/r/conspiracy Round Table #5: MKULTRA

87  2017-09-09 by axolotl_peyotl

291 comments

The Men who Stare at Goats

It's a full audiobook, but the last chapter is over MKULTRA death of Frank Olson.

The book got turned into an excellent documentray series.

The twist in the end is amazing and should give everyone here pause for thought.

Nice, Gonna watch that later

Watched yesterday and will 9/10 recommend. Only thing missing was anyone taking responsibility for the evil shit, like the murder of Frank Olsen, the LSD experiments, the psych torture as in Abu Ghraib in Irag, where Lyndy England states that she was ordered to pose for (psy-op) pics. Just *damn*.

‎Jon Ronson‎ was recently on Joe Rogan Experience. He basically says the whole program was a joke and Major Gerneral Albert Stubblebine was out of his mind. Although, I though the most interesting aspect of the interview was when he talked about how infiltrated neo nazi/white supremacist groups are with FBI agents. I've been making that point for a while not, and currently feel the feds are helping to create the current political environment for social manipulation by using higalian dialect.

Yes. Maxine Waters seems to think there's white people under every rock on youtube trying to kill her when it's actually a blockbuster video full of AI phones making the appearances of 'people' with contrary ideologies, when it's actually a fraud perpetuated by money— Being actively used to subvert the union.

Very good.

this.

It's being bought and paid for by these Bolshevik wannabe Oligarchic Imperials.

They want the system to crash so they can have pizzaparties all the time.

Perhaps it was a "joke" as far as never having any real chance of accomplishing what it intended, but it certainly wasn't a joke in the sense that real people's lives were horribly and intentionally ruined. I agree though that Ronson had an interesting point about infiltration, always important to keep the threat of provacetwurs in mind...we've seen a lot of Muslim terrorists turn out to basically be FBI patsies, and I think they will need to reinvent different dangers soon as the Muslim thing grows old

we've seen a lot of Muslim terrorists turn out to basically be FBI patsies, and I think they will need to reinvent different dangers soon as the Muslim thing grows old

I try to point how prevalent FBI informants are, they pop up all the time. I really need to sit down one day and make a u/-moose- type post about FBI informants, because they are everywhere.

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/6u97tj/oklahoma_city_attempted_bank_bombing_suspects/dlr8gno/?context=3

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I miss the moose.

The Hegelian dialectic. A fine conceptual tool that becomes dangerous when adapted to manipulate politics.

Yup nazi and the Feds go way back. Shit should awaken people to all other the possibilities of crazy ass corruption going on even if it seem "outlandish". - NOTHING is outlandish when a government executes a false flag terror operation to knock its own people's sky scrapers. STAY SKEPTICAL.

Gives it more credibility to me. JRE is a massive propaganda operation.

Frank Olson's murder was solved by an autistic child.

the only alex jones video i 100% agree in (apart from the parts where he says obama is literally the head of al queda. oh please, politicians are puppets)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wP9fWVWM5A

and people doubt things like illuminati/free masons exist...

Absolutely.

The entire Evidence Of Revision series is amazing.

Jonestown was certainly a mkultra experiment. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown_conspiracy_theories

Many people forget how close Jim Jones was with politicians. In fact, he was appointed chairman of San Francisco Housing Authority, where he recruited many of his future victims. From http://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=33190

One of his notable honors was being selected chairman of the San Francisco Housing Authority Commission by San Francisco Mayor George Moscone (Layton, 105). The Mayor was one of his greatest supporters, even sponsoring a Testimonial Dinner in the reverend’s honor (Layton, 105). On one occasion, Jones hosted a celebration for Martin Luther King Jr.’ s Birthday and shared the podium with Governor Brown and the Chief of President Carter’s Transition Team (Layton, 105). When Ronald Reagan was the governor of California, he sent the Temple a thank-you note to the Temple for all of their hard work in the community (Layton, 35). His most noteworthy advocates include President Carter’s wife, civil rights leader Angela Davis, Pastor Cecil Williams, and Indian rights activist Dennis Banks (Layton, 65). With such an entourage, it is easy to see why Jones had success Despite his outlandish doctrine and often erratic behavior.

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If Jim Jones was in with MKUktra then did Jim Jones kill himself or do people think he faked his death and survived?

If anything, he was murdered once his handlers no longer had use for him.

Or - he was ordered to kill himself

ordered programmed to kill himself

First programmed, then ordered. Order = program execution.

Sorry, I'm a nerd.

Hey we're in r/conspiracy in an mkultra post talking about semantics. Pretty sure we're both nerds.

Fair point.

you need some egg

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At least it wasnt Order 66

If you look at the findings after the mass suicide, there's a report that Jones didn't die by poisoning, but instead was shot in the head by one of his guards.

I just watched another link off of this link; Donnie Marshall. Have you watched it holy shit bone chilling. Some of the names in it are truly shocking and really makes me even more skeptical of ANYBODY in mainstream and anybody who dies to early. Shit is fucked up.

Can you link me?

I'm hoping S02 of Stranger Things goes further into Eleven's mother's storyline. The more MKULTRA goes mainstream, the better.

But, legit, as someone with PTSD, this is a topic I try to avoid research on. Some things you cannot unsee or unhear.

They are releasing a drama over Frank Olson soon on Netflix. I'm curious to check it out.

"wormwood" looks promising.

Its good check it out if you havent.

PTSD? From what? And how is it linked to the TV show

Childhood physical and sexual abuse, an earthquake and then a decade of abusive relationships and alcoholic/drug abuse.

And if you lived with violence, any kind of violent or anxious situation, music, imagery, environment can cause triggers. I'm always looking for the exits, aware of everyone in the room, securing my perimeter, hyper-vigilance, etc.

I'm sorry for what you went through.

Thanks, but I'm one of the lucky ones. Some never make it outta thier 20s, either drugs or suicide.

Well said. I wish you all the Best.

Stranger Things' working title was 'Montauk', which is like the #1 Most Bullshit Conspiracy, so I'm not personally expecting any strong soft disclosure there.

Why do you say Montauk was BS?

Because Moon & Nichols self-admittedly fanciful paperback narratives of the early 90s leaned heavily on the Philadelphia Experiment / Project Rainbow, both of which are total bunk; Last Podcast on the Left had a Philadelphia Experiment episode that goes into detail on this.

Much gets made of the Park Service only receiving the surface lands: this was done for insurance reasons. Family member died at a park? Could be a suit. Family member died on a decommissioned military base? Fk u, buddy.

It's a fun site to hypothesize about, sure, mostly because it looks so damn creepy. But guess what? All the SAGE bases looked creepy, and a lot of them left better paper trails of exactly how and why they were.

Montauk is basically on the same level as reptilians, anunanki, cloudbusting, etc in that what's being engaged in isn't Knowing, just Believing.

Fair enough. Ive read up on the Montauk chair and also the creature they found that got washed up there. One thing I always think about when they name a particular installation as home to project "X" is partly a disinfo campaign just to throw people off the scent a bit. I wouldn't be surprised if the government conducted the alleged experiments, maybe just not at Montauk.

I'm not familiar with project rainbow so it looks like a got some reading to do.

Plum island is a bad place. They are responsible for the modern outbreak of Lyme's disease (note the island is very close to Lyme, CT). I'm fairly certain they fabricated the bacteria (or at least made it viable) there.

A Mind for Murder: The Education of the Unabomber and the Origins of Modern Terrorism Alston Chase has a lot of dope on Henry Murray, the CIA/Harvard psych who experimented with Ted in the subject set.

He doesn't have any drugs or confinement or shock treatments or McGill U extremities. They were more along the lines of Milgram experiments or Stanford Prison experiments. Basically grad students would be assholes to the subjects and study how they reacted. The Harvard students got off pretty light in comparison. Not that they weren't in outrageous violation of modern human experiments protocol, but Kaczynski's twisted psyche was affected by a million other circumstances beyond CIA experimentation.

It is chilling in a way how much good sense is contained in the Manifesto. I wonder if the autobiography is ever going to come into print. I would love to read it.

The People's Church, Laurel Canyon, and Charles Manson, were all CIA operations.

Peter Levenda's research on the Manson murders is some real eye-opening stuff...any other good resources on that topic?

Word of mouth

Were they experiments that got out of control or did they want media frenzy?

Experiments, Human experiments.

Google: "Project Artichoke"

Yes. Laurel Canyon Airforce Lookout/Laboratory

Dave McGowan is one of the best I know of on the subject...

Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation

The hippie movement of the 1960s, which began in Laurel Canyon, Los Angeles and peculiar military and political ties to prominent figures in the scene like Jim Morrison and Frank Zappa are looked at with Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon author Dave McGowan. We also discuss movement pioneer Vito Paulekas, Charles Manson and the Manson Family murders, and the theory that the CIA manufactured the hippie counterculture to undermine the anti war movement

CIA Hippie Mind Control: Inside Laurel Canyon with Dave McGowan

Yeah— It happened.

FYI you've been linked from TMOR because they literally have nothing better to do.

Interesting... That TMOR never made no sense to me. Good thread.

Frank's music fooled me, for years. I feel like a jerk for liking him. I'd like to think he felt guilty, and wanted bits of truth to shine through.

Think-Thanks... that's some Orwellian typo. :)

awesome research and he has the docs

I'm glad there are others following Jan's diatribes. I've probably listened to about 30 hours of his unspun shows. I really love the stuff he does with Dr. Utter; Atwill is also an intellectual force to be reckoned. I worry that a lot of his arguments, however, rely on tenuous connections and fallacious arguments despite his repeated claims of being an expert on the Trivium.

When you take the things he's saying in context with the lessons of M. William Cooper in his Mystery Babylon series from the early 90's, they certainly seem to buttress and confirm one another, and yet I've never hear Jan reference Cooper or the majority of his links.

Have you (or anyone reading this) used his "brain" software that he provides on his gnosticmedia website?

I worry that a lot of his arguments, however, rely on tenuous connections and fallacious arguments despite his repeated claims of being an expert on the Trivium.

i share your concern. one example which immediately springs to mind concerns a riff on this quote:

"In the Brave New World of my fantasy eugenics and dysgenics were practiced systematically."

i vividly recall jan exclaiming that the phrase "fantasy eugenics" proves that huxley was an idealistic eugenicist technocrat of the worst sort, while it is quite obvious from attention to context that "fantasy" in this context refers to the book itself. i've thought of pointing this out to him, but my last conversation with him ended badly (though humorously), with me confessing that i was part of the cia mind control squad assigned to stop his liberatory mission by asking him reasonable questions.

Q_Q

I don't have the discipline to build my own "brain" -- text files seems to work better for me.

BTW here's Gnostic Media's MKULTRA Brain file. Lots of good info here.

https://youtu.be/v82-MPeCPnM

What is a plausible explanation for this?

Clone malfunction.

How did Al roker himself explain this? It definitely looks unreal and it's not the only instance of these clones having melt downs

Do you have more instances to share?

Some of those clips are edited. Try sourcing the originals and you'll find that the pauses aren't as long as they are in this video.

Yeah there are some good ones and others where they are reaching. That Kourtney Kardashian one though...

Bingo! Thank you. What are your thoughts on the super soldier cloning programs...like Max Spires and such?

Thank you for sharing. These are great.

Yes. He was triggered when she said "holy ghost." He explained to her, "well you know, you said the word." ..

Remember when all those reporters started speaking gibberish back in 2012? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2rWmpgWHG_0

The second reporter with the long blonde hair was having a stroke.

""When I spoke to Serene's doctor yesterday, he told me she had the complete head-to-toe workup, everything was evaluated according to a stroke protocol to exclude a stroke. So, imaging of the brain, ultrasound of the heart and the blood vessels in the neck and the brain, extensive blood tests. Evaluated by a cardiologist, as well as migraine specialists and neurosurgeon. No stone was left unturned and luckily, (they're) 95 percent sure it was not a stroke. More the classic migraine"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/serene-branson-had-migraine-not-mini-stroke/

Oh wow. Thank you. I never saw this article. I retract my previous statement.

Thanks, what a polite response:) Cheers

Hypnosis is a technique used in the MK Ultra program. This video shows Al Roker going under hypnosis in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njE-YvyET2I

I don't really see the big deal on that one; he stares into the camera for a few seconds with a pleasant but neutral expression while the other people are talking.

That's a fair summary but it's weird af

True. What gets me about the clips of news personalities 'breaking down" like this is that these people spend an enormous amount of time speaking in front of a camera, and of course they're going to fuck up now and again.

Some are stranger than others, no question, but framing every brief pause as an mk ultra glitch seems a bit of a stretch.

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Can you find another source for the transcript of this talk?

A lot of the segues are pretty fantastical and these allegations beget a ton of scrutiny.

I've been half tempted to contact the supposed DC Hammond and ask him about this speech

I was half hoping that link wouldn't show up in this thread. Seems too fanciful for me

https://youtu.be/9FUersarZuo

Not much of a better source than a live recording.

Thanks didn't know this existed.

That's exactly what I was looking for. Certainly lends a lot more credence to the transcripts. Thank you

Many of the points made in the Greenbaum speech re: color coding, Greek letters, etc seem hard to believe, but they emerged as a collection of memes emerging from private psychiatrists and psychologists comparing notes. There's one scholarly reference that puts the population so 'coded' at around 1.3k. This is where the False Memory Syndrome Foundation finds its way onto the scene in the early 90s.

Gunther Russbacher supposedly corroborated this, but fortunately there's enough evidence for it now that we don't have to take his word. I don't believe any of the circumstances surrounding Russbacher & Paul Wilcher have ever been proven out one way or another to a meaningful degree, tho.

I thought false memory cam from Jolly West and his branch of satanic ritual abuse mkultra defense. If they don't abide their suicide programming we will discredit victims with accusations of implanted memories.

Nice link! From now on anyone who uses "FALSE MEMORY SYNDROME" shall be assumed to be a pedophile.

This might be the single most important thing you can ever read when trying to answer the "why" behind both ritual abuse and MkUltra

Late to the party, I know, but found something weird. This was def a very interesting, albeit confusing read. Decided to look up DC Hammond (the speaker) and he has a website: http://www.neurofeedbackslc.com

It seems that he is now focused on neurofeedback. Not a word is mentioned about MPD, ritual abuse or programming. Was kind of expecting more...looks like he just straight up abondened all that stuff? The plot thickens.

Here's the search results from CIA.gov... don't forget to look up other MK programs like MKNAOMI while yer there...

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/search/site/MKULTRA

To say nothing of US state policies and practices prior to WW2, it's almost like our keepers learned of Nazi and Imperial Japanese human experimentation and occult/phenomena research and said "well hey that's a great idea." And soon thereafter "well hey the Soviets are doing it to too, we gotta keep up." I've done my digging and been disgusted by what I've found. As this may be the most confirmable and devious 20th century conspiracy by the US government against it's people (in the usual guise of being conducted "for" the people), it's still quite relevant. I have some questions for those more knowledgeable than I.

Were systems like this already in play in the US long before WW2? Aside from Eugenics I mean, though it's clearly a precursor of sorts.

I've read pieces on E.T. disclosure in which former state officials coming forward to claim and hint-hint about Roswell and other events are viewed with extreme skepticism...largely around how much should we really be trusting former state officials to tell us the truth about anything? Are we being misled on purpose? Too good to be true?

Branching off of that idea, were the official end of the program and the release of declassified docs about it a "too good to be true" kind of thing? Perhaps that out of concern for the public finding out about the program the state then disclosed part of it, punished some of it's players, thereby informing the public of what occurred but also indirectly insuring us that it no longer continues. Many sources I've seen claim that it was a small, niche program only known to a few select agencies and players...was this really the case, or simply an attempt to reduce the public scope the program itself?

Is there any doubt that MKULTRA-style interrogation techniques aren't still being tested and perhaps utilized at CIA black sites?

Well MKUltra consisted of plenty of Nazi scientists who were brought over thru operation paperclip after the war.

To say the least, parts of MKUltra was absolutely inspired by nazi experimental weapons and projects.

Well MKUltra consisted of plenty of Nazi scientists who were brought over thru operation paperclip after the war.

To say the least, parts of MKUltra was absolutely inspired by nazi experimental weapons and projects.

MKULTRA is still being performed but not interrogation

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Have you been able to gather any evidence of the why and how?

Why

Report here why the TIs you know and you are being targeted

https://np.reddit.com/r/TargetedEnergyWeapons/comments/3s800w/report_here_why_the_tis_you_know_and_you_are/

How

(1) Electronic torture by increasing the SAR and altering the modulation of your own cell phone and router. Increasing dirty electricity.

[WIKI] Electronic Torture: Part 1: Increased SAR emitted by wifi devices: routers, laptops, wireless sensor meters, security cameras, smart meters, smart TVs, smart appliances and medical implants. Meters and apps. Meter measurements reports on increased SAR.

https://np.reddit.com/r/TargetedEnergyWeapons/comments/41dl18/wiki_electronic_torture_part_1_increased_sar/

[WIKI] Electronic Torture: Part 2: Increased SAR from cellular devices: mobile phones, tablets, GPS navigation and concealed GSM tracking devices. Apps and meters. Meter measurements reports.

https://np.reddit.com/r/TargetedEnergyWeapons/comments/41dm8v/wiki_electronic_torture_part_2_increased_sar_from/

[WIKI] Electronic Torture: Part 3: Increased dirty electricity emitted by smart meters, broadband over power line, lilly waves, fluorescent light bulbs. Dirty electricity meters. Meter measurements reports.

https://np.reddit.com/r/TargetedEnergyWeapons/comments/41dn5u/wiki_electronic_torture_part_3_increased_dirty/

(2) Ultra wideband radar and ground penetrating radar:

[WIKI] DEW: Ionosphere Heaters (HAARP, EISCAT, SBX radar, NEXRAD, etc.)

https://np.reddit.com/r/TargetedEnergyWeapons/comments/5uvod6/wiki_dew_ionosphere_heaters_haarp_eiscat_sbx/

[WIKI] DEW: Radar: Ground Penetrating Radar (GPR)

https://np.reddit.com/r/TargetedEnergyWeapons/comments/6i8ukw/wiki_radar_ground_penetrating_radar_gpr/

[WIKI] DEW: Radar: Low Earth Orbit Imaging Radar

https://np.reddit.com/r/TargetedEnergyWeapons/comments/6i8tpp/wiki_radar_low_earth_orbit_imaging_radar/

[WIKI] DEW: Radar: Optical Radar also known as Laser Radar

https://np.reddit.com/r/TargetedEnergyWeapons/comments/6i8l7m/wiki_radar_optical_radar_also_known_as_laser_radar/

[WIKI] DEW: Radar: Over the Horizon (OTH) radar, Relocatable Over The Horizon Radar (ROTHR)

https://np.reddit.com/r/TargetedEnergyWeapons/comments/5azsvq/wiki_over_the_horizon_oth_radar_relocatable_over/

[WIKI] DEW: Radar: Radar imaging and monitoring of humans (Papers)

https://np.reddit.com/r/TargetedEnergyWeapons/comments/6byv4x/wiki_dew_radar_imaging_and_monitoring_of_humans/

[WIKI] DEW: Radar: Russian Over the Horizon Radar

https://np.reddit.com/r/TargetedEnergyWeapons/comments/5pxsdu/wiki_dew_russian_over_the_horizon_radar/

My reaction is exactly the same. We might be at the same level of research, I'm not sure, so consider these for thought rather than as authoritative, they're all "as far as I know."

Truman created the what is now the CIA in 1947. The agency is the secret police at the will of the president. I believe that it works the other way around as well, in the Deep State uses CIA to find and use blackmail techniques specifically against the president. Gottlieb et al created blackmail child pornography films of government and university employees using MKULTRA child sex slaves.

Let me repeat that because it blows my mind that this is not the only thing we talk and DO something about: Gottlieb et al created blackmail child pornography films of government and university employees using MKULTRA child sex slaves.

CIA must have known about ancient ritualistic torture techniques to control the human mind. They definitely started the slave program before learning of the "Manchurian Candidate," which they claimed was their motivation.

They pardoned the German mind control and the Japanese biowarfare/radiation scientists.

The Mengele import was the most obvious and not even acknowledged by the 1996 Presidential Commission that I could see. They could not admit that they were bringing Mengele over so they concocted "German countryside" and "Argentina" b.s. EVEN ISRAEL helped Mengele keep his Canadian and American torture/mind control position of "Dr. Green" ("Green" is the head programmer.) They claimed to have found Mengele but let him go in order not to endanger another NAZI hunt underway, which is the biggest pile of ridiculous nonsense ever uttered.

Mengele worked in Canada and bases all over the United States. His work or perhaps his colleague's work I'm not sure (because sometimes I just have to stop reading) was based on ancient and satanic ritual abuse mind control methods which allowed CIA to organize and create mind control recipes.

CIA might have been innocent compared to the German and Japanese mind control but my opinion was that they would have done it if they had thought of it, so rather than "that's a great idea let's steal their work after the war," it was "our Deep State masters are multi-generational satanic ritual abuse mind control slave societies already, let's up our game against/with them by using the advanced German and Japanese techniques. I base this belief on the fact that they didn't just steal the "losers'" work, they pardoned, rewarded and his the criminals from retribution. Today the world thinks Neuremburg took care of the NAZI doctors and doesn't even know about the Japanese cooking people alive.

Eugenics - I think you are absolutely right in stating that Eugenics was in place, because Eugenics is a natural precursor to multi generation mind control slavery. I also came to that conclusion. I think Rockfeller Eugenics, NAZI eugencis and Harry Armstrong making sure the NAZI mind control scientists were setup in cushy CIA university jobs are all intimately connected.

Re ET in my opinion all ET info is a cover story for two disinfo campaigns.

One, ET is used as part of mind control domination, it is a being so powerful that the slave believes he/she is being watched on an atomic level and can therefore not break the terror to escape.

Two I think came later but that's just a guess is to use ET as the biggest false flag ever created in order to justify spending trillions to defend earth from the greatest danger it ever faced.

William Cooper said that he was leaked ET info in order to disseminate intact but later realized that it was leaked to him so that he would be an unwitting disinformation agent.

The documents were not released on purpose. They were stolen and at first the newspapers refused to print them. But they did, hence the Church Committee hearings. Helms ordered all of the MKULTRA documentation burned. The only reason FOIA has anything is because there was a box mis-filed and so handed over (which blows my mind because it would imply there's an honest person complying with FOIA in CIA when we know they accidentally lose Apollo Mission and Torture documentation on a regular basis).

Stansfield Turner only exposed and admitted to what was already exposed on stolen paper, which is why LSD and not sex, torture and slavery were not exposed. The senators were remarkably kind to him and he was remarkably kind to the universities that received the MKULTRA contracts. They asked him softball questions, and he in turn wrote to universities giving them a heads up that some information on them was public so hint hint wink wink might wanna destroy some records.

Most of the FOIA material was financial and so didn't expose the agency to any trouble. NONE of the people involved in LSD or sex slave/assassin/secret courier were sought out or put on trial.

No one was brought to trial, no one was punished. Gottlieb wrote a memo he made sure was public saying that CIA had given up on mind control because it didn't work. This was 100% lie. Not only did mind control work, by 1973 the electronic frequency weapons used on people this very day were already well under way.

The MKULTRA program is the name I will continue to call it because we are communicating a concept, not being pendantic about secret code words and "it depends on the meaning of 'is.'"

Semantics are irrelevant when children are being raped and tortured in order to ensure my freedom as an American.

YES it absolutely still goes on today. Targeted Individuals are being microwaved and bombarded with EEG cloning attacks that create forced speech, voices in their brains not produced by soundwaves a recorder can interpret, remote influencing, mind reading (I am not joking).

Its counterpart is gangstalking, which uses the community to torture, harass and gaslight the victim in order to destabilize what's left of their sanity.

The microwave and remote electronic brainwave weaponry is the MKULTRA mind control program, and the gangstalking is part of the victim surveillance and destablization.

The MKULTRA weapons mimic psychiatric illnesses of schizophrenia and paranoia. Victims appear to have these disorders because they hear voices. The gangstalking and harassment require sensitization to the perpetrators' clothing or car colors and so to an onlooker there is nothing there when the victim complains of being stalked. But the victim recognizes the patterns and so can't understand why no one else can see them. That is the nature of sensitization. Buy a red car and suddenly you will see red cars all over the place. They were always there but now you're conscious of the color.

The weapons induce psychiatric disorders and the gangstalking, harassment, gaslighting and surveillance create valid paranoia. Combined these make the victim appear to someone who knows nothing of these programs as if they are a paranoid schizophrenic delusional person who is therefore completely discredited. Because victims have no credibility, MKULTRA is now a worldwide program of victims being microwaved, having images induced into their minds, having thoghts programmed into their mind, having voices pumped into their cochlear center that interprets noise signals into speech. They are harassed with voices and text messages telling them what they are doing at the very moment they are receiving the message, ensuring they know that the MKULTRA perps have complete control of their lives. The perpetrators say things like "We are going to rape and kill you," and "You should kill yourself."

In this way they destroy the victim, they decompose the life force in a modern process of what the E. German government of 1950-1989 called Zersetzung, or "decomposition."

Gottlieb et al created blackmail child pornography films of government and university employees using MKULTRA child sex slaves.

There's a whole lot there, so I'll just ask on what seemed your most ardent point- can you provide any reading or source on that part? Was this one of the confirmed findings in the released documents?

You will see it in the second testimony here in which she says at the age of 9 she was taken to Maryland to learn how to please men and one of the reasons was so Gottlieb could use her to blackmail people who affected money coming in.

Someone has got it locked down. Great post.

Just wow man. Thanks for the great read.

Targeted Individuals are being microwaved and bombarded with EEG cloning attacks that create forced speech, voices in their brains not produced by soundwaves a recorder can interpret, remote influencing, and mind reading (I am not joking).

Mind reading sounds fantastical until you realise that your little voice in your head (subvocalisation) actually creates movement in the larynx. All you'd need is a powerful camera and a program which can decipher said movements. SVR (Subvocal recognition) is a real phenomenon, being studied around the world right now. It's no leap to suggest that there's a way to do it without placing electrodes on the larynx. It's no secret. Check out US patents even: 6011991 and 3951134.

Well said. Thank you for the comment.

the release of declassified docs

Speaking from experience, having worked on three DoD classified programs (now declassified), typically, the only reasons any government agency releases declassified documents are:

a.) the document's contents is no longer relevant. *

b.) the document's contents have been eclipsed by later developments. c.) persons involved in the document are no longer living.

  • A good example of the first one is documentation on early missile tests performed after WW2 which led to further developments in guidance technology.

ET, Roswell, alien spacecraft, they are all red herrings. Probably part of some other program that we don’t know about.

I’ve come to view conspiracies as such.

  1. If we’ve heard about it, it’s probably false.
  2. If the government has “admitted” or declassified something they did, but then claim they don’t do anymore, they probably are doing it but clamped down on security.
  3. All government black-sites that we know of are red herrings.

Relevance to the topic:

I support this suggestion. However I'm more interested on discussing the modern devices and artifacts used for a effective brainwashing. Lets be coherent, these days it's difficult to provide LSD or other substances and perform a psychological "montage" like MKULTRA did to disrupt the victim, but technologies like military V2K (exploiting the microwave auditory effect: voices in ones mind) and other remote directed energy weapons designed to harm (ultra/infra sonic and microwaves) can disrupt a victim to the point of making a remote (re)programming possible, even guiding a harmless person to commit one or more "convenient" crimes.

US Army toyed with telepathic ray gun https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn13513-us-army-toyed-with-telepathic-ray-gun/

REPORT: NONLETHAL WEAPONS COULD TARGET BRAIN, MIMIC SCHIZOPHRENIA https://www.wired.com/2008/02/report-nonletha/

Declassified: Bioeffects of selected non-lethal weapons: http://www.slavery.org.uk/Bioeffects_of_Selected_Non-lethal_Weapons.pdf

"U.S investigators have been searching for a device that may have caused the "sonic harassment," but an ongoing investigation hasn't revealed the culprit. "

U.S. Reveals Details Of Alleged 'Sonic' Attacks On Diplomats In Cuba http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/02/548128130/u-s-reveals-details-of-alleged-sonic-attacks-on-diplomats-in-cuba

Another health attack on diplomats in Cuba in August, U.S. confirms https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/09/01/another-health-attack-on-diplomats-in-cuba-in-august-us-confirms.html

FLASHBACK: Russians Beamed Microwaves At US Diplomats, And It Looks Like What Happened In Cuba

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/29/flashback-russians-beamed-microwaves-at-us-diplomats-and-it-looks-like-what-happened-in-cuba/

From my last post about the topic:

"Russian microwave assault on US embassy:"

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5fvhet/reminder_electronic_assaults_like_those_performed/**

Voice-to-Skull device had a page on the US Army website (now deleted): (Page saved by webarchive)

https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20040202140041/http://call.army.mil/products/thesaur/00016275.htm

"Court to Defendant: Stop Blasting That Man's Mind!"

https://www.wired.com/2009/07/court-to-defendant-stop-blasting-that-mans-mind/

"U.N. Investigates Electromagnetic Terrorism"

https://www.wired.com/2008/12/un-investigates/

Electromagnetic Weapons - Minister of National Defence for Poland (This is about unproven claims. couldn't find if Poland authorities got any information, no information released)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YgVs4-m0lNY

"MIT's 3-D Microwave Camera Can See Through Walls" IEEE

http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/semiconductors/optoelectronics/mits-3d-microwave-camera-can-see-through-walls

Doctorate Health Professionals Who Acknowledge Remote Influence Technology http://www.pactsntl.org/assets/Doctorate_Health_Professionals_Who_Acknowledge_Remote_Influence_Technology.pdf

I'll appreciate any addition from a credible source.

Back when CNN did actual journalism: CNN Special Report 1985 Electromagnetic Frequency Technology [13:26]

maybe a mylar (better than tinfoil) hat can in fact defend agains these ttaccks? haha

Try it and let us know. You seem like the kind of people that has a handler.

Says the guy who hoards these shit, a "handler" hahaahhaha

Your handler shouldn't pay you many food stamps for that low level trolling. Not even good.

Always thought this clip of Clinton apparently in a trance was creepy. His clip is about 1:20 in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt7r_XFMT_M&app=desktop

Artichoke.

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Great article thanks for posting

mk ultra is the reason i believe the "pizzagate" thing to be 100% true.

https://imgur.com/a/GMeAj

that, and the fact the every info on it gets aggressively taken down, in a so precise and organized manner that only people with alot of power are capable of.

plus, it's not the first time a pizza place has been used as child prostitution hideout. "jojo's pizza".

also, it's not the first time that hillary and bill clinton or their close friends the podesta brothers have been tied to child prostitution rings and sex offenders.

http://archive.is/ruHl6

if hillary and bill are indeed in the child sex ring, then the Don and his family damn sure are as well. birds of a feather..

I'm more interested in the mind experiments being conducted now. Too bad you have to be an insider to know about them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Ewen_Cameron

Dr. Donald Ewen Cameron (24 December 1901 – 8 September 1967) — was a Scottish-born psychiatrist who served as President of the American Psychiatric Association (1952–1953), Canadian Psychiatric Association (1958-1959), American Psychopathological Association (1963), Society of Biological Psychiatry (1965) and World Psychiatric Association (1961-1966). Notwithstanding his high professional reputation, he has been criticized for administering electroshock therapy and experimental drugs to patients without their informed consent. Some of this work took place in the context of the Project MKUltra mind control program.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Memorial_Institute

Cameron was an incalculably sick individual.

Cameron and Mengele were just as evil as Hitler. Maybe more so.

Yes.

Has there ever been any material declassified or leaked about the Soviet or Chinese equivalents of MKULTRA and the wider patronage of 60s counterculture by the CIA? Considering how much more "blatant" their totalitarian regimes during the era were it seems surprising that neither of those two countries ever made any attempt to engineer a new type of culture for the latter half of the 20th century. Which is strange considering they both had access to more or less the same resources as the US on that front and that they did compete with the US in much more resource-intensive fields of R&D like nuclear and ballistic missile programs. Counterculture, helped the US gain enormous influence over non-aligned nations and left communism fighting an uphill battle around the globe. Why didn't the communists attempt to artificially manipulate their culture and reinvent themselves into something that would be more popular? Or did they do that and it just didn't work?

Closest that I know of is the Maoist cultural revolution and destalinization but those were both blunt political initiatives carried out in public.

Yep. Just google "psychotronics". Also of interest is how communist used psychiatrists to undermine the west.

https://books.google.com.au/books?isbn=141161822X

I posted these earlier to this thread, but maybe I should have explained better.

Back when CNN did actual journalism: CNN Special Report 1985 Electromagnetic Frequency Technology [13:26]

It discusses Soviet and American technology. Note, this was in 1985, so the methods have certainly become more powerful and fine tuned.

This thread has some Nazi and Japanese experiments. Very sick stuff: Conspiracy facts: A brief history of human experimentation without consent.

Remember that the Japanese were not on our side back then.

Commenting so I can come back an post links later.

Last night after a quick sear h I found a video for forced fem that has pentagrams flashing throughout. If anykne wants to look into these things themselves there is a sub sissyhypno on here also a few forced fem subs.

What are everyone's thoughts on Kanye West post-breakdown?

Yep.

Do you think this will have any effect on his music

No idea unfortunately.

Listen to saint pablo (the song) and then listen to everything after.

I think the difference between Yeezus + saint pablo and his next album will show the most

Listen to saint pablo (the song) and then listen to everything after.

Saint Pablo is my favorite song on the album. It was released after the initial release so maybe that indicates something

This is also during the time he was speaking up at concerts and after that they took him to UCLA which is the place where MKUltra was developed

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Is it?

what truth did he tell? I vaguely remember listening to the concert rant, but could barely make out what he was saying.

Why would that happen?

Because he was speaking out against the establishment. Remember that "Kanye rant" at one of his gigs a few months ago? I'd recommend watching the whole thing

Who cares what a pop musician says though?

um basically 90% of the young generation which is currently who they are attempting to neuter and brainwash.

Pop stars are part of the establishments indoctrination of the younger generation so you should care. And the establishment definitely cares

Not what he says it's that he woke up so they modified him back into silence. The music industry competes with CIA for being the most vile mind controllers. When their slaves start to wake they get re-educated. Torture is another word for that.

Of course this thread turns into an ad for Vigilant Citizen blogspam.

Ever been on blogs before?

Ever seen controlled opposition before?

It may be controlled opposition, but there's still some really good info on the site. It was originally started by Mark Rockefeller but I don't know who runs it now.

It's straight disinfo.

Do elaborate.

If you do a reverse lookup on him, you'll find out he's actually a Google employee. Talk about fraud.

more like Vigilant Christian

But it's not really Christian, it seems more like VC is entertaining the Occult in an ironic or indirect way.

We should know how much control they have that Kanye can support Trump, promptly be declared "insane" by someone close to him, forcibly admitted to a hospital, and then re-emerges saying completely different things.

He took down all his tweets about trump a couple months into trumps presidency. Not sure if he really supports trump any more

It definitely was because he was taken to UCLA where Jolly West created much of the mkultra protocol.

It made him go blonde. As so many do when they have a 'breakdown'

Didn't he go to a facility known for "rehabilitating" celebrities who had "breakdowns"?

Yup. UCLA

I thought it was pretty weird how he met with then president-elect Trump just a few days after getting out of a psych hospital

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dTQSON9dSk

lots of programmed victims

miley cyrus (sex beta kitten)

marilyn monroe (sex beta kitten)

anna nicole smith (sex beta kitten)

most assassins who owned "catcher in the rye"

nicki minaj (beta sex kitten)

britney spears (beta sex kitten)

connor mcgregor (delta althlete)

katy perry seems to have somewhat broken free of it. with her newest album showing all kinds of imagery, dark horse, wide awake, bon appetit. also, jim carrey seems very aware, who knows if he has had close encounters with it.

Jim Carrey is one I'm not sure about. Katy perry, Taylor Swift, and Ke$ha all are still under control. I don't think big stars like them will ever get a chance to go back. Too tightly controlled - once you give the handlers control (Taylor) or they take it early on (Arianna) they're not going to let big public figures ever get free like they'd do a throwaway slave.

In case you haven't seen the recent documentary with Jim Carrey and is complete inability to break out of character. AKA DID (formerly known as MPD) is a primary symptom in trauma victims. Guess what is the primary method of mind control? TRAUMA

Its worth mentioning that there need not be a 'one single program' that all mind controll is controlled by. Many independent programs, cults, and buisinesses can deploy methods of controll... So if you have a music icon with a lot of people making money off them, it seems plausible that producers may want some controll over these artists as a sort of insurance. So there's that to keep in mind. That said i have very little doubt that programming of this sort is used in the music and media industry.

Reminds me of Love & Mercy (trailer), re Brian Wilson (Beach Boys). Dude got seriously long-played.

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This article is about the actress Celia Imrie's experiences of MKULTRA. I remember reading this when published in 2011, and finding it truly bizarre that she was disclosing this information.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1372700/My-electric-shock-nightmare-hands-CIAs-evil-doctor-Calendar-Girls-star-Celia-Imrie.html

This ones new to me! I had no idea that there were any British actors who had spoken out directly about mkultra. I might get my mum to watch Calendar Girls and bring this up in conversation.. she might find it more relatable and close to home.

Yeah, great idea, plus it's a good opportunity to have a conversation that includes both 'Acorn Antiques' and CIA brainwashing programs. Such a juxtaposition, it's like a British version of Woody Harrelson/JFK.

The Woody Harrelson thing is always great to bring up. It blows my mind how this information is available online to those who bother to look.

Sorry I'm late but do you have any links to the Harrelson stuff? New to me and genuinely curious.

Thanks!

Recommended reading in regards to MKUltra (or just the government in general) experimenting on children: http://truth-out.org/archive/component/k2/item/91211:the-hidden-tragedy-of-the-cias-experiments-on-children

Some "highlights":

From early 1940 to 1953, Dr. Lauretta Bender, a highly respected child neuropsychiatrist practicing at Bellevue Hospital in New York City, experimented extensively with electroshock therapy on children who had been diagnosed with "autistic schizophrenia." In all, it has been reported that Bender administered electroconvulsive therapy to at least 100 children ranging in age from three years old to 12 years, with some reports indicating the total may be twice that number. One source reports that, inclusive of Bender's work, electroconvulsive treatment was used on more than 500 children at Bellevue Hospital from 1942 to 1956, and then at Creedmoor State Hospital Children's Service from 1956 to 1969. Bender was a confident and dogmatic woman, who bristled at criticism, oftentimes refused to acknowledge reality even when it stood starkly before her.

One six-year-old boy, after being shocked several times, went from being a shy, withdrawn child to acting increasingly aggressive and violent. Another child, a seven-year-old girl, following five electroshock sessions had become nearly catatonic.

Years later, another of Bender's young patients who became overly aggressive after about 20 treatments, now grown, was convicted in court as a "multiple murderer." (before the word "serial killer" existed.. almost makes you think they were created OP's thoughts) Others, in adulthood, reportedly were in and of trouble and prison for a battery of petty and violent crimes. A 1954 scientific study of about 50 of Bender's young electroshock patients, conducted by two psychologists, found that nearly all were worse off after the "therapy" and that some had become suicidal after treatment. One of the children studied in 1954 was the son of well-known writer Jacqueline Susann, author of the bestselling novel "Valley of the Dolls." Susann's son, Guy, was diagnosed with autism shortly after birth and, when he was three years old, Dr. Bender convinced Susann and her husband that Guy could be successfully treated with electroshock therapy. Guy returned home from Bender's care a nearly lifeless child. Susann later told people that Bender had "destroyed" her son.

About the same time Dr. Bender was conducting her electroshock experiments, she was also widely experimenting on autistic and schizophrenic children with what she termed other "treatment endeavors." These included use of a wide array of psycho-pharmaceutical agents, several provided to her by the Sandoz Chemical Co. in Basel, Switzerland, as well as Metrazol, sub-shock insulin therapy, amphetamines and anticonvulsants... a public mental facility, reveal that Metrazol was administered to them by CIA contractor Dr. Robert Hyde on numerous occasions in order "to address overly aggressive behavior."

In 1955 and1956, *Dr. Bender began hearing glowing accounts about the potential of LSD for producing remarkable results in children suffering mental disorders, including autism and schizophrenia. Bender's earlier work with electroshock therapy had brought her into contact with several other prominent physicians who, at the time, were covert contractors with the CIA's MK/ULTRA and Artichoke projects. *

There is sooo much more, including this chilling personal story:

"During the 10 sessions, each of which involved an injection, my sister and I were kept in separate bedrooms, darkened rooms, usually with someone present in the room, but I don't know who the person was. Occasionally, my mother was also present. At times, I was so frightened by the hallucinations that I screamed and tried to escape from the room. I remember once actually reaching the hallway and being forcibly put back into the bedroom by my mother. I saw a wild array of images - nightmarish visions, occasionally provoking hysterical laughter, followed immediately by wracking sobs. I had no idea what was happening to me. It was terrifying....

"Although each individual session was often terrifying, any lasting effects of the LSD unfolded gradually. In the weeks immediately following the final session, I experienced frequent nightmares - visions of crawling insects, horrible masks, etc. I couldn't sleep. I was afraid to shut my eyes. I became afraid of the dark. My parents were dismissive and unsympathetic. Their attitude was, in some ways, more disturbing to me than the experiments themselves because it meant that my parents had known full well that the experience would very likely be frightening - and hadn't cared.

"Two years after these experiments, during her freshman year in college, my sister suffered a nervous breakdown. I don't know the extent to which the LSD may have precipitated this. But my parents' response to what was probably a mild breakdown from which my sister could have recovered, was coercive and drastic. She had been asking questions about the LSD at this time. She was angry about it. We both were. We talked about it together, but I was afraid to confront our parents. My sister was not. The angrier she became, the more she was 'diagnosed' as a 'psychiatric' case and the more medication she was given. To this day, my sister is heavily medicated. She never fully recovered from that first episode.

"Our parents responded to my sister's anger in a way that frightened me further. I also felt tremendous guilt for not being able to prevent the horrors that my sister endured. Once she was 'classified' as a psychiatric patient, she was lost. Everything that was done to her in the name of 'treatment' seemed to me to be a form of ongoing abuse and torture.

"The fact that our father was a prominent, internationally known and widely respected physician - and his brother, who had introduced us to this LSD horror, was a prominent, internationally known and widely respected psychiatrist - made it impossible to expose them or go against them. Their reputations were more important to them than the health and well being of my sister.

"Even when I subsequently confronted my father with the evidence that LSD had been tested by the CIA for use as a military weapon in the 1950s and 1960s, he dismissed his participation by saying that it was an 'enlightening experience, like visiting an art gallery.' When I pointed out that this was not my experience as a child, he dismissed it, including the presumption that I must be a 'conspiracy theorist' to propose such a thing. At the age of 91, he finally admitted that it had perhaps not been a very good idea to subject my sister and me to LSD.

http://truth-out.org/archive/component/k2/item/91211:the-hidden-tragedy-of-the-cias-experiments-on-children

In 1960, Abramson conducted his own LSD experiments on a group of six children ranging in age from five to 14 years of age.

Further experiments:

Her initial group of young subjects consisted of 14 children diagnosed schizophrenic, all under the age of 11. (Because diagnostic criteria for schizophrenia, autism, and other disorders have changed over the decades, one cannot assess what actual conditions these children really had.) There were 11 boys and three girls, ranging in age from six to ten years old.

Jean Marie is almost seven years old. She came here nearly a year ago after her parents abandoned her to the care of an aunt who had no interest in raising her. Marie, who prefers to be called Jean, is shy, withdrawn, and distrustful of most adults she encounters. There are reports she may have been sexually molested by her uncle ... Despite her withdrawn nature she smiles easily, and enjoys the company of other children. After receiving LSD on three occasions earlier this month, Marie ceased smiling at all and lost any interest in others her age ... In the past week, she seems to have become easily agitated and has lost any interest in reading, something she seemed to very much enjoy before treatment.

StarGate was certainly an offshoot of MKultra, but did they achieve anything?

StarGate the TV Show? I only ask because my "mentally ill" brother like watching that show and bought many if not all the box sets. It just occurred to me that the tv show stargate had a lot of hypnotic/occultish themes and haven't seen it in like a decade.......

Straight from the source (its under FOIA):

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00789R003300210001-2.pdf

TL;DR CIA's official paranormal investigations

The movie especially is chock full of occult references.

MK Ultra is done nowadays via EMR remote technology. See this book for more info:

http://thoughtlessness23.blogspot.com.au/

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Autograph my chest?

Thank you so much for the Wikileaks link. Do you know is there any more than these software descriptions?

The leak and "Vanguard device" is probably just a wild guess, as this is probably the Vanguard device the leak is talking about. However in my other comment you can see the rest of the story about modern MKULTRA isn't just an assumption or guess.

How does the infected computer send beacon messages? Wi-Fi chips have bluetooth and radiofrequency too. Or is the beacon sent ultrasonically? If so, could this be badBIOS?

Maybe it doesn't and don't require much energy, like Snowden leaked information about ANT devices that are passive, requiring an "illuminating" device to work that gather the information.

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also known as the "voice of god" weapon. as they call it, "synthetic telepathy".

This shit is crazy

https://youtu.be/3yfOhwF0DV8

Their response. It's all horse shit, what her and her husband are saying...

Wow, didn't know there was a response vid. I am away from home with no wifi, any chance you could plz give a summary?

I remember this!!! Any updates I wonder?

Wow, I wonder what she really said? Their explanation (she just went crazy!) is clearly a cover-up; even uses the same dubbed video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1Nih7at8eQ

Here is an archive of official MKULTRA documents:

https://archive.org/details/mkultrafiles

ooh, acid rock, man. These days, parents are dumb enough to give their kids mind scrambling pills that allow their souls to be malleable by retail managers skilled via mind control tutoring conferences.

These topics are all great, I'm interested most in mind control on children. 1996 presidential commission victims said they were raped, electrocuted, tie into cages, sensory deprIVed and irradiated. Children were held in cages and murdered in satanic ritual abuse procedures as part of terrorizing the survivors. Trauma based mind crreated sexual slaves used to ensnare powerful people on film with babies and children if a citizen did this we would use the penalty.

Ongoing project

What's the conspiracy with Burning man? Curious

Honestly throw a dart at some ideas and youre probably right l

Mind control is spiritually based in that demons are instilled into a person during trauma and then called forth to take over that person's consciousness and make them perform as required. In the Bible, in Acts 16, the apostles encounter a woman whom we could say fits this description. "And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: the same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation. And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour." (Acts 16:16-18)

Although the demon in this case gave the skill of divination, demons have been rumored to give other skills, for example: musical instrument performance, physical strength, telepathy, remote viewing, intelligence, foreign language fluency, and "photographic memory". When reading about famous people, many will speak multiple languages at a young age or have photographic memories. Robert Johnson was just one of a great many musicians rumored to have sold his soul for musical talent. Svali, who claimed to be an Illuminati defector, said that her fluency in multiple languages stopped when she placed faith in God's only son, Jesus Christ.

This makes a good bit of sense to me.

If this is true then why are there no actual victims of mkultra just being healed instead they have to be deprogrammed

And if you talk about it, people will say that the project was a 'failure' and research was abandoned because that's what the CIA and gov officials told them.

Did they really expect for the CIA and gov to come out and say, "hey guys we were successful with our mind control experiments!".

Did they really think that they would stop the pursuit of achieving mind control? It is like the ultimate weapon.

Organized religion is the original mind control. How else can you get someone to be willing to kill themselves and others in the name of an invisible all mighty being for favors in the afterlife. Of course there is something in the human mind that allows it to be exploited and controlled.

I've got FOIA-obtained documents on /r/psychotroncis, that prove the CIA was successful in creating mind controlled killers that wouldn't even remember they killed.

It looks like "/r/psychotroncis" is not a subreddit.

Maybe you're looking for /r/psychotronics with a 95.38% match.


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Like Sirhan Sirhan?

I've been MKULTRA'd too many times to count, am permanently punch drunk by it. But then again who isn't if they use the internet, or even just their cellphone, with any regularity?

MK Ultra is old news guys. Much bigger and farther reaching programs now that are almost undetectable to most people

Do share!

Project Monarch is a good place to start in your research

I think that the lasting effects have to do with what was learned and how it was applied going forward.

I wouldn't consider MK Ultra 'old news,' but more like 'square one' of a lot projects.

Anyone interested in this topic should torrent William Sargant book, 'Battle for the Mind: the Physiology of conversion and mind control.'

Keep this thread open for ever.

This.

Hi there. I am an MKULTRA survivor and have put together this website https://deprogramwiki.com/

I have authored 'Deprogramming Modalities for Trauma Mind Control Survivors' which is completely original work in detecting and undoing this MKULTRA mind control.

I was tempted to try ask to do an AMA on here, however I am unsure if it's safe enough - as in, wont get downvoted to oblivion then deleted for an obscure reason.

Feel free to AMA here, I have already have done some basic Q and A on Reddit, which you can see in my updates on the site.

as in, wont get downvoted to oblivion then deleted for an obscure reason.

hey there! I see no reason why you shouldn't do an AMA...the mods here are dedicated to protecting our AMA guests from abuse and trolls.

Thanks! Maybe I should post a main thread with the site and some info about myself. I am certain that anyone who looks into my username here, and also the site - after asking any questions - I can prove I am legit easily enough just based on the knowledge I currently have.

How recently were you mk ultrad? Was it near dc?

I am originally from Australia. There also isn't any 'recently' MKULTRA'd persons. Sure there are some lighter things they can do, however the genuine trauma mind control the MKULTRA project was about - the person needs to be less then six years of age for the personality to split properly, as the ego isn't solidified before that age.

I believe anyone who says they had a normal life then all of a sudden were 'MKULTRA'd' when they were older are either two things. Making it up, or they have being programmed since childhood. It is one or the other and never inbetween.

Which questions? out of curiosity

You can click into my username here to see some Reddit Q and A I have done previously.

I'm sorry but could you point me in the right direction? Don't have the time to dig through your entire comment history, my bad

Sure thing. The Reddit Q and A's I have included in the news updates for the website. If I do more I may separate them into their own category.

For now however you can read these here, https://deprogramwiki.com/tag/qanda/ - I have tagged the obvious question and answer posts with the QandA tag.

My username history here might have some more things which aren't on the website. However the more interesting serious questions - I hope to translate it all to the website eventually.

Theoretically, couldn't an adult be MKULTRA'd if they were temporarily reduced to a <6 year old state of mind via mass doses of psychedelics / trauma ?

Interesting question!

I'd have to say no.

In any case hypnosis would be the basis of reducing a persons mind to regress like that, regardless of what trauma or drugs are involved, age regression is achieved by hypnotic suggestion regardless.

Six years old is the age where a childs' ego starts to solidify for lack of a better word. After this it becomes very hard to split the personality due to the mind being used to the single personality. Also before the age of six years, this is when the child takes in the most information learning wise about their surroundings.

So for a non programmed person it is hard to split any personalities even with age regression, drugs and trauma due to the ego being already solidified. So to make it short, hypnotic suggestion cannot 'undo' this ego state to be broken.

Needless to say it is still possible for accessors, or any of these cults who have this access to mind control to still use non programmed persons in a way where they are unaware. This is generally done through intelligence agencies as the front.

Obviously if this is the case, then it will be extremely low level related activities, meaning 'non hierarchy' - compared to persons programmed from birth successfully generally have 'hierarchy' programming and therefor considered less disposable.

I'm going to be harsh here, but this is my honest opinion. Your wiki features disinformation, non-credible cases, and highly triggering material. No, you cannot magically deprogram yourself over a short time period or with special codes. Your writing is near incomprehensible in places. You aren't doing anyone, least of all survivors, any favors.

This is alright, in fact I welcome this kind of criticism as it allows me to clear up a few points.

Please inform me of which is disinformation? And also of which cases are non credible? Even Svali and Fritz Springemeier have personally commented to myself that the wiki is a very good resource, with Fritz commenting that this is "progress" and a "badly needed resource".

If you have no idea who these two people are then I suggest you stop typing.

If you read at the very top of the Wiki page, and also throughout there is a heavy warning regarding triggering content. This is very obvious and given the fact that we are dealing with this, how can one 100% avoid triggering content?

The Deprogram Wiki is for everyone. Survivors, therapists and curious persons who wish to learn more.

There is no way to magically deprogram onesself over a short time. You are right. If you actually read my material properly I already say this. It takes several years, and the approach I have is without the use of any codes.

Given the fact that I have received excellent feedback with personal feedback from survivors themselves thanking me for my work. Also the fact that I am a survivor, I find your last statement somewhat insulting.

For example here is some feedback I have just received. "I found the "How Programming can Influence your Thoughts" section most interesting and relevant."

If you would take the time to actually read the website properly, instead of glancing over it and formulating these speculative and false opinions.

That was uncapped for.

Honestly these troll schills need to put in more effort. yawn

Line them up and I'll smash them as I just did above haha.

I've got your back :)

I'm not saying everyone is doing this here but quite often I see people demonizing LSD when they bring up MKULTRA or claim that the entire counterculture movement of the 60s was because of MKULTRA which I think are two positions that obviously disingenuous to anyone who has actually done LSD, at least more than once or twice. Although they very well may have contributed to the culture of the 60s and introduced LSD to a lot of people who then introduced it to others I think if you look into historically you find that most of the people experimenting with LSD in the 50s were psychologists who bought LSD straight from Sandoz and then they introduced it to friends. Rick Doblin highlights this cultural movement among psychologists and psychiatrists in his many interviews and the fact they were doing this research at Universities and involving grad students creates the perfect atmosphere for a cultural spread of psychedelic culture that was the 1960s.

Obviously such powerful substances as LSD can be used to torture individuals or possibly induce psychic phenomena such as shared hallucinations but I keep seeing people blame MKULTRA when actresses in Hollywood have a breakdown or even attribute Marxism to LSD which I think is illogical and disingenuous. Most people have enlightening experiences when they try psychedelics and most psychedelic enthusiasts tend to be in support of individual freedom above all else. That's not to say that people havent lost their minds on LSD or it cant cause delusions and there is evidence that at least a few serial killers and murderers were part of the MKULTRA program including the infamous "uni bomber."

The Last Podcast On The Left did an ep on it that has some decent info. I find them irritating though. They also did a pretty thorough series on the Franklin Coverup which they kinda tie in to MK Ultra

Hail Yourself

A compilation of research into Project MKULTRA, as well as its precursors and subprojects (one in particular being unverified, however plausible):

Excellent, thank you!

You're welcome. Glad I could be of service.

The Empire Files did a good 30 minute piece on the human tests conducted by the US military on it's own troops since WW2. The MK Ultra program pretty much shaped the way the military conducts experiments on unsuspecting US soldiers to this day.

Mkultra was allowed to be revealed in order to protect project artichoke.

Yes, this even used to be in the wikis on Artichoke and MKUltra, specifically calling Ultra a "limited hangout." All wiki entries on mind control programs and psychotronics have been curiously neutered though- even when citing gov't documents like the .mil paper "The Mind Has No Firewall."

How was that plan supposed to work?

Well considering the fact that almost nobody has heard of project artichoke wouldn't you say it would have worked

I have here a Tiger Whistle. When I blow this Tiger Whistle, it emits a powerful waveform that repels tigers. In case you had not noticed, there are NO tigers anywhere near us. That's the power of the Tiger Whistle.

Why do you say this? So little seems to be known about the actual chronology of the mind control programs and their relation to one another. I have often thought MKUltra was a limited hangout as well since so much was purposefully hidden. I wonder if the story about the known records only surviving due to mis-categorization are true? If they are then that would mean MKUltra is a limited hang out.

can you tell us more about project Artichoke?

Here's a link to a 2015 film called "CIA Covert Experiments."

https://www.amazon.com/CIA-Covert-Experiments-Olivier-Pighetti/dp/B01G96P9IQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1505208776&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=cia+covert+experiments

  • In 1951 the CIA sprayed a French village with LSD to test LSD as a combat weaon on the battlefield.

Quote: "It is August 1951 and an entire French village goes crazy. People are screaming in the streets and throwing themselves out of windows. 300 people are affected and 7 end up dead. 60 years later declassified documents from the United States reveal that the CIA conducted experiments on unsuspecting citizens."

You can watch the film for free with a free 30-day trial if you're not an Amazon Prime member.

Is there any risk in writing a fictional story that involves MK-Ultra?

Probably. Haha.

Thoughts on MK-Ultra techniques and their use in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay>

Kind of random, but I don't know where to put this. Anyway, I just want to say that this really is one of the best moderated subs I've seen, especially for such a contraversial topic. Seriously, I haven't seen anyone banned just for disagreeing with a conspiracy, which is honestly not what I expected when I first came here. It's much more interesting to read about these things when you can see the counterarguments, instead of just a string of deleted comments. Even though I don't really believe in most of these, I'm still a lot more persuaded than I would otherwise be.

Anyway, just thanks to the mod team for being cool.

MKULTRA wasn't about manchurian candidates, it was about social engineering. The entirety of the 1960s counterculture was engineered by the CIA. https://www.gnosticmedia.com/manufacturing-the-deadhead-a-product-of-social-engineering-by-joe-atwill-and-jan-irvin/

So much shill evidence on Youtube to muddy the waters. Targeted Individuals, post your court-worthy evidence?

I think the most telling, modern day example for the continuation of MKUltra experiments was the Fort Lauderdale airport shooting.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2017/01/ft_lauderdale_airport_shooting_suspect_he_went_to.html

The suspect apparently went into an FBI office in Alaska and complained about hearing voices in his head telling him to watch ISIS recruitment videos.

If so many people know for a fact this is going on, how is this allowed to continue/what's the point of it continuing if it's supposed to be a secret(ish) tactic?

i was given drugs by undercover police at two festivals this summer that were not as advertised.

well the second ones i didnt take but hid.

im being followed and harassed, a woman i was dating was an undercover or private security

i am trying to get the word out at more than a little risk to myself

the rainbow gathering in oregon was a complete police operation, hundreds of undercovers there on day 1 pretending to be campers.

i am concerned my account may be silod so only police see my posts, all responses to me have been suspect.

if this is the way it goes down i dont want to be part of the future, just mazes of lies as far as the eye can see.

i absolutely loathe rainbows

beg for others' generosity so you can harass more people? nah, fuck off rainbows. do some good, rather than beg for others' generosity.

fucking bums

That moment you realize you're an undercover cop.

How are you being harassed? Sounds like you could be suffering from drug induced psychosis

All of these programs are ultimately being formulated and directed by humans based in the Astral Dimension who work for the Alien Archons. Mind Control implemented during the subjects dream state by way of Astral Travel done by initiates of the arcane "Mystery Schools" paved the way for this 100 years ago.

https://augtellez.wordpress.com/mkultra-release/

this link has pdf's of original documents that are worth saving

I think that so far at this point... and with the advance technology the Government has... we all are part of the MKUltra programming. In Fact, i think we are being programmed while we watch Game Of Thrones, The Superbowl, The Primetime news, Radial waves that our smart TVs, PCs and Smartphones transmit throughtout the air ... Subliminal Imagery and Sounds our unconsicious mind can easily catch without us ever knowing about it... Sound notes and words that trigger a certain emotion and reaction in our central-nervous-system. Certain ingredients mixed up in our cans of Pepsi or in our starbucks coffee. Classified components that not even Doctors are aware of... Chemicals that come from the mixing of plants and artificial substances made inside the ClA labs back in the 50's... Lots of money, wealth and power is put into this by the Elites of the world (Bilderberg Group)... and the only clue we have to it... it's the one left into the 90's card game "Illuminati", someone who was inside the Elite or somehow got this information put it all away in a children's card game that nobody even ever played... with the hopes (or maybe because he felt sad about us) that we can have a little.... very very little... glimpse at our true reality. Just a tiny glimpse, a foolish and inmature glimps at our existance.

In the latest episode of Porkins Policy Radio (second half of the podcast), Pearse Redmond discusses MK Ultra as it relates to Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City Bombing, Sirhan Sirhan, and potentially the 9/11 hijackers.

MKULTRA to me is the most boring conspiracy there is. Every thread on reddit that mentions conspiracy theories someone copy pastes a huge wall of text about "MKULTRA".

It's a horse beaten so dead it came back to life just to be beaten to death again.

Nice, Gonna watch that later

Wow, didn't know there was a response vid. I am away from home with no wifi, any chance you could plz give a summary?

Can you find another source for the transcript of this talk?

A lot of the segues are pretty fantastical and these allegations beget a ton of scrutiny.

I've been half tempted to contact the supposed DC Hammond and ask him about this speech

I was half hoping that link wouldn't show up in this thread. Seems too fanciful for me

Many of the points made in the Greenbaum speech re: color coding, Greek letters, etc seem hard to believe, but they emerged as a collection of memes emerging from private psychiatrists and psychologists comparing notes. There's one scholarly reference that puts the population so 'coded' at around 1.3k. This is where the False Memory Syndrome Foundation finds its way onto the scene in the early 90s.

Gunther Russbacher supposedly corroborated this, but fortunately there's enough evidence for it now that we don't have to take his word. I don't believe any of the circumstances surrounding Russbacher & Paul Wilcher have ever been proven out one way or another to a meaningful degree, tho.

What do you mean

This might be the single most important thing you can ever read when trying to answer the "why" behind both ritual abuse and MkUltra

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The Woody Harrelson thing is always great to bring up. It blows my mind how this information is available online to those who bother to look.

Sorry I'm late but do you have any links to the Harrelson stuff? New to me and genuinely curious.

Thanks!

I'm sorry for what you went through.

I miss the moose.

Probably. Haha.

Late to the party, I know, but found something weird. This was def a very interesting, albeit confusing read. Decided to look up DC Hammond (the speaker) and he has a website: http://www.neurofeedbackslc.com

It seems that he is now focused on neurofeedback. Not a word is mentioned about MPD, ritual abuse or programming. Was kind of expecting more...looks like he just straight up abondened all that stuff? The plot thickens.

Autograph my chest?