How to tell if your conspiracy idea comes close to the truth.
20 2017-09-07 by Tunderbar1
How to tell if your conspiracy idea comes close to the truth.
Post your conspiracy to this subreddit.
If it gets immediately upvoted, it's probably either crap and/or it fits the globalist/leftist narrative.
If it gets immediately downvoted and piled on by CTR type responses, it's close to the truth. The harder it gets hit, the closer it is to the truth.
So this subreddit actually is useful for something.
edit: the response to this post will also be a good proof. LOL.
edit2: I wonder if the CTR types are going to upvote this to counter this post and prove it wrong. Or will they downvote it to shut it down? Poor little buggers are in a quandary.
88 comments
1 hrccbr1000rr 2017-09-07
Also if you get Masons arguing with you, you are probably close to something as well.
1 loserofpasswordzz 2017-09-07
Lol
1 HittingRichard 2017-09-07
100% Pizzagate is a great example. Never has anything been shilled so hard.
1 Rayfloyd 2017-09-07
If you manage to keep a 50% score with a high engagement, that's almost ding ding ding
1 OrangeCladAssassin 2017-09-07
Maybe some posts deserve to be down voted
Unsourced garbage, screenshots of someone on 4chan roleplaying, 40min YouTube videos of a robot voice talking
1 UnverifiedAllegation 2017-09-07
people dont want to believe their posts are downvoted because they are illogical or stupid
wouldnt you rather believe people disagree with you because you are close to unearthing a dangerous never before discovered truth that the evil Powers That Be would unleash their online manipulators to suppress?
I can tell you which id rather believe, but I can also tell you which is most likely closer to reality
1 3asybeat 2017-09-07
What if we gave a measured response concluding both scenarios are happening? Sometimes posts are garbage, they get downvoted because of it. Sometimes posts are damning or paradigm-smashing, they also get downvoted because of it. Why are everyone's explanations so narrow-minded and simplistic? What is wrong with taking nuance into consideration?
1 UnverifiedAllegation 2017-09-07
im with you, im all for nuance, tell OP
1 goroboldo 2017-09-07
Sounds like "if it's right wing it's true" which is a riot.
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
Not even close.
1 Tacomano123 2017-09-07
Ok let me try. The earth is flat.
1 HISNAMEWASSETHROGAN 2017-09-07
What a worthless post
1 TheHighBlatman 2017-09-07
What a worthless few day old parody account name.
1 HISNAMEWASSETHROGAN 2017-09-07
Sorry I just don't appreciate blatantly partisan posts.
1 TheHighBlatman 2017-09-07
Partisan? Oooooooooo k. Cuz this isn't about political affiliation whatsoever. Gtfo newb
1 HISNAMEWASSETHROGAN 2017-09-07
Lol. Sick burn
1 PCPositive 2017-09-07
Please explain which part of this post you consider partisan.
1 HISNAMEWASSETHROGAN 2017-09-07
For real? The whole post, and the edits.
1 UnverifiedAllegation 2017-09-07
CTR has long been equivalent to people who dont agree with pizzagate, seth rich, other conspiracies pushed hard by the right wing (and in half the cases, walked back by the right wing)
1 Prgjdsaewweoidsm 2017-09-07
Your honor, I submit Exhibit A: this post.
1 HISNAMEWASSETHROGAN 2017-09-07
Lol classic tactic man. Good one. If it's getting upvoted and it's against my agenda it must be shills.
1 Mrexreturns 2017-09-07
Global Warming Agenda and LGBT Agenda related posts stuff gets downvoted a lot. They are SCARED of exposing global warming and LGBT scams!
1 GeneralTonic 2017-09-07
Oh, thank goodness for this handy tip!
I was so sick and tired of worrying about facts and evidence and plausibility and motives. Now I can just check the numbers on Reddit and have another cup of coffee!
Thank you /u/Tunderbar1, you have saved me the effort of critical thinking.
1 decimal9 2017-09-07
Okay, let's go through your submissions from the past couple days:
1. Socialists are fascist
2. Socialists are Nazis
3. Democrats are the KKK
4. Left wing ideas are fascist
Your posts aren't conspiracies. They're blatant attempts to smear anyone left of centre as being fascist, Nazis, or KKK members.
If you're tired of getting downvoted, stop posting blatantly divisive hyperpartisan bullshit.
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
You got those backward.
Fascist were socialists.
Nazis were socialists.
KKK were Democrats.
Fascist and NAZI platforms and ideas were socialist.
Words matter.
1 decimal9 2017-09-07
Pretty sure we can all read between the lines, given this post is also whining about the "leftist" narrative and crying about CTR.
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
And? So? Your point?
1 decimal9 2017-09-07
Don't cry about getting downvoted in a conspiracy forum for posting capitalist, pro-government propaganda purposefully smearing the opponents of the current US administration.
1 UnverifiedAllegation 2017-09-07
whats the most reddit addicted city again? some air force base? makes sense theyd be pushing pro govt agenda I guess
1 3asybeat 2017-09-07
Not sure if you put two and two together on that factoid.
1 UnverifiedAllegation 2017-09-07
help me out
1 3asybeat 2017-09-07
I guess I just figured that if that place is actually an astroturfing operation, then they would be shilling on both sides of the political aisle. It's their job to foment discord amongst the people over issues of little importance, and suppress legitimate qualms with the oligarchy. Therefore the shilling needs to come from both 'sides' in order to be effective. I gathered that you suppose any pro-Trump rhetoric to also be pro-government, and vice versa, which isn't necessarily true. Sorry to be so long-winded
1 UnverifiedAllegation 2017-09-07
i guess i expected govt shilling to be pro govt
1 Citizen90222 2017-09-07
You're the author of your own problems?
1 dpcaxx 2017-09-07
"KKK were Democrats."
What about now?
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
Both are on George Soros' payroll so you tell me.
1 dpcaxx 2017-09-07
So, what you are saying is all those good 'ol boys driving around in their pickup trucks voted for Hillary. You might want to talk to one or two of them and verify that.
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
No. It was the good ole boys who owned slaves back in the day. I'm guessing they were riding around on horses or in horse drawn wagons or maybe even trains, in the late 1800's anyways.
Today, they take limos and taxis and their own cars, maybe even the odd pickup trucks as well, to their Democrat events down South.
3,877,868 voted for Hillary in Texas. You tell me. What did they all drive?
1 dpcaxx 2017-09-07
Ohhh, now I understand. Rebel flags = Democrats.
Thank you for clearing that up for me.
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
Nope. Did not say that.
But...... if someone over reacts to a Rebel flag, there's Soros money in action.
1 UnverifiedAllegation 2017-09-07
youre not even trying
1 decimal9 2017-09-07
So is Trump, but I somehow don't see you ever posting anything critical of the President or of the party that controls the presidency, House, and Senate.
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
Oh, I'm watching him closely. When I actually see something that is worth criticizing I will criticize him.
And since you so closely watch what I post, you'll know that I have criticized a number of people on the right. Notably, John McCain and Paul Ryan. And the Bush's. But you knew that right?
1 decimal9 2017-09-07
Did those criticisms happen to come directly after they said something critical of Trump? Can't have that, can we.
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
He's been in office for 8 months. Still waiting for something solid to complain about.
Frankly, I think he's been compromised by the globalists around him. I said that some time ago. Not much else of any substance to complain about. Yet. Unless you want me to complain about how much golfing he's doing.
1 UnverifiedAllegation 2017-09-07
isnt it convenient that the same people that attacked obama for 8 years can now continue to attack obama/clinton/the dems under the guise of 'deepstate', while at the same time holding nobody in power accountable (unless they oppose the god emperor)
1 GeneralTonic 2017-09-07
George Soros donates to the KKK? Would you mind pointing to the evidence for that one?
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
Jason Kessler is Jewish. He worked for the globalist George Soros funded Occupy movement as an organizer. Right about when Trump cleaned Hillary's clock at the polls, he had an epiphany so strong that he went from a radical leftist Jewish Democrat operatchnik to leader of the a radical allegedly right wing racist anti-Jew NAZI/KKK group.
There's a video online showing a black fellow describing what he witnessed. He witnessed buses in Charlottesville pulling up together, lining up, and unloading protestors. The buses were parked in a line. BLM and Antifa came off one bus, KKK/Nazis came of another bus. The buses were parked in a row, in a line. LOL. They were given their props and they both went their separate ways. LOL.
There's various videos online showing the actors and the vehicles getting to their designated spots. LOL.
That performance was funded by George Soros.
1 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2017-09-07
So would you say their main interest is promoting political division to divide the non-wealthy amongst themselves and dilute their potential to fight their actual enemy?
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
Yes. I would say that.
1 GeneralTonic 2017-09-07
Laughing-out-loud, indeed.
1 UnverifiedAllegation 2017-09-07
lol you led with
can i see the videos of hte paid protestors coming off the same bus and receiving props?
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
The fact that he's Jewish is relevant in the context of his current employment. Don't you think?
1 GeneralTonic 2017-09-07
What makes those historical topics relevant on a conspiracy theories forum?
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
If you have to ask why are yoi even posting here?
1 GeneralTonic 2017-09-07
That is not an answer.
What do those historical topics related to fascists have to do with conspiracy theories? What conspiracy or conspiracies are you referring to which you believe should be obvious to me?
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
No. That was a great answer.
Okay then, I'll dumb it down for you. I'll even type this slowly so that I don't lose you.
The Big Lie. We all assume the Big Lie was a tool of dictators. But we all have been fed big lies. One of which is that Nazis and Fascists were racist nationalist populist right wing movements.
That is a Big Lie. The truth is the Nazism and Fascism are racist nationalist populist LEFT WING movements.
Is this dumbed down enough for you? I can type even slower and use smaller words if I need to.
1 GeneralTonic 2017-09-07
Thanks for the response. Not so much for the attitude.
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
Here's another reason.
Those who do not know their history are bound to repeat it.
1 UnverifiedAllegation 2017-09-07
if you want to defend TPTB why are you even posting here?
1 Laragon 2017-09-07
That's such a basic, meme level understanding of it that anyone making that argument should be downvoted and regarded as ignorant.
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
They were a significant enough Democrat caucus that anyone seeking the party nomination couldn't get it without the KKK caucus's official support.
1 Laragon 2017-09-07
Again, meme level understanding. You don't even understand what you're talking about.
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
I don't see you making any effort to "correct the record" except for empty ad hominem. Educate us.
1 Citizen90222 2017-09-07
Then when it doesn't work, pull out the victim card lol.
1 Beltrev_Montor 2017-09-07
I wonder if he is Christian and brainwashed since birth
1 Citizen90222 2017-09-07
Don't worry about upvotes or down votes.
Let people try to poke holes in it, and if it holds up to scrutiny then you know you have something.
1 UnverifiedAllegation 2017-09-07
This is truly sound logic, and a great feedback loop. the more people disagree with me and argue with me, the more correct i am!
solid way to reason your way through life
actually, it sounds like mental illness and delusion
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
How can you tell the difference between mental illness and delusion and bloody fucking genius?
LOL.
1 UnverifiedAllegation 2017-09-07
methods of reasoning
1 rhqwekjlrhqweklr 2017-09-07
I'd say effectiveness.
1 UnverifiedAllegation 2017-09-07
how are you judging effectiveness? a persons own conviction that their ideas are correct? this cant be objectively tested.
1 rhqwekjlrhqweklr 2017-09-07
How ideas translate into physical effect.
1 TheBlueBlaze 2017-09-07
"If you face opposition, you must be right"
This is why Trump won. Because some people can't imagine they can be wrong.
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
No. That is not what I said. Nice try though.
1 TheBlueBlaze 2017-09-07
Your whole argument is that popular posts are wrong and/or backed by the wrong people, and unpopular posts are on to something.
Just because something is unpopular doesn't mean it's right. If people say you're wrong, the immediate response shouldn't be to further assume you're right because so many people say you're wrong. that mentality can lead to dangerous things.
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
It's a tad more nuanced than that. But nice try.
1 Beltrev_Montor 2017-09-07
yup I often say things just to see how shills react
1 PetililPuff 2017-09-07
Like putinlovescats and his new age mysticism witchcraft nonsense :3
1 3asybeat 2017-09-07
While I don't agree with you politically, I have watched what you are talking about happen in real time often, and am watching happen right here now and now. We should be fighting censorship and shilling together no matter who is doing it. Lord knows T_D does its fair share so I would expect you to stand up against it when you see it also.
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
Right now the vast majority of the censorship and shilling is coming from the globalists. I'm standing up to them with what little resources I have. You?
1 3asybeat 2017-09-07
I'm doing the same. You'll really know you're speaking truth when you don't fit in with T_D or /politics. Trump is a globalist. He surrounds himself with elites and protects their interests. He was meant to distract people with superficial controversies and he is doing exactly that, while real issues of vastly greater importance are ignored.
1 TheHighBlatman 2017-09-07
Y'all read that 200+ pages and youtubers that Google has blacklisted? Its a list of 200+ things you should check out right now.
Like banned books is the list of what to read. Internet censorship is the book burning of the now.
1 manananaas 2017-09-07
https://imgur.com/6qz8FZD
1 schmickler83 2017-09-07
Flat earth. Downvote me and validate it.
1 opco10 2017-09-07
Go back to T_D if that's how you're going to regard any left thinking conspiracy theorists on this sub. I can recognize the partisan bullshit on both sides, as well as the fact that the deep state is the one really pulling the strings on both party narratives, but you're just biased and ignorant if you really believe that more downvotes=a sound argument. I checked your post history. You got downvoted because you posted a bunch of trash articles. It really doesnt even pertain to conspiracy theory. You were insinuating that "the left" are based in racism(kkk) and are facist/communists. It's so funny to me how conservatives try sooo hard to pin the kkk/1865 democrat label on modern democrats. The two parties switched after the southern strtegy. There's a reason why basically anyone waving the confederate flag today in the south identifies as a republican. Their great-great grandparents were democrats fighting for slavery. The names changed, the people didnt so much. But even that has very little relevance to anything on this sub (when standing alone).
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
New oxymoron of the day. Oh the irony.
1 opco10 2017-09-07
New for you. "Left" thinking is defined by the garbage that crosses your newsfeed daily. Look at my comment/post history. I am by no means center/right/left.
Go back to your safe space.
1 UnverifiedAllegation 2017-09-07
is this really what you think? what a curious thought.
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
I doubt that you understand what I meant.
1 UnverifiedAllegation 2017-09-07
ooh good label. what do you do with people who dont fit in these rigid categories
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
Two categories. Globalists. And the rest of the planet. The globalists chose the fight.
1 INTELDracula 2017-09-07
This an ass backwards post.
1 HISNAMEWASSETHROGAN 2017-09-07
Sorry I just don't appreciate blatantly partisan posts.
1 Tunderbar1 2017-09-07
Not even close.
1 rhqwekjlrhqweklr 2017-09-07
How ideas translate into physical effect.