What's your position on extra terrestrial life? Are they part of the same shit just different pile?

Kind of... we are actually sons of G-d and the fallen angels are cross breeding with us. The watchers begat the giants that begat the nephilim or something. ETs are just interdimensional beings.

You should read the book of enoch... ...before sept 23

Well when you know that constantine, catholic church and the council of nicea collaborated to release bible 2.0 by taking out 11 (?) Books of the old testament and 16 (?) Books from the new testament then surely there are gaps in our knowledge.

Gospels of thomas, book of enoch. Etc.

the nag hammadi library codices are Good Stuff if you know how to read between the lines. The cosmology they paint is like the exact opposite of standard christian theology, it's metal as fuck and it has some eerie overlap with our modern age if you think of the NWO conspiracy as being the culmination of the archontic plan to corrupt humanity some of the texts mention.

We're already in the end times... and i got here by conspiracy theorying ;).

They are faking the end times and the apostles and prophets saw it because of astral projection which allows them to see in the future or past. Thry are using HAARP to do the hurricanes and earthquakes and they will fake an alien invasion/rapture/coming of jesus with project blue beam.

If you like esoteric works you should read thoths emerald tablets. He also speaks of it and hes regarded as a great mage in the occult world who was reincarnated twice and his final reincarnation was as hermes trimegistrus or thrice great.

I read it... it is the book of enoch but from thoths eyes. They are literally looking at us.

See, I had the opposite path in. I was an atheist that started experimenting with fasting for health reasons and then decided to try to see if using spiritual practices outside of a structured context would produce results. They did, I had some extremely amazing, unsettling, life altering experiences and then as part of integrating what I experienced I found a bunch of conspiracy theory stuff that dovetailed remarkably well with what I felt like I had experienced.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure we're in the end times too, but which form they take is the big question. Knowing that 'they' are lying to you and to trust your own heart, intuition and feeling of what is right or wrong before even what your eyes show you will probably be extremely important when the shit really starts to go down.

I highly highly recommend thoths emerald tablets as well as the book of enoch.

You're missing souls from your equation. Maybe you don't believe in them, but I think they work nicely as a link between the physical body/person and the spirit. I basically think of them as the essence of the person on a spiritual level that's a unique personality as opposed to the spirit which I think of as the part of the person that is more or less merged with the collective totality and thus 'lacks' some of the individual distinction that a singular personality would have.

At our core, we're all creator gods, that, for whatever reason(I think it's collective self imposed trauma that damaged our memories and the psychic stability of humanity's collective consciousness, but your guess is as good as mine) have lost/forgotten our divine powers. The nature of miracles, weird 'matrix glitches' and a whole bunch of weird supernatural phenomena is actually a demonstration of the conscious mind's ability to sculpt reality both individually and collectively, but most of us aren't aware of this and those of us that are aren't always in a position to fully exploit it.

TPTB are fully aware of the hidden potentialities in the human body and mind and various factions have been working for longer than recorded history to steer/suppress/direct those abilities in specific ways, primarily with the goal of keeping people in the dark as to their true nature and actual abilities. The gateway to heaven lies within and so does the living word of the living god and both heaven's majesty and the true nature of god are far more incredible than any religious or spiritual system has taught us to believe. The 'god' within when fully awakened has access to the treasuries of heaven, but activating it is one hell of a task, one might even call it The Task and fundamental purpose for existence and it's nature and how to access and develop our connection to it has been hidden from us for a very long time.(In a technical sense, we actually hid this knowledge from ourselves rather than having it taken from us, but it's a bit of a mindfuck to go around in a conceptual place in which another person/group of people that terrorized/traumatized you and hid the truth from you are actually aspects of one's own divine nature 'hiding the truth'.)

One of the big tricks TPTB like to play with the consciousness stuff is to only encourage stuff that channels our consciousness into idealized psychically peaceful spaces, think monks meditating in caves, suffering pacifist martyrs Idealizing pacifists as being more spiritually evolved and other stuff like that. You can't productively control a lot of these forces if you're not coming from a position of inner peace, but the jesus imagery/iconography and the stuff like that from other spiritual leaders can also function as an insidious mental cage that results in one accepting their own psychic/conscious imprisonment here out of a mistaken belief in how exactly the unseen realms interact with the conscious mind.

If we were brave enough and awake enough, we would realize that the 'demons' 'angels' 'aliens' 'fairies' and all other manner of things of that nature actually 'work' for 'us'(pardon the excess of quotation marks). The concept is really quite hard to properly express since many spiritual entities take forms that match the expectations of the perceiver. The deceiver is ever present and deception is actually a major part of the reason for existing in a state of separation from 'god'. A consciousness can't train itself to remember it's true nature if it starts the journey with full knowledge and never needs to work to discern illusion from reality.

Anyway, there's my probably incoherent ramblings. I believe very strongly that something exceptionally big is coming down the pipeline in the next months or maybe 1-3 years. The full scope and scale of it is beyond anyone's ability to predict, because conscious mental states actually literally shift probability fields and alter potential possible futures, so once you realize that playing prophet beyond super vague 'we've got something fucking huge on its way' is a fool's errand.

Also, as a final aside. Always bet on jesus. I can't go into too much detail on this, because the reasoning is long, convoluted and unnecessary, but suffice to say it doesn't matter whether the stories about jesus are true, or if the entire religion is a huge fraud or whether you're an atheist. You can believe me or not, but there's an aspect of 'jesus' that pre-dates the actual figure that may or may not have existed and exists hidden within the minds of any conscious being. You can think of it as 'jesus' or 'the sun' or 'the son' or as a jungian psychoanalytic symbol for the self created child of god. There's a reason a lot of people who encounter 'psychotic delusions' start feeling like they're a reincarnation of christ or something like that and then feel all embarrassed after they come down. The truth is, everyone actually has the capability inside to access the same part of themselves that is represented by the jesus myth, but our understanding of hings has become so warped that people think of jesus as an external person as opposed to a narrative representation of an internal psychic force that always wins if it's allowed to do it's work. Each one of you is the son/sun/daughter of the living god inside you and never trust anyone who tries to distance you from it. I fucking hate priests and religious communities so much for this reason. They hide the real rules fro us and give us fake rules that they expect us to feel bad about deviating from, even though no one should need any rules beyond the one's imposed on them by their own little slice of the living word.

That's my story I hope you liked it....

Well effing put.

I'm starting to think that earth is really under cover hell Cuz all around me all I see is blood and bullet shells

Olanzapine time.

They are one and the same. The existence of an angel requires the existence of that whitebearded man in the sky with the largest porn collection. It just means we need more pills.

Existence has a ground state. It's intelligent, self aware, has the ability to produce energy from vacuum and it loves itself and other conscious minds unconditionally.

I can't actually 'prove' that any of those claims are real, but that's an omnipresent, omnibenevolent, all knowing god right there. No man or beard needed. It loves you unconditionally, but you have to learn how to 'talk' to it if you want to really have a fruitful relationship with it.

without physical conception

I'm going to give you some more quotes:

"All religion to the extent that it is meaningful must be interpreted esoterically. Do you think a virgin birth is literal? No, of course not. It's so silly that it is meant to provoke you to question what the symbolism could be.

Christianity is correct to emphasize the virginal birth and sacrifice. What the virgin birth means is that he rose to consciousness outside of the mystery schools, which laid bare the fraud of them concealing knowledge. His entire life was lived as a sacrifice spreading the truth to ensure that connection to higher consciousness / the godhead would never be the exclusive possession of the corrupted schools."

Interesting points, thanks.

That civilisation, I believe, was rediscovered some time ago and will be used by TPTB to establish a new world order on the back of their technology and history.

Is this good or bad?

but it'll be at the price of freedom

Less and less freedom seems to me like a continuation of the old world we have now.

What about imagining a better future?

We could reforest the planet in a decade, provide food and water for all, even teraforming Mars could be done in our lifetime.

My man! Not all is lost :)

Depends what you mean by "the short term"...

I'd like to think that we'll have an orbital ring & space elevator & space based solar farm delivering vast amounts of cheap power within a decade.

I do hope I live long enough to see our species become space fairing.

Enjoy!

Do you believe God is a man in the sky?

Interesting. I just asked because I didn't know if you were part of the "billions who believe in that very concept," or if you believed something else. Yeah, that is an interesting take on things and I can see the reasoning there. Thanks for answering without assuming I was being hostile - so many people are quick to be a victim of a non-existent "verbal attack."

For sure, man. I have always found the fallen angels to be an interesting piece of information. Normal people don't talk ab out this stuff though. Lol that's why we come here or just have awesome friends who are open enough to actually entertain the idea and leave it open for discussion.

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Beware that duality is insane people fighting insane people. Duality is an illusion. Light vs dark is an illusion. It hides obvious lessons from our minds that facilitate evil. The faux light disarms us like HIV.

Evil is simply self-serving behavior even at the expense of others. All other things labeled evil are unfortunate experiences with causality in ignorance. Parasites are by definition self-serving at the expense of others. They infiltrate and undermine systems in order to serve themselves. They rely on deception and coercion to overcome the lack of consent for their behaviors. They knowingly choose to take freedom and value from others. It's their nature.

The real conflict is parasites vs their hosts. It's clear in this framing of the conflict that hosts do not need parasites, but parasites need hosts. Contrast this idea with what we're told about the light dark duality paradigm. We're told the dark must exist to even give value to the light. It's bullshit. No, the faux light needs to exist or we will do the natural instinctual thing which actually works to get rid of them. The faux light calls it dark to deter us from doing it. They'll say it's to prevent war. They aren't preventing the parasitic feeding that provoked the war though, how strange.

Every human and every complex organism has an immune system that identifies, targets and eliminates parasitically intentioned organisms. They need them, because opportunistic parasites will always emerge and when they do the organism deals with them effectively or suffers and dies. Why turn it off? Who benefits?

When most intelligent beings, even many animals, witness the behavior of parasitic beings, they have fear. They want to get away from them or kill them. As intelligent beings, we know intelligent parasites being free is a threat to freedom and value. When we see them operate we want to restrain or kill them, depending on the severity. This initial reaction is universal and doesn't have to be taught.

So, what is the merit in forgiving, instead of restraining or killing, parasitic beings that don't want to stop? Is that not a recipe for AIDS? (Autoimmune Deficiency Syndrome) won't that let parasitic diseases thrive? Why do we as consciousness want that outcome? Is there not a better way, that doesn't even need to be taught?

We should regard our corrective emotional attributes as sacred for our independence. How can we live free without them? Yet, the faux light would have us forsake fear, because it takes us out of love. Why not embrace its purpose? It's there to protect what we love. We fear that which threatens what we love. That is the way its supposed to work. Should we abandon it and be like the Eloi from the movie Time Machine? They didn't resist being harvested and consumed by an underground parasite species and they were beautiful. They remind me so much of what the faux light apparently wants for us. We are to be easy prey for the dark, cry, forgive them, and repeat.

Beware that duality is insane people fighting insane people. Duality is an illusion. Light vs dark is an illusion. It hides obvious lessons from our minds that facilitate evil. The faux light disarms us like HIV.

Evil is simply self-serving behavior even at the expense of others. All other things labeled evil are unfortunate experiences with causality in ignorance. Parasites are by definition self-serving at the expense of others. They infiltrate and undermine systems in order to serve themselves. They rely on deception and coercion to overcome the lack of consent for their behaviors. They knowingly choose to take freedom and value from others. It's their nature.

The real conflict is parasites vs their hosts. It's clear in this framing of the conflict that hosts do not need parasites, but parasites need hosts. Contrast this idea with what we're told about the light dark duality paradigm. We're told the dark must exist to even give value to the light. It's bullshit. No, the faux light needs to exist or we will do the natural instinctual thing which actually works to get rid of them. The faux light calls it dark to deter us from doing it. They'll say it's to prevent war. They aren't preventing the parasitic feeding that provoked the war though, how strange.

Every human and every complex organism has an immune system that identifies, targets and eliminates parasitically intentioned organisms. They need them, because opportunistic parasites will always emerge and when they do the organism deals with them effectively or suffers and dies. Why turn it off? Who benefits?

When most intelligent beings, even many animals, witness the behavior of parasitic beings, they have fear. They want to get away from them or kill them. As intelligent beings, we know intelligent parasites being free is a threat to freedom and value. When we see them operate we want to restrain or kill them, depending on the severity. This initial reaction is universal and doesn't have to be taught.

So, what is the merit in forgiving, instead of restraining or killing, parasitic beings that don't want to stop? Is that not a recipe for AIDS? (Autoimmune Deficiency Syndrome) won't that let parasitic diseases thrive? Why do we as consciousness want that outcome? Is there not a better way, that doesn't even need to be taught?

We should regard our corrective emotional attributes as sacred for our independence. How can we live free without them? Yet, the faux light would have us forsake fear, because it takes us out of love. Why not embrace its purpose? It's there to protect what we love. We fear that which threatens what we love. That is the way its supposed to work. Should we abandon it and be like the Eloi from the movie Time Machine? They didn't resist being harvested and consumed by an underground parasite species and they were beautiful. They remind me so much of what the faux light apparently wants for us. We are to be easy prey for the dark, cry, forgive them, and repeat.

In short the faux light gets us to believe we're not good enough unless we facilitate the parasitism and keep a positive attitude while doing it. They are part of the mind control apparatus.

Existence has a ground state. It's intelligent, self aware, has the ability to produce energy from vacuum and it loves itself and other conscious minds unconditionally.

I can't actually 'prove' that any of those claims are real, but that's an omnipresent, omnibenevolent, all knowing god right there. No man or beard needed. It loves you unconditionally, but you have to learn how to 'talk' to it if you want to really have a fruitful relationship with it.

We're already in the end times... and i got here by conspiracy theorying ;).

They are faking the end times and the apostles and prophets saw it because of astral projection which allows them to see in the future or past. Thry are using HAARP to do the hurricanes and earthquakes and they will fake an alien invasion/rapture/coming of jesus with project blue beam.

If you like esoteric works you should read thoths emerald tablets. He also speaks of it and hes regarded as a great mage in the occult world who was reincarnated twice and his final reincarnation was as hermes trimegistrus or thrice great.

I read it... it is the book of enoch but from thoths eyes. They are literally looking at us.

I highly highly recommend thoths emerald tablets as well as the book of enoch.

without physical conception

I'm going to give you some more quotes:

"All religion to the extent that it is meaningful must be interpreted esoterically. Do you think a virgin birth is literal? No, of course not. It's so silly that it is meant to provoke you to question what the symbolism could be.

Christianity is correct to emphasize the virginal birth and sacrifice. What the virgin birth means is that he rose to consciousness outside of the mystery schools, which laid bare the fraud of them concealing knowledge. His entire life was lived as a sacrifice spreading the truth to ensure that connection to higher consciousness / the godhead would never be the exclusive possession of the corrupted schools."