Remote Neural Monitoring
2 2017-09-14 by andreagiotti
I am an Italian PhD in computer engineering who is expert in the technology of Remote Neural Monitoring (or "artificial telepathy" or "synthetic telepathy"), which I fight fiercely. Is this the right place to discuss this topic with you? To introduce myself and the topic I suggest you the reading of the following articles:
54 comments
1 Zeno_of_Citium 2017-09-14
Make a free download link and we'll read it.
1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
The link on Scribd should be free, I don't earn money for downloads. If it is not, please tell me (and in case provide a screenshot).
1 Zeno_of_Citium 2017-09-14
Requires free reg to get download link and subscription to actually download.
https://unsee.cc/zodebasi/
1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
You can find them at:
https://controllomentaleblog.wordpress.com/
1 rockmandew 2017-09-14
What are you trying to discuss? Provide more of a topic to respond to after reading your papers.
1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
Remote Neural Monitoring is a technology based on a secret discovery of new physics. I am trying to understand it better and in particular I am trying to discover which dark matter particle is applied in this system. Discussing this topic in groups of physics is hard, since many scientists don't believe to mind control.
1 nyx_on 2017-09-14
What do you think about people talking about different 'time lines'?
1 microwavedindividual 2017-09-14
Electromagnetic waves are used. See the papers in the RNM wikis in /r/targetedenergyweapons. RNM can be shielded. See the RNM: Shielding wiki.
Are you confusing synthetic telepathy with RNM?
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1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
Sorry, but the information provided by me is not based on Web searches but on real scientific experiments. So you should think twice before talking of "disinformation". Moreover, I underline that the information carrier of RNM (which is exactly the same thing of "artificial" of "synthetic" telepathy) is not an ordinary electromagnetic wave, although peer review literature on the latter exists. Please reread everything with a different spirit.
1 microwavedindividual 2017-09-14
It should be. You would learn from scientific articles and papers. Apparently, you refused to read what I cited which were scientific articles and papers, meter reports, etc.
Where are your meter reports?
RNM is not synthetic telepathy.
Ultra wideband radar is an ordinary electromagnetic wave.
Take your own advice. Read what I cited. You are closed minded. You should take responsibility for intentionally disinforming.
1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
1) In the linked zip package you can find a qEEG in EDF format and much more. 2) Electromagnetic waves are ruled by Maxwell equations and their solutions are studied from more than a century. Frey effect or the work of Lin and Sharp prove that inducing voices is possible but awkward. This technology is precise, selective and incompatible with the constraints of electromagnetic waves for the ability to track a shielded target. If not targeted individuals could easily defend from it, which is not. 3) Who do you think to be to talk of "intentionally disinforming"? I am a PhD in my field, I have an experience of target individual and I suggest you to document much better before criticizing different points of view.
1 microwavedindividual 2017-09-14
What is your point about the qEEG?
The military spent billions developing ultra wideband radar and ground penetrating radar. radar accurately tracks. Did you read the papers I cited on radar monitoring and tracking. Did you read the Geo-stalking wikis including wireless sensor networks?
I already cited the Shielding: RNM wiki. Read it. Test it. shielding RNM is easy. I am wearing brain shielding while typing this.
Your field is not relevant.
Submit meter reports. See the meter wikis and the meter reports wikis in /r/targetedenergyweapons. Take measurements above your head, next to your ears and get a baseline measurement at the opposite end of the room.
I have. Read my meter reports and wikis.
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1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
1) The qEEG is not an image but it is in the form of raw data so it can be Fourier transformed for a frequency domain analysis. It shows brain response to external, superimposed signals. Please note that neither microwaves nor ultrasound can do this in any way. 2) Microwaves have to be targeted to a precise region of the head for V2K, but you cannot do so if target is hidden from view or shielded. 3) Ultrasounds don't penetrate walls and this closes the discussion about that and sonar. 4) Radars don't penetrate mountains, I made an experiment about hearing voices in the laboratory of Gran Sasso, which is a nuclear facility under a mountain and is fully shielded from electromagnetic waves. They did not share their measurements with me for state reasons. 5) My field is relevant because I know general engineering and not only computer one, so I had to study a lot of physics for gaining my degrees. Moreover, I have made peer reviewed research work and this proves the ability to do a scientific analysis. 6) Electromagnetic measurements don't reveal the information carrier, probably a WISP of dark matter, and are mostly useless in this field. I don't mind about the different opinion of many researchers on electronic harassment. 7) Searching the Web is not enough, you should check the assertions you can find there from a scientific point of view.
1 microwavedindividual 2017-09-14
Source? Papers on radiofrequency altering EEG:
[WIKI] Brain Zapping: EEG
https://www.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/3w9ed6/wiki_brain_zapping_eeg/
What is the region? Source?
Wireless sensor networks, ultra wideband radar and ground penetrating radar can see through walls. They can be attenuated by shielding materials.
[WIKI] Geo-Stalking: Radar can see through walls
https://np.reddit.com/r/TargetedEnergyWeapons/comments/3vjxlq/wiki_geostalking_radar_can_see_through_walls/
Source? Ultrasound definitely penetrates walls. Sonar includes ultrasound.
Ultrasonic neural dust can geo-stalk:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TargetedEnergyWeapons/comments/3qnhpm/wiki_implants_neural_dust/
ELF can penetrate mountains.
Ground penetrating radar can penetrate mountains that do not have wet clay soil or wet coal. GPR can penetrate volcanic mountains:
[WIKI] Shielding: Ground Penetrating Radar
https://www.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/70ko4n/wiki_shielding_radar_ground_penetrating_radar/
How is the lab shielded? Merely by being underneath a mountain? If so, the lab was not completely shielded. What was the outcome of your experiment?
You have not cited any engineering or physics. Where is your scientific analysis with references?
Did you make that up?
7) Searching the Web is not enough, you should check the assertions you can find there from a scientific point of view.
Take your own advice. I cited science. You did not.
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1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
"The 1400 metre-rock thickness above the Laboratory represents a natural coverage that provides a cosmic ray flux reduction by one million times; moreover, the flux of neutrons in the underground halls is about thousand times less than on the surface due to the very small amount of uranium and thorium of the Dolomite calcareous rock of the mountain.
The permeability of cosmic radiation provided by the rock coverage together with the huge dimensions and the impressive basic infrastructure, make the Laboratory unmatched in the detection of weak or rare signals, which are relevant for astroparticle, sub nuclear and nuclear physics."
1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
1) I said the qEEG "shows brain response to external, superimposed signals" but I should have added "locally" to the single functional area. If you succeed replicating such a pattern by microwaves please phone me. Anyway, to influence brainwaves in a much more systemic way, microwaves have to be so strong to affect also domestic electronics up to the point of possibly burning them, as it happens with LIDA machine.
2) The precise region of the head to be hit by microwaves is shown in the original article of Allen Frey and I suppose you know it. Have your radars enough resolution to target it and track it while you are moving? Remember that a single person moving in a crowd can be affected.
3) Ultrasounds reflect on walls and the proof is that they can be used to measure distances with big accuracy by their reflections on surfaces. What other considerations do you need? Infrasounds can penetrate walls, but are not directional and hit everybody in the room.
4) ELFs cannot be modulated in amplitude in the vocal range of frequencies since some theorem of information theory requires an higher frequency carrier for such a bandwidth, which is in the range of KHz. Again, if your radar succeeds in penetrating Gran Sasso up to the laboratory underneath it you should phone me.
5) The laboratory is EM shielded in such a way that only some rare muon, neutrinos and (perhaps) dark matter can enter it. This because experiments conduced there need to be isolated by every interference from the environment. An example of experiment conduced there is neutrino oscillation. As I premised, "They did not share their measurements with me for state reason" but I was clearly able to hear my "voices" also there for a prolonged time.
https://www.lngs.infn.it/en
6) A prototype and incomplete analysis is included in the paper you have already read but it is necessary to determine the exact carrier of information, before performing any deepening or calculation. This is baffling because also official science is doubtful about the constituents of dark matter. High energy neutrinos could be apt or not, depending from the energy of the beam, but they seem unlikely.
7) A single, simple experiment can exclude a lot of candidates to the role of information carrier for the RNM system. It is much more worthy that a thousand of uncertain EM measurements, which are always under the level of biological alert or so.
1 microwavedindividual 2017-09-14
Previously, I pointed out your files are on dropbox and dropbox requires an account to download. I do not have a dropbox account. I asked you to upload on imgur.com. You replied the qEEG is not an image. Therefore, copy and paste the text of the qEEG into a comment.
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1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
1) The qEEG is in form of raw data and cannot be pasted in a comment. If you want to read it make a Dropbox account which is free.
2) See the the previous answer on method in discussions.
3) I don't need thermal effect, but currents induced in conductors by a modulated microwave beam. They should be enough to blow the chip junctions in not shielded consumer electronics. If not intense enough, microwaves don't affect EEGs.
4) I never said ultrasound cannot transmit voices, I said they were not apt for such an application as targeting somebody from outside a closed room. It is quite different. I think you are disinforming about my contribution to the debate. Anechoic chambers have a different purpose in engineering.
5) ELFs are not apt to bring mental voices for reasons already discussed. Also gamma rays could penetrate rock, but are not apt also them and I cannot see why to introduce them in the discussion. You need an higher frequency carrier. Higher frequencies, your pseudo-ELF, are filtered by the rock as the microwave beam which act as a carrier.
1 microwavedindividual 2017-09-14
1) The qEEG is in form of raw data and cannot be pasted in a comment.
Scan the qEEG into jpg format. Upload the jpg file to imgur.com.
Dropbox requires an email account. How much junk emails do they send? Do they resell account information?
2) See the the previous answer on method in discussions.
What point are you trying to make? Because microwave auditory effect needs to target a region of the brain, remote neural monitoring does not use regular EMF? MAE is not RNM.
You should retract your claim. Why did you bring up thermal effect and Lida machine?
False. Previously, I cited the EEG wiki.
https://np.reddit.com/r/Electromagnetics/comments/3w9ed6/wiki_brain_zapping_eeg/
Furthermore, altering EEGs is not remote neural monitoring. EEGs do not need to be altered to conduct RNM.Altering EEGs is brain zapping. A completely different topic. See the brain zapping wikis in /r/targetedenergyweapons and /r/electromagnetics.
You refused to read my sources. You reiterate your baseless theories. Do you believe by reiterating your baseless theories, you will brain wash Redditors?
4) I never said ultrasound cannot transmit voices,
I moved the discussion on ultrasound to:
https://np.reddit.com/r/TargetedEnergyWeapons/comments/714f1d/ultrasound_voice_fm_ultrasound_shielding_andrea/
Move your comment there and I will reply.
5) ELFs are not apt to bring mental voices for reasons already discussed.
No. The depth of the rock near the door is considerably less than the depth at the top of the room. The photo depicts a shiny door. Steel or aluminum. ELF, ultra wideband radar and ground penetrating radar penetrate steel and aluminum. voices are not RNM. ELF conducts RNM.
1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
Please read my reply in the other thread.
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1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
"The 1400 metre-rock thickness above the Laboratory represents a natural coverage that provides a cosmic ray flux reduction by one million times; moreover, the flux of neutrons in the underground halls is about thousand times less than on the surface due to the very small amount of uranium and thorium of the Dolomite calcareous rock of the mountain.
The permeability of cosmic radiation provided by the rock coverage together with the huge dimensions and the impressive basic infrastructure, make the Laboratory unmatched in the detection of weak or rare signals, which are relevant for astroparticle, sub nuclear and nuclear physics."
1 microwavedindividual 2017-09-14
Always cite the reference you quoted.
Did the lab conduct a meter test?
You should edit your article to identify this particular mountain. ELF and ground penetrating radar can penetrate other mountains.
You did not state whether you experienced microwave auditory effect inside the mountain. Microwave auditory effect is heard out loud. What did you hear out loud?
You thread jacked your own post which makes it difficult to comprehend your points and to debate. Your post is on RNM. You thread jacked on microwave auditory effect which is not RNM. Your theory is EMF is not deployed to conduct RNM but your sole evidence is microwave auditory effect in a mountain which is not RNM. Your theory that RNM does not deploy EMF is meritless.
1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
Such a laboratory cannot have windows for obvious reasons and it has only one door. A 2-way dialogue has been performed from there and this proves the ability to read and write brain currents from outside by Remote Neural Monitoring, which is not Frey effect or other things but a completely new and secret technology on which you cannot find peer reviewed references.
1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
Such a laboratory cannot have windows for obvious reasons and it has only one door. A 2-way dialogue has been performed from there and this proves the ability to read and write brain currents from outside by Remote Neural Monitoring, which is not Frey effect or other things but a completely new and secret technology on which you cannot find peer reviewed references. About the door I will provide an image.
1 microwavedindividual 2017-09-14
RNM is an one way dialogue, not a two way dialogue. Synthetic telepathy is two way.
The papers in the RNM wikis I cited used regular EMF. Read them.
I can guess the material but not the thickness. Steel or aluminum. Neither steel nor aluminum shield ELF, ultra wideband radar, ground penetrating radar, magnetic near field or ultrasound.
1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
Please read my reply in the other thread.
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1 microwavedindividual 2017-09-14
No. Radar is not new physics. Radar performs RNM.
No dark matter
The papers in the RNM wikis in /r/targetedenergyweapons performed RNM. All the papers useed electromagnetic waves.
You are not using scientific terms. Scientists do believe. The papers in the RNM wikis are peer reviewed.
[WIKI] Remote Neural Monitoring: Silent Speech (Reading targets' thoughts)
https://np.reddit.com/r/TargetedEnergyWeapons/comments/66ldn4/wiki_remote_neural_monitoring_silent_speech/
[WIKI] Remote Neural Monitoring: Visual images are decoded via remote fMRI.
https://np.reddit.com/r/TargetedEnergyWeapons/comments/66zdqm/wiki_remote_neural_monitoring_visual_images_are/
[WIKI] RNM: Radar imaging and monitoring of humans (Papers)
https://np.reddit.com/r/TargetedEnergyWeapons/comments/6byv4x/wiki_dew_radar_imaging_and_monitoring_of_humans/
[WIKI] Remote Neural Monitoring
https://np.reddit.com/r/TargetedEnergyWeapons/comments/53al42/wiki_remote_neural_monitoring/
[WIKI] RNM: Patents on remote neural monitoring
https://np.reddit.com/r/TargetedEnergyWeapons/comments/6bsp5l/wiki_rnm_patents_on_remote_neural_monitoring/
1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
We have clearly different point of views. No paper but Akwei file described the exact technology of RNM, which is the technical term for artificial or synthetic telepathy.
Some scientists believe to mind control, some others don't. By the way, which term I have used seems to be "not scientific" to you?
I think I have been also too much precise in this discussion.
1 microwavedindividual 2017-09-14
Not views. I cited science. You have not.
Akwei did not write a paper. He filed a lawsuit in the 1990s. The complaint did not describe the exact technology.
The RNM wikis I cited several times in your post have described the exact technology. Publishers of journals require that.
1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
It's a different approach: you prefer linking your own wikis on the topic (with some content peer reviewed but some other which are not of refer to obsolete patents), I prefer reasoning about the facts with the help of knowledge you can find in any university text. I will not lose my time in searching for documents in support of my point of view, since they are either widely known (properties of ELFs, microwaves and ultrasound) or very difficult to find and discuss (as the ones on dark matter properties). The reader can judge by documenting himself the correctness of my arguments. The feedback I privately receive seems to confirm this. Your will of making pass this discussion as disinformation is suspect, because I never attacked you before while you seems to be animated by an obscure motivation.
1 microwavedindividual 2017-09-14
The wikis are not my own wikis. The wikis are /r/targetenergyweapons'. The wikis archived posts in this sub. The content of the posts in the wikis are not just peer reviewed papers or patents. The content consists of meter reports, shielding reports, scientific articles, etc.
You keep yourself ignorant and you are attempting to make TIs ignorant.
To establish facts, sources must be cited. You refuse to cite sources even university texts.
You lost credibility.
Obviously not. Your refusal to cite sources makes others suspect you are inept.
You will need to find if you want credibility.
Readers have judged your post. Your post has a mere 11 upvotes in a sub of 490,201 subscribers. I didn't vote.
Information without sources can be disinformation. You refused to cite sources in /r/conspiracy, /r/psychotronics and /r/targetedenergyweapons. You refused to read my sources. You refused to debate my sources. Reason to call your post out as disinformation.
That is not a personal attack. I did not insult you or bully you.
I do not have an obscure motivation. I believe you do. You intentionally equate RNM with synthetic telepathy and microwave auditory effect. You disinformed that they cannot be shielded.You refuse to use meters. You are unduly influencing TIs from meter measuring and shielding. You are encouraging TIs to suffer and not have credibility. Meter reports grant credibility.
1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
If I am ignorant and inept it would be easy for you to answer to my objections. To be sincere, the continuous need of citing some other author suggests you are not too much capable to discuss the physical basis of these phenomena by yourself. Instead, I try to do this with all my limits but without arrogance.
By the way, I don't believe too much in the system of Reddit upvotes or Facebook likes. Few but meaningful messages are more valuable for me.
Is there a business behind target individuals? For me, each one can decide by himself which kind of measurements wants to do. My personal opinion is that traditional electromagnetic measurements are useless as traditional shielding, but I don't sell remedies. Do you? In fact, in a scientific discussion is strange to be accused of something I have never stated, even if I share it.
1 microwavedindividual 2017-09-14
I did.
You have the duty to substantiate your theories. You placed your burden on to your readers.
Fewer Redditors read low upvoted posts. Reddit removes low upvoted and downvoted posts from the front page and from Reddit's search engine. Your post would disappear if it were not for me linking to it in /r/targetedenergyweapon and archiving it in a wiki in the wiki index.
Have you taken measurements? If so, submit a meter report. If not, what is your opinion based on? Have you read meter reports by TIs? If not, you are ignoring crucial evidence.
What did you not state?
1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
The point is: how the target's brain currents can be read and influenced (2-way communication) from outside the Gran Sasso laboratory, which is shielded from most known interactions? Surely not by electromagnetic waves of no kind and not by ultrasounds, which have been excluded in the debate. Then, other considerations on sensibility of consumer electronics strengthen the idea electromagnetism is not involved at all. Your wikis are all about known technologies, mostly electromagnetic weapons, but it's clear the Remote system is based on a different information carrier. This is the main objection.
Then, if I state some specific and unknown assertion I have to corroborate it by something to show to the reader, but when I speak about generally known physical principles, the burden of the check can easily be demanded to the reader himself. So, ELF are not apt for carrying voices, pseudo-ELF (as you call them) and microwaves are not such penetrating, ultrasound are not apt at since they bounce all and infrasounds cannot be directed. Reading brainwaves remotely is even more awkward, no known technology (SQUID-based) can do this from more than few meters.
So I repeat a concept: every target individual can make all the measurements he wants, but my personal experience show that new physics is involved and new detectors should probably be developed. The nature of dark matter is a main research problem of modern science and for sure I cannot solve it by myself.
1 microwavedindividual 2017-09-14
Your post is on RNM, not hearing voices. You have not described two way synthetic telepathy. You have not measured EMF and sound. You skipped evidence gathering.
False.
False. This sub is not /r/physics. Your demand for 490,725 subscribers of /r/conspiracy to duplicate each other's work by individually researching and learning physics is unreasonable. You and only you have the burden of proof.
False.
You do not have the personal experience of measuring EMF and ultrasound. Thus, your personal experience shows nothing.
You disinformed about RNM, microwave auditory effect and shielding. You disinformed directed energy weapons cannot be measured nor shielded. You are unduly influencing TIs to be helpless sitting ducks.
1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
Curious, all this hostility when I am here to openly discuss my theory. It is so because I broke some presumed monopoly of knowledge? If it was so I cannot apologize, but it could be worst. As I asked before, is there some hidden business behind the drama of target individuals? How many trials have been concluded with a condemn of the government, in spite of all your electromagnetic measurements?
Moreover, you have not justified how is it possible to read EM signals from outside a mountain of 1.4 Km of altitude, which is a key aspect. And, if you dig a mountain and build an EM shielded laboratory in the middle of it, you can reasonably be sure to be protected in all the directions, also from a geometric point of view.
But I will no more lose my time in responding to objections I have already replied in detail, the readers can judge by themselves and check my assertions and your assertions independently from suggested sources. I don't fear downvoting or other rating mechanisms. Your attacks will fall in the void, unless some new argument is presented.
1 microwavedindividual 2017-09-14
Debating is not an act of hostility. I am not hostile. You have more than one theory. I refuted your theories.
You broke laws of physics regarding EMF and ultrasound.
You have not provided evidence that EMF signals inside lab were remotely read. Your sole "evidence" is hearing voices. Hearing voices is not RNM and may not be via EMF.
You continue to refuse to use EMF meters and sound meters. Very strange refusal coming from a self proclaimed scientist. Scientists are trained to take measurements and to rule out the obvious with data.
I refuted this twice already. Reiterating your beliefs do not make them real.
1 curiosity36 2017-09-14
/r/psychotronics
1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
Thanks.
1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
If you find problems in downloading this file, you can read it also at:
https://controllomentaleblog.wordpress.com/
1 rockmandew 2017-09-14
To make it easier for everyone, could you please respond with a list of your research relevant or irrelevant to this subject.
Also, could you please provide further readings on what you're discussing? Help us be able to read into this more. We need viable sources. Help us help you!
1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
Research irrelevant to this subject but peer reviewed:
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/1181500/?reload=true
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Paolo_Nesi2/publication/221389623_TILCO_Temporal_Logic_for_Real-Time_Systems_Implementation_in_C/links/02e7e51b37360441fa000000.pdf
http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=568883
About RNM you can find few or nothing, but I suggest the Akwei file which is approximate but true:
http://www.whale.to/b/akwei.pdf
Inside the package "Caso Giotti 2.5.zip", directory "altre testimonianze" you can also find a lot of supporting material in English:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g327jbdz5wgmkib/Caso%20Giotti%202.5.zip?dl=0
1 rockmandew 2017-09-14
Thank you Andrea
1 gunTOWED 2017-09-14
Not an expert, but from my understanding. Masers or some kind of infrasound is used to entrain the brain and establish a communication channel. The entrainment signal is a known noise used as a backdrop, once the brain is attenuated.
Some biorelevant feedback may be readable just based on how the Maser changes depending on what it hits.
Ion cyclotron resonance or some kind of ion channels are used to flag and continually monitor the subject.
The reading of bio-relevant feedback is what is almost unbelievable to me. The synthetic phenomenalism is also very surprising. How hallucinations are done, when the visual cortex is enactivist must require some serious computation or maths. Scents too are also surprising. It seems as though some sensory somatic voxels have a common representation or that their experience as sensation does not require all of that individual's attention, relation content, or conceptual self.
Voices are easy. The Frey auditory effect can be done with a simple circuit.
Brain-to-Brain linking is a bit more trickery, but totally in the realm of possibility. See "the world science festival" on youtube.
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1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
1) The qEEG is not an image but it is in the form of raw data so it can be Fourier transformed for a frequency domain analysis. It shows brain response to external, superimposed signals. Please note that neither microwaves nor ultrasound can do this in any way. 2) Microwaves have to be targeted to a precise region of the head for V2K, but you cannot do so if target is hidden from view or shielded. 3) Ultrasounds don't penetrate walls and this closes the discussion about that and sonar. 4) Radars don't penetrate mountains, I made an experiment about hearing voices in the laboratory of Gran Sasso, which is a nuclear facility under a mountain and is fully shielded from electromagnetic waves. They did not share their measurements with me for state reasons. 5) My field is relevant because I know general engineering and not only computer one, so I had to study a lot of physics for gaining my degrees. Moreover, I have made peer reviewed research work and this proves the ability to do a scientific analysis. 6) Electromagnetic measurements don't reveal the information carrier, probably a WISP of dark matter, and are mostly useless in this field. I don't mind about the different opinion of many researchers on electronic harassment. 7) Searching the Web is not enough, you should check the assertions you can find there from a scientific point of view.
1 rockmandew 2017-09-14
Thank you Andrea
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1 andreagiotti 2017-09-14
Please read my reply in the other thread.
1 nyx_on 2017-09-14
May Deja Vu have something to do with it?