Who started "fake news"?

18  2017-10-04 by Fluxcapaciti

Seems like the new "conspiracy theorist." Very weird that such a previously unheard of phrase would become a mainstream political buzzword overnight. Trump is well known for using the term now, but does anyone remember when it started? I think I remember Hillary hit pieces first being called fake news, but I can't find the genesis of this term

26 comments

1  raygun_cisnut 2017-10-04

satan

1  Rayfloyd 2017-10-04

It was the mainstream media when the batch of Podesta emails pertaining to pizzagate dropped that the term started surfacing

1  stinkstick17 2017-10-04

I disagree, the first time I heard the term it came out of Trump’s mouth.

1  7Seraphim7 2017-10-04

False, either you're shilling on purpose or accident. Any google search or a small amount of research will show that it was coined immediately after pizzagate. It blew up after Podesta took that editorial job too.

Anyone who has been watching everything that happened after the election knows full well how and why that term started.

1  stinkstick17 2017-10-04

The first time “I” heard it.

I answered the question honestly.

Why are you getting so defensive? I have heard him use the term at least a hundred times since he was elected.

1  Shillin4Shekels 2017-10-04

Then you shouldn't disagree, because you don't have enough information to disagree. You would be fine if you only said "The first time I heard the term it came out of Trump's mouth," because that could be true, but it certainly doesn't mean that is where the term originated.

1  stinkstick17 2017-10-04

Hang on now you are getting defensive, is the term “fake news” derogatory coming from the person who says it?

Who gives a shit where it came from, I thought the first time I heard it Trump said it, and like I said he has used the term at least a hundred times on tv, what’s the problem?

1  Shillin4Shekels 2017-10-04

How am I being defensive? lol

I'm just telling you how its silly to disagree when you have no idea and your only piece of evidence is when you first heard the term. We're just telling you that you're wrong to disagree. Its no big deal, though, don't get defensive.

1  wutangslanger 2017-10-04

The problem is you are not informed at all, and you're using false information to feel even more comfortable with your given agenda. It's the most ignorant firm of confirmation bias.

1  Shillin4Shekels 2017-10-04

You're objectively wrong, though. Trump co-opted the phrase. The first mentions of "Fake News" were in the mainstream media.

1  AspiringOligarch 2017-10-04

This is the correct answer.

But the truth is that the news has always been fake.

Infotainment propaganda and distractions.

1  Langston_huge 2017-10-04

Except it isn't the correct answer.

1  Shillin4Shekels 2017-10-04

Yup. If you look at google trends, both terms (and Spirit Cooking) rose from nothing at virtually the same time.

1  TibetanSkyFuneral 2017-10-04

November 9th the msm hit "Fake News" and "Russia" by the evening news. November 10th it was leaking into boards everywhere as one of the crutches of the Hillary loss.

1  kylenigga 2017-10-04

Thats when I saw it pop up

1  VVAR_Aarius 2017-10-04

This. The term fake news exploded on every MSM channel as a counter pizza gate media blitz. The level of coordination between channels was Erie.

1  SiriusDogon 2017-10-04

http://nomorefakenews.com

Jon Rappoport’s website has used the term since 2001, the fake MSM borrowed it from him.

1  Vinda1243 2017-10-04

Fox, CNN, Breitbart, Infowars

1  Snot_that_simple 2017-10-04

Wapo, nytimes

1  wildfireonvenus 2017-10-04

It started before the birth of Jesus.

1  Vinda1243 2017-10-04

Makes sense since Jesus is fake news

1  Bankster- 2017-10-04

First time I heard it was from left wing hacks. Then. Hillary Clinton. Then Obama. Then Trump hacks.

1  BillyDozer 2017-10-04

Mainstream media spawned from a sea of propoganda and misinformation in the first place during the ww2 era.

1  thatshowitlookslike 2017-10-04

created this thread few hours before: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/745pho/reminder_terms_conspiracy_theorist_fake_news/

1  Enok-Stroth 2017-10-04

The MSM created the term Fake News intentionally to inject it into the public's conscious. It may seem it backed fired on the MSM but with the mass censoring of Social Media after its injection I think it has served its purpose.

Now it's in the public eye everyone will be looking to see what is "fake news" MSM gets to slam alternative news as fake news, alternative media gets to slam MSM as fake news.

Some of the alternative media is or has already been coopt by the legacy media. We are in the age of falsehoods. Where one person can't reasonable be able to ascertain the details of any situation. Our reality is being shaped so we won't know truth. Even if truth smacked us in the face.

1  bianceziwo 2017-10-04

Facebook first used it to describe ridiculous news stories that were populat on facebook coming from eastern europe. After that it was coopted by the right

1  UncontactedPeoples 2017-10-04

My recollection is that it began with the MSM (CNN and/or MSNBC IIRC), and that it was used to describe the Pizzagate story.

Then, it was used against them by Donald Trump and/or his supporters.

After that, MSM tried to discredit the term.

1  docmlz 2017-10-04

Norm MacDonald.

1  MMPRDCR 2017-10-04

Probably Pedesta and the Democrats. Then Obama started saying it along with ALL the mainstream news.

So, definitely a preplanned coordinated thing at the exact same time Pizzagate hit so...

1  aulawabbel 2017-10-04

DS schmucks. Obama introduced it at the Frontiers Conference on October 13, 2016, the seventh day of the Podesta email leaks. This is where he talked about a "wild west of information" and needing to curate information for people.

1  43rdGoonie 2017-10-04

Doesn't really matter. If you use this term, you're a fucking idiot.