That's a meaty compile OP. Nice.

Yeah it's gonna be a good midnight read for sure.

If there's no mention of the controlled demolitions of 9-11-01 (Newton's laws of motion prove CD), rest assured it's a gatekeeper's list, much like the incomplete list on the sidebar.

That is proven to any individual (honest) mind, but it is not common knowledge - i.e. most people know, but most people don't know that others know. It becomes common knowledge when mainstream/subsidized media/institutions acknowledge it.

If it is proven to the scientist why wouldn't the gatekeepers sing it's praises, but choose to silence science? The answer, they're gatekeepers!

Tough pickle

Feel free to provide some mainstream sources backing up the claims of controlled demolition on 9/11, even of WTC7

What OP is doing is providing examples of massive conspiratorial wrongdoing, corroborated by accepted, publicly trusted sources of information. You know, the shit that normies need to see the light

Balk at their collection all you want, but sharing it is a hell of a lot more productive than what you're doing

I'm all for sharing the truth behind 9/11 but I think what Op has done here is compiled a list of universally accepted theories using mainstream outlets.

I assume you mean debris shooting out sideways. I found that convincing as well. Then I found out that pressure from above can easily cause it to shoot out sideways.

No.

That's what she said

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I feel like a mother with children who has the entire US government with guns drawn on me and the rest of us and all I have to do is keep my mouth shut and do nothing to keep us from being killed or worse. I'm tired of feeling this way. Guess I'll just go back to work now . Come on people. Why post these things if nothing will come from knowing.

You started your comment with a declaration of feelings. Feelings are important to your mood and general disposition but ultimately meaningless to the outside world.

nothing will come from knowing.

Nothing will come from you, perhaps, but it is a big world where the truth is pure gold to some.

When you say gold do you mean money? I'm sorry but my faith in humanity has deteorated as of the past 20 years. Iwould hope that someone some where can come up with something to stop the bribes and lies . That would be a good start.Things need to change .i would love to be a part of that change .

Be the change, that is the only true change that will ever, ever happen. Don't wait for a messiah to follow or a bandwagon to jump unto, you will be misled and disappointed. If that is what comes from knowing, no posting was in vain.

Thank you. Your words calm the anger and give a glimmer of hope. We can't wait for others to lead. You are correct . The change begins with each of us. You have made an old woman smile today.

Maybe some Doctor can prescribe some drugs that will help with that 'mood'

Now why I'm the world would i ever trust a doctor. They can keep the drugs .life is just fine as long as I dont listen to all the trash being spewed by those with no soul.

I was being facetious...

Lol.ok sorry . Time for this old lady to step back . It really is difficult to understand someones meaning without hearing their demeanour. Again. I appologise

If there's no mention of the controlled demolitions of 9-11-01 (Newton's laws of motion prove CD), rest assured it's a gatekeeper's list, much like the incomplete list on the sidebar.

Thank you for all of your hard work!

Great work OP, this is where you should start when talking with deniers. I have a feeling 9/11 will be on there within the next few years.

I'm not confident about 9/11. For sure it was exploited by Bush and Osama had been funded by the CIA 30 years before, but the suggestion that the hijackers were not who they say is unlikely IMO. And of course the theory that 9/11 didn't even happen is batshit

I don't no much about 9/11 tbh, but if there is no conspiracy why did the third building fall down?

Well weren't being good enough consumers. WTC7 collapsed in shame.

Why were all 7 WTC buildings either destroyed or completely totaled on 9/11? Why was St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church destroyed? Why were the Deutsche Bank Building and Fiterman Hall so damaged that they had to be demolished?

Fiterman hall was demolished due to mold, not because it was structurally unsafe.

Deutsche Bank Building was demolished because it was contaminated with dust and renovation would have been more expensive than rebuilding it.

That's what their respective Wikipedia articles said at least last time I checked.

St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church compares with WTC7 how exactly?

9/11 being a government conspiracy doesn't have to depend on speculative aspects like controlled demolition or ridiculous theories like no-planes. al-Qaeda being a CIA asset has already been confirmed by Sibel Edmonds, who blew the whistle on Operation Gladio B. There was even a wire transfer of $100,000 to lead hijacker Mohammed Atta ordered by the Pakistani ISI, which was the CIA's intermediary for funding the Afghan mujahideen during the Cold War. Daniel Hopsicker did great work investigating the flight school in Venice FL where Mohammed Atta trained, finding that owner Rudi Dekkers and financier Wally Hilliard had intelligence connections. Mike Ruppert made a good case for the war games on 9/11 being intentionally planned and run by Dick Cheney to thwart the air defense.

Now THAT is something I haven't heard before. You got a link for the $100k and stuff by chance?

• The ISI wire transfer was first published by Times of India, and confirmed by CNN, Agence France-Presse, and Daily Excelsior

• Daniel Hopsicker has a documentary about the flight schools, based on his book Welcome to Terrorland. There's some controversy over whether he accurately identified Atta's girlfriend, but that doesn't threaten his other conclusions; Hopsicker went out into the field and talked to people who were involved with the flight schools. His website, Mad Cow, has more stories on this, including how the flight school's planes were used to smuggle drugs.

• Mike Ruppert, in his book Crossing the Rubicon, documented 5 separate war games running on September 11. Some of them drew fighters away from the Northeast US, and others created confusion as to whether the hijackings were real or not. There was also some faulty radar data about flight 11, which Ruppert believes was inserted through a backdoor into the FAA systems. FAA computer systems were subcontracted out to Ptech, a firm funded by Yasin al-Qadi, a terror financier who claims to have met Dick Cheney in Saudi Arabia.

Aaah yeah I remember reading about the ISI actually. I really need to review Corbett's stuff 9/11 because he really goes in depth into Ptech, I remember the connections you lay out and many others.

Many thanks for the info. :)

Building 7 is all anyone really needs. "Uh yea, that building across the way from where the planes hit? Well, a rock from the falling towers hit it on there way down, and wouldn't ya know, the darn thing just collapsed in demolition style straight into its own foundation. Haha, it's the damndest thing..."

I'm also not a big fan of Trump, I think he's really funny in that Al Bundy/Jerry Springer way and not much else, but I think he knows what happened on 9/11. He hinted A LOT before the election that he knew exactly what went down. Even though he's a shnook, his expertise in at least large-scale construction and demolition was well known in the city at that time, and I think he was at least consulted about demolishing the towers. Even hypothetically. He was also right there on the day after int happened going "no way this was planes, this is exactly what controlled demolition looks like. I'm in construction."

His penchant for grand hyperbole and straight up lying kind of ruins him as a reputable, believable source.

You're not wrong but your analysis is incomplete. Take for example Fox News. When there is an event that aligns with Fox News' ideology you will find they are a crack team of investigative journalists. Yes, they're full of shit often enough, but when the truth lines up with their agenda they're spot-on. Sometimes, the fact that the source is habitually unreliable makes the specific example of truth that much more significant.

I think those types of exceptions are rare and, being the exception to the rule rather than a rule itself, you should always thoroughly attempt to rule them out first before assuming they are correct and if, after significant research, that source is proved to be uncharacteristically correct then sure, I'd believe them for that specific instance only.

As I mentioned in my other comment to /u/Gem420, I don't expect many people to agree with me here. It's just the standard to which I hold my informational sources. I get that it's a little high, and I don't belittle others for not having the same standards I do.

Dude, you don't have to like him, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. He spent his life doing these things, he knows what he saw.

I don't disagree that sometimes untrustworthy sources end up being right, but statistically that is a very rare occurrence.

I think there has been a movement away from what we, as a people, consider a "valid source", which bothers me. There's a lot of "well yeah but [person/source of debate] was right about THIS so that means they're worth our time", which I don't think is the best way to go about this. There is a certain threshold a person or source reaches, almost like a cliff, where they are wrong or lie often enough in comparison to the number of times they are correct or tell the truth that regardless of whether they're telling the truth or not, their previous behavior has rendered them an untrustworthy and thus invalid source for information.

I get that not many people agree with that, let alone on this subreddit specifically, but that's how I choose to operate. Donald Trump passed that threshold for me a long time ago, even before his most recent presidential run and win.

I, too, try to use past behavior to judge how someone will behave in the future. I'm usually right if I do have enough info, but I am wrong from time to time. (What can I say? People surprise you, it's what makes us awesome)

I like Trump, on a lot of levels. There are things I disagree with or am concerned about. But, as a whole, I like the guy. And that's me. I have my reasons :) your reasons are your own, and from where you sit, it's accurate too. (Honestly, as long as ANY president doesn't blow up the earth or totally fubar America, it's gonna be okay, it's only 4-8years, and not truly that long.)

Real estate developers don't actually know much about demolition or construction, other than how much it costs. That's other peoples job (source: I work in commercial real estate)

Obviously building 7's collapse is a lot more complicated that and that's another discussion. But Trump's initial response to 9/11 was to talk about the size of his buildings. He wants to hint at this stuff for attention.

Wtf is that last sentence? Who... Nvm.

What a fantastic compendium. Thanks for all your hard work.

Just an aside. My ex-husband worked in the Fernald school . . . while he was in prison. They hire inmates who are eligible for daily work details to work with the kids. Fortunately, for those kids, my ex was a decent guy. I can only imagine some of the guys that end up working there.

Can you explain what exactly is so bad about this? You make it sound like they are leaving kids alone with possibly violent inmates. I doubt all inmates can qualify for this and I think it can be quite therapeutic actually. Inmates and children both tend to be very lonely, so they have that in common. I think it would be educational for kids to learn about the reality of life and how it can go wrong for anyone. Especially if learning while they are in a safe environment like school. Even if they dont talk about life lessons, they can just have a friend, someone to talk to. I also dont think all inmates are bad people. And they dont deserve the cruel punishments they get, like solitary confinement. Am I crazy here, or do you have more to add?

No, not all inmates are bad people. My ex certainly isn't. As far as learning the reality of life from the inmates, I don't know how that may be applicable since the Fernald school is for severely mentally challenged kids. Learning to brush their teeth each day is a challenge. Hiring inmates, at $2.00/day is how the school keeps its costs down. And yeah, some of the guys that worked there from the prisons weren't the kind you'd want around your kids, i.e. armed robberies, assaults, etc. The prison they pulled from was a minimum security so the inmates were at the end of their sentences at that time. I guess it's part of how they planned to reintegrate them, by giving them work experience. So, regardless of your original crime if in that prison you were considered trustworthy enough for a job. Doesn't mean they'd rehabilitated, only that they played the game well enough to make it that far. Again, not all were like that, but some certainly were.

Advocating for children to be left alone with violent criminals is absolutely insane.

No one is doing that. You completely missed the point. Kids get left alone with dangerous parents/babysitters/relatives all the time. At least in this case they would be supervised. You think the prison bus comes to an elementary school, drops off a bunch of violent criminals, and they say "okay pick you up at 3!"

Alien conspiracy theories

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Blue_Book

Another medical experiment: EPA allows testing of insecticide on orphans

Read somewhere years back that pharma companies actually allow for a certain percentage of dead people in clinical trials as a normal percentage.

I mean, this sounds outrageous but it's an example of something that is actually perfectly rational if you just consider it for a second...

wait - how is that normal?

I mean - I guess you can give me a logical explanation - but I cannot imagine it right now - maybe because it is late at night?

Simple, because it's the norm to have few deaths by a car accident or aneurysm over the period of a trial. What he wrote sounds horrifying only if you don't then ask yourself in what ways it could make sense

If I was that kind of fuckyou rich, then yes... I would, why not?

It's not about you dude it's about the average working class Joe

Sorry it's probably me but idk what you mean by that?

The PBS isn't a system or process designed just for you man, it's funded by taxpayers for pensioners and those in need for life changing medicines. Honestly no offense but I am bewildered that I've needed to elaborate like I have in this thread

Pbs, wtf man, you said if you could pay 6$ to have people hand inspect you cereal would you, and I said yes?

Yes, but you obviously don't see the comparison I am trying to make which is why I mentioned cereal at all, you just took my words at face value without seeing what I meant by them. Would it change tour perspective if had said ..."people pay $6" instead of "...you pay $6..."?

You can't catch this because you interpret and relate to things from the perspective of your ego, because our society is an egoic echo chamber that perpetuates self centered thinking and logic. How's that for a conspiracy

Take a look at my recent comment history because I touch on specifically this in detail if you want an interesting quick read

No need to be confrontational...

I still don't get what you are saying, they are talking about accepted deaths and how it impacts studies, the cereal thing could be taken far value, or the fact that people would actually have to do that job,or in the sense of the legs being the dead people in the study, or in any number of ways, perhaps you want to explain if I am too stupid to understand, instead of telling me I'm too stupid to understand.

I'm not trying to be confrontational, just an attempt to point out to you why you are not getting what I am saying lol. I figured that was more important than clearing the cereal point up.

But, well in a nutshell:

PBS (Or I guess the FDA where you are) is gvmnt funded as a service for the entire population. If you wanted test trials to be totally death free you'd be asking a ridiculous thing, that could only be done if the cost (in taxpayer dollars) of the whole operation went up for no actual benefit to anyone.

Just how if cereal for the entire population was made insect leg free for an extra $6 on top of what it already is, it would be a huge waste of everyones money because it's already fine as it is, unless you are illogically squeamish.

Basically, me writing all this out makes me question why the fuck I spend so much time on the internet typing shit out, I guess I'll say this is the last time I do that shit lol... it's time for me to find a new way to spend my fkn time..

Part of the problem is that pbs is public broadcasting service here, and ok cool, you wouldn't be explaining anything if you used less abstracted analogy and worded more carefully.

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I'll be sure to now next time, oh wise one

Nayirah al-Ṣabaḥ, daughter of an Iraq diplomat, gave false testimony before Congress in what sure as hell looked like sworn testimony. It wasn't, so she's clear on perjury charges as well as enjoying diplomatic immunity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

Hill & Knowlton worked for the Kuwaiti government to create the meta bliz that made the case for the first Gulf war. But they couldn't have pulled it off without the assistance of members of congress, the media, and the President.

Search for the paperback book, "The Rape of Kuwait", on ebay or amazon if you need another example of the PR team's effort.

The response was overwhelming. It was clearly the most popular war in my lifetime. I remember giant yellow ribbons tied around the 5th floor of 10 story office buildings.

We had no idea at the time how we were being manipulated.

And we knew that we had been lied to before so that we could enter a war. This happened with Vietnam as well. But we don't learn. I remember seeing and hearing that testimony everywhere and something just seemed off about it. But I was 14 and I lacked the experience and knowledge to go any further than that. But I remember thinking that she was full of shit. video What do you think, does she sound genuine to you? I now realize that we needed an excuse for war and her testimony was part of that excuse. Then we used WMD's as an excuse some years later which resulted in a war on "terror" which has an ever changing enemy face and no clear end.

So I look at the world today and I see NK being painted as our enemy. Right or wrong, that is not my point here. My point is that we have an opportunity here for history to repeat itself. The UN General Assembly is happening and I can't help but wonder what the plan might be to gain support for military action against NK. Will this plan include embellished propaganda or even an outright false flag? Our history would tell us that we need to be aware and question the narrative before making rash decisions. But who am I kidding? Those of us who question things in this manner are not the ones controlling the narrative and we are not the ones making meaningful decisions. Those who recognize our past and question the present will be dissenters and we will be ridiculed and ignored. Then we will one day wonder how we were so stupid .. again. I give it 12 months, max. Within 12 months, we will have an event that will be plastered on every news feed and they all will be saying the same thing. When this happens, we need to question it.

Slightly off topic, but I am also concerned about the rise of extremism on both the left and the right. We had this situation in the 60's and 70's with groups like the Weathermen who were blowing things up in America on a daily basis. These groups did not go from nothing to blowing things up overnight. There was a gradual and well documented increase in their numbers and the violence of their tactics. Then we woke up one day and wondered how it came to bombs everyday when it was playing out right in front of us the whole time. So now we have our escalating situation today. Extremist groups and numbers are up. The violence has started and we have done little to recognize this unless it fits a certain narrative. So I worry that we are repeating history again. An escalation of violence is the only logical progression from here. And here we are being selective in who we condemn and doing very little to address the issue in a meaningful way. Todays extremists are not so bomb happy, but for how long? Why can't we wake up before our reality slaps us in the face, or blows up in our face?

And then when internal violence will seem to get out of hand and will hurt commerce and other interests. Then there will be external enemy, could be Muslims, Chinese, NK, Russians, Indians, who the fuck knows where this roulette stops. Then the US will united again against the common enemy and then some poor foreign schmuck will fuckin be a result of a hate crime. As a brown man, it could be me. Who knows.

It's either Ricks killing Ricks or Morties killing Morties or Ricks killing Morties. But it's the same old story, man.

My friend. I am a white guy and the us government already ran a propaganda campaign against my ancestors which resulted in internment ... twice. Some in my family were interned. Families split up, jobs lost, businesses lost and in one case seized. One of my relatives was interned while his son was serving in the us military, fighting Nazi's. The very people my relatives wanted to escape. Hyphenated Americans. Look it up. If you are interested, I could copy a previous post I made about this. Please don't think I am trying to play the victim or that I am making light of anyone's struggles. That certainly is not my intent. Just saying, I am white and they came for my relatives.

OP, you are the bestest

Always good to be reminded that there's some solid ground beneath all the shit we have to put up with and wade our way through.

Thanks OP. Great stuff.

There's a lot more than this, maybe we can keep adding to it overtime?

https://np.reddit.com/r/VaccinesCause/comments/70hs4n/paul_offit_accidentally_speaks_the_truth_about/

Good call!

Paperclip was amazing. Read that book, and couldnt believe it.

Yeah so many things stemmed from it. From MKULTRA, to Plum bioweapons research, and more.

Can you give me further detail on MKUltra? I know it’s there already but I heard from a friend that during the experiments something had happened where something got in the water, and the folks who lived at a village nearby were drinking from that water and soon had a disease that killed plenty of people. CIA covered it up, and when someone went to testify, they died of a “heart attack” the day before.

Everything there is to know on the topic.

I'm not sure what village you are referring to, but none of that sounds unusual

Sorry for not being very elaborate, makes it harder on you. In my class about an hour ago we were exchanging conspiracy theories to one another, which is why I’m here now. Is there any theories that have changed your perception on certain things?

Paperclip is by far and away the biggest one for me because it leads to so many different things, one of which directly affects me and my family.

The second link above really turns everything on its head once you've read it in full

I would for sure add the tuskegee syphilis study. They just let blacks get syphilis and didn't treat them to study them. Horrible shit.

Very horrible event indeed

Indeed, a very horrible event

I concur

I finally get the joke in Half Baked where Dave Chapelles character says his dad was part of the Tuskegee experiments. So thanks

So happy with how long that post is good job

Saved! Future bed time reads. Thank you!

You can read this and then fall asleep? Wow.

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Fucking capitalism.

Corporatism*

Haha well no not rly. Capitalism is the cancer of humanity.

no. communism is

Oh lol is that why capitalism kills 20 million people a year? because communism is S P O O K Y? Stfu lol

Yeah yeah commission and socialism have a great track record. Mao Stalin, 0 deaths right?

Estimated 205 total million deaths in the name of capitalism (I would consider that a generously low number, but still). Got any other argument?

Wow just taking a glance at your posts... I'll just let you wallow in your madness. Have a good day. Go get some fresh air kid.

Good deflection! Really great argumentative technique. Super well done!

Coward.

Most of these conspiracies are against non-capitalist countries trying to win their own right to decide for themselves what their fate is, but the U.S is like "LOL NOPE YOU ARE COMMIES WE ARE GOING TO OVERTHROW YOUR GOVERNMENTS BECAUSE WE HAVE INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY IN WORKERS BEING OPPRESSED IN YOUR COUNTRIES SO WE CAN BUY YOUR OIL AND FRUIT FOR NEXT TO NOTHING WHILE YOU ALL WORK AS SLAVES LOL WE'RE GONNA INSTALL DICTATORSHIP IN YOUR COUNTRIES SO THAT YOUR PEOPLE WILL NEVER BE HEARD"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

for example

Ok. Why.

well for starters it's responsible for around 20 million deaths a year and massive global oppression of working people, as well as around 205 million deaths in total when genocide and total slaughter and war is included. And that's a modest number.

Also the fact that all the poorest countries in the world are capitalist is pretty significant.

There's a lot more. Here's a book you might enjoy: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/index.htm

It's not like communism has ever killed anyone right?

The current system in the western world is not capitalism, i already told you!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Capitalism, in and of itself is neither bad nor good; it is the implementation that matters. A government truly invested in the interests of the people is the missing counterbalance. We want the energy of the capitalistic enterprise under the hood but we need responsible government behind the wheel.

For example.

Government subsidies. These are inducements from the government to encourage wanted behavior. This might be subsidies for green investments, for example. Conversely, taxation is a deterrent. A properly functioning government should be able to use inducements and impediments to guide the interests of capitalism to those areas that are lawful, productive and available; sourcing the most easily optimized parts first and taxing the resulting economic growth.

Too bad it doesn't work anywhere and working people are still being extorted and income inequality is increasing and every single capitalist government is a corrupt cesspool of easily bribed sociopaths.

Capitalism is all good and well on paper. Doesn't work that way IRL though. 20 million deaths caused by capitalism every year. Pathetic.

I agree with all of your observations. You're right on each account. These are the result of the failure of governance. It is not a failure of capitalism; it is in fact indicative of the slavish obedience of capitalism to respond to positive market stimuli.

Can't the exact same argument be made about communism tho? Like it's such a non-argument rly. They both seem like utopian ideas. Socialism just makes a fuckton of a lot more sense to me, in the literal meaning/goal of socialism. Capitalism obviously isn't working in mankind's favor right now.

Ultimately, yes, all methods of governance are susceptible to corruption and when that happens all bets are off. That said, capitalism inspires and encourages and work ethic and creativity that frankly communism has done a poor job of copying. With good governance that enthusiasm for capital provides all the horsepower a market needs and with good governance that supercharged market doesn't trample We the People.

Thats an assumption on your part. Did you know that most social scientists and anthropologist agree that (non-sociopathic) humans work better with the motivation of helping eachother, than that of personal gain? Communism is human nature. Capitalism divides humans into groups in order for further extortion of the very people that produce everything (the proletariat). Read Capital by Karl Marx. :)

Semantics aside I see no difference. Care to explain?

Capitalism is based around the idea that the individual should accumulate capital, money. What happens is some of these become so rich they create companies and corporations that produce goods, and compete for it (competition makes prices low, and wages higher). So basically the rich dudes invest in the market to become richer, and in doing so they enrich the consumers.

Corporatism is when multiple corporations are allowed (by the government, through regulations) to lobby. (here i've been writing for a good 2 minutes before realizing i could just link you to a [video[(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DxXHh-p-O4)) This is another pretty big example.

I see no version of capitalism that does not result in corruption.

Corporations and individuals are allowed to lobby government. Its protected speech. Its as if you want to blame government and regulations for greed. That's just a normal human condition.

Before continuing the discussion i'd like to clarify i don't see capitalism as the best system possible. I'd argue some form of voluntarism/anarchy would best for our current situation, but the jump seems hard right now, a free capitalist market is way easier to grasp.

Second thing is we're on r/conspiracy, so you well know that the problem isn't the economic model: the government gets lobbied because it allows it. The problem lies in the privatization of banks and their relations with other influencers (CEOs and politicians). Most systems would automatically fix themselves without poison in them.

Regulations are capitalism's poison. A free market, in which consumers can effectively choose who to buy goods from (not from a "team of corporations") is good for everyone. The richer the producers get, the more they invest the more wealth (this is a keyword: wealth doesn't equal money) is produced.

the government gets lobbied because it allows it

They have no choice in the matter. Lobbying the government is free, protected speech.

Without regulation, the rich and powerful would do want they want unrestricted. Getting rid of regulations would fix nothing.

A free market, in which consumers can effectively choose who to buy goods from (not from a "team of corporations")

I don't know where you live, but I can make my own consumer choices. I don't have to buy from a team of corporations if I don't want to. Yeah certain things like gas, electricity, etc are a lot harder to get without dealing with a corporation, but its possible to go without gas. You can go off the grid for electricity.

They have no choice in the matter. Lobbying the government is free, protected speech

Nope nope: if the government gets asked to "buy my product 'cause there's many of us see? We can help you!" it should deny the offer and investigate the group. Our government allows itself to be lobbied. Again, you should know why...

Some even believe we [Rockefeller family] are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - One World, if you will.If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it. (David Rockefeller, Memoirs.)

I don't know where you live, but I can make my own consumer choices

Corporatism is subtle, you as the consumer can't know who the team is made of. Yeah sure you're less likely to buy the highest price product, but if you fall into a marketplace that is "allied" with others (thus creating a hidden monopoly) the prices will always be higher, and wages always lower!

Brilliant. Terrifying, but brilliant.

Is there a story behind the user name?

It's people like you that make life easier

The real world is an ugly place

The real world is beautiful but filled with ugly people

So... What do you propose we do?

How far are you willing to go?

As far as your willing to take me

Are you asking for an advice?

Cosmetic surgery

Would you like a bigger nose?

To make the Greenwood situation in Tulsa even worse, the Greenwood area was relabeled Brady District long ago after Wyatt Brady, a known KKK member. The district has recently blossomed/gentrified and due to backlash over the Brady name in the last few years, the local business association has decided to rename it. They announced the list of final 3 choices for the public to vote on. Whats not on the finalist list? Greenwood, although I would wager that if Greenwood was on the list it would win in a landslide.

Sick... nice man

How is any of this hidden or a conspiracy? Serious question.

I don't know why people are downvoting you, and I don't know if I'm really a person to answer your question. But it seems to me that the only things "everybody" knows about are in the human experimentation section.

Really?

Yes. I don't think any of these are "secret" any longer

Yeah only because they were exposed by whistleblowers and investigative journalism. Something doesn't become okay just because it isn't hidden anymore. It still would be hidden if the government and corporations had their way.

And they are definitely conspiracies. Maybe you could argue with some of them, but you're really going to say none of these are conspiracies? Then what is a conspiracy?

That's my point. That a true successful conspiracy is invisible. De facto all of these are in some sense failures at conspiracy.

I don't even know what to say to that.

Okay let's quit the semantics game. Do you think these 'non-conspiracies by definition' are important? Do you believe they were wrong to do these things?

? Of course I do.

Then what is your point

libor rate fixing

This one is huge, too. I thought the HSBC money laundering was an impressive collection of zeroes and commas but the LIBOR thing dwarfs that.

For those as lazy as OP

Non-Mobile link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libor_scandal

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Can I recommend archiving each page, especially wiki? It's very easy for sites to scrub this info if it gets attention and someone doesn't want it to.

u/666mountains

We should all look over this and sidebar it as a quick reference

Noce list. Pretty sure the heart attack gun was deployed to silence breitbart after he started mentioned that creep podestathamolesta in public

Absolutely shocking stuff.

Slow Clap

Is Monsanto on here? Cause I didn't see Monsanto,

Don't forget about Bayer knowingly selling HIV contaminated medications to asia and latin america.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/may/23/aids.suzannegoldenberg

Amazing how in the last 30 years to mention any of those was like wearing a nutjob badge. Disinformation is a serious game you sheeps

Add the una oil conspiracy. It coincidentally came out the day after the cia released the panama papers

"in what is considered one of the worst incidents of racial violence in United States history."

Got this far and guffawed. May want to say "...recent history...".

Boy am i gonna be reading a lot tonight

If there's no mention of 9-11-01, rest assured it's a gatekeeper's list, much like the incomplete list on the sidebar.

This was made to bring people up to speed about what we actually know is true.

You've proven my point, gatekeeper.

Newton's laws of motion prove, without a shadow of a doubt, that both Twin Towers and WTC7 were brought down with unique controlled demolitions. If there's no mention of the controlled demos from 9-11-01, (ahem) *rest assured it's a gatekeeper's list, much like yours!

Decent point. Once we get NIST numbers we can add this to the list.

a conspiracy such as 9/11 would discredit the entire list.

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This was made to bring people up to speed about what we actually know is true.

You've proven my point, gatekeeper.

Newton's laws of motion prove, without a shadow of a doubt, that both Twin Towers and WTC7 were brought down with unique controlled demolitions. I don't need to debate endlessly on the incendiary Because of Newton's laws!

If there's no mention of the controlled demos from 9-11-01, (ahem) rest assured it's a gatekeeper's list, much like yours!

calm down bud

Get over yourself bud. I told you about a truth and you're gatekeeping. No smoke and mirrors, just facts.

I'm not paid to...

Gatekeepers don't need to be paid to gatekeep.

You're overly paranoid.

Projection. I don't take kindly to projection from gatekeepers who refuse to address a proven conspiracy. As a gatekeeper YOU decide the criteria of a proven conspiracy. That's what gatekeepers do! It's the definition of gatekeeping!!

There's already a guy in another thread who discredited the entire post. He said...that's why I can't add things that are disputed.

False equivalency from the gatekeeper. That's what gatekeepers do, they make excuses for why you can't enter the gate.

You're a gatekeeper Harry.

It's comforting to think that someone is in control, isn't it?

Make /r/Conspiracy actually about conspiracies again!

When are we going to put flat earth on this list?

The point of this list is to acknowledge those conspiracies proven true. Have you proof of a flat earth?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQArDd3ybp7wm37TTmKu9Wg

TIL there are at least 125167 people I can't hang with.

Saving this for later as I was only aware of around half of the conspiracy realities in this post.

Water Quality

NOVEMBER 1979 – Annapolis: Operator fails to close valve of fluoride container; causing 1,000 gallons of fluoride to be dumped into the water supply. 1 dialysis patient dies, 1 suffers a heart attack, 1 develops long-term brain damage, while others experience nausea, hypotension (low blood pressure), chest pain or pressure, diarrhea, itching, flushing, vomiting (blood tinged), weakness, dyspnea (breathing difficulty), profuse sweating, shakiness, localized numbness, abdominal cramping, and headache. Others not on dialysis experience nausea, headache, abdominal cramps, diarrhea, and dizziness. Pepsi Cola files suit for $1.6 million for damage to product, while a surviving dialysis patient with resulting brain damage sues for $210 million. (SOURCE: Bevis 1981 | Evening Capital 1982. Also, Baltimore Sun (11/28/79); Clinical Toxicology, Vol. 18, No.5, pp. 531-541, 1981; “Field Investigations Report”, Dept of Health and Mental Hygiene (3/19/80); MMWR, Center for Disease Control, 29:No. 12 (3/28/80))

"Conspiracy theorists are crazy!"

No, sport. It's crazy to twiddle your thumbs and not question anything. It's crazy to assume huge organizations have your best interest in mind.

Very well said.

Awesome! Thanks for not letting me get anything done for a while

Thank you for this

GlaxoSmithKline fined $6 billion,. Oxycontin maker ordered to pay $600 million.

Who receives this money?

Are new guidelines/laws set in place that stops a company, or even GlaxoSmithKline, from using the same practices that resulted in a $6bn fine?

In the human experimentation, it misses the experience of using airborne lsd on a south french town, by the CIA, after WWII.

Link?

It wasn't airborne but spilled in local food apparently : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7415082/French-bread-spiked-with-LSD-in-CIA-experiment.html

Not saying it wasn't LSD, but the hallucinations they described sound more like deliriants. Which produce more frightful and "true" hallucinations which can't be discerned from reality, opposed to LSD which doesn't put you into a delirious state.

There are known moulds which act as strong deliriants. They could have also easily poisoned the bread with something other than LSD

Is there a list of plausible conspiracies lying about? Though that one may be hard to curate given the greater influence of one's perception of truth is...

Yeah, all of them could be argued as being plausible. That is how they start, someone finds a piece of evidence or makes an argument to show how the unthinkable is possible.

I don't see anything about Iran-Contra, which was a proven conspiracy that involved the CIA (and the DEA) under Reagan selling weapons to the Iranians and running guns and cocaine (starting the crack epidemic in LA) to arm the Contras in Nicaragua.

There's also the BCCI scandal, which was a bank shared by political elites (the Bushes, for example) as well as terrorists (bin Laden) and drug lords/cartels.

"The Enterprise" isn't what Iran-Contra is commonly known as, so perhaps it needs to be renamed. Also, the linked article seems a little short and doesn't really describe the width and depth of the scandal.

If you tried to make your links - stuff that many people don't know about.... why do you assume there are "stuff alot of people did know about?"

If I were searching for proavable conspiracies - my first search would be JFK assassination coverup and the mason's secret organization, maybe illuminati

but beyond that I cannot think of any other conspiracies - "I know about" to enough of a degree that I feel confident to talk knowledgably on the topic.

I feel like "the church" is a conspiracy to keep people in line - and do what the good book tells them - while also getting their monthly tithe - a voluntary donation of 10% or more of earnings.

I feel like "race wars" is some bullshit the mainstream media is selling to convince the minorities to rise up and fight "the man"

and I feel like gender equality (and gender neutrality) and gender identity crises - and all that crap - id something that the media is selling and sensationalizing - but I am not sure who stands to gain the most from that crap.

Great work.

Can someone put this into a pastebin for download? I'm on mobile.

inb4 mysteriously deleted

Holy shit thats a very long list. I can't wAit to get outta work and go through it. Thanks for posting this

Wow, well done.

Thank you OP!

Just got a Big Berkey so my kids have a less of a chance of being victims of tainted water.

The quality of Hollywood's more expensive films relative to how much is spent on them, makes me suspicious that Hollywood is just a giant money laundering market for all the slush funds from three letter agencies.

nice

Margo Hobbes and Hermann Wenzel. This is their connection -> http://tpwtdhs.tumblr.com

This is good to know

If there's no mention of the controlled demolitions of 9-11-01 (Newton's laws of motion prove CD), rest assured it's a gatekeeper's list, much like the incomplete list on the sidebar.

This is why I've stayed subscribed to this sub. Thanks OP

Maybe a little proven conspiracy regarding 'planned obsolescence' could be considered for the list.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel

Why is the one about canada dead?

Its even weirder that it's gone from the way back machine.

thanks.

Commenting for future reference

I don't see the Bay of Pigs invasion on here. It was CIA sponsored and directed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion

This is real life conspiracy here

Thanks for this delicious compilation, u/MKULTRA_Escapee

I already know about a lot of these, but some are new to me. Time to dig in and read some more juicy conspiracies.

Jet fuel melts steel beams. But what about WTC7.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Blue_Book

Yeah yeah commission and socialism have a great track record. Mao Stalin, 0 deaths right?

Estimated 205 total million deaths in the name of capitalism (I would consider that a generously low number, but still). Got any other argument?

And then when internal violence will seem to get out of hand and will hurt commerce and other interests. Then there will be external enemy, could be Muslims, Chinese, NK, Russians, Indians, who the fuck knows where this roulette stops. Then the US will united again against the common enemy and then some poor foreign schmuck will fuckin be a result of a hate crime. As a brown man, it could be me. Who knows.

It's either Ricks killing Ricks or Morties killing Morties or Ricks killing Morties. But it's the same old story, man.

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I'll be sure to now next time, oh wise one