Why is anyone anti Russia?

6  2017-09-29 by longhairredlips

Seriously, I want a summary of why we should or shouldn't be anti Russia.

I mean, to me, this is all a game. It's made for tv drama that I don't indulge in. But I'm so very curious about your personal reasons, ready set go.

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oh man i cant wait to read the responses

Why don't you share with us why you support Putin's Russia?

LMFAOOAOAOAOAOAOA

I support Putin because he likes cats.

you see how subtly that meme has been inculcated eh? hahaha

Hi there PLC

I'm flattered

Transparent is the more accurate word. ;

I'm as transparent as the government.

Transparency is a cute euphemism for Trump's loose lips.

Its a word on a screen.

well i've been to russia and have russian friends, and have karelian in me, and normally would think good things of them. but there are concerns.

russia in recent history (ie. the soviet era) has manifested a kind of fucked up ideology in communism (or whatever you want to call it) that's been spawned presumably from some english elite, and it's a complete shit show. the psychology that has manifested from this abortion is right fucked. and they seem to be pushing their pattern on to the world. not the russians exacty, but the people who are pulling the strings, who seem to always be pulling the strings. these are the people who try to build systems of hierarchy. they're not just found in europe, eh. they've historically moved all over the map. those fuckers are perpetuating all the violence and pretty much every other negative bit of shit on the planet. not russians exactly but they're part of it too.

the "bad acts" of russia hasn't been seen for a while. but that doesn't mean the underlying bad control system isn't there. so, caveat emptor.

and afaik the underlying corruption hasn't left.

Soo, in your opinion, is Russia a real power? Or simply being controlled by another power?

Read 1984. Whoever "controls" Russia "controls" the US as well.

I have! But this is why I'm confused, if Russia isn't the real issue, perhaps a victim themselves, why are we anti Russia? I feel like that's the made up drama, they're a decoy, a diversion from the controller.

It is a distraction. The 99% in Russia are in the same boat the 99% in america are in.

Agreed. We're on the same playing field.

they have very real capacity yes. who the overall puppeteer is? an ancient priesthood class.

would you say those people have been kicked out of a lot of countries too?

if you mean the jews i think that's an overly broad label. the truth of things is that being part of a cohort doesn't mean you hold all the views of that cohort. same thing goes for every other group that's held power be they roman, chinese, english, whatever.

i think you're dealing with a group that uses hierarchy/heroes as its main pattern. having been caught up in the failures of that they've tried to sell themselves as "equalists" for lack of a better word. the catch? that you need adminstrators. same as it ever was.

i think america was the attempt to get away from this group. i think america, despite all its many problems, is the best design we have and throwing it away is a bad idea. i think an american civil war is a horrible idea. people say the design is masonic - but the link between jews and masons is strong - so there's a counterpoint to the whole it's the jews argument given that they tried to bring about a good thing in america at one point.

my concern right now is that there could be a punch and judy show with russia vs america happening when they're both managed by the same puppeteer. and the reason is to create circumstances for apparent conflict, have actual conflict and try to destroy america. i think defending america is the highest priority. that doesn't mean going along with stupid leadership. it means defending the constitution.

I like the principles of the US Constitution. I agree its something worth defending and promoting, but I am not optimistic about the endeavor.

yeah well.. i enjoy challenges.

Trump is an actor. I pity anyone who thinks he's legitimately as idiotic and racist as he's portrayed. He's reading a script and acting his part.

russia in recent history (ie. the soviet era)

That's not recent history though.

Putin's government is anti-democratic and that government is on a campaign to undermine democratic governments in Europe, in the U.S. and wherever it can globally.

He doesn't seek to replace those democratic governments with communist or socialist style government but an oligarchy like currently exists in Russia where all Russia's wealth is held as "private property,' by a few.

I have given my thoughts on the why is Russia hostile to the U.S. can you provide a reason to support Putin's Russia?

Well the US government is anti democratic so what the fuck is your point?

You can like/love a people and despise their governments, those two are not mutually exclusive.

I despise all governments and love all people.

I love Jewish people, but I want the Israel Zionist Regime to be decimated.

Shh, don't burst his carefully crafted bubble.

That is certainly true about the current all one party U.S. government.

WHATABOUT THE US?

I think Putin is controlled and the current state of Russia is the result. They are not a real power or threat, whomever controls Putin is the real threat. Russia is a victim.

I think the families of all the people he's killed would disagree with you.

Just because Putin killed people doesn't mean he's not being forced to do so πŸ‘πŸ»

Who is forcing Putin to kill all those journalists, political opponents and lawyers? Please provide proof

Political deaths exist throughout the world. From a pleb perspective, it could simply be seen as infighting or the result of action/response. [might makes right].

No different than "gang violence". If two "gang bangers" kill each other it has absolutely no bearing on the life of whoever yet if you believed they were your politicians and represent "freedom and democracy" suddenly it enrages emotions and feelings in people (outrage).

It really comes down to the terms agreed to and rules of the system. However, there's obviously another set of rules in play than what the common pleb is told what they believe. The real problem is plebs not understanding the rules of engagement.

I think that is a gross misconception.

We likely disagree on other things as well but that's ok! I like civilized debate so please feel free to share your reasoning!

I think that is what I did in my original comment.

I was asking specifically about why you feel my comment was a "gross misconception".....

I think Putin is controlled and the current state of Russia is the result. They are not a real power or threat, whomever controls Putin is the real threat. Russia is a victim.

You are saying that about the former Soviet KGB official who managed to get himself a third term is being controlled. I don't see anything in his biography to suggest that and it would seem he has the power and means to keep control of the people around him, for now.

https://www.biography.com/people/vladimir-putin-9448807#!

Putin is the only world power, except for Trump and the US recently, not pushing for globalism so that's a plus in my mind. The media will always shine the highest brightness onto crimes the real criminals of the world want you to see, while turning a blind eye to all the evils the actually criminals do.

Russia and America have been Allies in both World Wars. The Cold War and subsequent Arms Race benefited both Countries Economies greatly. Russia and America have mutual enemies and rivals and when stuff starts hitting the fan again Russia and America will be fighting on different front against the same enemy.

Vietnam, The Russian Invasion of Afghanistan, The Cuban Middle Crisis, and Syria is simply jockeying for supremacy by the world's only 2 Super Powers. Although they may squabble between themselves they do not want another power to supplant their main adversary "the devil you know is better than the devil you do not know".

Im pro Russia in the sense of i think we should have good open relations and trade with them. What gain is there in being enemies with them? If the USA and Russia formed an allegiance.. no one could even consider being our enemies.

also considering they lost 20millions people helping to defeat the nazis

Yes. Exactly. I mean the cold war is over. Both us and russia can nuke the world into extinction. There is fight. Its a stalemate. So lets work together.

youre making too much sense

Honestly im a Jew and i know the USA is an ally of Israel but im American above all. I think we should deescalate and form some relationship with iran too. Im sick of policing the fucking world. Iran has carpets older than our nation. Maybe lets allow them to decide whats best for them.

yeah, the world should be figurin out how to coexist instead of forcing one set of ideals on everyone else

Well.. we have enough problems here at home. Lets fix healthcare and infrastructure b4 world policing every fucking thing. If kimmy dung shoots a rocket.. we can shoot it down. We know. They know it. So this rhetoric is wasteful. Ignore him.

oh trust me i couldnt care less about the norh korea stuff. they arent gonna do shit. one wrong move and kim jon un loses his kingdom. so what is the point

fix health care Watched a local show yesterday with community leaders saying one in four children have mental problems, and that is a very low number. There are people that want almost everyone addicted to medication, and monitored by militarized, unqualified, minimally paid workers. I believe this is the biggest lie, and is destroying the future of millions.

Yes. Big pharma has no desire to β€œcure” anything. They wanna control it so you need a script or a shot. There is no money in cures.

It was sad to hear this junk coming from locals. I hope there are people out there with empathy, that want to help people, instead of ruin and rob them.

Iran has carpets older than our nation. Maybe lets allow them to decide whats best for them.

i'd buy you a beer if i had any money. cheers!

Cheers 🍺. Have a great weekend.

Pigtails and beer and well... breasticles. Thats the Triple Crown.

Agree

People believe what they see on their telescreens is real.

U.S. propaganda. That's why.

people are forced to think on a global scale now more than they ever have. and most people don't have the time or interest to actually learn about other countries. not to mention that our country has demonized our enemies in the media, sensationalizing war and rival countries to create a nationalistic mass population that's always scared of the boogeyman.

russians shouldnt be anti-russian, and everybody else should stick to their own corresponding nation. if you are british be british etc.. end of story.

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Watch that entire thing. Listen to Bill Browder's testimony.

Afterwards, if you still don't understand why you should be anti-Russia, and want to discuss, I'm happy to do so.

I love Jewish people, but I want the Israel Zionist Regime to be decimated.

I like the principles of the US Constitution. I agree its something worth defending and promoting, but I am not optimistic about the endeavor.

Trump is an actor. I pity anyone who thinks he's legitimately as idiotic and racist as he's portrayed. He's reading a script and acting his part.

Just because Putin killed people doesn't mean he's not being forced to do so πŸ‘πŸ»

Political deaths exist throughout the world. From a pleb perspective, it could simply be seen as infighting or the result of action/response. [might makes right].

No different than "gang violence". If two "gang bangers" kill each other it has absolutely no bearing on the life of whoever yet if you believed they were your politicians and represent "freedom and democracy" suddenly it enrages emotions and feelings in people (outrage).

It really comes down to the terms agreed to and rules of the system. However, there's obviously another set of rules in play than what the common pleb is told what they believe. The real problem is plebs not understanding the rules of engagement.