More info on -john, the guy who unveiled the Las Vegas plot, developer of the phone charger and suspiciously died a couple days ago

107  2017-10-09 by [deleted]

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RIP John

Do we know this is anonymous John?

It is not, OP is fake news.

I'm fake news yet I provided a bunch of sources. If you take the time to read the news and connect a couple of dots, it is clear there is a correlation.

FBI visits his home and he somehow dies by gunshot wound to the back of the head.

Nice try, shill.

I agree but how can we connect him to anonymous post?

FBI searches his home and he kills himself + daughter day after with a 12-gauge shotgun: http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2017/10/06/john-beilman-nicole-murder-suicide-fbi-search-fairport-rett-syndrome/738874001/

That page also has the Fairport Chief of Police on video talking about it.

If you do research on John Beilman, you will find a lot of connections between stuff he worked on and the government. It just adds credibility to the stuff he was posting on 4chan.

Pipe down ghoul, your cult isn't welcome here. Fade back into the darkness as the light doesn't suit you well.

We don't know that this is anonymous John. But if that anon was honest (not a LARPer) then it's very possible.

FBI visit him the day after the shooting, wife doesn't report hearing two shotgun blasts in the early morning.

So not confirmed - but bloody suspicious

The death is suspicious.

But how do you think he caught wind of Vegas?

I'll break it down:

  • On Sept 10, there was a guy named "-john" posting about a supposed Las Vegas attack... I can't find the img with all of his posts but this is one: https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1507514406562.png
  • October 1 rolls around and pretty much everything he says happened, except thankfully the casualty rate was much lower
  • October 3 FBI searches his home
  • October 4 he kills himself and his daughter with a 12-gauge shotgun to the back of the head.

That’s true.

No doubt dude was spooked.

Reason FBI searched home?

So weird that he would sign his name like an old dude would do.

I'm a bit behind in catching up on research. Can you pass on a link where an article describes exactly what kind of phone charger it is? I can't seem to find one. They all just say that they found a phone charger that didn't match - but then stop short of saying what kind of charger it was. I'm just wondering where the connection comes in that it is THIS particular charger.

I haven't found much on the phone charger, but I also haven't researched that angle yet. Here's what we know about the charger:

  • Police state additional charger is found in room
  • Charger does not belong to any phones owned by Paddock
  • Police later reverse course and say that the charger actually belonged to Paddock
  • 4chan makes claim charger is related/used by SF & CIA***

*** Again, I haven't researched the 4chan claim of the SF/CIA correlation. It's possible there's one, but it's also possible there isn't. I don't know yet

Thanks for the reply. Yes, that's the leap I'm not willing to take. I need a source or link to something where it was stated what type of charger this specifically was. Did 4Chan just assume it had to be this type because of an article about a suspicious murder/suicide of a guy named John (who did indeed engineer this type of thing) that happened to fit the narrative of a bit of "insider info" they seemed to have gotten? I'm happy to research this further - but as of right now... it's a leap too far to make this connection without knowing how this phone charger was said to be the one that "John" engineered came into being a known fact as being the odd phone charger in Paddock's room.

I found some stuff on the phone charger. See main post

I think what happened is people making connections with the phone charger based on some fake news sites like whatdoesitmean. Than other sites propagate that info without verifying where it came from.

Yep it all seems to stem from whatdoesitmean, which is the worst website and really separates the genuine critical thinkers/evidence seekers from the sensationalist biased illogical lot that give 'conspiracy theorists' a bad name!

No? How about you click the links I provided and arrive at your own conclusions.

All I'm saying is that a "-john" predicted this attack and there's another John (John Beilman) with an extensive government/military background that is visited by the FBI... and then kills himself to the back of the head w/ a 12-gauge shotgun.

I literally provided sources.. LinkedIn, everything. Obvious shill

Ok I will admit that I hadn't looked fully at the linkedin profil before, I just saw he worked at GM, but I went back and looked again and saw lower down the job with ultralife, which I didn't see originally. Sorry about that. So okay now I am more convinced. I was very very suspicious at first because I saw where this story originally came from, and it was from a website that has put out so much fake news, and I get worried that the more fake news sites like that and their stories get promoted, the more it will discredit the actual truth.

But I must say I am surprised, and you are right it does seem fishy. I'm really sorry for being so dismissive, I did exactly what I get annoyed at other people for doing, just based on my bias about that original website I saw the same story on earlier. I guess it's another reminder to never take anything for granted and to always check more thoroughly and not let pre-conceptions run away with me. So I am really sorry about that, you obviously put some work into finding this stuff out, so thanks. I feel bad now.

Also feel intrigued - it's not totally convincing that there's a connection and I haven't seen anywhere other than the dodgy website saying he was shot in the back of the head. But yeah it could do with more investigation and does seem a bit fishy.

There is that video of that guy being escorted out of Tropicana right after the shooting, he has a radio in the back of the group. I know a lot of people have said it was probably just a hotel sweep and this may be a stretch - but could that radio have been the AN/PRC-117G referenced above? Just a thought. Armed escort reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVHmshtmDqo&feature=youtu.be

certainly looks like it

No it doesn't. Here, you can buy one of these radios yourself: https://www.tacticalgeartrade.com/tri-instrument-prc-117g-versatile-two-stage-fm-radio.html

Also you can see is that whatever the guy in the tshirt is carrying is a small flat briefcase. Not a radio.

No, first of all they were not escorted, they broke off at the end on their own, likely hotel executive staff fresh out of bed.

Second, why would the radio be at the Tropicana? If it was anywhere, it came out of mandalay bay with about 30 FBI agents.

No, it's clearly not the same one. Here is the PRC 117 that you can buy yourself https://www.tacticalgeartrade.com/tri-instrument-prc-117g-versatile-two-stage-fm-radio.html It's not some secret false flag machine, it's a radio that encrypts.

IIRC that's just a repackaged cheap Chinese dual band FM transceiver.

Looks like a radio for sure. But I don't think it's the AN/PRC-117 unless it's configured in another way? All the videos i've seen of the an/prc-117 are like 30% bigger in height than whats in that vid

forget what the hotel security with the exec suit carries. they are just seeing the LEOs off the premises.

look at the LEO with the long folded up gurney, concealing a rifle or MG most likely.

the rag tag escort is made up of SWAT and LEOs and deputies and some odd Undercover/TLA dude wearing yellow.

the gun in the gurney is the thing there.

This guy obviously has serious intel on gov operations (if it's not total bs).

Why on earth would he use his real name???

I think anyone deep into conspiracies is afraid of being suicided, john is an obvious alias, so I dont think hes afraid of the name john, but as a failsafe if he is suicided people will at the very least speculate

You don't know anything about this guy. There is not one shred of evidence to suggest that he is, in any way, connected to LV. I would encourage people to go look at his LinkedIn. The guy made a career out of working with plastics. Starting with molds, gradually working his way up to an engineering position at GM. At no point was he the 'lead engineer' on anything, let alone personally responsible for what he may or may not have designed plastic encasements for.

Second, there is only one horrible source that's ID'd the charger left in his room. That same source says that the charger was for, in their own words, a "NON-chargeable" battery.

For the past 5 years, he had been working at GM and being a caretaker for his daughter. Not one shred of evidence suggesting he was a 'witness', as the horrible source claims, to the shootings, let along tangentially related to the events.

This is silly and a distraction from legitimate holes in the Las Vegas story.

Good try, but no. You sound alarmed, why?

  • The -john dude on 4chan made some startling accurate predictions that did happen, but fortunately at a much smaller scale
  • John Beilman developed or was on the team on developed the AN/PRC-117
  • There is a clear connection between AN/PRC-117 and USSOCOM since at least 2002
  • John Beilman also worked at Ultralife. Ultralife specializes in lithium ion batteries and phone chargers for military and civilian purposes
  • October 3 - The FBI searches John Beilman's home
  • October 4 - John Beilman kills daughter and himself with a 12-gauge shotgun.

Not alarmed at all. I've just not seen one legitimate connection between this guy and Paddock.

The rumor going around NY, where he lived, is that the investigation is related to recent child porn busts.

The problem with this whole theory is that there isn't any valid confirmation that anything of Paddock's was Ultralife. Except for a couple of really, really sketchy sources. BUT even if it was true, how on earth does a plastics guy who worked on components for a wide range of applications, become privy to a secret mass shooting plot?

Again, you still sound alarmed. Which is concerning.

How do you not see the massive coincidences here? I'll repeat myself: Dude named john predicts this whole thing. Then there's another dude named John who directly enginerreed/developed military radio used by USSOCOM. Funny enough, the same John has ALSO worked at a company providing lithiuom ion batteries and phone chargers for the military/civilians.

Oh and lets add another funny thing. The FBI searches his house and the next day he kills himself.

Sorry but no. Too many coincidences here

Again, you still sound alarmed. Which is concerning

This tactic is pretty common here. I suppose it is to suggest that I am a shill, worried about the truth coming out?

If a dude was anonymously dropping info on 4chan, which is funny in itself, why would he use his real name? And, again, how does a plastics guy who has worked at GM the past 5 years get swept into a mass shooting to the point where he is a 'key witness'?

Yeah, he killed himself after an FBI search. Which definitely lends credence to local rumors that he was caught up in a child porn ring that had been getting busted. But your argument is that, since the FBI was involved and he committed murder/suicide, that has to make him suspect to the LV plot? That's silly.

You're jumping at conclusions and asking for clear answers. There are no clear answers, we are all researching this. I don't know why he used his real name. There are a ton of Johns out there.

All I'm saying is that there are way too many funny coincidences. I have already explained in detail plus provided sources.

Show me one coincidence. The guy committing suicide after an FBI raid is not nearly enough to link him to Paddock.

Show me where Paddock can be linked to Ultralife. That would at least be a start.

I don't need to link it to Paddock... I don't know how many times I have to explain myself to you.

Again, I'm linking John Beilman to "-john". Knowing John Beilman's extensive military/government background, it further confirms what "-john" was saying. Mind you the img I linked is only a few of the posts that "-john" made.

It just adds much more credibility to the posts made by "-john".

Okay, so your links are as follows:

4 chan guy: named John.

NY guy: named John and worked for Ultralife, wherein he may or may not have worked on components for military, civilian, and medical equipment.

I dunno, man. Pretty solid. I don't think I'd call 5 years at Ultralife 'extensive military/government background'. But those 5 years are literally the only time military or government come up as part of his duties.

You're welcome to check his LinkedIn just in case you think he had more than 5 years of tangential experience. https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-beilman-9335514/

I already provided his LinkedIn along with a bunch of other links in the main post. Including the military/government link.

That's 5 years. Literally no other experience in military and/or government. So, other than that, he was named John. This is what we're rolling with?

You're calling him a shill because you can't find any resonance retorts to his counter arguments? Pathetic.

I love that. If you don't participate in a half baked circle jerk of a theory, you must have nefarious motives.

Hahaha look at this spook calling this guy who pokef holes in his disinfo a shill. You are terrible at disinfo and we arent buying it. We need more proof.

It's funny how the guy trying to debunk the post on a conspiracy subreddit always has the most upvotes weird...

Yes, it's all part of a nefarious plot. Such a solid theory takes a lot of effort to fight.

Where is the evidence that John Beilman worked on the AN/PRC-117 and where is the evidence that he worked for Ultralife, because I only managed to find that info in article on the subject that linked to no sources and apparently came from a well known fake news website. Maybe it's true, but there isn't any evidence. The only confirmed things are that a guy called john was raided by the FBI and was found dead along with his daughter a couple of days later. Literally the ONLY thing 'connecting' him to the LV shooting is the fact that his name was John, and someone calling themselves john made a prediction about an attack of some kind happening in las vegas. And that does not count as a connection because so many people are called john, and there's no telling whether the 4chan john's name was actually john anyway!

You and /u/kevlarbuns are jumping at conclusions. Sort of hilarious...

His LinkedIn profile itself mentions him working at Ultralife... https://i.imgur.com/155ZKoB.jpg

The same dude who was raided by the FBI has extensive experience working with the government & military.. I already provided all the sources confirming this. Try doing your own research?

You have yet to connect Paddock to Ultralife in any reasonable way.

Nevermind connecting a guy who worked for GM for the past 5 years to "extensive experience working with government & military". That part is complete conjecture. He wasn't an R&D guy, or top management. The guy worked with plastics.

I'm not trying to connect Beilman to Paddock. Why do you keep jumping at conclusions? Literally the most obvious shill.

I'm connecting John Beilman to "-john". "-john" predicted the attack with stunning accuracy. John Beilman has an extensive military/government background. I provided all the sources.

Again, too many funny coincidences to dismiss.

How would a guy, working at GM in plastics for the past 5 years in NY, have any way to know what shadowy things the government was getting ready to do in Nevada? Because he may or may not have worked on plastics for military radios at some point?

The phrase is jump/jumping to conclusions. You're arguing with people when you've not provided any solid links. It's good to have this info out there but you need to posit it as a theory and leave it at that.

His LinkedIn shows he worked for Ultralife, but that was where the author of the horrible article shot their arrow, and painted the target in.

The argument is that Ultralife tech was found in Paddock's room. It is completely unsubstantiated. To make matters even more bizarre, the claim is that he had a charger for a non-chargeable ultralife battery.

This dude has been 5 years removed from that job. Moreover, he works in plastics, not R&D. It's kind of silly to think that a guy, 5 years removed from a job making plastics, would get pulled into a mass shooting conspiracy. How on earth would a guy working at GM be privy to any kind of 'inside info' about what the government is planning in Las Vegas? Because he may or may not have worked on products with a wide range of applications?

Where is the John Beilman story confirmed? I seen many on 4Chan telling people to get the fuck out with that story. Also, let's say the Beilman portion of this information was accurate, why would someone with incredibly sensitive info go on an anonymous boatd only to post the Intel with their real name?

I am alarmed at your consistent downvotes across comments. Who bothers doing that, Sounds like you are onto something

If you were going to leak an upcoming mass shooting, would you use your real name?

I see what youre getting at but if you can provide a single picture of him and we tie it to the strip club photo with steve. Then we are on to something. Right now we dont have any tangible proof this guy even knew Steven.

This guys gets it

Waiit hold up...no wonder, when i heard about LV i had suspicions that I've heard it before somewhere. I saw his posts back when they first came out here on this sub. this is just like deja vu

The contract awarded was for nonrechargable batteries.

Why would John sign his posts with his real first name? Even if it is a common first name, it still seems needlessly incriminating to do.

If I'm not mistaken, it sounded like the -john posts were attempting a 9/11 attack prediction. Posted on the 10th regarding "tomorrow".

You're jumping at conclusions and asking for clear answers. There are no clear answers, we are all researching this. I don't know why he used his real name. There are a ton of Johns out there.

All I'm saying is that there are way too many funny coincidences. I have already explained in detail plus provided sources.

Yep it all seems to stem from whatdoesitmean, which is the worst website and really separates the genuine critical thinkers/evidence seekers from the sensationalist biased illogical lot that give 'conspiracy theorists' a bad name!

Ok I will admit that I hadn't looked fully at the linkedin profil before, I just saw he worked at GM, but I went back and looked again and saw lower down the job with ultralife, which I didn't see originally. Sorry about that. So okay now I am more convinced. I was very very suspicious at first because I saw where this story originally came from, and it was from a website that has put out so much fake news, and I get worried that the more fake news sites like that and their stories get promoted, the more it will discredit the actual truth.

But I must say I am surprised, and you are right it does seem fishy. I'm really sorry for being so dismissive, I did exactly what I get annoyed at other people for doing, just based on my bias about that original website I saw the same story on earlier. I guess it's another reminder to never take anything for granted and to always check more thoroughly and not let pre-conceptions run away with me. So I am really sorry about that, you obviously put some work into finding this stuff out, so thanks. I feel bad now.

Also feel intrigued - it's not totally convincing that there's a connection and I haven't seen anywhere other than the dodgy website saying he was shot in the back of the head. But yeah it could do with more investigation and does seem a bit fishy.