We should stop paying taxes because we have no representation. Look at Puerto Rico and Flint. Guam pays taxes but can't vote. This is why our country was founded.
249 2017-10-01 by showmeurboobsplznthx
All our money goes to corporations, the military, and the Federal reserve. Our representatives don't even write the legislation and do not listen to us, the FCC and net neutrality are a good example. Puerto Rico pays so much in taxes yet can't even get military help. Hundreds of communities have polluted water. Our president mocks us and wastes money golfing and travelling in luxury while allowing the bottom 80% foot all the bills for the top 5%. We build the NFL stadiums only a microfraction of citizens get to use. We can't even get 20% of our taxes to pay for our health. Its time to take the power back.
101 comments
1 blitzblazin 2017-10-01
Lol got to love trolls
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-10-01
Not a troll. Money is power
1 AnAccountOfMyOwn 2017-10-01
I was thinking a shill aiming to make certain groups look dumber.
1 Ideaem 2017-10-01
The system wants to truly benefit anyone but themselves. It's all about money, not about human rights, societal/technological advancement or anything like that. No ones actively working on the solution to world peace. They profit too much from war.
You're right though, if enough people stop paying their taxes, their funding would be cut but they'd turn the rest of society against them with media spin. Hopefully it'd be enough to halt it, but that'd be anarchy. It's a tough situation. Too many corrupted people in power that have forced us to rely on them, we're in pretty deep but I believe we can come up with a peaceful solution.
1 chiup 2017-10-01
How does one not pay taxes and also avoid jail? I'd love to know your secret.
1 Zenyx_ 2017-10-01
If enough people do not pay taxes, they can't arrest everyone can they? US prisons cannot hold, let's say, 10 million more than currently. A lot of people would walk because of this, or have their trial delayed.
1 chiup 2017-10-01
Yes, they can jail us all: if need be, FEMA camps can pop-up within days to handle the disodence. They have ways to avoid having trials.
1 anunknind 2017-10-01
And you can purchase a gun in mere minutes. And so can everyone around you. And most people around you already have guns. And you are free and no FEMA camp shall enslave us before you wise up and defend your freedom and the freedom of your neighbor.
1 Kind_Of_A_Dick 2017-10-01
Yeah, that's not likely to work and will just get a lot of people hurt or killed.
1 krazeesheet 2017-10-01
Every so often, the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots.
1 Kind_Of_A_Dick 2017-10-01
Which side would be the patriots? The ones refusing to pay taxes and taking up arms against a government they feel does not represent them, or the people charged with the defense of their nation from all threats foreign and domestic who are going to be called in once violence begins?
By the way, the full quote you used also mentioned the blood of tyrants. It's not just patriots, but tyrants too.
1 asailorssway 2017-10-01
If the govt no longer represents the people, and has been corrupted, ahem, it is actually your duty to take it back.
The military, which while never being intended to be a standing army is, and is seemingly filled with mk-ultra'd cro-mags. THEY took an oath to protect US, but their checks are written by THEM. Who do think they are going to choose?
Ftr, i took a vow of poverty years ago, i stopped filing taxes four years ago.
Now, bc i am in the poverty bracket, and if anything i would get money back, idk if this will bite me in the ass, but it shouldnt, ethically. I dont take any govt monies, i wont give them any to involve me in their schemes. The majority of the wealth goes to help Israel, the Rothschilds and the Queen, in however convulated a way possible. All set with that.
1 3PcDrtyRice 2017-10-01
With that attitude yeah..an that is how they designed it. For people to think there is nothing we can do. An it saddens me that people are willing to use the little freedoms we have but not willing to fight to keep them or restore the ones we should.
1 jasenlee 2017-10-01
That's why dreams are free.
1 AWokenBeetle 2017-10-01
You should watch this
http://managainstthestate.blogspot.com/2011/08/tiny-dot-by-larken-rose.html?m=1
And read this
http://www.freeyourmindaz.com/uploads/1/2/8/3/12830241/the-most-dangerous-superstition-larken-rose-2011.pdf
1 techie762 2017-10-01
said it before, say it again, everyones a criminal including the cops and government.
lock up everyone living in the USA 2017, install automated turrets that can only be controlled remotely inside the cell, that way the other inmates can shoot the guards if they refuse to pay for their crimes like everyone else.
I Want to see not a single person left free, even the cooks in the prison. nobody will have food either.
oprah's voice life in prison for everyone!!!! YOU get life in jail, YOU get life in jail... LIFE IN JAIL FOR EVERYONE!!!
1 INTELDracula 2017-10-01
People have families. It's just not worth the risk of going to prison.
1 bug_ridden_prototype 2017-10-01
People who don't pay their taxes generally don't get arrested at all. People who willfully evade the tax law can be charged with a felony, but it hardly ever happens. They just get fined instead, set up a payment plan or whatever, and go on about their lives.
1 Todos1881 2017-10-01
I have been saying this. The problem is many of us have our taxes taken out before we get a paycheck.
1 Zenyx_ 2017-10-01
You literally have the option to not have tax taken out of your paychecks.
1 Nerdherd99 2017-10-01
They will just have to liquidate some high crimes and change laws of dissent of the IRS is penalty of death by discretion of the agent working on the case
1 gjones33 2017-10-01
Live 13.2 miles off the coastal us in a boat
1 Jeremiahhwasa 2017-10-01
Trusts, The IRS is only an interpretation of the law https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUyWmmWtcFM
1 spiff531 2017-10-01
Stop requiring income:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6p6nl3/the_kernel_of_all_conspiracies_is_control_of_the/dknavzp/?context=3
1 ignorethislunatic 2017-10-01
Don't fuck with the IRS. It didn't end well for Bill Cooper.
1 LightBringerFlex 2017-10-01
They use fear to control you. If enough people diss the IRS, which is a private corporation working for the Rothschilds, they will never be able to punish an entire nation.
1 techie762 2017-10-01
lol it would be so wondrous if universally nobody paid any taxes at all lmao.
1 Raptisoft 2017-10-01
Introduce a bug into accounting software that does automatic withholding. Reduce the amount withheld by a mere 10% or something.
At the end of the year, the government will come after everyone for a couple thousand dollars out of pocket. I guarantee you you will get the tax uprising you want.
1 Hamsterarcher 2017-10-01
They cant punish you if you refuse to conform to maritime laws whilst on land.
Another good way to spread awareness is a hashtag, we all either work for the USA Corporation or the UK Crown Corp. Were employees who receive employee benefits in return, So #whenspayday?
1 Romek_himself 2017-10-01
because hes one - they cant jail millions when the prisons are paid from tax money anyway
1 Novusod 2017-10-01
They killed Bill Cooper because he knew too much. It wasn't about taxes.
1 Suitcase_Johnson 2017-10-01
Its going to take a lot more than not paying taxes to stop this. Google bookchin.
1 asailorssway 2017-10-01
Searx.me, for those who dislike google.
1 bug_ridden_prototype 2017-10-01
"I don't always get my way, therefore my representatives don't listen to me."
Representative democracy means you don't always get what you want.
1 INTELDracula 2017-10-01
What is up with this sub today. Shit like this is being upvoted.
1 AWokenBeetle 2017-10-01
"People Will Be Made To Love Their Servitude"
https://pulsemedia.org/2009/02/02/aldous-huxley-the-ultimate-revolution/
Collectivist State Propaganda has hit a large number of the populace that serving the interest of power is good for them and they as free people are to ignorant to be able to rule themselves as individuals and instead that they NEED a ruling class to tell them how to live their lives and what to think, feel, and believe.
1 3PcDrtyRice 2017-10-01
http://www.upworthy.com/20-years-of-data-reveals-that-congress-doesnt-care-what-you-think
Very few regular citizens get what they want. Our government does not care about us as people. Just as slaves to pay their salaries.
1 LightBringerFlex 2017-10-01
Stop paying taxes. Stop paying debts. Also, 15% of America smokes weed and should do it publicly thereby legalizing weed as a people.
1 karmanopoly 2017-10-01
Start using bitcoin
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-10-01
I've been thinking that's an easy way to bankrupt corruption of taxes
1 bug_ridden_prototype 2017-10-01
There is nothing easy about bitcoins.
1 kalestew 2017-10-01
What do you mean? Bitcoin is rather simple.
1 bug_ridden_prototype 2017-10-01
Sure, just start by buying a new computer and filling all the ports with glue and then—
Wait, where you going?
1 kalestew 2017-10-01
Why glue ports? This makes no sense, where are you going?
1 jasenlee 2017-10-01
No... no it is not simple. If I tried to explain to my father how to use Bitcoins it would take weeks.
I spent 4 hours trying to teach him how to use his home WiFi and Netflix. Seriously... 4 fucking hours and he isn't that old.
That is 75% of the country. Now try explaining the mechanics of Bitcoin and then how to use it to the same person. They'll give up after 10 minutes.
1 fuckingshitman11 2017-10-01
That's not 75 percent. Most people can type an address into a wallet. And there are services like bitpay and coinbase which help newbs for a price. Also there is a byteball which offers a ledger which allows payments to be cancelled.
It's true that there needs to be some more innovation but that doesnt mean we just go "hurr durr retards cant use bitcoin so we should all just give our money to da banks xdDddd."
1 kalestew 2017-10-01
This.
Except for the byteball crap. Don’t bother.
1 chappaquiditch 2017-10-01
Whatever the long term merits of bitcoin, the average person shouldn't touch it. Way too much volatility
1 fuckingshitman11 2017-10-01
There is Tether (https://tether.to/) which pairs crypto currency to the dollar and soon there will be crypto which is tethered to gold. But anyway youre wrong also because it's possible to have small amounts of bitcoin to pay for random stuff and that is way easier to use than paypal, credit cards or western union. Not everyone lives in the USA either.
In the mean time there is https://www.goldmoney.com/ which is an organization which keeps a gold account for you in fort knox and allows you to spend your gold like a debit card. Blockchain technology is still better though but I agree that volatility is not a good thing for regular people although it's a lot of fun to day trade.
1 Novusod 2017-10-01
Considering you can make more money from bitcoin than working a full time job for a year it is worth the time investment to learn it. Welcome to the psudo economy.
1 mybluejeans 2017-10-01
I can hear echoes of 1928 in this ... not that smart people like yourself probably haven’t learned how to protect yourself from a repeat :)
1 kalestew 2017-10-01
You clearly don’t know much about crypto economics or why Bitcoin has value in the first place. Call tulip mania all you want.
1 KingDas 2017-10-01
Any videos related to this topic? I only make 26k a year, so shouldn't be hard lol
1 Novusod 2017-10-01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7V2N2VYBcA
1 kalestew 2017-10-01
Pseudo economics is not really what anyone familiar with crypto would call bitcoin.
1 kalestew 2017-10-01
Well the thing is, I don’t think anyone here knows the intricacies of how ACH or SWIFT work; I am sure everyone with a bank account had used these services however.
Your dad doesn’t have to know about mining and the crypto economics - if he is unable to send someone money using a contact list and a number pad, maybe he should consider having someone else manage his money.
Bitcoin is incredibly easy to use as money. You want to build a business around it, well then you might want to learn how it works.
1 shreveportfixit 2017-10-01
You don't need to know how it works to use it. 99.9% of people have no idea how Facebook or Instagram work, they still use them daily.
1 fucky_samsquancher 2017-10-01
Do you realize Puerto Rico pays no income tax?
1 gjones33 2017-10-01
They also run up massive government spending debts from out tax money which per capita are way out of proportion to what even Continental us spends.
Good try tho
1 WisperingPenis 2017-10-01
If you do not pay taxes, they will take your home. If you resist, they will throw you in jail and you will lose your job and your friends etc.
If everyone did not pay taxes, your plan would work, but you cannot convince most people to try it.
1 3PcDrtyRice 2017-10-01
I understand job an home, buit if your "friends" bail becasue you said fuck the illegal tax system in America then fuck them they are traitors to humanity as well.
1 WisperingPenis 2017-10-01
Once you become a criminal, and then an ex-con, you will find out that many of your "friends" are not friends. Even your family may disown you.
1 3PcDrtyRice 2017-10-01
LMAO. Your friends and family suck. I sadly have friends in prison who are still my friends and I write them weekly. Their family has not disowned them nor has their true friend base. I also have other friends who have gone and come home from prison an they still have friends and family. So why do you think your statement is true?
1 WisperingPenis 2017-10-01
Just my experience. You have better friends and family than me.
1 Romek_himself 2017-10-01
when everyone stop paying taxes they run out of room very fast. and have no money to pay for this prisons because they are paid with tax money.
1 WisperingPenis 2017-10-01
It is not "when". It is "if". Therein, lies the problem.
1 spiff531 2017-10-01
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/73ihxa/we_should_stop_paying_taxes_because_we_have_no/dnr4wel/
1 HorsefuckPRIME 2017-10-01
Source?
You mean civilian help because they closed travel on account of how much military help is going there?
You have to go back :)
Your sales tax doesn't pay for shit, you really need to look at where the government gets their money, and that's a deeply loaded sentence on this board.
This is related because...? Regardless, I'm glad you agree that they owe so much to this country and should stand to respect the flag.
To force private citizens to the whims of society is how that sentence ends. It's less fun when it's your freedom being taken away for someone else's benefit.
In summation: lol have fun getting scarfaced, go ahead and skip paying your taxes. You're no countrymen of mine.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-10-01
Its called sunsidization and the biggest richest get the majority of it. You are living in the "believe what we say, not what we do."
1 HorsefuckPRIME 2017-10-01
And you're dumb as a brick to boot. If you'd like to reply to me, do me the kindness of actually telling me which part you're cherry picking, or respond to the whole. You do an amazing job of proving a stereotype, but maybe I'm wrong. I might need vital life altering information from a dude called 'showmeurboobsplznthx'. I bet you act shocked when people treat you like you've got a mental disability.
1 yourepenis 2017-10-01
I dont think someone named horsefuckprime has any say on another names validity.
1 PoopdickMcThroatFuck 2017-10-01
And yourepenis does?
1 yourepenis 2017-10-01
Lmfao why do all of our names get more and more ridiculous
1 HeresAnIdeaGFckYrslf 2017-10-01
Over 3 billion and no right to vote.
No it doesn't.
Whose freedom is being taken away for someone else's benefit?
1 hey-there-delilah 2017-10-01
Did you know that there is no federal income tax in puerto rico
1 Oftowerbroleaning 2017-10-01
Puerto Rico has recieved tons of fucking help you fucking retard. The US has 10,000 people on the ground from all different agencies. That's more than Florida and Texas got combined.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-10-01
You must of never been to a place where America under budgets the initial construction then bitches when it's not billionaire quality. You do not understand class division in infrastructure.... And you're believing lies that the wealthy spread about the lazy poor. The rich can buy the means to put the poor to work and call it community development but bc of austerity, the people can't do this. You have no idea about the actual world and live in a fantasy of being able to exploit in times of need. They are Americans like flint Michigan but are fucked bc the people who exploit won't help when a crisis v happens. The wealthy took too much during development that the base necessities were done subpar so now everyone is fucked, even the rich. The rich will stay clear till the poor do all the work, then slow back up and act like they are responsible for everything. Fuck you you lazy piece of shit surviving off everyone with a high head even though you're retarded and lazy just have the backing of money and a psychosis that makes you unable to realize how useless and incompetent you are. I challenge you to a task, any task, that we each have to completely do and I'll laugh when you fail and try to buy Success bc you're worthless without community. You're the biggest problem in our world. Bring it You piece of shit. Youre the bottom of the bottom and if love to prove this to you but you'll be a little bitch until everyone does the work and you can claim it. You're trash and incompetent.
1 Oftowerbroleaning 2017-10-01
Fucking fuck off dude. My community just endured Harvey and we're not receiving nearly any fucking help. Every day for a month our neighbors have been going into each others houses and tearing out all the drywall, carpet, furniture, power washing the foundation, hanging new dry wall, etc. Some of my neighbors lost everything. The only help we've seen from the government is the county sending a massive garbage truck to pick up everything we have to drag in front of our houses. We've seen a lot of help from the local churches. You went on a totally irrelevant ramble that has nothing to do with what I fucking said and lectured me about not understanding class division.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-10-01
Yea but you have electricity water and cleared roads. The destruction isn't the same.
1 Oftowerbroleaning 2017-10-01
We had none of those things for weeks. We were all displaced. You have no clue what you are talking about.
1 Oftowerbroleaning 2017-10-01
As a matter of fact we still don't have clean water. Just got it tested yesterday. Has e coli in it.
1 Oftowerbroleaning 2017-10-01
And we cleared the roads ourselves. We didn't wait on the fucking government or they still wouldn't be cleared.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-10-01
I have family there and its not the same bc you have walls and roofs still. You habe the port of Houston and you don't have to pointlessly send all your goods 300 miles then have it sent back
1 Oftowerbroleaning 2017-10-01
Dude fuck you. IM FUCKING HERE. dont give me this "my dad's a doctor" bullshit. Dumb fuck
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-10-01
Waa waa
1 Oftowerbroleaning 2017-10-01
And it's boiled down to that. Fucking kek.
1 brettyrocks 2017-10-01
So, stop paying income tax. Just tell your employer that you want them to stop deducting your estimated tax liability per paycheck. See how well that works out.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-10-01
If a real leader took office and offset it, we could all control our taxes. If you had 80 % control how your taxes were spent, that's capitalistic democracy. We don't have control so corporations Rule.
1 boxingnun 2017-10-01
I've been kicking around the idea for a couple of years now of a system where a tax-payer gets a say in where a percentage of their taxes are spent. It is debatable on what that percentage should be as the day-to-day operation of the government would have to be taken into account. But imagine how much more control over our government we would have if we could dictate how our tax dollars are spent (directly)! Don't want war? Then allocate your tax dollars to health care or education. The real difficulty in this is that we must educate (as opposed to our current system which indoctrinates) thoroughly on finance and government operation so that citizens can make informed decisions and be able to separate fact from manipulation. Easier said than done. ;)
1 permbanpermban 2017-10-01
Start up a business. Work for yourself. Only accept cash.
1 erietemperance 2017-10-01
As much as I agree with your sentiment.
Please stop using "Flint" as a metric for your positions when you don't know a fucking thing about it.
If you did you wouldn't have used it for this.
1 showmeurboobsplznthx 2017-10-01
Highland park Dallas has 1/16 the houses of flint yet get 182 times the money per household. Places in Utah are triple. They get 4 times the funding with 1/9th the population of Texas per county.... Is divisionalay unfair. Nazi Germany did the same for mix neighborhoods. America following the same divisional math as nazi Germany is not good....
1 ASkyWithoutEagles 2017-10-01
All of you will continue to pay taxes SO... let's talk about what you could do.
Take your money out of the banks. Or at least most of it. Use cash, gold and silver, goldmoney.com.
Stop buying shit you don't need. Starve the corporate giants like Walmart and apple. Buy local. Buy used. You don't need that new X
Grow your own food. Get away from this toxic garbage and go organic. Even if it's only a small amount; every little bit counts.
Go outside and exercise. It's good for the mind and body. Get away from this negativity. Turn off your tv and don't mindlessly consume this inane media.
Try yoga and meditation. It'll change your life.
Love conquers all.
1 spiff531 2017-10-01
Take money out of banks.
All banks. And governments.
All
instructions -> https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6p6nl3/the_kernel_of_all_conspiracies_is_control_of_the/dknavzp/?context=3
1 ScofieldM 2017-10-01
Puerto Rico gets billions from US, not the other way around.
Also not a conspiracy
1 spiff531 2017-10-01
Follow my rabbit hole: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6p6nl3/the_kernel_of_all_conspiracies_is_control_of_the/dknavzp/?context=3
1 cfrey 2017-10-01
"Democracy" in the USA died the instant they gave corporations person-hood. Now the ONLY entities represented by the government YOU pay for are the corporations.We have seen that they will not give up any of that power voluntarily, or peacefully.
1 dncisapsyop 2017-10-01
Puerto Rico is getting lots of military help. One of the first things Trump did was send money to Flint.
NN is horrible and needs to be repealed. Do you really want the government to have total control of the internet?
This reads like a CNN article dude.
1 1_point_1_day_ago 2017-10-01
Lol, do you actually think the telecom corps are "neutral"?
Lol nice 1 month acct bro
1 yelloamerikan 2017-10-01
Like everything else, Bitcoin will end up in the hands of a select few and we start the cycle all over again. Humankind has attempted and failed throughout its history to solve this simple problem. Every form of government ever tried has failed! Name ONE form of government which has achieved equality for all! It always ends up with the peasants surrounding the Kings castle with pitch forks and torches.
1 MrJDouble 2017-10-01
Taxation is theft regardless, but Taxation without representation certainly isn't cool.
1 Zenyx_ 2017-10-01
If enough people do not pay taxes, they can't arrest everyone can they? US prisons cannot hold, let's say, 10 million more than currently. A lot of people would walk because of this, or have their trial delayed.
1 Kind_Of_A_Dick 2017-10-01
Yeah, that's not likely to work and will just get a lot of people hurt or killed.
1 gjones33 2017-10-01
Live 13.2 miles off the coastal us in a boat
1 Jeremiahhwasa 2017-10-01
Trusts, The IRS is only an interpretation of the law https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUyWmmWtcFM
1 techie762 2017-10-01
lol it would be so wondrous if universally nobody paid any taxes at all lmao.
1 jasenlee 2017-10-01
That's why dreams are free.
1 Hamsterarcher 2017-10-01
They cant punish you if you refuse to conform to maritime laws whilst on land.
Another good way to spread awareness is a hashtag, we all either work for the USA Corporation or the UK Crown Corp. Were employees who receive employee benefits in return, So #whenspayday?
1 spiff531 2017-10-01
Stop requiring income:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/6p6nl3/the_kernel_of_all_conspiracies_is_control_of_the/dknavzp/?context=3