I'm not arguing with you, per se, but what does this have to do with Russia? Hillary, an American, said to Cooper, also an American, that the pizzagate (albeit a global conspiracy, on Reddit it is usually focused on America) insanity was worse than watergate (an American political scandal). Because of (what I assume are) reasons; twitchy, maniacally laughing, verge of collapse-y reasons...
Nah. Seth was about to go work for Hillary. And he wasn't a hacker. Nobody have up their email passwords. So there was no leak. Those emails were hacked. And Russia did it.
Also, the one where seeking justice for an unsolved murder is somehow "political". I could care less whether it was a dem or repub or whatever, the people responsible need to be found.
The implication that he was the leaker does not come from thin air, Assange himself implied it was him. But of course, Russia Russia Russia, amirite?
You dont care about justice at all. If the dc police said they found his killer and it was a crack head named Steve, would you believe them?
No, you wouldn't. The only answer you will accept is the DNC had him killed. You will accept no other answer. Which means all this bullshit is political. You dont actually give a flying fuck about Seth Rich. Stop pretending you do.
Thanks for all the assumptions about me. I would accept it if it were found to be the truth, but i'm not going to make up my own theory, such as yourself, and just run with it. An investigation is needed.
This is a joke right? You're the one with the theory here. I'm just going off the current reality. Which is that Seth didn't hack the DNC. Let me know when that becomes more than a theory.
You guys think he had access to everyone's personal email just because he sat at a comouter at work. It's hilarious. Those passwords weren't given out. The emails were hacked.
Ok so him saying a blatantly false statement means he's a Russian agent/shill/dick holster/other word-of-the-week?
Pizzagate had almost no bearing on the election.
What does her blatantly false statement make her?
Oh! North Korea is all over the buzzword machine these days! Let's say she's Kim's dick holster!
This is fun, no wonder you people do it.
Russian meddling is still just fluff in the wind.
What cost her the election was a combination of her being unrelentingly Hillary Clinton, her being obviously unwell, and her conspiring with the DNC to steal the election from the actually popular candidate.
I don't give a fuck about Hillary or your feelings about her. But it's beyond obvious that Julian works for Russia. You guys can plug your ears and pretend they didn't help Trump get elected all you want. Everybody else knows what's going on.
I forgot all about vault 7 and the endless river of lack of actual evidence for Russian meddling in this election...
Besides, Assange is dead, and captured, and a robot as well as a Russian. He's a busy guy apparently.
Not to mention if Trump is the Russian red-eyed devil you all say he is then you should hate Hillary even more than most, as SHE HANDED HIM THE PRESIDENCY. He is where he is because she sincerely believed she had the right to purchase the throne. Had she bowed out, or just not run ever, then Trump would be back to losing his own money on hotels, schools, steaks and whatever else, and Bernie would be on the throne.
Been waiting what, like 10 months now for someone to prove collusion? Yawn. Wake me up when there's some actual evidence as far as I'm concerned...https://youtu.be/krXnJqCKXa4
How is it beyond obvious. Please enlighten me but I have yet to see one shred of evidence. I have seen many incriminating emails though. Where are the Russia collusion emails? Despite unmasking trump where are they? Please share them I would love to see it.
The only people that don't understand that Russia has fucked with our elections and other ones in Europe are trump supporters and burned out bitter Bernie supporters. Literally everyone else in the world can see what's going on.
Are you equally as attuned to the amount of meddling the US has done in the rest of the world? Is it any surprise then that there would be other countries doing the same thing? They have been doing this for years. Meddling isn't new, but acting like Russia somehow came in and made millions of Americans vote for Trump is a bit of a stretch and giving them way to much credit.
Did you take as much issue with Russia when Obama was caught on a hot mic promising he would have more flexibility after he was reelected?
Yeah the US has definitely meddled. But what kind of government do you believe in? The goal when the US meddles in elections is spreading democracy and global stability. The goal when Russia meddles is to undermine democracy all over the world. So what do you want the world to look more like? Russia, Iran, and North Korea? Or would you rather more countries look like Western Europe and the US and Canada? Russia wants one thing. We want the other. I side with the other.
You actually believe the US want democracy all over the world! Hahahahahahahahaha! That's so sweet. The US has installed more dictatorial regimes than they have democracies.
Russia just wants to undermine us. We've been fighting them since the Cold War and they have been funding the opposition is every war the US has gotten involved in since WWII.
The whole while that Russia has been our fiendish enemy, we've allowed our own Deep State to grow unchecked.
Well there are places where democracy isn't an option. When that's the case, we go for stability. That's why we backed people like Sadaam Husein for a while. It was the stable choice. You can laugh all you want but it's clear you don't really know what you're talking about. I guess you'd rather side with Russia and have brutal dictators all over the world.
So we meddle to install democracy until we don't for "stability" reasons. I'm not siding with Russia. I just think it's naive to believe the US has been so noble. It's also very ethnocentric to believe the US knows best.
You obviously don't get it. When there are two options in an area, we pull for the most stable option. If democracy is possible, we pull for that. Like in Egypt. We really hoped that would work out but it still unraveled. Maybe I'm being ethnocentric but yeah voting for your leaders and peacefully handing off power to the other side seems a lot cooler than brutal dictators. Maybe that's my ethnocentric opinion. Or maybe that's kind of just fucking common sense.
Lmao... the Arab Spring worked exactly like it was supposed to, fool. The goal of the Deep State has been to destabalize the middle east through the use of force and color revolutions, bringing the chaos you see today.
Never mind that the US has also overthrown democratically elected leaders in favor of a military juntas.
Sure voting for leaders is great. But do you honestly believe our elected officials (not special interests) run this country? Do you really think the Deep State ever really hands off power?
Obviously you're the one not getting it here, but keep living your illusion that the US government is so noble.
This is what they call moving the goalposts, right? So now you're alleging they changed the votes of millions of people that voted for Bernie? This is the first I heard this.
The massive misinformation campaign that included Pizzagate had a huge bearing on the election. It's starting to become public now, but when the investigations are complete you're going to see that Pizzagate was only a small part of the conspiracy based political messaging that flooded social media and the Internet in general during the election.
You may be correct, but the media hitmen were out in force for/against both sides. The whole thing, the entire election cycle, was a diversion, a circus to keep people busy and looking the wrong way. I mean, Hillary and Trump? Really? You couldn't ask for a more riveting shitshow...
They have a binder. Notice the positive upvotes on a comment that is anti Assange? Do not waste your time. They are a traitor to humanity an karma is a motherfucker.
There is no proof or evidence that Julian Assange or Wikileaks is not Russian propaganda, and until someone here can point out evidence that he is not that's what I have to go with based on everything that I've read and studied so far...
As another user asked the other guy, what sources do you have that can make you claim with credibility that Assange is russisan propaganda? Because everything I have seen says otherwise, and Ive seen a lot.
funny how Hillary (in linked CNN interview) summarises pgate by mentioning an email with the word pizza in it... how about the 'hot tub' email... the threats against the guy who discovered Alefantis' other property... the Jeffrey Dahmer statue in Podesta's house... the list goes on but it's not up to me to report on that stuff, I'm not the f***ing journalist.
Revealing the truth is misinformation to shillies, it's very transparent. The Russia nonsense is a litmus test for anyone in this sub, at this point. It was not here pre-election. True CTers know it's just a ruse to make up for the fact that every DeepState swamp thing had their eggs in the HRC basket and she fucking lost.
This post is nothing more than paragraphs full of misinformation.
Pizzagate was a manufactured political attack tool, that is part of a much larger political strategy.
And when the Mueller investigation is finished, and they force Facebook to release the full extent of the fake news that originated on its platform, the guys like you will be forced to admit that you were duped.
You obviously don't get it. When there are two options in an area, we pull for the most stable option. If democracy is possible, we pull for that. Like in Egypt. We really hoped that would work out but it still unraveled. Maybe I'm being ethnocentric but yeah voting for your leaders and peacefully handing off power to the other side seems a lot cooler than brutal dictators. Maybe that's my ethnocentric opinion. Or maybe that's kind of just fucking common sense.
This is a joke right? You're the one with the theory here. I'm just going off the current reality. Which is that Seth didn't hack the DNC. Let me know when that becomes more than a theory.
87 comments
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
Oh look, Julian jumping to Russia's defense again with some more distractions with fake news. Color me fucking surprised.
1 Korlis 2017-09-15
I'm not arguing with you, per se, but what does this have to do with Russia? Hillary, an American, said to Cooper, also an American, that the pizzagate (albeit a global conspiracy, on Reddit it is usually focused on America) insanity was worse than watergate (an American political scandal). Because of (what I assume are) reasons; twitchy, maniacally laughing, verge of collapse-y reasons...
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
Look at his tweet. His response to her about pizza gate is because she said Russian meddling was bigger than water gate.
1 CULTURAL_MARXISM_SUX 2017-09-15
Seth Rich and Eric Braverman leaked those files. There was no hack.
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
Nah. Seth was about to go work for Hillary. And he wasn't a hacker. Nobody have up their email passwords. So there was no leak. Those emails were hacked. And Russia did it.
1 Jmuffinz 2017-09-15
How do you know?
1 JakeElwoodDim5th 2017-09-15
What reality do you live in?
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
The one where I don't make up stories about dead people.
1 Gzuzzwept 2017-09-15
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
What?
1 JakeElwoodDim5th 2017-09-15
Also, the one where seeking justice for an unsolved murder is somehow "political". I could care less whether it was a dem or repub or whatever, the people responsible need to be found.
The implication that he was the leaker does not come from thin air, Assange himself implied it was him. But of course, Russia Russia Russia, amirite?
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
You dont care about justice at all. If the dc police said they found his killer and it was a crack head named Steve, would you believe them?
No, you wouldn't. The only answer you will accept is the DNC had him killed. You will accept no other answer. Which means all this bullshit is political. You dont actually give a flying fuck about Seth Rich. Stop pretending you do.
1 JakeElwoodDim5th 2017-09-15
Thanks for all the assumptions about me. I would accept it if it were found to be the truth, but i'm not going to make up my own theory, such as yourself, and just run with it. An investigation is needed.
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
This is a joke right? You're the one with the theory here. I'm just going off the current reality. Which is that Seth didn't hack the DNC. Let me know when that becomes more than a theory.
1 JakeElwoodDim5th 2017-09-15
You're absolutely right. He didnt hack. He leaked, possibly.
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
You guys think he had access to everyone's personal email just because he sat at a comouter at work. It's hilarious. Those passwords weren't given out. The emails were hacked.
1 Korlis 2017-09-15
Ok.
Ok so him saying a blatantly false statement means he's a Russian agent/shill/dick holster/other word-of-the-week?
Pizzagate had almost no bearing on the election.
What does her blatantly false statement make her? Oh! North Korea is all over the buzzword machine these days! Let's say she's Kim's dick holster!
This is fun, no wonder you people do it.
Russian meddling is still just fluff in the wind. What cost her the election was a combination of her being unrelentingly Hillary Clinton, her being obviously unwell, and her conspiring with the DNC to steal the election from the actually popular candidate.
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
I don't give a fuck about Hillary or your feelings about her. But it's beyond obvious that Julian works for Russia. You guys can plug your ears and pretend they didn't help Trump get elected all you want. Everybody else knows what's going on.
1 Korlis 2017-09-15
Ok man.
You win.
I forgot all about vault 7 and the endless river of lack of actual evidence for Russian meddling in this election...
Besides, Assange is dead, and captured, and a robot as well as a Russian. He's a busy guy apparently.
Not to mention if Trump is the Russian red-eyed devil you all say he is then you should hate Hillary even more than most, as SHE HANDED HIM THE PRESIDENCY. He is where he is because she sincerely believed she had the right to purchase the throne. Had she bowed out, or just not run ever, then Trump would be back to losing his own money on hotels, schools, steaks and whatever else, and Bernie would be on the throne.
1 Citizen90222 2017-09-15
Lack of evidence lol.
Yeah, because Mueller is making the findings of his ongoing investigation public lol.
1 SmellyCat1776 2017-09-15
Been waiting what, like 10 months now for someone to prove collusion? Yawn. Wake me up when there's some actual evidence as far as I'm concerned...https://youtu.be/krXnJqCKXa4
1 Alasbabylon103 2017-09-15
Susan rice unmasked why wouldn't mueller leak evidence. ?
1 Korlis 2017-09-15
Well when he coughs up the evidence and all the arrests are made I will change my tune.
Same as when the pedophile thing finally shows any kind of concrete evidence and all the supposed elite perpetrators are caught and jailed.
These are all just massive, disgusting, divisionary tactics.
1 Citizen90222 2017-09-15
There's no reasonable comparison between the Russia investigation and Pizzagate.
There is zero evidence in Pizzagate, and enough evidence in regards to the Russia investigation that a special prosecutor was appointed.
1 Korlis 2017-09-15
Both are media circuses meant to distract the masses.
But you stay on your partisan bandwagon, no harm ever comes from that...
1 Alasbabylon103 2017-09-15
How is it beyond obvious. Please enlighten me but I have yet to see one shred of evidence. I have seen many incriminating emails though. Where are the Russia collusion emails? Despite unmasking trump where are they? Please share them I would love to see it.
1 VisionaryPrism 2017-09-15
"IT'S THE RUSSIAN'S, YOURE ALL BLIND" "Do you have any proof" "IF YOU DONT THINK IT'S THE RUSSIAN'S YOURE BLIND"
The I.Q is low with this one.
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
The only people that don't understand that Russia has fucked with our elections and other ones in Europe are trump supporters and burned out bitter Bernie supporters. Literally everyone else in the world can see what's going on.
1 Hazmat_Princess 2017-09-15
Are you equally as attuned to the amount of meddling the US has done in the rest of the world? Is it any surprise then that there would be other countries doing the same thing? They have been doing this for years. Meddling isn't new, but acting like Russia somehow came in and made millions of Americans vote for Trump is a bit of a stretch and giving them way to much credit.
Did you take as much issue with Russia when Obama was caught on a hot mic promising he would have more flexibility after he was reelected?
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
Yeah the US has definitely meddled. But what kind of government do you believe in? The goal when the US meddles in elections is spreading democracy and global stability. The goal when Russia meddles is to undermine democracy all over the world. So what do you want the world to look more like? Russia, Iran, and North Korea? Or would you rather more countries look like Western Europe and the US and Canada? Russia wants one thing. We want the other. I side with the other.
1 Hazmat_Princess 2017-09-15
You actually believe the US want democracy all over the world! Hahahahahahahahaha! That's so sweet. The US has installed more dictatorial regimes than they have democracies.
Russia just wants to undermine us. We've been fighting them since the Cold War and they have been funding the opposition is every war the US has gotten involved in since WWII.
The whole while that Russia has been our fiendish enemy, we've allowed our own Deep State to grow unchecked.
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
Well there are places where democracy isn't an option. When that's the case, we go for stability. That's why we backed people like Sadaam Husein for a while. It was the stable choice. You can laugh all you want but it's clear you don't really know what you're talking about. I guess you'd rather side with Russia and have brutal dictators all over the world.
1 Hazmat_Princess 2017-09-15
So we meddle to install democracy until we don't for "stability" reasons. I'm not siding with Russia. I just think it's naive to believe the US has been so noble. It's also very ethnocentric to believe the US knows best.
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
You obviously don't get it. When there are two options in an area, we pull for the most stable option. If democracy is possible, we pull for that. Like in Egypt. We really hoped that would work out but it still unraveled. Maybe I'm being ethnocentric but yeah voting for your leaders and peacefully handing off power to the other side seems a lot cooler than brutal dictators. Maybe that's my ethnocentric opinion. Or maybe that's kind of just fucking common sense.
1 JakeElwoodDim5th 2017-09-15
Lmao... the Arab Spring worked exactly like it was supposed to, fool. The goal of the Deep State has been to destabalize the middle east through the use of force and color revolutions, bringing the chaos you see today.
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
Why the fuck would the "deep state want havoc and chaos in the middle east?
1 JakeElwoodDim5th 2017-09-15
You must be new around here. Ah, how nice it must to be naive.
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
So I guess you're not gonna answer the question then. Thought so.
1 Hazmat_Princess 2017-09-15
Never mind that the US has also overthrown democratically elected leaders in favor of a military juntas.
Sure voting for leaders is great. But do you honestly believe our elected officials (not special interests) run this country? Do you really think the Deep State ever really hands off power?
Obviously you're the one not getting it here, but keep living your illusion that the US government is so noble.
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
Ahhh the deep state right. You guys keep whining about this "deep state" everyone precious Donald gets in a bind. Love it.
1 Hazmat_Princess 2017-09-15
Are you really claiming there is no deep state? Ok, instead of Deep State how about we call them the Intelligence Community or the CIA?
US government noble endeavors: Iran 1953 South Vietnam 1963 Brazil 1964 Chile 1973 Nicaragua 1970-1979
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
Trump chose the new director of the CIA himself so I guess he chose the new leader of the deep state then.
1 Hazmat_Princess 2017-09-15
You really don't get how corrupt power structures work, do you? You do realize you're on a conspiracy sub, right?
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
He's the boss of the CIA. Who else at the CIA has more power?
1 Hazmat_Princess 2017-09-15
I think his name is Lynch
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
Who's lynch?
1 Hazmat_Princess 2017-09-15
That was a tongue in cheek reference to all the CIA agents from the A-Team movie. Running there own ops for money, but I guess the reference was lost.
Here's some light reading for you. Further edification
1 likes-to-use-italics 2017-09-15
This is what they call moving the goalposts, right? So now you're alleging they changed the votes of millions of people that voted for Bernie? This is the first I heard this.
1 Korlis 2017-09-15
Then you haven't been paying attention.
Storehouses of uncounted votes.
DWS and crew toadying for Hildawg.
Prolly more I don't care to put in the effort to find/mention.
1 Citizen90222 2017-09-15
The massive misinformation campaign that included Pizzagate had a huge bearing on the election. It's starting to become public now, but when the investigations are complete you're going to see that Pizzagate was only a small part of the conspiracy based political messaging that flooded social media and the Internet in general during the election.
1 Korlis 2017-09-15
You may be correct, but the media hitmen were out in force for/against both sides. The whole thing, the entire election cycle, was a diversion, a circus to keep people busy and looking the wrong way. I mean, Hillary and Trump? Really? You couldn't ask for a more riveting shitshow...
1 3PcDrtyRice 2017-09-15
They have a binder. Notice the positive upvotes on a comment that is anti Assange? Do not waste your time. They are a traitor to humanity an karma is a motherfucker.
1 ShrekOnADeck 2017-09-15
Are people not allowed to criticize Assange?
1 huktheavenged 2017-09-15
maybe they'll come back as hissing cockroaches?
1 hoipalloi52 2017-09-15
There is no proof or evidence that Julian Assange or Wikileaks is not Russian propaganda, and until someone here can point out evidence that he is not that's what I have to go with based on everything that I've read and studied so far...
1 Youwontsmokemypineal 2017-09-15
Can you link some of your sources?
1 Step2TheJep 2017-09-15
Don't worry about the downvotes. It comes with the territory. Good post.
1 vidarheheh 2017-09-15
As another user asked the other guy, what sources do you have that can make you claim with credibility that Assange is russisan propaganda? Because everything I have seen says otherwise, and Ive seen a lot.
1 Step2TheJep 2017-09-15
Ever wonder why Assange never speaks about any 'truths' worth knowing? Like 9/11 no planes?
1 GetOutOfBox 2017-09-15
Enjoy jerking each other off in the bottom of the thread
1 ichoosejif 2017-09-15
You mean since last fall.
1 01314150 2017-09-15
pizzeption
1 JakeElwoodDim5th 2017-09-15
So, you want someone to prove a negative to you? It just doesnt work that way, you understand, right?
1 Entropick 2017-09-15
Damage control is well underway.
1 Johnny_Oldschool 2017-09-15
This seems kind of odd. Not sure what to make of it.
1 SteveeMeetsWorld 2017-09-15
I'm from Europe, and I'm sorry but.. what is pizzagate exactly?
1 huktheavenged 2017-09-15
so much money (billions of dollars!) where throw at the election last year that it triggered the Panama Papers
and john podesta had to change his password.
this opened him up to a phishing attack that gave us his emails
where a place called "comet pizza" was mentioned along with an obscure "pizza" code.
4chan cracked this and opened up an international child trafficking network behind which lurks a kind of post-modern version of blood-libel.
and this of course means civil war.........
1 tendies4bernie 2017-09-15
The wiki on blood-libel, holy fuck!
1 huktheavenged 2017-09-15
the hungry gods of Canaan have returned and Baalim are here
1 SteveeMeetsWorld 2017-09-15
Holy pizzaballz
1 huktheavenged 2017-09-15
i emigrated
just think about it
1 01314150 2017-09-15
funny how Hillary (in linked CNN interview) summarises pgate by mentioning an email with the word pizza in it... how about the 'hot tub' email... the threats against the guy who discovered Alefantis' other property... the Jeffrey Dahmer statue in Podesta's house... the list goes on but it's not up to me to report on that stuff, I'm not the f***ing journalist.
1 JakeElwoodDim5th 2017-09-15
Revealing the truth is misinformation to shillies, it's very transparent. The Russia nonsense is a litmus test for anyone in this sub, at this point. It was not here pre-election. True CTers know it's just a ruse to make up for the fact that every DeepState swamp thing had their eggs in the HRC basket and she fucking lost.
1 Citizen90222 2017-09-15
This post is nothing more than paragraphs full of misinformation.
Pizzagate was a manufactured political attack tool, that is part of a much larger political strategy.
And when the Mueller investigation is finished, and they force Facebook to release the full extent of the fake news that originated on its platform, the guys like you will be forced to admit that you were duped.
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
What?
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
You obviously don't get it. When there are two options in an area, we pull for the most stable option. If democracy is possible, we pull for that. Like in Egypt. We really hoped that would work out but it still unraveled. Maybe I'm being ethnocentric but yeah voting for your leaders and peacefully handing off power to the other side seems a lot cooler than brutal dictators. Maybe that's my ethnocentric opinion. Or maybe that's kind of just fucking common sense.
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
Ahhh the deep state right. You guys keep whining about this "deep state" everyone precious Donald gets in a bind. Love it.
1 HereWeGoAgainDude 2017-09-15
This is a joke right? You're the one with the theory here. I'm just going off the current reality. Which is that Seth didn't hack the DNC. Let me know when that becomes more than a theory.
1 Hazmat_Princess 2017-09-15
You really don't get how corrupt power structures work, do you? You do realize you're on a conspiracy sub, right?