I don't have to... you are welcome to hang out here, but it's obviously not where you wanna be right now... so if ya just left you'd stop wasting your time.
But if ya wanna be a little crybaby and complain about how your in a place you don't wanna be... when you willingly came to that place... then yer prolly not gonna get a bunch of pity-hugs or whatever yer looking for.
Yeah... I guess the douchebag entrance isn't the best way to make friends... all your old friends are gone to other subs... you should go try to find them.
I don't even know what verit is... I just know you are a place you don't wanna be filled with people that don't want you here... you are free to bop around and act like a douchenozzle if ya want... but yer not gonna get too much attention for it aside from myself and a couple other folks... everyone else will just ignore it.
Yup... and now you have a situation where one douchebag makes a shitty topic and then another douchebag comes in and talks shit about it... and now those two douchebags end up quarantined together in that shitty topic.
It's a good system to keep the douchebags from infiltrating all the other topics.
but we aren't quarantined, if either of us had anything relevant to say about any other topic we could go there and say it. I was a mod on voat's pizzagate forum for months and left because their mods were becoming insane. I used to delete the 'LETS KILL PODESTA' posts, but then mods started deleting posts that seemed to have any kind of left-leaning mentality solely because they viewed pizzagate as a 'right wing' conspiracy.
Yeah just like reddit suckered you in... if I go over to voat will i be able to find a douchebaggy "I'm leaving, this place is a shithole." post from you?
Well ya ever heard the saying "You can't go home again."? Thats what yer feeling here... you gotta just keep looking till ya find the place that is right for you... you can't just come to a huge sub and think you can bend it to what you want it to be...
LOL not what I was trying to do. Look, honestly everyone who has responded here seems cool, and I definitely see some topics I'm interested in here. I can admit I had a knee jerk reaction.
I'll stick around this time, give it a more objective analysis. So far, so good.
Haha omg go to Verit right now. It's amazing. Its a new site Peter The put out little memes with "verified facts". It's great because they don't know what facts are. It's dumb shit like a quote from Donna Brazile saying it wasn't Clinton's fault she lost and things of that nature. One of her campaign people made it.
It may be funny, but it's another symptom of a big problem.
I'm reading "What Happened" and it's funny, but it's also cringey as fuck and I know people will read it and treat it as gospel so it's hard to really appreciate how funny it is.
I'm not speaking from that kind of experience since I haven't been here ina long long time. I'm talking about the format, and how people seem to echo chamber to disprove conspiracies without research. This place used to have direct lines to /pol/ (for research) while maintaining order in a way Pol never could.
I'm talking about the format, and how people seem to echo chamber to disprove conspiracies without research.
This has always happened and I'm glad it does to a certain extend. It's called freedom, any one can post and discuss any topic for the most part. Still don't see how this makes us "Snow Flakes"? Show me another major sub that would allow a self post like yours, besides undelete of course?
This is notable but I made sure to make this post actually reflective on the state of the sub, it doesn't break the rules (unless a newmod decides it does, that rule about 'relevant self posts' is ultimately up to interpretation)
It breaks rule 12 & rule 10 imo, but I bet the mods don't care enough to remove it. Also, how would you know if it would be removed, you just came back after not being here for a while?
"You will notice a huge influx of "racist comments" everywhere...and then comes there reason to lock down the internet."
A subreddit making rules isn't locking down the internet, as you are not only free to make your own sub but you are free to host any legal and protected content you wish.
THIS RIGHT THERE! You don't ban, delete, hide, etc...JUST IGNORE THEM! We naturally ignore the shills and trolls anyways. This is being manufactured. You will notice a huge influx of "racist comments" everywhere...and then comes there reason to lock down the internet.
Censorship in a conspiracy sub is a way to drive out the people who actually want to talk about conspiracies.
Show me censorship? I know of one post removed 3 months ago, and I don't agree with it, but it's very rare. Rare enough that posts like this are clearly created to just attack the sub.
Trolling is super subjective. Obvious troll posts should be ignored. This is supposed to be a place of elevated discourse, not of petty restrictions on what can be said. It’s basically an admission that we can’t police ourselves. Maybe that’s true. I would disagree.
It must be a very long time since you were last here as the rules have been pretty similar for around 5 years now... The fact is, as someone else has pointed out, the rules have evolved constantly to reflect the state of play on the sub. Expecting everything to stay the same on the offchance you feel like returning is the height of naivety, you presumably have no idea how much the moderating challenges and general state-of-play have evolved since you were a regular.
The elder mods you remembered from before have either moved on for their own reasons, good or bad, or somehow upset the userbase/other mods and have been removed.
This is the most condescending thing I’ve read all day. You didn’t tell him anything he clearly doesn’t already understand. He’s highlighting the changes as bad, not pretending they don’t exist.
Your account history is interesting. You seem to be anti-sjw, and make profiles of Antifa terrorists, so i dig that. Is the Antifa profile videos something you make from scratch? Can you tell me more about the process?
I believe it's only a matter of time. Antifa could have kept playing this game, but their ranks got antsy and now they're doing more violent shit than their parents' legal teams can cover up.
Then how do you know all your friends aren't still here, just under different accounts? And they just don't like your whinny post so aren't talking to you
Yup... and now you have a situation where one douchebag makes a shitty topic and then another douchebag comes in and talks shit about it... and now those two douchebags end up quarantined together in that shitty topic.
It's a good system to keep the douchebags from infiltrating all the other topics.
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1 Ninjakick666 2017-09-20
Yeah... You were right to leave, so why'd you come back?
Maybe it's time to leave again already... peace out.
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
Make me.
1 Ninjakick666 2017-09-20
I don't have to... you are welcome to hang out here, but it's obviously not where you wanna be right now... so if ya just left you'd stop wasting your time.
But if ya wanna be a little crybaby and complain about how your in a place you don't wanna be... when you willingly came to that place... then yer prolly not gonna get a bunch of pity-hugs or whatever yer looking for.
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
I'm looking for anyone I recognize, so far nobody. They're probably all gone. Not a crime to try.
1 Ninjakick666 2017-09-20
Yeah... I guess the douchebag entrance isn't the best way to make friends... all your old friends are gone to other subs... you should go try to find them.
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
You are really disproving the claim that you're a snowflake. This entrance was fucking TAME.
You sad that verit didn't catch on?
1 Ninjakick666 2017-09-20
I don't even know what verit is... I just know you are a place you don't wanna be filled with people that don't want you here... you are free to bop around and act like a douchenozzle if ya want... but yer not gonna get too much attention for it aside from myself and a couple other folks... everyone else will just ignore it.
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
That's a good point to make. It used to be, if someone said some racist slurs or posted unverifiable things, they were just ignored.
1 Ninjakick666 2017-09-20
Yup... and now you have a situation where one douchebag makes a shitty topic and then another douchebag comes in and talks shit about it... and now those two douchebags end up quarantined together in that shitty topic.
It's a good system to keep the douchebags from infiltrating all the other topics.
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
but we aren't quarantined, if either of us had anything relevant to say about any other topic we could go there and say it. I was a mod on voat's pizzagate forum for months and left because their mods were becoming insane. I used to delete the 'LETS KILL PODESTA' posts, but then mods started deleting posts that seemed to have any kind of left-leaning mentality solely because they viewed pizzagate as a 'right wing' conspiracy.
1 Ninjakick666 2017-09-20
Jesus... you like voat and 4chan and then come over to reddit and complain that they got too many rules. When is summer vacation over?
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
I like Pol, kind of. Voat is dumb, but they suckered me in for a while before I realized.
1 Ninjakick666 2017-09-20
Yeah just like reddit suckered you in... if I go over to voat will i be able to find a douchebaggy "I'm leaving, this place is a shithole." post from you?
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
HAHA no. I haven't been on Voat in a very long time either.
1 Ninjakick666 2017-09-20
Well ya ever heard the saying "You can't go home again."? Thats what yer feeling here... you gotta just keep looking till ya find the place that is right for you... you can't just come to a huge sub and think you can bend it to what you want it to be...
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
LOL not what I was trying to do. Look, honestly everyone who has responded here seems cool, and I definitely see some topics I'm interested in here. I can admit I had a knee jerk reaction.
I'll stick around this time, give it a more objective analysis. So far, so good.
1 Ninjakick666 2017-09-20
Now that it is outta yer system ya can start posting some more conspiracies and less complaining.
1 NarwhalStreet 2017-09-20
Haha omg go to Verit right now. It's amazing. Its a new site Peter The put out little memes with "verified facts". It's great because they don't know what facts are. It's dumb shit like a quote from Donna Brazile saying it wasn't Clinton's fault she lost and things of that nature. One of her campaign people made it.
1 Ninjakick666 2017-09-20
Not my cup of tea... it sounds like a more retarded 4chan.
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
It may be funny, but it's another symptom of a big problem.
I'm reading "What Happened" and it's funny, but it's also cringey as fuck and I know people will read it and treat it as gospel so it's hard to really appreciate how funny it is.
1 NarwhalStreet 2017-09-20
I agree. Seems like most people were shitting on both of those immediately, but I know there are people who read those things and agree. Pretty gross.
1 Kancer86 2017-09-20
you've been here 6 months. i don't recognize you.
1 goroboldo 2017-09-20
Look out folks, we got a tough guy here!
1 Kolyin 2017-09-20
"I was right to take that vow of silence!", cried the hypocrite.
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
No, I decided to make a youtube channel instead. Less censored than this place. My videos may not be ad friendly but at least they're still there.
1 kit8642 2017-09-20
What posts have been removed from this sub? Genuinely interested. Thanks
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
I'm not speaking from that kind of experience since I haven't been here ina long long time. I'm talking about the format, and how people seem to echo chamber to disprove conspiracies without research. This place used to have direct lines to /pol/ (for research) while maintaining order in a way Pol never could.
It was perfect until just before the election.
1 kit8642 2017-09-20
This has always happened and I'm glad it does to a certain extend. It's called freedom, any one can post and discuss any topic for the most part. Still don't see how this makes us "Snow Flakes"? Show me another major sub that would allow a self post like yours, besides undelete of course?
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
This is notable but I made sure to make this post actually reflective on the state of the sub, it doesn't break the rules (unless a newmod decides it does, that rule about 'relevant self posts' is ultimately up to interpretation)
1 kit8642 2017-09-20
It breaks rule 12 & rule 10 imo, but I bet the mods don't care enough to remove it. Also, how would you know if it would be removed, you just came back after not being here for a while?
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
because the 'content/context' in self posts rule is 100% subjective and vague as fuck.
1 kit8642 2017-09-20
Just like most the rules on reddit, but they are barely enforce, and this post is a testament to that.
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
I will acknowledge that point.
1 goroboldo 2017-09-20
Link to channel please!
1 kit8642 2017-09-20
What rules and mods specifically are you talking about?
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
Only mods I recognize are axolotl, assuredlyathrowaway nucensorship and ambig. username13 kinda rings a bell too.
and the rules I'm talking about are the 'no slurs' 'no trolling' 'no caps lock' ones.
We didn't need those rules. Posts spamming obvious slurs or obvious trolls were usually just ignored. That's all we needed.
1 Scion1991 2017-09-20
You would rather more people scream slurs in all caps? Clearly the rule didn't pop up without a reason.
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
No, I'd rather those people be ignored not deleted.
1 Scion1991 2017-09-20
It's good that we're all free to have opinions.
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
True, unless you type it in all caps or the mods decide your post lacks 'content' or 'context' (posts like that used to just be ignored, not deleted.)
1 Scion1991 2017-09-20
Do you think the rules you disagree with just appeared out of thin air, or is it possible that they appeared due to userbase behavior?
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
1 Scion1991 2017-09-20
A subreddit making rules isn't locking down the internet, as you are not only free to make your own sub but you are free to host any legal and protected content you wish.
1 Kasperhashops 2017-09-20
He’s saying it doesn’t matter. Then we lose more by having these rules in place than we gain. Are you purposefully missing his point?
1 Scion1991 2017-09-20
What do we lose?
1 Kasperhashops 2017-09-20
The ability for us to police ourselves as much as possible. Hence, the voting system.
1 Scion1991 2017-09-20
The voting system is still in place.
1 Kasperhashops 2017-09-20
I have no problem with banning doxing. WTF does that have to do with ALL CAPS.
1 Scion1991 2017-09-20
So then, which rules are good and which ones are bad, according to your personal belief system that we must adhere to?
1 Kasperhashops 2017-09-20
There should be SOME policing. This is a matter degree. I’m not questioning the concept of moderation in general.
1 Scion1991 2017-09-20
You don't think the all caps rule appeared because every other idiot on the sub was posting titles in all caps, do ya?
1 Kasperhashops 2017-09-20
Of course every new rule is going to be a response to something that is happening?
That isn’t even a point to be made at all.
1 Scion1991 2017-09-20
I'm confused as to what you want, then. Do you want a million posts in all caps? Because that's what will happen.
1 Kasperhashops 2017-09-20
Funny how it didn’t happen for like 10 years.
1 Scion1991 2017-09-20
Hilarious, in fact.
1 Kasperhashops 2017-09-20
If people type in all caps it just makes it easier for me to know who to ignore. It doesn’t need to go beyond that.
1 Scion1991 2017-09-20
Welp, agree to disagree then!
1 buttwarmer333 2017-09-20
THIS RIGHT THERE! You don't ban, delete, hide, etc...JUST IGNORE THEM! We naturally ignore the shills and trolls anyways. This is being manufactured. You will notice a huge influx of "racist comments" everywhere...and then comes there reason to lock down the internet.
1 Kasperhashops 2017-09-20
This man knows what’s up. Greet post buttwarmer333
1 kit8642 2017-09-20
So you take issues with, don't be an asshole, but talk about anything you like.
They are barely enforced, and I don't mind them.
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
That's great for you. I do mind them. Censorship in a conspiracy sub is a way to drive out the people who actually want to talk about conspiracies.
1 kit8642 2017-09-20
Show me censorship? I know of one post removed 3 months ago, and I don't agree with it, but it's very rare. Rare enough that posts like this are clearly created to just attack the sub.
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
I'm just going based on the rules
1 kit8642 2017-09-20
And those rules basically say, "don't be an asshole" and are rarely enforced imo.
1 Kasperhashops 2017-09-20
Trolling is super subjective. Obvious troll posts should be ignored. This is supposed to be a place of elevated discourse, not of petty restrictions on what can be said. It’s basically an admission that we can’t police ourselves. Maybe that’s true. I would disagree.
1 voatsuckz 2017-09-20
Thats a nice reptilian tatoo.
So are you that faggot reptilian pizzagate mod?
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
Uh no lol. Look, I'm not going to judge if you believe in the reptoids but...
Just no lol
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
which one, btw? The snake or the dragon?
1 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2017-09-20
https://web.archive.org/web/20130205035246/http://www.reddit.com/r/Conspiracy
It must be a very long time since you were last here as the rules have been pretty similar for around 5 years now... The fact is, as someone else has pointed out, the rules have evolved constantly to reflect the state of play on the sub. Expecting everything to stay the same on the offchance you feel like returning is the height of naivety, you presumably have no idea how much the moderating challenges and general state-of-play have evolved since you were a regular.
The elder mods you remembered from before have either moved on for their own reasons, good or bad, or somehow upset the userbase/other mods and have been removed.
Things change man, that's life.
1 Kasperhashops 2017-09-20
This is the most condescending thing I’ve read all day. You didn’t tell him anything he clearly doesn’t already understand. He’s highlighting the changes as bad, not pretending they don’t exist.
But hey, why skip a chance to act superior.
1 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2017-09-20
So what the hell is the point of the post in your opinion? Just whining?
1 Kasperhashops 2017-09-20
Maybe throwing up a flag to see if anyone else feels the same way. Trying to start gasp a discussion about it.
Considering it’s about censorship I’d think a thread like this would be totally appropriate on this sub.
1 IntellisaurDinoAlien 2017-09-20
It's not about censorship though IMO, it's more like 'Old Man Yells At Cloud'.
1 Kasperhashops 2017-09-20
LMFAO
1 IHateSherrod 2017-09-20
well, Bye.
1 inyourarea 2017-09-20
Wait of you left reddit, how are you posting here? That's the real conspiracy!
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
I mean... my account was still there I just didn't use it.
1 inyourarea 2017-09-20
welcome back I guess! :)
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
ayyyy
1 inyourarea 2017-09-20
Your account history is interesting. You seem to be anti-sjw, and make profiles of Antifa terrorists, so i dig that. Is the Antifa profile videos something you make from scratch? Can you tell me more about the process?
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
I make the antifa profiles by compiling my research with readily available videos of said antifa terrorists.
The Daryle Jenkins vid was intended to be more divisive, but he really isn't as bad as Yvette so it kind of had kid gloves on
1 inyourarea 2017-09-20
Word. Keep up the good work. These bastards need to be all unmasked and in jail!
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
I believe it's only a matter of time. Antifa could have kept playing this game, but their ranks got antsy and now they're doing more violent shit than their parents' legal teams can cover up.
1 inyourarea 2017-09-20
It's almost like they weren't expecting a DOJ run by anyone other than their handlers ;)
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
Yes, well said
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
And also thank you.
1 KnigTypo 2017-09-20
OP's user history goes back 201 days. The subreddit rules haven't changed in that time.
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
Yeah because no one has more than one reddit account
1 PantsMcGillicuddy 2017-09-20
Then how do you know all your friends aren't still here, just under different accounts? And they just don't like your whinny post so aren't talking to you
1 HRCiskindacute 2017-09-20
I also don't believe in rule 10. But yoos a liar.
1 Phobos_Mothership 2017-09-20
You are really disproving the claim that you're a snowflake. This entrance was fucking TAME.
You sad that verit didn't catch on?
1 Ninjakick666 2017-09-20
Yup... and now you have a situation where one douchebag makes a shitty topic and then another douchebag comes in and talks shit about it... and now those two douchebags end up quarantined together in that shitty topic.
It's a good system to keep the douchebags from infiltrating all the other topics.
1 Scion1991 2017-09-20
What do we lose?
1 Ninjakick666 2017-09-20
Now that it is outta yer system ya can start posting some more conspiracies and less complaining.
1 Kasperhashops 2017-09-20
The ability for us to police ourselves as much as possible. Hence, the voting system.
1 Scion1991 2017-09-20
The voting system is still in place.
1 Kasperhashops 2017-09-20
Of course every new rule is going to be a response to something that is happening?
That isn’t even a point to be made at all.
1 Kasperhashops 2017-09-20
If people type in all caps it just makes it easier for me to know who to ignore. It doesn’t need to go beyond that.