comment was very dismissive and I was merely mocking your dismissive comment.

That's what was thinking and noticed too.

I act like I trust Flytape, and I do not trust many of the other mods. There are 2 mods I believe are either SB or IS, and a whole bunch of others who are either rule obsessed control freaks, horrifically biased, or straight up pushing a narrative. I don't agree with Flytape's politics, but there's no way he's a shill, and for that reason I think he should stay right near the top of the list.

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i didn't know we had a red carpet.

Went way over my head then. Why not just say those things?

You will have to figure that one out for yourself, I can't say. But I promise its not too hard to figure out.

Don't play stupid. Many people at /r/The_Donald consider this their second choice community on Reddit. This is no secret. It's their choice where they want to spend their time. They were coming here, no matter what. Nobody had to say a damn thing. They were coming here, because we're not fucking idiots and we know what is going to happen when a subreddit shuts down. It doesn't hurt to remind them of our rules.

Just stop.

I don't know what 3L means, it P2P means pay to post.

He's accusing people of being shills and he hasn't been banned yet

I agree with you. This exactly what they are trying to do to us. Make us divide on purpose. Unfortunately most fail to see through the charade being presented. How sad it is what we see going on in society today and expressed on the news feeds being fed to us on purpose. Stay strong. The good will always overcome.

Because td is contained, but leftist subs are running rampant all over my fro tpage, with 20 subs flooding it with same shit every day

Ffs why not both?

I have nothing against people I disagree with posting their views; I have a huge problem with outside organizations brigading and botting to push their narratives.

We've got common ground there at the very least. cheers.

If you can't PROVE they're shills , you're banning people for their beliefs.

No, I wouldn't just call everyone a shill. I only do that when it's blatantly obvious, when the user is acting like a third party, neither a Democrat nor a republican (or foreign versions of them), and they don't seem to care about the welfare of the sub.

They react with hostility when I mention shills - the argument between actual users is not whether there are shills here, but how dominated the conversation is.

when the user is acting like a third party, neither a Democrat nor a republican

Uh, you do realize there are people who don't subscribe to the ideologies of either of the two major political parties, right?

I don't want to argue with you, I just wanted to give you a hint to think about.