Cigarette conspiracy?

6  2017-09-15 by c0olking

I have been thinking about this for a long time. What I cant figure out is if the government wants us to smoke or not? In Denmark where I am, they put nasty pictures on the actual box. Government also takes a big cut in extra tax for cigarettes. Saying thats to pay for medical care causedby smoking. Big cigarette production must be alot of dollar..

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Lights smoke. They are all working together, because the governments are Corporations.

Isn't that far too simplistic?

No, what... do you want me to write a book on how it is, in order for you to accept it? Sometimes the simplest explanation, is the best explanation ;)

Write it and I'll read it.

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I'll get right on that, in the mean time, have a look: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_Organic_Act_of_1871

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They want you to smoke but they want you to think that they don't want you to smoke.

More smoking = less old age pensions + massive tax income.

The cost of healthcare on the taxpayer doesn't even compare, if it did they'd ban cigarettes tomorrow.

Thats makes sense why they are so obvious with their nasty labels

I'm still at the stage of holding the vape in one hand and a cigarette in the other. I'll get there.

Big cigarette production must be alot of dollar..

It costs them 5-6 cents per pack I believe.

And of course the government, which controls the tobacco industry, wants us to smoke. I'm not sure about Denmark, but here there is little to no evidence of the government being concerned about our good health, in any regard.

and where are you from?

I don't think they want us to smoke. Deaths by smoking is common enough that I wager a large portion of the politicians who make laws have personally lost someone to it.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Cigarette taxes being a useful and politically palatable source of revenue doesn't necessarily translate to governments wanting us to smoke, no.

That does not make alot of sense. Politicians only care about their career. They dont have any skill, other then some social ones. They cant solve problems. They dont know how. Its widely known inhere that our governments are owned by the big corporations. Common knowledge inhere. All I was wondering about, was the freaky labels on the box.

Politicians only care about their career.

No they don't, this is an over-generalization.

Name one politician that gives a fuck that accomplished anything in the past few decades. Al Franken is about as good as it gets.

You had zero arguments in your post.

If they cared they would ban fluoride in our water and toothpaste; GM foods, McDonalds and KFC; not to mention chentrails.. but they don't care full stop

Cigarette smoking lowers the risk of Parkinson and Alzheimer ....

Then, by George, I should never be diagnosed with either of those!

The government doesn't care if you smoke or not. The government does care about TAX REVENUE from cigarette sales. As long as they collect that fat tax revenue, cigarettes will be legal.

If everyone quit most countries would go bankrupt. Here in the UK the National Health Service would crash within a month or two. Smokers pay more tax than anybody here. Its a double con. Am going for a smoke..

Most governments have done a lot to make sure people don't smoke. In countries with any type of socialized medicine, it makes sense. The variety of health problems caused or exacerbated by smoking/tobacco outweighed the (normal amount) of tax the government received from tobacco companies, until the extra taxes were added.

The international (and internal) pressure to tax cigarettes and make other pretty massive concessions to public health lobbyists (like using the images you talk about in some places, putting in age limits for buying tobacco products, etc) was pretty big a few decades ago. Governments didn't become anti-smoking out of the goodness of their hearts. If they had, they'd be doing similar things for sugar now.

Tobacco and cigarettes are not necessarily the same things. I have no problems with the former. It's something that has been enjoyed for thousands of years. Native Americans who were in tune with nature smoked it in ceremonies.

Cigarettes on the other hand,

https://www.cinj.org/sites/cinj/files/inline/images/hidden_danger.jpeg

I think they don't want you to smoke. But the reason is punishment of the old money that owned the tobacco production. They certainly do t give two shits about the general population's health.

I think it's interesting to consider whether the incessant "smoking kills" messaging isn't perhaps a kind of 'nocebo' making the health outcomes worse.

The nocebo effect is when a negative expectation of a phenomenon causes it to have a more negative effect than it otherwise would. A nocebo effect causes the perception that the phenomenon will have a negative outcome to actively influence the result.[

Yep its called appealing to counter cultureness prevalent in youth.