Mueller is investigating the Steele Dossier. Do you think the Trump pee tape exists?
3 2017-10-05 by Pineapple__Jews
I was taken aback originally by how weirdly specific the Trump/hooker/pee/Obama story is. Do you feel the specificity gives it more credibility or less?
Edit: Why does Trump-anything always get downvoted here?
29 comments
1 Pancho_Lefty 2017-10-05
No. If it did, it'd be on a 24/7 loop in CNN.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-05
Well the idea is that it is being used as blackmail. Hence the reason Trump refuses to say anything negative about Putin and why he reportedly had a meltdown when Congress sent him the Russian sanctions bill to sign.
1 Zarathasstra 2017-10-05
If it was real he wouldn't be President. It was paid for by the DNC and establishment GOP in collusion with Russia.
Mueller and the Republican led investigation won't indict republicans.
1 ZiggyAdventures 2017-10-05
It was actually paid and contracted by the NeverTrumpers decision of the GOP. There's no evidence of any DNC involvement yet but we'll see.
1 Zarathasstra 2017-10-05
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_GPS
1 ZiggyAdventures 2017-10-05
DNC is an organization, democratic supporters does not mean DNC. just like NeverTrumpers or Republican supporters does not mean RNC, also an organization.
1 LongSaggyBalls 2017-10-05
Pretty sure Manafort is a republcian.
1 Zarathasstra 2017-10-05
Then why was he working with the Podesta group to incite civil war in Ukraine on behalf of Russia who was also paying Clinton at the time?
1 LongSaggyBalls 2017-10-05
You got a source for this stuff?
1 Zarathasstra 2017-10-05
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/paul-manafort-lobbying-ukraine-podesta-group-237163
Why the hell would the Podesta group work for a Republican and Russia?
1 LongSaggyBalls 2017-10-05
I don't really give a shit about podesta. He was probably trying to make some money just like all of them are. You can lock him away with Manafort if you want to. But Manafort is a republcian. Unless you think Trumonis so fucking stupid that he would pick a democrat in cahoots with Podesta to run his campaign.
1 Zarathasstra 2017-10-05
If it was real he wouldn't be President. It was paid for by the DNC and establishment GOP in collusion with Russia.
Mueller and the Republican led investigation won't indict republicans.
1 Zarathasstra 2017-10-05
If it was real he wouldn't be President. It was paid for by the DNC and establishment GOP in collusion with Russia.
Mueller and the Republican led investigation won't indict republicans.
1 tedsmitts 2017-10-05
Will we ever see it? Probably not. Would I be surprised if it was real? No.
1 paulie_purr 2017-10-05
This is good whether he finds anything of substance or not-- wouldn't mind learning who made it up if it's all a fabrication.
1 Ninjakick666 2017-10-05
Well if it does exist as described in the "dossier" then it is actually pretty tame cause Trump would just be sitting there watching the weirdness... not participating in it.
1 LongSaggyBalls 2017-10-05
Sitting in a room watching people pee on each other is tame for you?
1 mozziestix 2017-10-05
I'm actually doing it right now.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-05
Do they clean it up or do you?
1 mozziestix 2017-10-05
That would be me.
1 dragnar1212 2017-10-05
its just a fetish.
Like where people act out rape or are obsessed whit feet.
What is wrong about it.
Every one has there own fetish
1 Loffler 2017-10-05
I don't think so. But if it does exist, I imagine he was tricked into it. It's plausible that they told him he was filming a scene for his oligarch buddy's music video, and they told him to sit there and watch. It's also possible that they said "oh we have a special surprise for you, a gift from Putin himself!" Then they put him in the room with hidden cameras, and he just sits there because he doesn't want to offend anyone. A lot of people forget that the dossier only said that he watched the golden showers. It never claimed that he peed on anyone or that anyone peed on him.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-05
Well I imagine his reactions would vary drastically depending on whether he paid for hookers to pee on a bed, or if it caught him surprise. If there is audio it should be pretty clear which was which.
1 Loffler 2017-10-05
Oh yeah, I don't think that he paid for the prostitutes (assuming the story is true, which I'm doubtful). Putting him into that situation and filming him under false pretenses or without his knowledge would be consistent with Kompromat techniques.
1 likes-to-use-italics 2017-10-05
Trump was worried about offending someone?
1 Loffler 2017-10-05
In this case, that "someone" would be Vladimir Putin. One of the only people that he's never said a bad word about
1 likes-to-use-italics 2017-10-05
I think it's too oddly specific not to be true. It's one of the tamer things in the dossier, unless they're underage and/or No longer alive.
Oh, the Trump fanboys downvote anything negative about their god emperor.
1 M_A_G_A_ 2017-10-05
Alinsky’s rules for radicals. 1."Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have." Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. "Have-Nots" must build power from flesh and blood. "Never go outside the expertise of your people." It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy." Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules." If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. "A good tactic is one your people enjoy." They'll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They're doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag." Don't become old news. "Keep the pressure on. Never let up." Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself." Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition." It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign. "If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive." Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative." Never let the enemy score points because you're caught without a solution to the problem. "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions
1 terminalyo 2017-10-05
The specificity gives it a lot of credibility for me, yeah. It seems "in character", given what we know both about the Russians (who are in the habit of trying to get Kompramat on visiting important people) and Trump (who visited Russia, is clueless, is vindictive, hates Obama, and is very willing to cheat on his wife). If it's made up, it was made up by someone who understands Trump's psychology very well.
1 ZiggyAdventures 2017-10-05
DNC is an organization, democratic supporters does not mean DNC. just like NeverTrumpers or Republican supporters does not mean RNC, also an organization.
1 Pineapple__Jews 2017-10-05
Do they clean it up or do you?
1 M_A_G_A_ 2017-10-05
Alinsky’s rules for radicals. 1."Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have." Power is derived from 2 main sources – money and people. "Have-Nots" must build power from flesh and blood. "Never go outside the expertise of your people." It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy." Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules." If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. "A good tactic is one your people enjoy." They'll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They're doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag." Don't become old news. "Keep the pressure on. Never let up." Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself." Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition." It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign. "If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive." Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative." Never let the enemy score points because you're caught without a solution to the problem. "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions