Have we overlooked something HUGE?
27 2017-10-08 by callmebaiken
Who was the adjoining room registered to?
Australian Brian Hodge said:
He said police told him the gunman was in the room 32135, just one room away from his hotel room. "I'm room 32134 so I'm just so glad I didn't make it back to my room," he said.
We've been assuming this whole time that Paddock rented the adjoining room. This room is where the first shots were fired from! How the hell did Paddock get in this room to break the window and begin firing?! How is Brian Hodge not being interrogated, if the first shots came from his room?!
Or is he mistaken about his room number?
Or is this guy a pathological liar?
Can we crowd source to see if there are any news articles that definitively say whose name room 134, the adjoining room where the window was broken, was under?
Btw: Here's visual confirmation that the adjoining room where shots were fired from and the window broken is 134:
61 comments
1 Some-Sort-of-IxFx 2017-10-08
I believe it was classified somewhere that this guy was actually on the floor before.
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
Below you mean? Are you confusing it with this story?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/vegas-shooting-stephen-paddock-hotel-fireworks-gunshots-man-latest-a7985646.html
1 Some-Sort-of-IxFx 2017-10-08
No but I might be blending two stories together. There was one guy who claimed to be in the room next to the shooter, and then it came to light that a.) He was on a different floor, and b.) He wasn't even in the hotel during the shooting. Trying to find it...
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
This guy was definitely not in the hotel when the firing was happening he was hiding outside the hotel
1 Some-Sort-of-IxFx 2017-10-08
Ugh I don't know. I'm like thisclose to buying a corkboard and red string...
1 batsalad 2017-10-08
my bf keeps saying we need to make a pepe silvia board
1 ToneBox627 2017-10-08
Can I come? I just get looks from mine.
1 litre_cola9 2017-10-08
The woman in the photos that isnt Mariliu https://i.redd.it/8i67ilrv5hqz.jpg She had the cell phone for that random charger in his room. She monitored the baby monitors in an app on her phone and transmitted it. Thats why the conflicting early reports about recording, broadcasting, etc
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
Thanks but how does that relate to my post?
1 litre_cola9 2017-10-08
Because I think this woman or someone had the phone that goes to that second charger they found in Paddock's room. Somebody was monitoring the footage from and adjoining or neqrby room probably. All the people on that floor need to be identified
1 RocketSurgeon22 2017-10-08
Charger was probably for night vision optics or some shit.
1 ImSoFuckinHello 2017-10-08
Those take surefire batteries homie.
1 RocketSurgeon22 2017-10-08
I read somewhere the charger was designed for special batteries. Not sure if they are surefire.
1 ImSoFuckinHello 2017-10-08
Surefire is a brand of flashlight that we were issued in the military. I don't know what voltage their batteries are, but they are a weird size and you can get generic ones that size but they suck. Surefire batteries are what go in your flashlight and nods(night vision) though.
1 RocketSurgeon22 2017-10-08
What brand of flashlight were you issued? Any recommendations?
1 tjswooshmenzada 2017-10-08
Very interesting
1 Some-Sort-of-IxFx 2017-10-08
You should clarify that this is your own speculation.
1 Stron23 2017-10-08
Zero chance of that happening in 90% of posts here regarding LV shooting
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1 TheMadBonger 2017-10-08
Sometimes hotels split the rooms in a hallway by even and odd numbers. Not saying this is the case with Mandalay, but I've stayed in quite a few hotels that had even numbers down one hall and odd numbers down another.
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
Yeah this is what I'm thinking
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
Another article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4940470/Australian-man-staying-door-Las-Vegas-shooter.html
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
Here's something else. Remember all those reports like this right after?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4940470/Australian-man-staying-door-Las-Vegas-shooter.html
Except she was in the Philippines... Who'd they really locate?
1 Stron23 2017-10-08
You haven't been paying attention have you? She was flown back to the US a short time after the incident.
On another note, the charger you mentioned in a previous post was accounted for and nobody linked it to the hooker. Do some googling ffs
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
I believe that was another commenter who mentioned the charger. And I'm pretty sure there were early reports that made it sound like they'd located his gf in Vegas before they started saying she was in the Philippines. I'm totally up to date on all the latest news, believe me
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
I think he might have actually been the room across from the adjoining room. It could still be considered next door, but isn't the one with the inside door. The daily mail article directly makes it sound like he was in the adjoining room, but that could have been the writer's misunderstanding
1 Spaceman_Spliff 2017-10-08
Plus in the timeline the sheriff gave, the door to the adjoining room was locked and that was their second breach.
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
Yeah, that's an official story buster all its own. Paddock would have had to run through the hallway in the middle of his shooting spree.
1 TLV74 2017-10-08
It was next door because the suite Paddock was in was at the end of the hallway. High roller suite.
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
But was it the one that connects inside? The one shots were fired from? Or the other one? That didn't connect inside, that no shots were fired from?
1 TLV74 2017-10-08
I believe that room is all part of the same suite. I could be wrong though.
1 lovebasia 2017-10-08
I stayed at mandalay back in may (25th floor i think). Adjecent rooms were laid out even one side, odd other side. For some reason that stuck out at me, as i was attending a show at the mandalay convention center and kept going back to my room a few times a day.
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
Ah ok. Thanks. So he was across the hall. In the next door room that didn't connect on the inside.
1 lovebasia 2017-10-08
Yep, definitively think so. Like someone else said, some people can consider being across as right next door as well. That makes sense too because i remember i was in an even number room and had a poolside view.
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
No he was still next door. Look at the graphic in this story and you'll understand
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/04/us/vegas-shooting-hotel-room.html
1 lovebasia 2017-10-08
Looks like it, based on the diagram. Maybe because it was an end suite?
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
If anyone can find an official layout of the room numbers in the Mandalay Bay please link to it. Thanks
1 jeequeue 2017-10-08
How about video of the room? I posted this earlier in the thread, but I will copy and paste:
Look at this video of room 32-135: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0DluEQvs6I You can see this starting at 0:42: clearly, there are three windows to the south of that pillar, followed by the concrete support.
https://mgtvwkrn.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/ap_17275498021240.jpg The window broken was to the south of the concrete support in room 32-134. Either Brian Hodge is a liar, or he was letting Paddock use his room. The room service cart has a video camera on it, with a wire going into room 32-134.
Brian Hodge even said the swat blew the door off his room. His room was used to shoot from! Add "brianahodge" to the end of a FB URL to see his profile.
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
Wanna try to message him?
1 jeequeue 2017-10-08
If you want, go ahead. Some people have challenged his story on his profile, and he has not responded.
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
How could LVMPD or FBI not still be interrogating this guy?! good lord, I don't know whether to laugh or scream at this point
1 pbourgeois93 2017-10-08
Marilou Danley was also An Australian citizen. Just saying...
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
Interesting
1 jeequeue 2017-10-08
Look at this video of room 32-135: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0DluEQvs6I You can see this starting at 0:42: clearly, there are three windows to the south of that pillar, followed by the concrete support.
https://mgtvwkrn.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/ap_17275498021240.jpg The window broken was to the south of the concrete support in room 32-134. Either Brian Hodge is a liar, or he was letting Paddock use his room. The room service cart has a video camera on it, with a wire going into room 32-134.
Brian Hodge even said the swat blew the door off his room. His room was used to shoot from! Add "brianahodge" to the end of a FB URL to see his profile.
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
The window in 135 appears much more haphazardly broken than in 134 as well. 134 was where the real shooting took place from.
1 jeequeue 2017-10-08
I think so, too. There is a picture out there, taken during the shooting, where the window in 134 is clearly seen broken, and 135 is not broken. Paddock was found dead near the 135 window. This leads me to think that the picture with only 1 broken window was taken while Paddock was switching rooms and broke the 135 window later in the 11 minute rampage.
This also shows that he was the lone shooter. I am not convinced that he was the only one involved, though.
1 MagicalPonies5 2017-10-08
It also would explain the number of casings in the pictures near his body and the amount of ammo that wasn't used?
1 cockblockbyjesus 2017-10-08
How would this rule out more than 1 shooter? One shooter at a time maybe but it doesn't mean he was all alone or that he was the shooter.
Not being a dick BTW. Maybe I missed something
1 jeequeue 2017-10-08
I think they would not be shooting from the same window at the same time. I think the first window (134) was used to try to get the fuel tanks and the crowd. However, the angle on the crowd was obscured by the stage, so as people started to scatter, he wanted to get a better angle.
Another thing to consider is that maybe he broke into 134. At some point, Paddock moved from 134 to 135, but he closed the doors between the rooms. Perhaps he wanted to prevent the SWAT from breaking into 134 and coming in from the side.
While you are correct that there may have been a second person, and they were taking turns shooting, I just find it hard to believe. If they wanted to cause max mayhem, they would have shot at the same time. I think alot of what was heard were echoes.
All these weird conspiracies aside (shooters in the crowd, coverup at the Bellagio, etc, etc), the only thing that anyone SAW was shooting coming from the 32nd floor. What people thought they heard is up to each individual.
1 cockblockbyjesus 2017-10-08
Thanks, that makes sense.
1 ToneBox627 2017-10-08
https://imgur.com/a/D4ZVR
1 Patrick_Bateman86 2017-10-08
Have they released any photos from 134? maybe there's wayyyy more brass left in that room to support the amount of ammo expended...
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
No photos from 134
1 mediocrityisevident 2017-10-08
Wow that link certainly made things clear - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/04/us/vegas-shooting-hotel-room.html
So he literally was in someone elses hotel room for part of the shooting, accessed via the internal door seperating them...
That sure opens up a few more questions and further demostrates the thought and intelligence behind it all.
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
accessed how? has to be unlocked from both sides...
1 NeroliDreams 2017-10-08
I found his LinkedIn account. But, I also found another article which gives another account of what he claims happened that night... Las Vegas shooting: Former Wagga man Brian Hodge escapes. These all need to be saved so we can see if they story changes.
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
his story is consistent actually
1 NeroliDreams 2017-10-08
Here's another article talking about a blog (Neon Nettle) that seemed to take license with Hodge's account of events... Blog peddles fake story saying security guards ID'd as shooters at Mandalay Bay .
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
this is emblematic of how we missed this guy's 134 bombshell because we got distracted by he saw or didn't see
1 NeroliDreams 2017-10-08
After looking at several sources I think he is consistent too. I don’t think this guy is involved, but I’m open to the fact I could be wrong. I still want to know if his was the adjoining room to the shooter. Everyone assumes that was numbered as 24 - making it his room. Can someone show me an article or floor plan that says the adjoining room was numbered 24?
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
Visual confirmation https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/video-shows-crime-scene-at-las-vegas-hotel/2017/10/03/385e9d16-a86f-11e7-9a98-07140d2eed02_video.html?utm_term=.06dcd6d2e0e6
1 NeroliDreams 2017-10-08
Thank you! Well that just leaves me with more questions. Interesting that he never mentions being questioned by police. You’d think that he would be at least questioned at some point. I have a hard time seeing this guy involved, but if that was his room then how did Paddock gain access? Stolen key card, inside hotel help, or did this guy allow him access?
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
Yeah, how did the police not question this guy?!
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/10/03/graphic-what-know-about-las-vegas-shooting/7kxAxWJzEiiriYM7RXKkyH/story.html
Media confirmation Paddock rented 134, but followed by now debunked information regarding what day he checked in
1 cockblockbyjesus 2017-10-08
That Australian Newspaper is like their NY Times BTW.
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
No he was still next door. Look at the graphic in this story and you'll understand
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/04/us/vegas-shooting-hotel-room.html
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
accessed how? has to be unlocked from both sides...
1 callmebaiken 2017-10-08
his story is consistent actually