Hollywood Pedophilia 26

You know that article is fiction right. Neon nettle posts made up stories a lot and you seem stupid enough to believe them and not even do your own research. Don't be thick try to think for yourself next time yeah

1 Kind_Of_A_Dick 2017-09-28

There's very little reason to be insulting, unless you're trying to ruin your own argument.

1 12by12by12 2017-09-28

There's very little reason to be insulting,

Someone is trying to pass off fiction on a conspiracy sub and you think being mean is the problem?

1 zobicus 2017-09-28

User name doesn't check out.

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

Who, mine?

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

LOL!

1 Kind_Of_A_Dick 2017-09-28

Thanks for the link, but I'm not very trusting of Neon Nettle. Is there any more info available, such as when the interview took place and with who? It seems there's just snippets, but you'd assume there would be a full article with the entire interview available.

I'm pointing out that there might be a problem with the source because it could reflect poorly on you and your efforts if it's shown to be bullshit.

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

Feel free to google!

1 throw1wyth 2017-09-28

Fake news man, sorry

http://www.snopes.com/brad-pitt-elite-hollywood/

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

Snopes has less credibility than NeonNettle. But thanks.

1 throw1wyth 2017-09-28

The creator of snopes might be having a bad divorce but it’s a pretty ok website in general

Sorry that you are on the wrong side of this one

1 ShinigamiSirius 2017-09-28

Neon Nettle and Snopes are both shit sources.

Sorry that you are on the wrong side of this one

1 throw1wyth 2017-09-28

Hey I am not the “journalist” here

I am just saying fake news when I see it

Fake news

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

Fake enough to look sketchy. I pulled both sections. Let me know if you see any further issues with the piece.

And thank you!

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

Nah. I appreciate the corrections.

I pulled both those sections.

1 devils_advocaat 2017-09-28

Slopes is good for urban myths, bad for current affairs.

1 Sluts_Love_Me 2017-09-28

Snopes has as much credibility as the SPLC....zero.

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

I could not agree more. They are definitely in the same category.

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

Not your fault. My fault. I should have known better as I wrote the first draft.

1 throw1wyth 2017-09-28

Thanks 🙏

1 throw1wyth 2017-09-28

It’s fake

http://www.snopes.com/brad-pitt-elite-hollywood/

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

I will say it again. Snopes is no arbiter of reality. Relying on Snopes for your "facts" is just laziness. But thanks.

1 throw1wyth 2017-09-28

I am not pretending to be a journalist

Pick any of the websites that say it’s fake

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

I pulled the section. It was weakly sourced. Thanks for pointing me at it.

1 redblaze17 2017-09-28

Who do you rely on for facts then? The national enquirer?

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

Sometimes! The National Enquirer was better on Donald Trump than The New York Times in the last election cycle.

But you raise a good point. Who do we trust? I say that we must trust one another.

When I get nailed failing to research deep enough and hard enough, I have to be grateful for the correction, because this is a serious subject, and I am trying hard to do good work.

When the work is not so good, I have to find it within myself to be humble and to admit that I should have done better work.

I thank you all.

1 get_it_together1 2017-09-28

You're kidding, right? Trump and the owner of the Enquirer are close friends, Trump used the threat of an Enquirer story against Joe Scarborough.

1 ddaniels02 2017-09-28

agreed. whoever references snopes outside of a joke or criticism is very much asleep.

1 Dasittmane 2017-09-28

"it's fake", proceeds to use a propaganda site to prove it

1 SnugMeatSocks 2017-09-28

Snopes? In this sub? lol

1 throw1wyth 2017-09-28

You can hate snopes, but those two interviews are fake

1 PillagePeople 2017-09-28

There's definitely some vile shit going on. Is they're a link to the RDJ quotes in there? I'd like to read up more on his words.

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

The link is there:

http://www.neon-nettle.com/news/2565-robert-downey-jr-blows-the-whistle-on-elite-hollywood-pedophile-ring

1 PillagePeople 2017-09-28

Thanks OP! Bright as hell out here and couldn't see the hyperlink at the time.

1 throw1wyth 2017-09-28

Also fake

https://www.gossipcop.com/robert-downey-jr-hollywood-pedophile-ring/

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

Now that is much more credible.

Again, it says that NeonNettle is fake news. And it very well may be.

I am going to think on this piece overnight, and I may end up pulling it tomorrow morning for major revision.

I am not embarrassed to be proven wrong. And I will not permit one flawed piece to detract from the rest of the series, which exposes something which is undeniably happening, something which deserves our best efforts and our focused attention.

I thank you all for your sharp eyes, and for your comments.

1 throw1wyth 2017-09-28

I am not suggesting that their is not a very clear issue of children being taken advantage of in Hollywood- I think that’s true of children in any organization where money is involved and people are desperate for attention

I am just pointing out that a lot of these stories are very clearly fake

I really enjoy true crime and Hollywood podcasts and blogs, it’s not hard to see fake stuff when you follow this stuff

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

You make a very good point. I pulled the two sections from the piece, and it does not change the analysis nor the conclusions.

My research was not as critical as it should have been in this case, and I should have known better when I wrote the first draft.

1 Kind_Of_A_Dick 2017-09-28

I was going to post earlier and say you should look deeper into those quotes and edit your article if you find they're not supported. If someone wants to attack the legitimacy of your work, they need not refute your conclusions or premise. All they need to do is find a minor flaw, attack that, and people will assume your entire article is equally incorrect.

1 throw1wyth 2017-09-28

I only brought up those two particular stories since they where very critical to your analysis

As far as I can tell a lot of the Nicole Kidman stuff is true, but seems more related to her father and later Scientology

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

I scratched pretty hard on comments credited to her about pedophilia and Stanley Kubrick, and again, there was just a lone source and it was not legacy media.

I use a lot of alternative media. I use it because it presents a viewpoint more attuned to my own, and because we all demonstrably see mainstream media lying to our faces every day.

But as this episode illustrates, care is needed. NeonNettle publishes much true reporting, and I mostly used it as a springboard to sites that they linked to in their reporting. The Robert Downey and the Brad Pitt articles were exceptions, and that should have clued me in.

But I missed the clue. As I said, confirmation bias got me and I wanted those interviews to be true.

I am thinking about writing a separate piece now about fake pedophile articles. I am a believer in false flags, and I also believe that there is organization, power, position and money behind some pedophilia activity. It is not out of the realm of the feasible that someone, something, is planting faked articles like these, for obvious reasons.

As this is the Conspiracy sub, this is the right place to present a thesis like that. MMFA and various shops sheltering under Podesta-linked entities are likely culprits.

1 throw1wyth 2017-09-28

I have been pretty upfront that I am a fact based person when it comes to the pedo conspiracy stuff

Personally I work with a lot of people with a lot of money and I just don’t see any of them needing to force anyone to do anything, it’s just my experience from working among the truly mega rich.

Hollywood people I absolutely believe are having sex with underaged people in the classic casting couch situation- people are pimping themselves and their children for points on shows or to get parts, I don’t consider it a conspiracy per se since it’s not a secret really and the only tool is money- like I don’t believe there is any mystical or really blackmail aspects to this outside of std stuff like how Jim Carey killed his gf for threatening to put his std https://www.google.com.tw/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/jim-carrey-cathriona-white-texts-8911008.amp

There is a lot to go through, and like the Carrey thing, a lot if facts- no need for wishful thinking and cabals

1 bittermanscolon 2017-09-28

Can you explain yourself a little better? Who among the "truly mega rich" are you working with? You're also a 9 day old account. Can you provide something to show where you come from and backup what you're saying here?

Usually, and especially on r/conspiracy a 9 day old account comes up and makes claims like these, people tend to be a little skeptical.

You've asked that people basically take your word for things here. Do you or can you show something add to the claimed credibility? I can say anything I like online, nothing prevents me from it.

Also, can you give your feelings on the cases laid out in the documentary "An Open Secret"? Your previous comments say that in some cases some people are simply looking for attention, what do you say in the cases shown here? Are they also just seeking attention and looking to "cash in" or do their statements hold up in your opinion being so closely tied to the "mega rich"?

1 throw1wyth 2017-09-28

I work in finance but I am not going into any details since I don’t want dox or ban hammers

Everything I claim about people who are not myself I cite

I have never seen an open secret but from what I have heard it makes claims similar to what I am familiar with, people take advantage of the talent, usually their parents or their reps, in exchange for roles or points.

I say with absolute certainty that if they came forward it’s because they did not get what they where promised on there deal- that’s why Hollywood is not constantly being over run with allegations, it’s because for the most part the sex for points pays out- these kids get roles and money, take their gigs and shuffle on- it’s when they don’t get the money that you get this movie

It’s all just sex and money. People with lots of money can use it to do lots of stupid shit and people who don’t have money will resort to selling themselves or people close to them for acess to money REALLY fast.

No one here needs to believe anything I say about anything that is just my opinions, if am asserting a fact like how Jim Carey killed his girlfriend over std blackmail I will cite it

I like Reddit because my job is dull and my friends enjoy hearing me discuss the latest weird thing you people decide is true

1 bittermanscolon 2017-09-28

You work with the mega rich in finance or hollywood? Both?

I say with absolute certainty that if they came forward it’s because they did not get what they where promised on there deal

So you're saying they're absolutely attention seekers even though these people went to court and got people sent to jail? They made it up and somehow got people arrested and incarcerated. That is an amazing claim.

I say with absolute certainty that if they came forward it’s because they did not get what they where promised on there deal

You work in finance and don't know when to use "their" instead of "there"? Really?

Thus....

People with lots of money can use it to do lots of stupid shit and people who don’t have money will resort to selling themselves or people close to them for acess to money REALLY fast.

It's just people clamoring for money, nothing to do with sexual predators or pedophiles. Going back to the people in the documentary, those people like Mike Egan, fabricated everything? Quite the claim.

I like Reddit because my job is dull and my friends enjoy hearing me discuss the latest weird thing you people decide is true

You're here for funsies then. Thanks for that tidbit of information.

There is not a single thing you can say to give you credibility, and you managed to cite snopes in a previous comment. You claim to work in "finance" with the "mega rich", don't know when to use "their" instead of "there" and are also bored and rich enough to come online and tell "us people" what is true and what is not.

Show your proof. You can claim doxxing and all that garbage and downvote all you like, no one here should listen to or upvote anything you've said. Your lax comments passing everything off as money driven, disregarding or being ignorant of the court cases and convictions show where you really are.

1 throw1wyth 2017-09-28

I am on mobile, I am not have a discussion about my job or about how little I care about checking my work for grammar while type on the toilet

I said they are mad they did not get their pay day

Think anything you want

1 bittermanscolon 2017-09-28

Someone in "finance" and works for the "mega rich" doesn't bother with coming online to defend hollywood pedophilia while sitting on the shitter. Besides, its been 30 minutes since that comment, you should probably pinch that one off and get on the old lappy and be consistent with your grammar.

No one in that industry would take you seriously if you could not get them right when you produce a report for them. For "there" portfolio or "their" portfolio. You would look like quite the fool. I challenge a claim like that, and the claim you're just here to "help" by posting snopes as a credible source.

You can say anything you like, the fact that you're not even aware of these actual court cases means you don't know anything about the subject. Yet make claims anyway.

I also don't need to believe a documentary as gospel, I know what went to court and who went to jail.

What I do know, and its funny you mention "where these people are right now", is that Marc Collins-Rector, one of the men shown in the documentary has actually disappeared! Authorities don't currently know where he is. Funny eh?

Mike Egan, the man who got Marty Weiss sent to jail can probably be found pretty easily, as he dropped his lawsuits against Bryan Singer after his lawyer withdrew as council. He can reapply.

I think a 9 day old account (now 8 day old) who comes here for funsies, apparently so he can chat with his finance buddies about how foolish people are on reddit, should stick to "finance" instead of sleuthing via snopes and the like. All you've demonstrated is ignorance and given people who read your comments zero reason to believe you.

1 throw1wyth 2017-09-28

There their

Don’t be a downer

Take your joy

1 bittermanscolon 2017-09-28

No joy when it comes to this subject.

1 bittermanscolon 2017-09-28

Who owns gossipcop?

1 Singularity2soon 2017-09-28

I kind of think, if Robert Downey Jr. had said the things he was quoted as saying...that would have made a news cycle or 2.

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

http://www.business2community.com/entertainment/brad-pitt-saying-elite-hollywood-pedophiles-control-america-hoax-01870861#f33YhIlfxH6EqMps.97

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/bjx8ed/no-brad-pitt-did-not-confirm-hollywood-is-a-child-sex-ring

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/07/03/51979/

Maybe somebody should ask Brad Pitt.

1 ELITISTS_ARE_SATANIC 2017-09-28

Vice is right. It's fake news.

1 grimview 2017-09-28

Children are used in scams to lower defenses. http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=130032&page=1 http://www.falseprofits.com/WhyWomenJoin.html

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

I like this one citing Nicole Kidman best:

http://www.datehookup.com/thread-1471553.htm

But that has nothing to do with Brad Pitt. As I see it, NeonNettle has a track record that is comparable to that of The New York Times. Except that The New York Times publishes outright lies.

NeonNettle posted this article, and it cited Brad Pitt. His publicist has not disavowed the quotes, nor the article. NeonNettle has not published a retraction.

In a perfect world, people like Brad Pitt would rush to correct or reinforce the record.

We live in the real world. If you prefer, read what Nicole Kidman said. Read what Elijah Wood said (and yes, I am aware that he walked back his comments). Read what Corey Feldman said.

I make no claim to omniscience. But I do try to do good research. In retrospect, I would rewrite the section citing Mr. Pitt to simply say, "It is alleged that Mr. Pitt did not make these statements, and NeonNettle is the lone source. Mr. Pitt has not disavowed the quotes, and his publicist has not corrected the record. NeonNettle has not issued a retraction."

In fact, I may just add that in.

1 Go_Spurs_Go 2017-09-28

Neon Nettle does not equal the NYT. At all. Christ.

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

NeonNettle has a better track record than The New York Times. As I see it, NeonNettle may be guilty of fabricating a couple of stories. It remains unproven, but it looks that way.

As I dig deeper into this, NeonNettle definitely looks sketchy.

The New York Times took us to war in Iraq. The New York Times told us that Donald Trump had no path to 270. I could go on, but my point is made.

The lies are bigger and more consequential from The Times, and they are worse, because it is the vaunted "newspaper of record."

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

As I dug into that piece on Nicole Kidman, it also has a dubious pedigree.

Maybe I read here in the Conspiracy sub too much, but it is odd that so much dubious stuff is cropping up in this idea space.

1 Go_Spurs_Go 2017-09-28

The NYT reported on polls. This election was historically close. You can’t fault them for reporting on the data, that’s just polling and probability. You can hold them accountable for the lead up to the Iraq War. But at least they addressed that issue, and to some extent, held themselves accountable for what had happened.

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/26/world/from-the-editors-the-times-and-iraq.html

That’s a big difference, the NYT is not perfect, will make mistakes, can be misled, but there is accountability there. (Easy to say after they helped lead us to war) Neon Nettle is not accountable in anyway, does not explain what happened when stories were wrong, or make an effort to be open and honest with their readers, even if it was after the fact.

Beyond the Iraq War the NYT has a pretty damn awesome track record of legitimate reporting, and continue to do so to this day.

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

How would you characterize their reporting on Donald Trump? Serious question.

I agree with your characterization of NN. Definitely no accountability there.

1 Go_Spurs_Go 2017-09-28

Accurate, perhaps overly critical. Maggie Haberman (sp?) seems to have a connection with Trump where he enjoys talking with her. You could characterize their coverage as excessively negative, but I’d contend the adversarial nature of the president kind of makes that a self perpetuating cycle, and his disregard for convention is in itself newsworthy. They helped break the Don Jr. email story. I’m not sure if the 17 intelligence agencies vs 4 agencies and the head of intelligence snafu fell on them, but they did report it that way, and deserve some editorial shaming for not catching that distinction. If there’s anything else they’ve gotten objectively wrong I can’t think of it or find it right now with a quick google search.

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

One final comment. Brad Pitt recently endured a divorce from Angelina Jolie. There were leaks to media that Mr. Pitt was not a perfect father.

Shortly after that happened, there were leaks that Ms. Jolie is involved with the Illuminati, and an infamous home video where she made pertinent comments was posted.

Suddenly, all disparaging leaks about Mr. Pitt's credentials as a father immediately ceased.

And the divorce was concluded. Like most divorces, its terms remain private.

The home video of Ms. Jolie is unarguably her. She makes the statements that she makes.

Is it possible that the NeonNettle article is fake? Certainly. Is it equally possible that it is correct? Again, yes.

I have no respect for anyone who relies on Snopes to tell them what to believe. This is clearly a case where anyone who actually cares about the issue should indeed do their own research.

So I did my research. I concluded what I wrote.

Thanks for reading, and thanks for commenting.

1 redblaze17 2017-09-28

Wow, you just admit the article could be fake and you are trying to pass off as fact.

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

Not at all.

I pulled the two sections, on RDJ and BP. They were weakly sourced, and they did not stand up to scrutiny.

I added an editorial comment at the end of the piece.

Thanks.

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

I updated the original article on my website.

Thank you all for your sharp eyes and your comments.

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

I pulled the sections citing Robert Downey, Jr. and Brad Pitt from the original article, and added an explanation at the bottom of the article.

If you see further problems, please do not hesitate to let me know.

I thank you all for your sharp eyes and for your comments.

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

Pardon me while I put these flames out .... LOL!

1 felixlivesagain 2017-09-28

I worry about Hollywood pedophiles. my neice is 10 and she just got picked up by a Hollywood talent scout and will be flying to California in December for 5 days of auditions for Disney channel and nickelodeon and pepsi and who knows what other bajiollion dollar companies. scary stuff I pray for her.

1 cloudyoutside 2017-09-28

Dude... save her

1 felixlivesagain 2017-09-28

I cannot save her. she is not in my guardianship. nor could I take away her dream of being potentially famous. if I had the opportunity to make it for my music and someone wanted to try and stop me I would run their ass over. my niece is an incredible singer and I hope it takes her places that being an ordinary drone never would. there is not a lot you can do to try to warn people of the dangers of life no matter how hard you might try. a lot of sports are dangerous but if the fear of danger stopped people we would not have the incredible athletes we have in various sports.

1 Rollafatblunt 2017-09-28

Bro have you seen dan Schneider? That guy is a fucking creep. I don't know what you can do since she's your niece, bit of at least warn her parents.

1 felixlivesagain 2017-09-28

I know but not a lot I could or even would do to take away her shot at being rich and famous.

1 ddaniels02 2017-09-28

i think all these cases weigh heavily on the kids parents.. if parents are present and not POS's. I have to believe that bad situations can be avoided. much like the cases of pedophilia in the catholic church, all the "Spotlight" situations involved powerless boys that didn't have a good family unit.

1 felixlivesagain 2017-09-28

I know that is what worries me the most. my sister is aware of p/gate and the like but... she doesn't have the greatest track record for being a responsible person and I fear she could probably be bought. i worry how much pull she will even have once they sign some Hollywood contracts. good game

1 ddaniels02 2017-09-28

internet! and a lots of visits from uncle felix!

1 cloudyoutside 2017-09-28

I understand the pressure you might be feeling from seeming like your insane/ruining your nieces dreams but you should try. It is likely that your niece and her will thank you later, because the truth is coming out and those creeps are going down.

1 felixlivesagain 2017-09-28

I should try to ruin her dreams? you are insane. best I can do is look out for her. if I had the opportunity to get my music in front of Hollywood and get famous bye bye I would be gone in a heartbeat.

1 cloudyoutside 2017-09-28

Yeah you're right. I have a friend doing the same thing as your niece and I wouldn't try to stop him either. Warned him but let him find out on his own and hoped for the best. Tricky situation. Stay up, man.

1 EkmetTeloess 2017-09-28

If I were you I'd do all I can to prevent her from entering that sick industry. Show her family the numerous ex-child stars whose lives have been destroyed. If she's good enough to be picked to audition by Hollywood then something closer to her home shouldn't be difficult to crack, maybe she could explore theatre instead. Regardless, any parent who urges their innocent children to purse something so materialistic and corrupt is not fit for purpose and/or extremely naive. I hope she fails all her auditions.

1 felixlivesagain 2017-09-28

To be a big star in the music industry is unobtainable closer to home. This is her shot. You don't think that maybe if she just had someone to watch over her she might be safe?

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

I will pray for her, too. You are wise to worry. Make sure that you talk to her parents, if possible, and raise their awareness.

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

Exactly correct. This was installment 26 in a long series. I erred with two sources. Out of hundreds.

I should have known that those quotes were too good to be true. But confirmation bias was at play. I wanted them to be true. And they fit the pattern. Too well, as it turned out.

Tomorrow, I post on the Catholic Church and pedophilia.

I am building an edifice. Many pieces. The conclusions are important. It matters that readers can read my work and know that care was taken doing it.

I consider this a learning experience.

1 ma91c1an 2017-09-28

The link is there:

http://www.neon-nettle.com/news/2565-robert-downey-jr-blows-the-whistle-on-elite-hollywood-pedophile-ring

1 felixlivesagain 2017-09-28